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December 15, 2022, 01:40:59 AM
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I work in a company that is managed by the third descendant of its founder, the good thing that I found is the number of employees who have been senior and some even work more than 30 years, when I ask their reasons because the company makes it easy in many ways such as debt, home loans, Vacation with family at the end of the year and so on.
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I work in a company that is managed by the third descendant of its founder, the good thing that I found is the number of employees who have been senior and some even work more than 30 years, when I ask their reasons because the company makes it easy in many ways such as debt, home loans, Vacation with family at the end of the year and so on.
This means that those who are senior and still remain in the company are because of the services provided by the company to them. Because maybe they can't get things like that at other companies so they don't want to leave the company to enter another company at this time. Apart from that, the pressure exerted by the company may also be lighter so that employees still have time to take care of their own families after returning from their workplace.

Then what about you yourself who also entered the company? Did you get into the company because you were motivated by similar things like what you said?
Because for me it is very logical for those who are already employees there to keep going until whenever or as long as they are still very profitable for themselves and the company.
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December 15, 2022, 04:31:18 AM
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What do you think? Are companies losing the battle for long term employee retention?
Companies that never reward their employees with decent salaries will always lose the battle with their employees because employees will choose to find a company that can appreciate them, especially if the employees are skill workers and live in countries where job opportunities are always wide open, but for developing countries or poor countries you will see employees will stay in the company even with long working hours and also not decent salaries because finding a new job is not easy in such countries.

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December 15, 2022, 05:20:00 AM
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To become a company that can survive and more advanced, it is needed loyal employees, but temptations with a better salary will certainly make employees feel like going out soon, this is the importance that the company must always follow the latest salary development so that it can provide salaries that make employees survive.
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Also a good working environment, most companion don't have good working environment to promote growth and friendly competition between the employees, they make it seems like some is been favored over the others instead of making everyone feel welcome and guarantee them of a promotion based ont the work they put in.

Many employees that quit don't only quit because of the salary as some get decent salary but they have other reasons like a workplace isn't been production them. If companies what to solve this problem them they have to be ready to reevaluate their work space to make sure their employees are happy working for them.

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December 16, 2022, 09:26:44 AM
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Actually employees can receive salaries from the company, even if the salary he receives is lower than the others, which makes people move to work usually due to work environment factors that are already uncomfortable, for example companies put pressure so that employees are better resigns.

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December 16, 2022, 01:22:54 PM
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Actually employees can receive salaries from the company, even if the salary he receives is lower than the others, which makes people move to work usually due to work environment factors that are already uncomfortable, for example companies put pressure so that employees are better resigns.
Salary rates from a company are based on the positions. Obviously high positions like managers can earn more while a common contractual workers can only earn less. Given that they are only contractual, its normal for them be removed by a company after some months no matter what are their performances are. For those who are regular already.

I think the only way for them to get remove is if they done something bad but they can do something like ask their boss to cut their salaries only to remain on their positions because looking for a job right now is also tough. If we are being pressured by our boss then maybe the pay rates that we are getting are also high enough. They have the rights of doing that but quitting isn't the only solution for this.

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December 16, 2022, 01:34:13 PM
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I think the biggest factor that makes it easy for employees to change workplaces is the ease of finding and submitting applications, now many job providers are making it easier for prospective employees, and I also often submit applications in the place that I like, and when there is an opportunity or a test and call of test and call Interview certainly asks permission.
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December 18, 2022, 01:02:17 PM
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Actually employees can receive salaries from the company, even if the salary he receives is lower than the others, which makes people move to work usually due to work environment factors that are already uncomfortable, for example companies put pressure so that employees are better resigns.
I think the amount of salary that can be a factor for employees to stay in the company. We don't need to be hypocritical that the amount of money is the main thing that is always looked at, without ruling out that comfort in the workplace is also very important. But let's be realistic, how many people who change jobs that pay them below the salary of their previous company? I don't think there will be many people like that.
It's different when the boss pressures his employees to resign, because in my opinion, self-esteem is also worth maintaining. That's not to say the employee can't stand the pressure, but again that's a different matter.

