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December 11, 2022, 07:39:40 PM
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Long-term employee retention is not a losing battle if the company knows how the treat people, it's part of the corporate culture, and as long as bureaucracy and policy isn't opposite of these. 

I think this depends on the situation, when the company can make employees comfortable then he can survive, sometimes companies that have gotten big profits but are stingy and do not want to give annual bonuses to employees, and the company is too fast to give discounts if making mistakes and things like this that will be make employees looking for other places.
The first thing an employee should know is the rules of a company before he works in it. Because it would not be very logical and ethical if an employee had to blame the company just because he was not given a bonus at the end of the year.

And if this bonus is not written in the work rules of each employee, then the company has the right not to give bonuses to the employee even though it could be very good if it is indeed given to each employee as a plus or to appreciate their work that has reached the target set by the company.
Yes, that's right, it will definitely be notified to employees and also stated in the work contract. When employees sign the contract given by the company, it means they fully agree with what is stated, even though they only receive a salary without any additional bonuses from what has been done even though they reach the target or even better than what was targeted. However, there may be flexible companies which of course can be said to be good by giving bonuses even though it is not in their employment contracts. This depends on company policy, of course. But of course the thing that makes an employee comfortable is the company's policy that can be said to improve the welfare of its employees.
I have experience with this, where I once worked in a company that was demanding, but if my job was satisfying they didn't consider it and only saw when the employee made a mistake. Honestly it makes me not at all comfortable.

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December 11, 2022, 08:07:33 PM
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The ease of applying for an online application makes anyone will try new things that are getting a job that suits his dreams, I also often submit applications and sometimes I also follow the next stage such as interviews and so on, sometimes looking for the best is our hope.
It's hard to apply nowadays if you're just on your own, you haven't built connections and networks and this is a problem for those loners. But still, talent and skill beat that.
The situation that everyone got in had put pressure and uncertainty that this world, we don't know what may happen next and if the worst is yet to come. The same for employment we'd really never know if the company where you're staying it might be bankrupt soon or have a %+ YTD.

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December 11, 2022, 08:18:49 PM
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Reading this article, I couldn't help but wonder about a lot of things that have gone wrong and is going wrong in companies. Some of these companies are know that employees leaving are a problem and are making efforts to fix it while other who know, ,amy have chosen to ignore it.
Below are some important points highlighted in the article.

According to the report, more than 6.5 million people (20% of the U.K. workforce) are expected to quit their job in the next 12 months, according to estimates from the Charted Institute of Personnel and Development (CIPD), which published the data in June after surveying more than 6,000 workers. That’s up from 2021, when 16% of the U.K. workforce said they plan to quit within a year, according to the CIPD. Meanwhile, in March Microsoft’s global Work Trend Index found that 52% of Gen Zers and Millennials — the two generations that represent the vast majority of the workforce — were likely to consider changing jobs within the following year.

Data do not lie. If these companies do not want to keep losing this battle they have to start caring about their employees. They have to treat their employees great. In this day and age companies need to start to try to be human and actually care about what their employees care about or at least putting it on the same pedestal with the degree at which the company cares about making profit. We need new generational leaders who are high on emotional intelligence.

What do you think? Are companies losing the battle for long term employee retention?
I think the traditional thinking of employees has now changed altogether, the employees of today don't want to focus on such petty things such as sticking to a single company, their needs and wants are quite diverse now and only money, stability and reputation are no more the pillars of these wants, companies also have realized this and that is why are not able to satisfy every individual based on his specific wants. Also I feel even companies now have accepted the fact that they will always be able to retain only a few employees out of all so they have made their existing employees extremely flexible with knowledge on diverse things and no more restricted to just one thing that they do so that no employee is irreplaceable.
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December 11, 2022, 08:22:58 PM
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The ease of applying for an online application makes anyone will try new things that are getting a job that suits his dreams, I also often submit applications and sometimes I also follow the next stage such as interviews and so on, sometimes looking for the best is our hope.
It's hard to apply nowadays if you're just on your own, you haven't built connections and networks and this is a problem for those loners. But still, talent and skill beat that.
The situation that everyone got in had put pressure and uncertainty that this world, we don't know what may happen next and if the worst is yet to come. The same for employment we'd really never know if the company where you're staying it might be bankrupt soon or have a %+ YTD.

It is a risk but it can be worth to take, there are different opinions regarding an online application though taking the risk may change your life since there are many successful stories that you will hear about it.

