Croatian League - Hrvatska nogometna liga

[Daniel91]

Even without all those players, Dynamo still has the strongest team in the Croatian football league. Only in Dinamo could it happen that such a quality striker as Drmic doesn't play, because there are better quality strikers than him in the team.
In the same way, Dinamo will earn enough from the transfers of Orsic, Livakovic, Petkovic and Ademi to be able to bring any player from the Croatian football league to the club and thus further weaken their competitors, as they did when they brought Bockaj from Osijek, who later played very little in Dinamo.
For Dinamo and its future, a much greater danger is the fratricidal war between two factions in the club for power, between Antolic and Mamic, and this could lead to serious problems in the management of the club.

That may be the case, but if Dinamo signs majority of the good players from other clubs, what is the future od Croatian clubs in European leagues? All other clubs will play less and less important part in the European leagues and that will weaken Croatian coefficient even more.

As for the fight between two factions, that is a serious problem which I hope they will be able to solve. It amazes me how a person like Mamic can influence things in the club even though he is not in the country anymore.

For the past 10 years, Dinamo has been the only Croatian club that has been competitive in European club competitions and regularly makes it to the group stage of European competitions.
Rijeka managed to reach the group stage of the European league several times, but they have not been competitive and successful in European competitions for a long time.
The results of other Croatian clubs in European competitions are disappointing, especially from Hajduk.
And it's not really a surprise that Mamic still has such an influence on the club. When you look at the Dinamo club's assembly, they are mostly people that Mamic brought to the club and to whom they are indebted, because of the jobs they got or because of family ties.

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[slackovic]

Croatian HNL league is starting again with a Gorica - Varaždin game which should have been played in November but was postponed. Gorica's new coach Željko Sopić said that getting relegated is not an option so we will see how today's game will end for them. With only seven points in 16 games they desperately need a victory. Three players came on loan from Osijek and they should help them in a battle not to get relegated.

Varaždin on the other hand is in a pretty good position as they are currently sitting in the fifth position. But during this winter break six of their players so we will see how they will continue a battle for one of the top places that lead to European competitions.

[Daniel91]

Dinamo played disappointingly in the match against Gorica today. In the match against the weakest team in the league, they played only 0:0 at home.
It is obvious that the absence of Orsic and Petković and the factional conflicts in the club affect the entire club, as well as the performances of the first team.
Tomorrow, Hajduk has a chance with a victory against Sibenik to come within 4 points of Dinamo and make the championship interesting again.
If Dinamo does not find the right replacement for Orsic, it will face a very difficult fight for the title of Croatian champion.

[Joca97]

Dinamo played disappointingly in the match against Gorica today. In the match against the weakest team in the league, they played only 0:0 at home.
It is obvious that the absence of Orsic and Petković and the factional conflicts in the club affect the entire club, as well as the performances of the first team.
Tomorrow, Hajduk has a chance with a victory against Sibenik to come within 4 points of Dinamo and make the championship interesting again.
If Dinamo does not find the right replacement for Orsic, it will face a very difficult fight for the title of Croatian champion.

Dissapointing result for Dinamo Zagreb this draw is like a loss. Its always wierd that first place teams lose points against the last team in the league. Gorica has been awful through the entire season and they start the second half of the season with a big points and this gives hope for them not to get relegated.

[Daniel91]

Dinamo played disappointingly in the match against Gorica today. In the match against the weakest team in the league, they played only 0:0 at home.
It is obvious that the absence of Orsic and Petković and the factional conflicts in the club affect the entire club, as well as the performances of the first team.
Tomorrow, Hajduk has a chance with a victory against Sibenik to come within 4 points of Dinamo and make the championship interesting again.
If Dinamo does not find the right replacement for Orsic, it will face a very difficult fight for the title of Croatian champion.

Dissapointing result for Dinamo Zagreb this draw is like a loss. Its always wierd that first place teams lose points against the last team in the league. Gorica has been awful through the entire season and they start the second half of the season with a big points and this gives hope for them not to get relegated.