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December 18, 2022, 01:41:33 PM
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why employees leave the company, and in general or mostly it seems to me, is.
Inadequate salary and benefits.
No career growth.
Too burdensome for employees.
Unfriendly work environment.
Boredom and unsupported feelings.
Unhappiness.
Every day is a peak work day.
There is no work life balance.
No rest and free time to regain your energy.
Dissatisfaction with a dynamically changing corporate culture.
Lack of flexibility to learn and understand new roles in organizations or companies under different roles.
Bad manager.
Bad culture.
Lack of engagement.
A more politicized workplace.
Bad company reputation in the market.
and maybe there are many more reasons employees choose to leave the company, including maybe because they get a better job than before.

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December 18, 2022, 02:04:45 PM
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I think the amount of salary that can be a factor for employees to stay in the company. We don't need to be hypocritical that the amount of money is the main thing that is always looked at, without ruling out that comfort in the workplace is also very important. But let's be realistic, how many people who change jobs that pay them below the salary of their previous company? I don't think there will be many people like that.
It's different when the boss pressures his employees to resign, because in my opinion, self-esteem is also worth maintaining. That's not to say the employee can't stand the pressure, but again that's a different matter.
I had a case when I changed my job to a more comfortable one for me, while my salary at the beginning was less, but after a year I was getting more than at my previous job. Comfort is very important to me, I often see how people do what they don't like and endure it for years, because they are afraid that they won't find a better job. Fears very often prevent us from growing, but you need to be bolder, it’s better to try and know that you did everything in your power than to do what you don’t like.
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I think the biggest factor that makes it easy for employees to change workplaces is the ease of finding and submitting applications, now many job providers are making it easier for prospective employees, and I also often submit applications in the place that I like, and when there is an opportunity or a test and call of test and call Interview certainly asks permission.
Easy to apply does not mean it can be just as easy when working. You yourself only went through an easy application process, but you didn't tell how easy and difficult it was to work after being accepted by the company.

Now it is very easy for companies to create job advertisements because the company is in need of new employees, but not many companies include the mechanism for working in their place in the advertisements they make. And their (company) goal of not including this is to be able to attract the interest of many people to apply there.

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December 18, 2022, 02:38:56 PM
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I think the biggest factor that makes it easy for employees to change workplaces is the ease of finding and submitting applications, now many job providers are making it easier for prospective employees, and I also often submit applications in the place that I like, and when there is an opportunity or a test and call of test and call Interview certainly asks permission.
Easy to apply does not mean it can be just as easy when working. You only went through an easy application process, but you didn't tell me how easy and difficult it was to work after being accepted by the company.

Now it is very easy for companies to create job advertisements because the company needs new employees, but not many companies include the mechanism for working in their place in the advertisements they make. And their (company) goal of not including this is to be able to attract the interest of many people to apply there.

Employees could stay loyal if they will feel valued and if they're getting enough benefits that they deserve. We can't question the employees who leave because they still have the right to look for better opportunities that will match their skills. The company would have adjustments if they lost skilled employees but that's part of the business. Employees always seek comfort not just in salary but also in a working environment so the company should assure that their employees are safe and secured if they want to keep them.
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December 19, 2022, 08:06:55 AM
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The presence of many job seeker applications at this time makes anyone tempted to send applications, moreover to send an application it only takes a few moments then wait for the call for an interview, even during covid there was an application that immediately gave tests in stages to online interviews and if you pass, of course you just have to sign employment contract.



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December 19, 2022, 11:33:00 PM
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They are losing the proverbial battle because they do not  want to play the game they started with the employees. They do not want employees to go and yet they continue their malpractices like it's a regular old Tuesday for them. Even the simple case of increasing their salaries to livable levels is already apparently a herculean task for them, how could you expect these companies to actually solve the bigger and more pressing issues about employment? Altogether, this is a losing battle for them, and now that the pandemic opened the people's eyes to just how much opportunities there are beyond the regular 9-5, they'll realize they don't have that much power over the people anymore.
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December 19, 2022, 11:56:18 PM
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I think the biggest factor that makes it easy for employees to change workplaces is the ease of finding and submitting applications, now many job providers are making it easier for prospective employees, and I also often submit applications in the place that I like, and when there is an opportunity or a test and call of test and call Interview certainly asks permission.
Easy to apply does not mean it can be just as easy when working. You only went through an easy application process, but you didn't tell me how easy and difficult it was to work after being accepted by the company.