Same with your opinions regarding to no assurance. Even the company you are into for a
long time can guarantee that they will stay at positive, especially now that the economy is
still in its surviving stage. A case to case and with different outcomes.
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December 11, 2022, 08:26:19 PM
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The ease of applying for an online application makes anyone will try new things that are getting a job that suits his dreams, I also often submit applications and sometimes I also follow the next stage such as interviews and so on, sometimes looking for the best is our hope.
Indeed, this is something good, but on the other hand, when doing something like that, it means that you are completely ready to leave your job completely, and of course there must be a reason behind it.
When looking for something new, of course, there must be something more that must be obtained, such as excess salary or maybe in terms of distance and a more decent job, but when things like that don't exist, why do we change the old job and switch if the conditions are still the same.

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December 11, 2022, 09:01:44 PM
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The ease of applying for an online application makes anyone will try new things that are getting a job that suits his dreams, I also often submit applications and sometimes I also follow the next stage such as interviews and so on, sometimes looking for the best is our hope.
It's hard to apply nowadays if you're just on your own, you haven't built connections and networks and this is a problem for those loners. But still, talent and skill beat that.
The situation that everyone got in had put pressure and uncertainty that this world, we don't know what may happen next and if the worst is yet to come. The same for employment we'd really never know if the company where you're staying it might be bankrupt soon or have a %+ YTD.

It is a risk but it can be worth to take, there are different opinions regarding an online application though taking the risk may change your life since there are many successful stories that you will hear about it.

Same with your opinions regarding to no assurance. Even the company you are into for a
long time can guarantee that they will stay at positive, especially now that the economy is
still in its surviving stage. A case to case and with different outcomes.
Risk is there no matter what we choose to do. Even in employment, the pandemic just proved that, and the same with those companies that are near where war is happening.
You just can't be sure about anything right now and that's why you have to choose properly if you want to get employed in a company, and you should have no regrets about doing it. Love to work for that company and you're liking the job that you have and that's why you're applying hard.
But still remember that there's no permanent on it whether they call you regular, they can always do a lay off.

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December 12, 2022, 07:18:28 AM
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To become a company that can survive and more advanced, it is needed loyal employees, but temptations with a better salary will certainly make employees feel like going out soon, this is the importance that the company must always follow the latest salary development so that it can provide salaries that make employees survive.
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December 12, 2022, 08:44:50 AM
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Risk is there no matter what we choose to do. Even in employment, the pandemic just proved that, and the same with those companies that are near where war is happening.

Indeed, risk is everywhere and we really can't assume the secureness of our job and any business around.

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You just can't be sure about anything right now and that's why you have to choose properly if you want to get employed in a company, and you should have no regrets about doing it.

Good decision making for sure will allow you to survive, with good judegment you'll be picking the right one that's fits to your needs.

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Love to work for that company and you're liking the job that you have and that's why you're applying hard.

You said it right. Your desire and intensions to land that dream job.

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But still remember that there's no permanent on it whether they call you regular, they can always do a lay off.

That's reality which we cannot deny, even how hard you do the chance of being lay off can happen to you.
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December 12, 2022, 08:26:46 PM
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Risk is there no matter what we choose to do. Even in employment, the pandemic just proved that, and the same with those companies that are near where war is happening.
Indeed, risk is everywhere and we really can't assume the secureness of our job and any business around.
Yeah, before we believe the term job security but then the pandemic has happened and we're no longer secured with it even if you've been working for them for years.

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You just can't be sure about anything right now and that's why you have to choose properly if you want to get employed in a company, and you should have no regrets about doing it.
Good decision making for sure will allow you to survive, with good judegment you'll be picking the right one that's fits to your needs.
You have to choose what's best for you but we're in no position that we can have everything that we want. So, at least in picking a career or job, you're about to do, make sure that you like working there and did some research on how's the working environment going onto that choice.

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But still remember that there's no permanent on it whether they call you regular, they can always do a lay off.

That's reality which we cannot deny, even how hard you do the chance of being lay off can happen to you.
Yeah, so always have a back up plan because you'll never know if your company is next to have a massive layoff.

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December 13, 2022, 01:50:15 AM
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Most companies do not care about the fate of employees, they feel they can replace employees at any time because there is a recruitment section, this is only good at the beginning because if it is often repeated then there is a mistake that the company does not want to hear what the works want.

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December 13, 2022, 04:19:18 AM
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Indeed, risk is everywhere and we really can't assume the secureness of our job and any business around.
All the work that we do must have a risk, because currently there is no job that does not contain risks. The worker's job is to minimize, not avoid, this is something that is difficult for people to do, because there are no targets and timeframes for work.

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Good decision making for sure will allow you to survive, with good judegment you'll be picking the right one that's fits to your needs.
Life must have a target that must be achieved, because we will not always work with other parties, moreover there is no guarantee of survival when the prospects for the work we do do not develop.

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That's reality which we cannot deny, even how hard you do the chance of being lay off can happen to you.
This is a certainty, whether we experience layoffs or retirement, then what targets should we achieve after this happens, we must set standards at work and must have options when things that are not desirable happen.

