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November 06, 2022, 11:53:49 AM
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Too many crazy posts coming from him if you ask me. I have also read several posts from him where he talks about his success in gambling and how he likes to play big amounts of money. But he also claims that martingale works and that he found a way to beat the house using martingale. I am not sure if he is just trolling or what. His story sounds totally weird and unbelievable to me.
I don't really think he was lying about the 9 grand win because he did share proof related to it, but he clearly isn't a professional gambler since he actually feels that a negative progression strategy like Martingale can always beat the house.

My point, though, is that someone who claims that "There is no way you will fail 7 times and if you do just increase the bet and you will get it back eventually even if you wait 12 times" obviously either hasn't gambled much or is a compulsive liar.
True. 7 times is nothing. Personally, I witnessed a 21 losing streak which blew my mind though I bet small units luckily.

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November 06, 2022, 01:46:50 PM
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But he also claims that martingale works and that he found a way to beat the house using martingale.
Martingale works short-term unless you are unlucky enough to get into a losing streak where you no longer have the money to place the next bet or there is a betting restriction that doesn't allow you to wager above a certain amount.
You don't even have to be unlucky for that because no one has enough money to make odds worth it. And to make odds worth it you are gamble with LOT of money.
It might seem highly improbable to lose, lets say 20 times in a row and you are only using a little money for that bet, it won't be worth it after a while.
When you play long enough it will happen sooner or later in the long run, probability kicks in and all you need is big one loss to nullify every past win.

Let's say that you start with $2 and lose the bet, next bet is $4, and after that $8, and after 20 bets you would need a $1,048,576 to put in, and as it's growing exponentially most of us won't have that kind of money. And at some point, no one in this planet has.

And if you are saying that short term means doubling it only few times, the odds get significantly more against you and that defeats the whole idea of martingale.

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November 06, 2022, 02:15:57 PM
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And if you are saying that short term means doubling it only few times, the odds get significantly more against you and that defeats the whole idea of martingale.
If Martingale was a winning strategy it would be illegal. All casinos and sportsbooks would have automated systems that can detect that your are doubling down on your losses and they could simply ban you or kick you out if they wanted to. But the odds remain the same. It's just a matter of luck.

I checked the results of my experiment that I mentioned in a previous post. OP was talking about how unlikely it is to lose 7 times in a row. It isn't at all. I lost 8 times in a row at one time and only won the 9th round. At that point, I needed $768 just for another chance to make profit. The initial stake was $3.

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November 06, 2022, 03:49:34 PM
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And if you are saying that short term means doubling it only few times, the odds get significantly more against you and that defeats the whole idea of martingale.
If Martingale was a winning strategy it would be illegal. All casinos and sportsbooks would have automated systems that can detect that your are doubling down on your losses and they could simply ban you or kick you out if they wanted to. But the odds remain the same. It's just a matter of luck.

I checked the results of my experiment that I mentioned in a previous post. OP was talking about how unlikely it is to lose 7 times in a row. It isn't at all. I lost 8 times in a row at one time and only won the 9th round. At that point, I needed $768 just for another chance to make profit. The initial stake was $3.
Martingale might not be an illegal strategy however it is one way to minimize loss especially if you have an enormous bankroll and patience. But you will need still need luck when doing that strategy as it does not guarantee a win every time. To be honest, this is one of my favorite strategies when playing dice as you can just set it on the automated rolled or bot on the casino itself.

It is pretty common to have a losing streak every time for more than 5-8 times, and you will most likely win afterward however the longer you do this strategy the higher the chance you'll encounter a higher loss streak. I've experimented with this strategy to know how long it will run by doing a base bet of 1 satoshi only and I've experienced a 17-20 losing streak.


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I checked the results of my experiment that I mentioned in a previous post. OP was talking about how unlikely it is to lose 7 times in a row. It isn't at all. I lost 8 times in a row at one time and only won the 9th round. At that point, I needed $768 just for another chance to make profit. The initial stake was $3.

Not only 8 times other players have 20-plus red streaks. We can read the players' statement on this forum: https://stakecommunity.com/topic/43468-longest-losing-streak-on-dice/.  So I guess he is just new to using Martingale in his strategy.  It is indeed good for a short game but the longer the game goes, the more frequent the red streak is.