I'm actually surprised to see Gorica at the bottom of the rankings. Just one or two seasons ago, they were the hit of the Croatian football league and were fighting for a place in European club competitions.
I don't really understand what happened to that club in the meantime.
As for Dinamo, judging by their start to the new part of the season, a big fight awaits them with Hajduk for the title of Croatian champion.
The departure of Oršić to England, who saved them last season with his goals in many uncertain matches, is clearly an irreparable handicap.
Of course, the general atmosphere in the club and the war for power in the club between the two factions does not help much either.

[slackovic]

I'm actually surprised to see Gorica at the bottom of the rankings. Just one or two seasons ago, they were the hit of the Croatian football league and were fighting for a place in European club competitions.
I don't really understand what happened to that club in the meantime.
As for Dinamo, judging by their start to the new part of the season, a big fight awaits them with Hajduk for the title of Croatian champion.
The departure of Oršić to England, who saved them last season with his goals in many uncertain matches, is clearly an irreparable handicap.
Of course, the general atmosphere in the club and the war for power in the club between the two factions does not help much either.

Gorica manages to end this week with two draw games which could be an indicator that they are improving their form. I guess they will fight Šibenik not to finish at the last place.

Interestingly, all but one game this week ended with a draw. Only Hajduk managed to beat Šibenik.

[Daniel91]

I'm actually surprised to see Gorica at the bottom of the rankings. Just one or two seasons ago, they were the hit of the Croatian football league and were fighting for a place in European club competitions.
I don't really understand what happened to that club in the meantime.
As for Dinamo, judging by their start to the new part of the season, a big fight awaits them with Hajduk for the title of Croatian champion.
The departure of Oršić to England, who saved them last season with his goals in many uncertain matches, is clearly an irreparable handicap.
Of course, the general atmosphere in the club and the war for power in the club between the two factions does not help much either.

Gorica manages to end this week with two draw games which could be an indicator that they are improving their form. I guess they will fight Šibenik not to finish at the last place.

Interestingly, all but one game this week ended with a draw. Only Hajduk managed to beat Šibenik.

It is still too early to draw conclusions whether Gorica will save themselves from relegation from the league, but they started very well in the continuation of the championship.
All clubs had problems in the game due to the very difficult weather conditions currently prevailing in Croatia, and it might even be better if some matches were postponed.
What I saw in the match between Hajduk and Sibenik, especially in the second half, these were really not normal conditions for the game and it was really difficult for Hajduk to organize the game.
In any case, it's good that Dinamo didn't win, because now the whole championship has become more interesting to watch 

[Daniel91]

Dinamo is playing a very important match today against its city rival Lokomitiva.
Once upon a time, the results of their mutual matches were known in advance and Dinamo always won, but in recent years that has not been the case and Dinamo often lost points in matches against Lokomotiva.
If Dinamo does not beat Lokomotiva after Gorica, and Hajduk wins Istra, then the championship becomes completely open and uncertain until the end.
It is obvious that the current events in the club and the power struggle have a great impact on the players and their results.
Can Dinamo players focus only on football in these conditions?

[slackovic]

Dinamo is playing a very important match today against its city rival Lokomitiva.
Once upon a time, the results of their mutual matches were known in advance and Dinamo always won, but in recent years that has not been the case and Dinamo often lost points in matches against Lokomotiva.
If Dinamo does not beat Lokomotiva after Gorica, and Hajduk wins Istra, then the championship becomes completely open and uncertain until the end.
It is obvious that the current events in the club and the power struggle have a great impact on the players and their results.
Can Dinamo players focus only on football in these conditions?

Well... It didn't happen. Dinamo won the game 2-1. Lokomotiva woke up in the second period but they managed to score only one goal, even though Dinamo's Mišić got second yellow card. Now with even number of played games, Hajduk is seven points behind Dinamo.

