Losing $350,000 because of a friend, what would you do?

[cabron]

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

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Update because the discussion continues to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5419774.msg61393679#msg61393679

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[Jemzx00]

This kind of scene is unlikely to happen like someone going all in on just one number. Also, if this happened in real life, I think he (Kevin Hart) will still win the $350,000 as he is not the one who moved those chips or bet and why would the betting be closed after the spin, wouldn't it have been closed when the wheel is already spinning?

[Oshosondy]

I wanted to say why this thread before, but that video convinced me, though it is just a movie.

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

It is gambling, it can happen real life, but the chance that it would happen is very slim. But we should always advice that betting big comes with big risks.

I would feel like killing the friend, but I do not have option than to forget about it. I will also think he has good mind for me as he did not want me to risk big in a way it can affect me.

This also depends on how rich someone is. If that 10k is just a chicken change to the bettor and having millions of dollars in account and wealthy, he will not think much about it, but in cases that the person is just looking for luck and in a way the money will change his life completely for good, he will feel like killing his friend.

[NeuroticFish]

I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

1. This is not losing 350k, it's.. not winning 350k.
2. This cannot happen because afaik nobody is allowed to touch your chips, even if that one is with you/your friend. An I wrong?

Let's not confuse movies with reality.

[Hispo]

I would be mad and probably depressed for one month and I would not talk to that friend for a while, until I feel better. However, it is unlikely this would ever happen in real life.

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1. This is not losing 350k, it's.. not winning 350k.
2. This cannot happen because afaik nobody is allowed to touch your chips, even if that one is with you/your friend. An I wrong?

Let's not confuse movies with reality.

While you are right and it is not about losing money but rather "not winning", that would not stop people to get mad or depressed at the fact of the missed opportunity.
It is similar to the situation of those who sold their Bitcoins when they were worth 1000$ and regretted doing it later, because they could have been gotten set for life instead.

By the way, I just searched about roulette etiquette on internet and you are right, no one should touch other's chips, also people is supposed to avoid putting drinks over the felt, etc.

[YOSHIE]

What would you do?

I choose friends and I accept the fact, at the same time I choose a safe round of roulette, maybe that's better for me, than taking a high risk $350,000, maybe i don't do anything but accept that's my sustenance for today in roulette betting.

But let's say it did

What if the opposite 'does not' happen, illusion in gambling is one of the factors of losing, high risk gambling, today you get $ 10k that's the limit of your ability, $ 350,000 could boomerang for you, for that accept the victory, will not blame each other, your friend had hockey that day, not you.

[jackg]

2. This cannot happen because afaik nobody is allowed to touch your chips,

Isn't that the point? What are you going to do? Prosecute them, leave them to get thrown out and stay on, or just what most would do and do nothing?

If it's a shared pool of funds he was probably right to move them onto a less risky bet though.

I think there's a certain amount of spins the ball can  do before you have to leave your chips where they are too (set specific to each table and there's probably a few that might not allow you to change at all once the ball starts rolling - that table seemed quite fast).

[Jemzx00]

It is gambling, it can happen real life, but the chance that it would happen is very slim. But we should always advice that betting big comes with big risks.

Highly unlikely that this can happen in real life, no one are allowed to move their bets when it has already been placed whether it's the bettor or his friend. The bet can happen if that how rich you are and you just casually bet $10,000 on a single number however in this case, he is not. Also, no one can bet anymore once the wheel is already spinning not when it's about to stop.

If this scenario happens on real life, his friend will be kicked out from the casino or probably the whole bet he made will be forfeited.

2. This cannot happen because afaik nobody is allowed to touch your chips, even if that one is with you/your friend. An I wrong?

You're absolutely correct.

[NeuroticFish]

Isn't that the point? What are you going to do? Prosecute them, leave them to get thrown out and stay on, or just what most would do and do nothing?

I don't have to do anything. Maybe tell the manager to look at the recording.
The dealer should have been not letting anyone touch the chips, so it's all on him.

[crwth]

Usually, when this type of thing happens, you would go with the side of the friend because you wouldn’t want to see them lose a lot or probably a precise amount. I’m just betting because you can do a lot with that kind of money that he bet. It’s Heartbreaking if you see him lose in that bet. It just so happens that he won, and he is furious about it, but if it is the other way around, it will probably be thanking the friend for what he did.

[Beparanf]

This kind of scene is unlikely to happen like someone going all in on just one number. Also, if this happened in real life, I think he (Kevin Hart) will still win the $350,000 as he is not the one who moved those chips or bet and why would the betting be closed after the spin, wouldn't it have been closed when the wheel is already spinning?

In this case, Kevin Hart initiate that he is done betting after placing all his chips on black 15 that is why the dealer spin the roulette already since he is the only one playing but since the dealer sense that there is a conflict on the bettor side. He later on announced the no more bet line to avoid further changing of bets and to proceed on the game. The chips place on the table is the legitimate bet even though the original didn't move it and also the one who moves it is his companion and not a stranger.