Martingale might not be an illegal strategy however it is one way to minimize loss especially if you have an enormous bankroll and patience. But you will need still need luck when doing that strategy as it does not guarantee a win every time. To be honest, this is one of my favorite strategies when playing dice as you can just set it on the automated rolled or bot on the casino itself.

Martingale is one of the milking strategies of casinos so why should the casino ban it.  Anything that favors them is ok but anything that make them at a disadvantage isn't like how they ban or kick players suspected of card counting.

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Send me a message, I can code you your own casino.
How can you code it casino is it that you have a different method or you are looking for someone that he will put into trouble because this need more explanation for someone to believe you because sometimes this is a method scammers use to trap many people and people will believe them so if you want to state all this kind of something I think that is supposed to put it in writing as in explain it bit by bit so that others can understand what you mean by that
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Congratulations to you OP, that's a big amount of winning and also that's a good decisions to quit in gambling because you already have a profit but before that like what other user said above make sure to withdraw it first in order to prevent such loss. But in my own I don't think so if you are permanently quit in the world of gambling because once you are experiencing a good amount of winning then theres a chance that you will be gamble once again.
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Congratulations to you OP, that's a big amount of winning and also that's a good decisions to quit in gambling because you already have a profit but before that like what other user said above make sure to withdraw it first in order to prevent such loss. But in my own I don't think so if you are permanently quit in the world of gambling because once you are experiencing a good amount of winning then theres a chance that you will be gamble once again.

I have seen many stories similar to this, where a player makes a lot of profits, but because he gets very excited and wants to make more money, he ends up losing everything, and that is what should be avoided because a person who has money is better than not. nothing, I'm one of the players that when they get some profit, they withdraw at once, because I know that if I keep playing I lose it, or another strategy is that I'm going to play something else, but little, what interests me is to try luck and if I see that I have no chance I'll go with my earnings, it's better to have the money and enjoy it than not having anything because I lost it in a very foolish way, and there are people who don't mind losing that amount of money.
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You are now a winner so it will get even harder to quit, once you embark on a gambling journey you will keep doing it even if you never worn, and if you win that will give you more encouragement to never stop gambling, congrats OP but you can't always be this lucky so tread carefully.

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November 08, 2022, 06:44:56 PM
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Send me a message, I can code you your own casino.
How can you code it casino is it that you have a different method or you are looking for someone that he will put into trouble because this need more explanation for someone to believe you because sometimes this is a method scammers use to trap many people and people will believe them so if you want to state all this kind of something I think that is supposed to put it in writing as in explain it bit by bit so that others can understand what you mean by that
Sure. I can create anyone here a completely ready to go online casino. If you are actually interested my discord is: digby#9927

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November 08, 2022, 07:51:26 PM
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Congratulations to you OP, that's a big amount of winning and also that's a good decisions to quit in gambling because you already have a profit but before that like what other user said above make sure to withdraw it first in order to prevent such loss. But in my own I don't think so if you are permanently quit in the world of gambling because once you are experiencing a good amount of winning then theres a chance that you will be gamble once again.

I have seen many stories similar to this, where a player makes a lot of profits, but because he gets very excited and wants to make more money, he ends up losing everything, and that is what should be avoided because a person who has money is better than not. nothing, I'm one of the players that when they get some profit, they withdraw at once, because I know that if I keep playing I lose it, or another strategy is that I'm going to play something else, but little, what interests me is to try luck and if I see that I have no chance I'll go with my earnings, it's better to have the money and enjoy it than not having anything because I lost it in a very foolish way, and there are people who don't mind losing that amount of money.

When you are on an emotional boost up then you could really say up things on what you do have in mind but just like the rest been saying that it is really hard to believe that you could quit up
when you are on a winning state.For losing state then it would really be just normal but for winning? Its really hard for it to be done by someone.You could really be rather thinking off on playing
even more because you do really believe that you could even getting more if you do decide to play more.So quitting on this situation or scenario is close to 0% but if you are a man
or person who do have that strong will and extreme self-discipline then it could be possible but its really hard to believe on imho.
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But he also claims that martingale works and that he found a way to beat the house using martingale.
Martingale works short-term unless you are unlucky enough to get into a losing streak where you no longer have the money to place the next bet or there is a betting restriction that doesn't allow you to wager above a certain amount.