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December 13, 2022, 05:55:26 AM
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Apart from conducting a survey about whether or not an employee leaves, there must be an additional reason why they want to leave the company they currently occupy because in my opinion this is one thing that really has a connection between one and the other.
We can't say they lost or not because in this case we still don't know the reasons that really made them want to leave.
If indeed the reason they left makes sense, such as problems that often occur in compensation or wages that don't match then indeed we also can't blame the employees who want to leave but when the reasons they do for leaving are things that don't really make sense then maybe I will say they failed at this.


Employees we survey why they leave the company are usually dishonest in giving reasons, they will answer non -technical things such as wanting to work near home, feel uncomfortable with the environment and so on, a good company actually has a system to reduce the volume of employees who go out and enter So that the company's long -term goals can be easily realized and certainly make the company's culture better.



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December 13, 2022, 10:41:40 AM
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The ease of applying for an online application makes anyone will try new things that are getting a job that suits his dreams, I also often submit applications and sometimes I also follow the next stage such as interviews and so on, sometimes looking for the best is our hope.
Indeed, this is something good, but on the other hand, when doing something like that, it means that you are completely ready to leave your job completely, and of course there must be a reason behind it.
When looking for something new, of course, there must be something more that must be obtained, such as excess salary or maybe in terms of distance and a more decent job, but when things like that don't exist, why do we change the old job and switch if the conditions are still the same.
That's right why do you want to move to a new workplace if you don't get anything more positive from your previous job, maybe you want to add new insights with a new profession to mine value about your skills, that's not bad, but if in the same job and your same position is just a waste of time.
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Most companies do not care about the fate of employees, they feel they can replace employees at any time because there is a recruitment section, this is only good at the beginning because if it is often repeated then there is a mistake that the company does not want to hear what the works want.
Carrying out recruitment too often will be dangerous for the company, this is not as easy as it is said because it will affect the stability of the company, of course, there are always pros and cons between employees and workers at a certain time but that includes the company's progress so that the company does not lose and the employees are not harmed either.
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December 13, 2022, 09:42:16 PM
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The ease of applying for an online application makes anyone will try new things that are getting a job that suits his dreams, I also often submit applications and sometimes I also follow the next stage such as interviews and so on, sometimes looking for the best is our hope.
Indeed, this is something good, but on the other hand, when doing something like that, it means that you are completely ready to leave your job completely, and of course there must be a reason behind it.
When looking for something new, of course, there must be something more that must be obtained, such as excess salary or maybe in terms of distance and a more decent job, but when things like that don't exist, why do we change the old job and switch if the conditions are still the same.
That's right why do you want to move to a new workplace if you don't get anything more positive from your previous job, maybe you want to add new insights with a new profession to mine value about your skills, that's not bad, but if in the same job and your same position is just a waste of time.
Maybe this could be true when talking about insight and experience, but of course with new things we have to be prepared to readjust there to conditions where everything is new and in my opinion it's not worth it if there are no other benefits there.
On the other hand, maybe for people who like challenges, this is quite challenging, but for me, as long as I still benefit from my previous job and there is still no better job, I will stay at my old job, rather than looking for new hopes, which may not necessarily be good either. .

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December 13, 2022, 10:17:48 PM
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The ease of applying for an online application makes anyone will try new things that are getting a job that suits his dreams, I also often submit applications and sometimes I also follow the next stage such as interviews and so on, sometimes looking for the best is our hope.
Indeed, this is something good, but on the other hand, when doing something like that, it means that you are completely ready to leave your job completely, and of course there must be a reason behind it.
When looking for something new, of course, there must be something more that must be obtained, such as excess salary or maybe in terms of distance and a more decent job, but when things like that don't exist, why do we change the old job and switch if the conditions are still the same.
That's right why do you want to move to a new workplace if you don't get anything more positive from your previous job, maybe you want to add new insights with a new profession to mine value about your skills, that's not bad, but if in the same job and your same position is just a waste of time.
Maybe this could be true when talking about insight and experience, but of course with new things we have to be prepared to readjust there to conditions where everything is new and in my opinion it's not worth it if there are no other benefits there.
On the other hand, maybe for people who like challenges, this is quite challenging, but for me, as long as I still benefit from my previous job and there is still no better job, I will stay at my old job, rather than looking for new hopes, which may not necessarily be good either. .
This is why its not really that something ideal nor worth if you do leave your job just because you dont like it or tending to look for job which does have better pay and something which is really in your

interest.People do really have these common reasons on why they do leave out their job because of these things.Although some would really be preferring on having a business than sticking yourself

on an 8-5 job but there are instances most of the time which there's no much more wiser choice but rather sticking into your current job
which do really make you survive on day to day living.
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December 13, 2022, 11:12:05 PM
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Employees we survey why they leave the company are usually dishonest in giving reasons, they will answer non -technical things such as wanting to work near home, feel uncomfortable with the environment and so on, a good company actually has a system to reduce the volume of employees who go out and enter So that the company's long -term goals can be easily realized and certainly make the company's culture better.
I think with the answer about being uncomfortable with the environment is a genuine answer. One wouldn't leave if they're liking the working environment and surroundings that they've got inside the company. On these times, it's important to skill up or you'll be replaced by someone better if you're underperforming. Another thing to worry about this long term employee absorption is with the AI. Yeah, sure it's still a long way to go with AIs but that's a big worry for most employees when a company starts to have those tasks can be done by an AI.