Now it is very easy for companies to create job advertisements because the company needs new employees, but not many companies include the mechanism for working in their place in the advertisements they make. And their (company) goal of not including this is to be able to attract the interest of many people to apply there.

Employees could stay loyal if they will feel valued and if they're getting enough benefits that they deserve. We can't question the employees who leave because they still have the right to look for better opportunities that will match their skills. The company would have adjustments if they lost skilled employees but that's part of the business. Employees always seek comfort not just in salary but also in a working environment so the company should assure that their employees are safe and secured if they want to keep them.
Yeah, there are several factors which would really affect for those employees whether to stay or not on a particular company.I've seen that there are ones who are well paid but still eventually ending up
on having those resignation just because they're getting stressed out on the working environment which is something  that that couldnt really bare out and ending up on leaving the job and find
for another place which they would really be seeing for it to be comfortable for them. Yes, its up to companies actions whether they would be offering something just to stop their skilled and
good employees or just simply trying out to patch up if ever they would be leaving out the company, as simple as that.
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December 19, 2022, 11:59:05 PM
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Employees could stay loyal if they will feel valued and if they're getting enough benefits that they deserve. We can't question the employees who leave because they still have the right to look for better opportunities that will match their skills. The company would have adjustments if they lost skilled employees but that's part of the business. Employees always seek comfort not just in salary but also in a working environment so the company should assure that their employees are safe and secured if they want to keep them.
Those that leave have many reasons and for sure a lot of it is because of the environment, it could be toxic, or inappropriate or they have a colleague that they don't like that keeps acting like a boss. That's normal in an office setup and that's why those that are leaving are finding their peace and happiness through another company that they think will settle for good. That's why there's always imbalance, someone who has a high salary but just enduring the toxic environment and doesn't really love the job he has and the opposite for those low wages but are staying because of less toxicity.

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December 21, 2022, 02:05:04 AM
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The presence of many job seeker applications at this time makes anyone tempted to send applications, moreover to send an application it only takes a few moments then wait for the call for an interview, even during covid there was an application that immediately gave tests in stages to online interviews and if you pass, of course you just have to sign employment contract.
The purpose of making an online application application is to make it easier for corporate agencies to collect documents from each applicant and also for their convenience from those who apply without having to come to the office to submit a job application. In fact, this is indeed a natural thing to implement because considering that currently in certain countries there are still very many unemployed people who are looking for work, so the company made the application to make it easier to check and verify applicant data in full.
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December 21, 2022, 10:28:32 AM
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The presence of many job seeker applications at this time makes anyone tempted to send applications, moreover to send an application it only takes a few moments then wait for the call for an interview, even during covid there was an application that immediately gave tests in stages to online interviews and if you pass, of course you just have to sign employment contract.
The purpose of making an online application application is to make it easier for corporate agencies to collect documents from each applicant and also for their convenience from those who apply without having to come to the office to submit a job application. In fact, this is indeed a natural thing to implement because considering that currently in certain countries there are still very many unemployed people who are looking for work, so the company made the application to make it easier to check and verify applicant data in full.

A good way to sort those capable and fit to what the company is looking, online submission or application gives the applicant a good chance
to land a job without travelling and spending more.

If luck permits and the company is also good with online interviews, that again is additional perks
that will lessen the expenses of the applicant. Most of the time employers are after to those who
can fill the position who are really eager to work and learn for them.
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December 21, 2022, 10:43:07 AM
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If I was an employer and I would have to select one of employees that apply, I would take a person whos long term working experience in one company in his record of service, instead of a person that has changed 8 jobs in a single year, plus he probably has something unofficial. I value loyalty more, compared to how huge professional other employee is. I see no point in teaching, giving experience to a person, that tends to change jobs often. There are persons that aim on a result, try to build a career. You cant hold them forever with bonuses, high salary, free coffee and etc.

But in general a lot depends from a person. I know a guy, who works in a company since it was created (for 20+ years), his boss treats him and everybody like crap, he is in a bad relations with the boss, many people have left that company, that guy can also quit, but he keeps working there.

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Currently I am still working in the office, and this is my third place after I graduated about 6 years ago, I have worked in a place now about 4 years and things that make me survive because now looking for work is very difficult, besides that there are many places in this place Things I can get because the company does the maximum thing to maintain its employees, small things are they give gifts on birthdays, and often eat together so as to make a like family.



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