I agree with you. My point, though, is that someone who claims that "There is no way you will fail 7 times and if you do just increase the bet and you will get it back eventually even if you wait 12 times" obviously either hasn't gambled much or is a compulsive liar.


It sounds good and back with logic but in practice that's not going to work the losing streak could go high and even if you have a big bankroll some casinos are imposing a limit on bets, so in the end, you will eventually lose chasing your losses, so many newbies are doing that because it sometimes works on physical casinos but don't in online casinos.

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November 10, 2022, 03:34:07 PM
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Send me a message, I can code you your own casino.
How can you code it casino is it that you have a different method or you are looking for someone that he will put into trouble because this need more explanation for someone to believe you because sometimes this is a method scammers use to trap many people and people will believe them so if you want to state all this kind of something I think that is supposed to put it in writing as in explain it bit by bit so that others can understand what you mean by that
Sure. I can create anyone here a completely ready to go online casino. If you are actually interested my discord is: digby#9927

So you can't actually code online casino software, but you're selling a pre-made script you got from somewhere? Well, that's not really the same thing.

Not what I said chief.
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November 10, 2022, 03:54:45 PM
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But he also claims that martingale works and that he found a way to beat the house using martingale.
Martingale works short-term unless you are unlucky enough to get into a losing streak where you no longer have the money to place the next bet or there is a betting restriction that doesn't allow you to wager above a certain amount.

I agree with you. My point, though, is that someone who claims that "There is no way you will fail 7 times and if you do just increase the bet and you will get it back eventually even if you wait 12 times" obviously either hasn't gambled much or is a compulsive liar.


It sounds good and back with logic but in practice that's not going to work the losing streak could go high and even if you have a big bankroll some casinos are imposing a limit on bets, so in the end, you will eventually lose chasing your losses, so many newbies are doing that because it sometimes works on physical casinos but don't in online casinos.
We can't avoid losing streak so Martingale strategy will not work in the long run. It will be a big risk, especially for beginners who only have a low bankroll to try it because there's a huge possibility that they would lose all they have when they apply it without familiarizing the risks of the game of their choice. It could work if they're lucky to have a winning streak but there's still no guarantee that they could win continuously so the risk is still high.
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November 10, 2022, 06:00:39 PM
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But he also claims that martingale works and that he found a way to beat the house using martingale.
Martingale works short-term unless you are unlucky enough to get into a losing streak where you no longer have the money to place the next bet or there is a betting restriction that doesn't allow you to wager above a certain amount.

I agree with you. My point, though, is that someone who claims that "There is no way you will fail 7 times and if you do just increase the bet and you will get it back eventually even if you wait 12 times" obviously either hasn't gambled much or is a compulsive liar.


It sounds good and back with logic but in practice that's not going to work the losing streak could go high and even if you have a big bankroll some casinos are imposing a limit on bets, so in the end, you will eventually lose chasing your losses, so many newbies are doing that because it sometimes works on physical casinos but don't in online casinos.
We can't avoid losing streak so Martingale strategy will not work in the long run. It will be a big risk, especially for beginners who only have a low bankroll to try it because there's a huge possibility that they would lose all they have when they apply it without familiarizing the risks of the game of their choice. It could work if they're lucky to have a winning streak but there's still no guarantee that they could win continuously so the risk is still high.
I want just to add. Even if bankroll huge, often there is the limit of the bet. And if you lose streak is long enough you can reach this limit and it will brake all the strategy.
The martingale is easy strategy, that`s why it is so popular, but the same time it is not winning strategy.

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November 10, 2022, 07:54:11 PM
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But he also claims that martingale works and that he found a way to beat the house using martingale.
Martingale works short-term unless you are unlucky enough to get into a losing streak where you no longer have the money to place the next bet or there is a betting restriction that doesn't allow you to wager above a certain amount.

I agree with you. My point, though, is that someone who claims that "There is no way you will fail 7 times and if you do just increase the bet and you will get it back eventually even if you wait 12 times" obviously either hasn't gambled much or is a compulsive liar.


