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December 23, 2022, 05:31:18 AM
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If I was an employer and I would have to select one of employees that apply, I would take a person whos long term working experience in one company in his record of service, instead of a person that has changed 8 jobs in a single year, plus he probably has something unofficial. I value loyalty more, compared to how huge professional other employee is. I see no point in teaching, giving experience to a person, that tends to change jobs often. There are persons that aim on a result, try to build a career. You cant hold them forever with bonuses, high salary, free coffee and etc.

But in general a lot depends from a person. I know a guy, who works in a company since it was created (for 20+ years), his boss treats him and everybody like crap, he is in a bad relations with the boss, many people have left that company, that guy can also quit, but he keeps working there.
This is a wrong approach, and could be the worst one that I have seen in a long time. It is not the amount of jobs a person had, but the quality of the job they do which an employer should care about, because if you can find that one worker which could do what is asked, and do it perfectly, and even take incentive to do a better job than being asked, provide higher quality results than expected, then you do everything in your power to keep that person.

The reality is that most work places offer everyone the same amount of money, and offer a promotion as a promise, and people leave because of that, if I am 10x good and someone is 1x good and we get paid the same amount of money but I have a higher chance to promote, that's not good enough. I changed 7 jobs in 4 years before I found my latest job, been with the same boss for 6 years now. Shows you how it matters to reward the worker who works hard.

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December 23, 2022, 06:47:10 AM
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Currently I am still working in the office, and this is my third place after I graduated about 6 years ago, I have worked in a place now about 4 years and things that make me survive because now looking for work is very difficult, besides that there are many places in this place Things I can get because the company does the maximum thing to maintain its employees, small things are they give gifts on birthdays, and often eat together so as to make a like family.

If you have that knd of attachment and you are happy with the company then better to stay though there are many other opportunities and you may find something that will give better compensation.

But as lng as you are happy and you feel the comfort with your employer and your co-workers maybe being
satisfied is a good way if you are not willing to take the gamble in finding new place to work.
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December 24, 2022, 05:17:59 PM
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If we look from perspective of an employer they gain from resignation of a senior employee than losing for example if someone is working for years then probably they have to be paid higher so in case if the employee resign the employer can hire 2 freshers for the salary given for one senior employee which means more productive and more profits. I had seen lots of people complaining about their boss and company and keep telling they are going to quit soon but in reality they never did.

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December 24, 2022, 06:05:52 PM
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If we look from perspective of an employer they gain from resignation of a senior employee than losing for example if someone is working for years then probably they have to be paid higher so in case if the employee resign the employer can hire 2 freshers for the salary given for one senior employee which means more productive and more profits. I had seen lots of people complaining about their boss and company and keep telling they are going to quit soon but in reality they never did.
Yes, correct. I started to understand this thing when I worked with a big company now. It really doesn't matter if a senior level will resign it only matters to their teammate but for the higher ups, it could be another way for them to save a little since they will hire newbies or entry level candidates that can give lowball offer and can do the same job as the senior as time passes by. This will only affects to small company not for bigger ones.
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December 24, 2022, 06:26:27 PM
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If we look from perspective of an employer they gain from resignation of a senior employee than losing for example if someone is working for years then probably they have to be paid higher so in case if the employee resign the employer can hire 2 freshers for the salary given for one senior employee which means more productive and more profits. I had seen lots of people complaining about their boss and company and keep telling they are going to quit soon but in reality they never did.
Yes, correct. I started to understand this thing when I worked with a big company now. It really doesn't matter if a senior level will resign it only matters to their teammate but for the higher ups, it could be another way for them to save a little since they will hire newbies or entry level candidates that can give lowball offer and can do the same job as the senior as time passes by. This will only affects to small company not bigger ones.
Big companies believe that employees come and go so regardless of their seniority, they could automatically look for replacements just to continue their operation with the needed manpower. They are always ready for resignations, unlike small companies, as much as possible. They value their employees a lot because they are still the foundation and the body of the company. The attachment could only be between employees and other employees.
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December 24, 2022, 06:48:59 PM
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If we look from perspective of an employer they gain from resignation of a senior employee than losing for example if someone is working for years then probably they have to be paid higher so in case if the employee resign the employer can hire 2 freshers for the salary given for one senior employee which means more productive and more profits. I had seen lots of people complaining about their boss and company and keep telling they are going to quit soon but in reality they never did.
Yes, correct. I started to understand this thing when I worked with a big company now. It really doesn't matter if a senior level will resign it only matters to their teammate but for the higher ups, it could be another way for them to save a little since they will hire newbies or entry level candidates that can give lowball offer and can do the same job as the senior as time passes by. This will only affects to small company not bigger ones.
Big companies believe that employees come and go so regardless of their seniority, they could automatically look for replacements just to continue their operation with the needed manpower. They are always ready for resignations, unlike small companies, as much as possible. They value their employees a lot because they are still the foundation and the body of the company. The attachment could only be between employees and other employees.

Companies are ready for resignation if the employee has no big impact on the company like the employee has just doing the task that can be done by othe employee. I dont know but this kind of thing is offensive to me and i tend to do an payback on them by making the employed trust me and in the end left them hanging. I know it is bad but when i see that they usually threat other employees bad then that is the time i do my revenge by  leaving them hanging so that they will realize the importance of employees to them
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December 24, 2022, 10:36:35 PM
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If I was an employer and I would have to select one of employees that apply, I would take a person whos long term working experience in one company in his record of service, instead of a person that has changed 8 jobs in a single year, plus he probably has something unofficial. I value loyalty more, compared to how huge professional other employee is. I see no point in teaching, giving experience to a person, that tends to change jobs often. There are persons that aim on a result, try to build a career. You cant hold them forever with bonuses, high salary, free coffee and etc.

But in general a lot depends from a person. I know a guy, who works in a company since it was created (for 20+ years), his boss treats him and everybody like crap, he is in a bad relations with the boss, many people have left that company, that guy can also quit, but he keeps working there.
That line of thinking only ever works for small businesses in dire need of loyal workers who could easily be manipulated by the notion that your workplace is your second home and everyone in it is your family. People nowadays are smart enough to understamd how controlling this logic is and most modern companies with established names will not care about how many times an employee has switched companies as long as he has the expertise and the dedication to go to work to boot. Loyalty will only ever value the employer in this game between employer vs. employee. Before you question your employee's loyalty, make sure you give them something to be loyal for. Like maybe enough pay to make sure they don't starve to death after paying their utilities.

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