[MAAManda]

Today we'll have Istra 1961 Vs Hajduk Split match, TBH I don't know this league very well, what I do know is that the team at the top is of course a strong team. If we choose win for Istra 1961 in this match we'll get @4.5 odds while for the Hajduk Split win, we'll only get @1.71 odds.

I want to ask for advice from you @slackovic, as a native, can you give me a bit of your views on predictions for this match? is it better for me to choose 1x2 bet or is it better to choose a handicap bet?

[Daniel91]

Dinamo is playing a very important match today against its city rival Lokomitiva.
Once upon a time, the results of their mutual matches were known in advance and Dinamo always won, but in recent years that has not been the case and Dinamo often lost points in matches against Lokomotiva.
If Dinamo does not beat Lokomotiva after Gorica, and Hajduk wins Istra, then the championship becomes completely open and uncertain until the end.
It is obvious that the current events in the club and the power struggle have a great impact on the players and their results.
Can Dinamo players focus only on football in these conditions?

Well... It didn't happen. Dinamo won the game 2-1. Lokomotiva woke up in the second period but they managed to score only one goal, even though Dinamo's Mišić got second yellow card. Now with even number of played games, Hajduk is seven points behind Dinamo.

Dinamo dominated the first half and it is incredible that they did not score more than one goal in that part of the game.
In the second half, we watched a completely different game and Livakovic saved Dinamo again.
Lokomotiva once again showed how unpleasant the opponent is for Dinamo lately.
It is obvious that all these events surrounding the club and the struggle for power, as well as the great uncertainty of what will eventually happen to the club, affect the players and their performances in matches.
Hajduk still has a chance to catch up with Dinamo if they don't lose points in small games and if they do better in their head-to-head duels with Dinamo.

[Trofo]

Hajduk still has a chance to catch up with Dinamo if they don't lose points in small games and if they do better in their head-to-head duels with Dinamo.

Do you wish to edit this part of the post now that Hajduk lost 3:0 against Istra 

No matter how bad Dinamo gets and how many problems they have they will still be better than rest of the clubs in the league, including Hajduk. But there is no denying, Dinamo is currently in really big problems and something is not right in dressing room. Few of their best players including captain Ademi want to leave the club and that is always a really bad sign.

[slackovic]

Do you wish to edit this part of the post now that Hajduk lost 3:0 against Istra 

Hajduk looked really bad yesterday and those two goals that were denied due to the offside didn't help. When we look at the league table it is clear that Osijek and Hajduk will have to be careful not to let other clubs take their place in the battle for the European competitions.

No matter how bad Dinamo gets and how many problems they have they will still be better than rest of the clubs in the league, including Hajduk. But there is no denying, Dinamo is currently in really big problems and something is not right in dressing room. Few of their best players including captain Ademi want to leave the club and that is always a really bad sign.

Dinamo has real problems and they need to solve them ASAP. The title probably isn't in question but you can't expect good results in the international games when the captain wants to leave the club. I really hope they will solve their problems because Dinamo is the only reason why Croatia still has three spots in the European competitions.

[Sirait]

Do you wish to edit this part of the post now that Hajduk lost 3:0 against Istra 

Hajduk looked really bad yesterday and those two goals that were denied due to the offside didn't help. When we look at the league table it is clear that Osijek and Hajduk will have to be careful not to let other clubs take their place in the battle for the European competitions.

even though I am not familiar with the Croatian league, I still hope that the Croatian league can compete with other major European leagues and regarding the match between Istra vs Hadjuk yesterday, many were very disappointed with the result, even though Hadjuk was more favored to win but they failed to do that. erceg was the man of the match he scored 2 beautiful goals, really good for istra.

[slackovic]

even though I am not familiar with the Croatian league, I still hope that the Croatian league can compete with other major European leagues and regarding the match between Istra vs Hadjuk yesterday, many were very disappointed with the result, even though Hadjuk was more favored to win but they failed to do that. erceg was the man of the match he scored 2 beautiful goals, really good for istra.