It sounds good and back with logic but in practice that's not going to work the losing streak could go high and even if you have a big bankroll some casinos are imposing a limit on bets, so in the end, you will eventually lose chasing your losses, so many newbies are doing that because it sometimes works on physical casinos but don't in online casinos.
We can't avoid losing streak so Martingale strategy will not work in the long run. It will be a big risk, especially for beginners who only have a low bankroll to try it because there's a huge possibility that they would lose all they have when they apply it without familiarizing the risks of the game of their choice. It could work if they're lucky to have a winning streak but there's still no guarantee that they could win continuously so the risk is still high.
I want just to add. Even if bankroll huge, often there is the limit of the bet. And if you lose streak is long enough you can reach this limit and it will brake all the strategy.
The martingale is easy strategy, that`s why it is so popular, but the same time it is not winning strategy.
Lots have tried and lots had failed and lose up huge sums of money.Martingale is indeed a strategy but doesnt mean that it could ensure out winning chance or odds which is something that we cant really be able

to win up on sure manner.People who do really believe will surely be fucking up themselves on losing huge sums if they would really be forcing out on making a certain strategy work even if it doesnt.
Basing up on the condition on a certain person on a winning state saying up that he would really be quitting up then it would really be that impossible.Just like the rest been saying that
quitting up on a condition on which its really that impossible for someone to do so.You would really be mainly thinking that you should really be playing more so that you could make out
more money and this is why its really a big joke when you do tell to yourself on quitting completely.

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November 10, 2022, 08:37:49 PM
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But he also claims that martingale works and that he found a way to beat the house using martingale.
Martingale works short-term unless you are unlucky enough to get into a losing streak where you no longer have the money to place the next bet or there is a betting restriction that doesn't allow you to wager above a certain amount.

I agree with you. My point, though, is that someone who claims that "There is no way you will fail 7 times and if you do just increase the bet and you will get it back eventually even if you wait 12 times" obviously either hasn't gambled much or is a compulsive liar.


It sounds good and back with logic but in practice that's not going to work the losing streak could go high and even if you have a big bankroll some casinos are imposing a limit on bets, so in the end, you will eventually lose chasing your losses, so many newbies are doing that because it sometimes works on physical casinos but don't in online casinos.
We can't avoid losing streak so Martingale strategy will not work in the long run. It will be a big risk, especially for beginners who only have a low bankroll to try it because there's a huge possibility that they would lose all they have when they apply it without familiarizing the risks of the game of their choice. It could work if they're lucky to have a winning streak but there's still no guarantee that they could win continuously so the risk is still high.
I want just to add. Even if bankroll huge, often there is the limit of the bet. And if you lose streak is long enough you can reach this limit and it will brake all the strategy.
The martingale is easy strategy, that`s why it is so popular, but the same time it is not winning strategy.
more money and this is why its really a big joke when you do tell to yourself on quitting completely.
There's a saying that "once a soldier, always a soldier" it doesnt matter whether you are retired or out of service, those who know you were a soldier will always refer you as a soldier.
This also very applicable to gambling, gambler will always remain a gambler, its indeed very hard to quit gambling most especially after having won so much money from it.

In OPs, case, he didn't say he was quitting gambling forever though, he said he is quitting gambling until 2023, which to me, i think is very possible since 2023 is not so far away, we have just a month plus to go, all he has to do is immense himself in some other activities that will keep his mind away from gambling till 2023.

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November 10, 2022, 08:48:36 PM
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first congratulations to you op for winning a huge money. This is a very good decision: that you want to quit gambling now. If you can really do this then it will good for you. But if you get greedy now and are ready to continue gambling again, you may not be able to keep your winnings for long. And at some point you will lose all your money again. So the decision to quit gambling now will be the right decision. good luck for you and Hope you can keep your money safe
We will have to wait and see if the OP actually leaves gambling for good because at least in my experience it is very rare that a gambler quits gambling when they are ahead and they have won a decent amount, and this is because as soon as that happens they begin to think about the possibility of earning money with gambling and then they decide to keep doing it, and then as you may guess they begin to lose the money they have won and they keep gambling hoping to at least recover the money they have lost, only to lose it all in the end.
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