Decoin , msko SCAM accusation !

[Mikadodu13]

What happened::

SCAM alts

Scammers Profile Link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3311450.0

Amount Scammed:

2000$ alts

Additional Notes:

hello, big worries for decoin.
the platform was planted in the middle of the day on September 15, then inaccessible..
on this platform I have about 2000$ in various alts that I would like to recover!
emails disabled by customer service...
I tried to start the discussion with the CEO of decoin, who founded a company for MSKO games with the founder of decoin who is also the founder of msko! ...
Decoin founder  / nadav Moshe 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3311450.0
Msko co founder .. nadav Moshe  / https://cryptototem.com/the-six-muskotiers-msko/
we can see that some members of the decoin team are also in msko..
the discussion with the CEO shay perry, went around in circles...
anyway, decoin had been planning a scam for a while i think.. the members of the departures team quit as soon as the project was launched, until the scam came, on linkedin he had supposedly all quit already decoin for 6 months or more already 😭. . was it premeditated?
Short ..
I'm not used to making scam reports, so sorry if it's done badly..
but i think the main thing is there.

[jbflori]

Why anybody (internet, press, forum, ...) talk about this dead exchange ?

[Jawhead999]

Wapinter is just posting the ANN thread, actually the real scammer is the developer of Decoin exchange that we don't know who's him. Just wonder how you can find this exchange and want to use it, however it's a dumb idea to leave your coins on the exchange, you should move it to your hardware wallet after you bought the coins from this exchange. Is there no any news or warning message if they want to shut down their exchange? you should check your email.

[Blowon]

wapinter i thought just posted and i remember him as decoin bounty manager , if you have a problem with your money , that means you are dealing with the founder of decoin , you can try to contact wapinter maybe he can help you to connect directly with the founder of Decoin , i also have a bit of money there but i had forgotten about it.

this is for a lesson in your finances , better to keep in your personal wallet address or at least choose a reputable and clear exchange

in crypto there is nothing we can predict

[Mikadodu13]

wapinter i thought just posted and i remember him as decoin bounty manager , if you have a problem with your money , that means you are dealing with the founder of decoin , you can try to contact wapinter maybe he can help you to connect directly with the founder of Decoin , i also have a bit of money there but i had forgotten about it.

this is for a lesson in your finances , better to keep in your personal wallet address or at least choose a reputable and clear exchange

in crypto there is nothing we can predict

slt, no there's nothing more to hope for from decoin, it's all just scam!
I discussed more than 1 month with shay perry who makes me turn in circles more than other things..
Anyway, I looked at the profiles of the members of the decoin team, honestly it's worth a look to unmask future scams .. (it's really even abused .. there are several identical platform projects a decoin under development.. )
in short, just an advice for those who will read, before venturing into a project. go on LinkedIn to see in which project the project team has already worked.
in short, I assume the losses, that's how it is...

[Pmalek]

I'm not used to making scam reports, so sorry if it's done badly..
but i think the main thing is there.

To be honest, you haven't posted anything useful.

The link to the CEO of the company points to the ANN thread on Bitcointalk that was posted by a bounty manager. I am not sure if you think Wapinter and the CEO are the same person or why this link is here in the first place.
I have never heard of this exchange, but if it died with your $2.000 in altcoins on it, then yeah, you lost that money. In the future, remember to not use exchanges as wallets. You now know why you shouldn't.

There is nothing people here can do to help you recover your losses. But for this to be a proper scam accusation, it needs to contain proof.
- There is no proof you discussed anything with anyone.
- There is no proof you deposited $2.000 to the site.
- There is no proof you had $2.000 worth of coins when the site stopped its operations.

[Mikadodu13]

do you want full details? no worries tomorrow I'll put you the discussions with shay perry whole..

[Pmalek]

I don't think it's going to change anything, but I am just telling you how a proper scam accusation is supposed to look like. Someone looking at the thread and the evidence provided is supposed to have no doubt that you got scammed. With the way you did it, that's not the case. It's just some text that hasn't been backed up by any proof and even contains links that shouldn't be there, like the link to the ANN thread. 