Croatian clubs will continue to play in the European competitions but with lowered coefficient it will be harder for them to qualify for the group stage. Dinamo is the only club that actually has good results from the European competitions while other clubs often lose their games against much weaker opponents. If the Croatian league's coefficient goes down, the league will have less spots that lead to European competitions and those that secure those spots will have a hard time winning because they will face stronger teams.

In the meantime another player has left Dinamo. This time it's Danish Rasmus Lauritsen who signed for Bröndby. Dinamo will earn 3 mil. euros plus 20% of his next transfer. While there are a lot of rumors about players leaving Dinamo, it looks like Dinamo could sign Swiss national team player Omeragić but the transfer is not certain because two clubs are yet to arrange the deal.

[Daniel91]

even though I am not familiar with the Croatian league, I still hope that the Croatian league can compete with other major European leagues and regarding the match between Istra vs Hadjuk yesterday, many were very disappointed with the result, even though Hadjuk was more favored to win but they failed to do that. erceg was the man of the match he scored 2 beautiful goals, really good for istra.

Croatian clubs will continue to play in the European competitions but with lowered coefficient it will be harder for them to qualify for the group stage. Dinamo is the only club that actually has good results from the European competitions while other clubs often lose their games against much weaker opponents. If the Croatian league's coefficient goes down, the league will have less spots that lead to European competitions and those that secure those spots will have a hard time winning because they will face stronger teams.

In the meantime another player has left Dinamo. This time it's Danish Rasmus Lauritsen who signed for Bröndby. Dinamo will earn 3 mil. euros plus 20% of his next transfer. While there are a lot of rumors about players leaving Dinamo, it looks like Dinamo could sign Swiss national team player Omeragić but the transfer is not certain because two clubs are yet to arrange the deal.

I think it's only a matter of time and the right offer when Ademi, Petkovic and Livakovic will leave Dinamo, and without these three players the Dinamo team will be much weaker.
Ok, for the Croatian league Dynamo will still have a strong enough team to win the title of national champion, but I think that in international competitions they will no longer be as competitive and successful as in previous years.
Hajduk is a big disappointment for me in the Croatian league this year, Rijeka also, Osijek are selling their best players and I also don't see that these clubs have the potential and chance to be competitive in European competitions next season.
Unfortunately, Croatia will remain competitive only at the representative level, but at the club level we will remain uncompetitive and without results, and that is our reality.
Our clubs, with the exception of Dinamo, simply cannot financially and organizationally follow the level of the best European clubs, or even clubs from the region, for example Serbia.

[slackovic]

I think it's only a matter of time and the right offer when Ademi, Petkovic and Livakovic will leave Dinamo, and without these three players the Dinamo team will be much weaker.
Ok, for the Croatian league Dynamo will still have a strong enough team to win the title of national champion, but I think that in international competitions they will no longer be as competitive and successful as in previous years.
Hajduk is a big disappointment for me in the Croatian league this year, Rijeka also, Osijek are selling their best players and I also don't see that these clubs have the potential and chance to be competitive in European competitions next season.
Unfortunately, Croatia will remain competitive only at the representative level, but at the club level we will remain uncompetitive and without results, and that is our reality.
Our clubs, with the exception of Dinamo, simply cannot financially and organizationally follow the level of the best European clubs, or even clubs from the region, for example Serbia.

Well, since the transfer deadline has passed it looks like all other players will remain in the club until the end of this season. I'm not sure what happened with Ademi but Croatian media says that the coach Cacic stopped his transfer. But if the team captain wants to leave the club, it's questionable how well he will perform. The only hope is that the situation in Dinamo gets resolved before the next transfer period and players decide to stay in the club.

I'm not sure what has to happen in order for the other clubs like Osijek, Rijeka, Hajduk to become more competitive in the European competitions. It looks like a vicious circle from which I see no way out.