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December 14, 2022, 01:01:40 PM
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This is why its not really that something ideal nor worth if you do leave your job just because you dont like it or tending to look for job which does have better pay and something which is really in your
interest.People do really have these common reasons on why they do leave out their job because of these things.Although some would really be preferring on having a business than sticking yourself

on an 8-5 job but there are instances most of the time which there's no much more wiser choice but rather sticking into your current job
which do really make you survive on day to day living.
Talking about ideally why leave a job and keep working, in my opinion, this depends on a person's situation and condition in living his life, staying working in a company is usually done by people who already have children or already have a family so what they need is that there will always be requests, and that's what cause someone does not want to leave his job to look for a new one because it takes quite a long time.
However, if you are a young person who is agile and still lacks experience, it is highly recommended to increase your experience in the world of work, it is also useful to add skills and be useful for the workplace you like or for your business someday.
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December 14, 2022, 08:45:00 PM
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Maybe this could be true when talking about insight and experience, but of course with new things we have to be prepared to readjust there to conditions where everything is new and in my opinion it's not worth it if there are no other benefits there.
On the other hand, maybe for people who like challenges, this is quite challenging, but for me, as long as I still benefit from my previous job and there is still no better job, I will stay at my old job, rather than looking for new hopes, which may not necessarily be good either. .
This is why its not really that something ideal nor worth if you do leave your job just because you dont like it or tending to look for job which does have better pay and something which is really in your

interest.People do really have these common reasons on why they do leave out their job because of these things.Although some would really be preferring on having a business than sticking yourself

on an 8-5 job but there are instances most of the time which there's no much more wiser choice but rather sticking into your current job
which do really make you survive on day to day living.
Precisely sometimes for general reasons that make them indecisive. They want to try something new, it's good like doing business or something and I like people like that, but on the other hand, we also know that everyone sometimes has their own qualifications and not necessarily follow other people with general reasons that can make them success too.
Even though the effort in trying to live a better life is good, on the other hand we also have to look at the worst possibility.

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Some companies do well in terms of taking care of their employees but some other companies really need to just improve, create a good working environment for the employees and provide incentives to keep them encouraged. The general mindset some people have while working for a company where they don't treat their employees well is to just gather enough money to go set up a business for themselves. Even with the current economy some people have calculated that setting up a business will be more beneficial seeing that these companies they've been working for a long time have refused reviewing their salary even with the rising cost of living, that is bad.

You are maybe right, but I think that depends on the situation of the countries ad the companies in that country. For example, some companies prefer to do not to focus on employee retention and they prefer to have a short-term employee instead of thinking about retention because they leave a long-term employee will have routine jobs and will lose hope for working and this will decrease the result they can get, in the other hand, some other companies will try to improve the employees and invest on them because they can trust the employees for a long term run.

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December 14, 2022, 09:33:48 PM
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Some companies do well in terms of taking care of their employees but some other companies really need to just improve, create a good working environment for the employees and provide incentives to keep them encouraged. The general mindset some people have while working for a company where they don't treat their employees well is to just gather enough money to go set up a business for themselves. Even with the current economy some people have calculated that setting up a business will be more beneficial seeing that these companies they've been working for a long time have refused reviewing their salary even with the rising cost of living, that is bad.

You are maybe right, but I think that depends on the situation of the countries ad the companies in that country. For example, some companies prefer to do not to focus on employee retention and they prefer to have a short-term employee instead of thinking about retention because they leave a long-term employee will have routine jobs and will lose hope for working and this will decrease the result they can get, in the other hand, some other companies will try to improve the employees and invest on them because they can trust the employees for a long term run.
Productivity wont decrease if the company knows on how to compensate out their hardwork, not on increasing their salaries directly but making up some incentives or bonuses in the end of the year or something like that, it is really just that not a right minding of things which doesnt really happen most of the time but its actually that right or considerable act as a business owner to have this kind of consideration at least, but well
we do know that not all of them would be sharing up with that kind of considerations in whether they would be letting their workers to stay up long in contract or would really be just good for short term.
Its up into their own discretion on how they would be handling out things.

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