[Mikadodu13]

I don't think it's going to change anything, but I am just telling you how a proper scam accusation is supposed to look like. Someone looking at the thread and the evidence provided is supposed to have no doubt that you got scammed. With the way you did it, that's not the case. It's just some text that hasn't been backed up by any proof and even contains links that shouldn't be there, like the link to the ANN thread. 

how do I put on screens if I no longer have access to the platform?
Short,
tomorrow I will post the discussions or mr shay perry who is no longer supposedly in the team, but who offers to help me if I erase my accusations against msko (remember this name, he will come back here one day.. as cindx is another project i would list!!!)
I would like to know how he intended to help me knowing who no longer has access to the platform is no longer part of the decoin team..

in short, he took me for a fool, they just delayed the scam report..

ps / go to trust pilot or even the people harmed by decoin..
PS 2  / I warned that I am not accustomed to the scam report! I will try to complete it tomorrow as best as possible..

[Pmalek]

how do I put on screens if I no longer have access to the platform?

I know, it puts you in a pickle. Most cryptocurrencies use public blockchains where transaction data can be verified by anyone. It's an invasion of your privacy, but you could show records proving you deposited those coins to an address/addresses connected with that Decoin exchange. Your receiving address on Decoin would, of course, have to be connected to a known Decoin address by some service like WalletExplorer, Breadcrumbs, or similar.     

[Mikadodu13]

how do I put on screens if I no longer have access to the platform?

I know, it puts you in a pickle. Most cryptocurrencies use public blockchains where transaction data can be verified by anyone. It's an invasion of your privacy, but you could show records proving you deposited those coins to an address/addresses connected with that Decoin exchange. Your receiving address on Decoin would, of course, have to be connected to a known Decoin address by some service like WalletExplorer, Breadcrumbs, or similar.     

I'll look at my transaction history and find it for you! it's not the problem, just a bit of research to do and I'll send it to you in a few days!

[Pmalek]

I'll send it to you in a few days!

There is nothing I can do to get you your money back, so there is no need to do that. That platform is also not represented here on the forum, so aside from Wapinter, there is no one else to contact for help or tag. I don't consider a bounty manager creating a thread an official representative. They were paid for handling the bounty and designing the thread, and that's where it ends, unless the bounty manager stated publicly he is an official representative. 

[Mikadodu13]

I'll send it to you in a few days!

There is nothing I can do to get you your money back, so there is no need to do that. That platform is also not represented here on the forum, so aside from Wapinter, there is no one else to contact for help or tag. I don't consider a bounty manager creating a thread an official representative. They were paid for handling the bounty and designing the thread, and that's where it ends, unless the bounty manager stated publicly he is an official representative.  

is this topic??
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3311450

dsl, for me this subject is not a bonus!
this is the official topic that is on bitcointalk! so wapinter is responsible for it! .. if we can no longer rely on recognized members, this forum becomes useless!
in short .. I understood that my money was lost!

wonder how you can keep this member with so many negative reviews since 2019! (only spam scams since 2019!)

[Pmalek]

is this topic??
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3311450
this is the official topic that is on bitcointalk! so wapinter is responsible for it!

I took a look at some random pages in that thread searching if Wapinter wrote posts and engaged the community in discussion after creating the OP. And he actually did. So he wasn't just a bounty manager, but someone who had a vested interest in seeing that project succeed or he was paid to maintain that thread. In either case, there is a connection between him and the project, which was bigger than someone just being employed to create the opening post. Have you contacted him and asked him to comment?

wonder how you can keep this member with so many negative reviews since 2019! (only spam scams since 2019!)

That's because scams are not moderated on Bitcointalk and scammers don't get banned. The community tags them and issues negative feedback, and it's up to the forum users to research and decide for themselves who they want to trust and who not.

[Mikadodu13]

is this topic??
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3311450
this is the official topic that is on bitcointalk! so wapinter is responsible for it!

I took a look at some random pages in that thread searching if Wapinter wrote posts and engaged the community in discussion after creating the OP. And he actually did. So he wasn't just a bounty manager, but someone who had a vested interest in seeing that project succeed or he was paid to maintain that thread. In either case, there is a connection between him and the project, which was bigger than someone just being employed to create the opening post. Have you contacted him and asked him to comment?

wonder how you can keep this member with so many negative reviews since 2019! (only spam scams since 2019!)

That's because scams are not moderated on Bitcointalk and scammers don't get banned. The community tags them and issues negative feedback, and it's up to the forum users to research and decide for themselves who they want to trust and who not.