[Daniel91]

I think it's only a matter of time and the right offer when Ademi, Petkovic and Livakovic will leave Dinamo, and without these three players the Dinamo team will be much weaker.
Ok, for the Croatian league Dynamo will still have a strong enough team to win the title of national champion, but I think that in international competitions they will no longer be as competitive and successful as in previous years.
Hajduk is a big disappointment for me in the Croatian league this year, Rijeka also, Osijek are selling their best players and I also don't see that these clubs have the potential and chance to be competitive in European competitions next season.
Unfortunately, Croatia will remain competitive only at the representative level, but at the club level we will remain uncompetitive and without results, and that is our reality.
Our clubs, with the exception of Dinamo, simply cannot financially and organizationally follow the level of the best European clubs, or even clubs from the region, for example Serbia.

Well, since the transfer deadline has passed it looks like all other players will remain in the club until the end of this season. I'm not sure what happened with Ademi but Croatian media says that the coach Cacic stopped his transfer. But if the team captain wants to leave the club, it's questionable how well he will perform. The only hope is that the situation in Dinamo gets resolved before the next transfer period and players decide to stay in the club.

I'm not sure what has to happen in order for the other clubs like Osijek, Rijeka, Hajduk to become more competitive in the European competitions. It looks like a vicious circle from which I see no way out.

Yes, you are right, Ademi wanted to leave due to his dissatisfaction with the situation in the club, but he is not allowed to change the club.
It is never a good idea to leave a dissatisfied player in the team, and considering how much Ademi has given to the club all these years, he certainly did not deserve the club to treat him like this.
Personally, I think that all three players, Ademi, Livakovic and Petkovic, will leave the club at the end of the season.
As for Hajduk, Rijeka and Osijek, I think it is not realistic that they will become competitive in European competitions in the near future, and the main reason, apart from finances, is the lack of a long-term vision and plan.
Miskovic sells out the entire first team every year, Hajduk sells out all young and talented footballers for little money, and last season when Osijek had a real chance to fight Dinamo for the title, he sold his best player to Dinamo.
With such weak competition, which is only thinking about how to sell its best players and earn money, Dinamo does not have to worry about its dominance in the Croatian league.

[slackovic]

Yes, you are right, Ademi wanted to leave due to his dissatisfaction with the situation in the club, but he is not allowed to change the club.
It is never a good idea to leave a dissatisfied player in the team, and considering how much Ademi has given to the club all these years, he certainly did not deserve the club to treat him like this.
Personally, I think that all three players, Ademi, Livakovic and Petkovic, will leave the club at the end of the season.

If things don't get sorted out in Dinamo, I expect even more players to leave Dinamo. Not just those three players. I'm sure that anyone playing in the club will rather go to some other club that doesn't have problems and fraction wars.

As for Hajduk, Rijeka and Osijek, I think it is not realistic that they will become competitive in European competitions in the near future, and the main reason, apart from finances, is the lack of a long-term vision and plan.
Miskovic sells out the entire first team every year, Hajduk sells out all young and talented footballers for little money, and last season when Osijek had a real chance to fight Dinamo for the title, he sold his best player to Dinamo.
With such weak competition, which is only thinking about how to sell its best players and earn money, Dinamo does not have to worry about its dominance in the Croatian league.

I think that this is the main reason why Croatian club football is getting weaker every year. Every year Dinamo doesn't have to worry about becoming a champion. They just have to be good in the first part of the season to compete in the European competitions because wins in those competitions bring the money to the club. After they get kicked out, they can start selling players because there's no need to pay their high wages to play in the Croatian league.

[swogerino]

Even if such players leave Dinamo they will be still the top contender for the title and mainly they will win it.As you say the lack of a plan and also finances impact all the other teams but I want to emphasize another fact here which makes it even more clear,the fact is that Dinamo for example when facing such teams they go and win with a tennis result like 5-1 against Hajduk last season or two seasons ago I don't remember this well but when I saw that result it impressed me a lot in a bad way and I thought to myself,how can Hajduk be a contender when they lose 5-1 to the top team?