[Slow death]

I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

1. This is not losing 350k, it's.. not winning 350k.
2. This cannot happen because afaik nobody is allowed to touch your chips, even if that one is with you/your friend. An I wrong?

Let's not confuse movies with reality.

OP knows this is unlikely to happen in the real world, you can see here where he says it:

I know this is likely not to happen in real life.

Well, assuming that happened, I would be very angry with my friend and I would also start to be suspicious of him if he didn't do it on purpose to harm me or if he did it as an accident and if I took him to the casino again I would definitely tell him for him to go play at another casino table and I would be at my casino table, that way I would prevent the same thing from happening again.

[electronicash]

coming up with a number like the age where he lose my virginity at 15 is something worth doing, i guess nothing is wrong in trying it on roulette or dice.  

i kept replaying it and no matter how serious should i be on what to do, is just not working. i'd just do what kevin did, just hysterical about $350.000.

[gantez]

It just so happens that he won, and he is furious about it, but if it is the other way around, it will probably be thanking the friend for what he did.

If it didn't happen that he won this can go as far as causing some problem for the both pals when the bettor will think the friend should think he would be crazy betting with that huge amount and couldn't change the bet. He may say he was high while doing the betting that he should know. What I'm saying is just that he is angry because it happen to be a win but losing he could have realized what help got from the friend.

[serjent05]

Assuming that thing happened, I will be disappointed, maybe I'll just shrug my shoulder and let it go.  It is not worth harming a friend because of an intentional mistake.  Besides just think of the case if that move of our friend gives us a win.  So I decided to let it go and learn my lesson from that incident ... "never bring a friend when you are gambling". LOL.

Anyway, I think a friend won't dare to touch our bet in real life.  If ever, they have any other idea, they will suggest it and it is up to us whether to accept it or not.

[goldkingcoiner]

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

Well as frustrating as it sounds, thats not losing $350 000 USD. Thats missing out on the opportunity on winning 350k. Which is nowhere as bad as losing 350k, if you were to ask me. Also as much as I enjoy Kevin Harts comedy, I would not quote him on his realism. Obviously this is a very unrealistic scenario because as some posters have already mentioned, nobody can take your chips. They do not allow that. And the bet was already locked in as soon as the wheel started spinning (although it may have been locked in earlier but I am not familiar with the technicalities).

Obviously they make movie gambling unrealistic to make it seem more attractive and/or exciting to the viewer.

[Captain Corporate]

I think that wouldn't be allowed as far as I know. I mean the reality is that you wouldn't be allowed to touch it when it's still going on, it's too late to retract the bet, also it would be not allowed to let someone else other than the person who wagered to touch it either. It just doesn't feel like something that would be real, it's just a movie scene. If you wager, you wager, and end of the story.

However, if any of my friends try to persuade me away from gambling then I will always thank them, gambling is a risky business and anyone who tries to stop someone else from gambling their money away is doing something good in their heart, with the good result or bad result doesn't matter the intention was good and that's what matters.

[uneng]

Hahaha!

I would feel mad over my friend, just like the actor in the movie. But that is not something that is going to happen for real. Let's say you placed a bet on a casino and your friend attempted to remove or change it. The croupier wouldn't allow him to do this, because he would be interfering in someone's else bets, what isn't allowed. Moreover, we would notice if someone touched our tokens in a casino table. Anyway, the scene was nicely built and was really funny. It's interesting to imagine absurd situations like that happening in reality.

[ethereumhunter]

I will also definitely punch him in the face until he bleeds because he's been blocking me from winning so much money. But his intentions were good not to let me use so much money to try my luck. Well, it's nice to see so many comrades trying to look after me and maybe I shouldn't be mad at him. I've also got to win some money to celebrate with my friends, even though it's a glass of beer

Maybe it also happens in real life and some people have experienced it. They are very lucky to have friends who are very caring and try to constantly remind them not to place bets and with too much money.

[Lanatsa]

I will also definitely punch him in the face until he bleeds because he's been blocking me from winning so much money. But his intentions were good not to let me use so much money to try my luck. Well, it's nice to see so many comrades trying to look after me and maybe I shouldn't be mad at him. I've also got to win some money to celebrate with my friends, even though it's a glass of beer

Maybe it also happens in real life and some people have experienced it. They are very lucky to have friends who are very caring and try to constantly remind them not to place bets and with too much money.

You cant really say or make out conclusions on what you should gonna do on the time of that kind of intervention which it can ha potentially make you 350k dollars which is something that amount you cant

able to earn on your lifetime which it cant really be that avoided for you not to punch him on the face for such intervention which its none of his business on how you would make a bet.

Yes, its good to know and gives a good feeling that someone do really cares for you on having that safer bet.But the main question is, on that how you
you would consider a safe bet?