I just did it just now.
But I doubt who can do much.
the platform has been completely disabled, error 512..
the app is also dead.
I'm going to tempt the devil again, by giving this link to Mr Shay Perry on telegram 🤣 who tries nothing has nothing..
I'd rather laugh than cry.
fortunately I have investments from everywhere because 2k$ for some people is huge!
thank you for taking the time to answer me, now other than waiting for someone to show up from the decoin team, there is nothing else to do.

[Wapinter]

is this topic??
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3311450
this is the official topic that is on bitcointalk! so wapinter is responsible for it!

I took a look at some random pages in that thread searching if Wapinter wrote posts and engaged the community in discussion after creating the OP. And he actually did. So he wasn't just a bounty manager, but someone who had a vested interest in seeing that project succeed or he was paid to maintain that thread. In either case, there is a connection between him and the project, which was bigger than someone just being employed to create the opening post. Have you contacted him and asked him to comment?

wonder how you can keep this member with so many negative reviews since 2019! (only spam scams since 2019!)

That's because scams are not moderated on Bitcointalk and scammers don't get banned. The community tags them and issues negative feedback, and it's up to the forum users to research and decide for themselves who they want to trust and who not.

What a stupid logic. Yes I got paid for posting that thread and that's a common practice here. So many members get paid for posting a thread.
I am not and was not related to decoun except that I managed their bounty campaign and all participants got paid for it.
The exchange was operational since 2019 and now I come to know from op that it has disappeared.
I or any bounty manager can not gurantee for the lifetime running if any project.
Op should not have kept his funds on exchange. Many big exchanges have disappeared or hacked and members funds lost.
Stop blaming others for own foolishness

[Pmalek]

What a stupid logic.

Whose logic is stupid, mine or the OP's? If it's mine, what did I say that was wrong?
In the post you quoted, I said that besides creating the thread and the opening post, you also took part in discussing and answering questions by the community in the ANN thread. And that's what you did. I also said that you were either part of the team or connected to the team in some way (but without claiming you are) or you were paid to maintain the ANN thread in addition to the bounty. The point is, you weren't just someone who posted an ANN thread for a project and that's where your job was done. You were actively engaging with the community after that, either because that was part of the deal you struck with the exchange or because you had an interest doing that.   

And you confirmed all that by saying:

Yes I got paid for posting that thread...
I am not and was not related to decoun except that I managed their bounty campaign.

[Mikadodu13]

anyway, the people responsible are the creators of decoin who now take care of the muskotier project, of which decoin has been a partner since the end of 2021.. (https://www.muskotiers.com/)
Shay Perry is aware that I opened a scam report on Bitcointalk, he doesn't seem to care too much.
in short, the money is lost, I just hope that this message will be read by many people and who will pay attention to this scammer.

[Pmalek]

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I am sorry that you lost your money, and hopefully you will learn something from all of this. I have to agree with what Wapinter said that your coins should never have been left on a centralized exchange in the first place. If you had them in a personal wallet, you wouldn't have to worry about what happens to Decoin or any other site. Use this negative experience to learn about self-custody and how it can benefit you. Also, remember that an exchange is not a wallet for long-term crypto storage. It's just a temporary service you use to swap two coins. 

[Mikadodu13]

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I am sorry that you lost your money, and hopefully you will learn something from all of this. I have to agree with what Wapinter said that your coins should never have been left on a centralized exchange in the first place. If you had them in a personal wallet, you wouldn't have to worry about what happens to Decoin or any other site. Use this negative experience to learn about self-custody and how it can benefit you. Also, remember that an exchange is not a wallet for long-term crypto storage. It's just a temporary service you use to swap two coins. 

no, but on decoin I was stuck because the withdrawal fees were abused, so I told myself that I was going to wait for the market to go up to sell and then exit because there have always been problems on this platform.. (j I've been there since 2018, I've seen improbable things on this platform, but hey since I took advantage of the bugs to unlock 3x my initial investments, we'll say who recovers their losses 🤣)
I knew the risk was to lose 2,000, but I had already withdrawn 10,000 with 3,000 invested, I am a good player and I accept the end of the game.
ps / I have investments from everywhere is not only on decoin, is fortunately..