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November 08, 2022, 08:53:18 AM
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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.
Nothing because it's not something that can be fixed or repeated if it really happened in my life, maybe I will be a little disappointed that it doesn't win big scores, but what if the situation is just the opposite, it turns out that the friend saved us from losing money.

Funny movie clip and from this trailer it can be seen that this can only happen if you play at a land base casino, whereas if you play at an online casino it means you are doing it with your friends and there must be something where you leave your PC or Laptop so your friends can change the bet.
But the question is, does anyone gambling in online casino together with friends?, because surely many play alone at home without inviting friends or closest people

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November 08, 2022, 08:56:15 AM
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We never know if we have a chance to make 350k dollars and that's what we try but apparently, our friends always warn us not to bet more than we can. They are good friends who always remind us not to gamble with a lot of money. And even if we didn't win a lot of money, at least we did and I think that's enough for us to be able to hold back the anger to punch him in the face because it could later result in a fight between us and the end, we will lose good friends.
One of the rules of having fun while gambling is to use low amount of money, $10000 is too much, using just very tiny amount of money is the best. I too do not see anything done wrong at all. In reality, he will likely lose that money, if the money is lost, it will result to regret. I see a friend like that to be a good friend, I can never fight with him. But if I actually nwọn that money, it will really be a pain in the ass for me.

But the question is, does anyone gambling in online casino together with friends?, because surely many play alone at home without inviting friends or closest people
That is not an online casino but a physical casino, people gamble with friends inside physical casinos very well. I gamble with my friends at my house if they come greet me, at there house also using online casinos.

But likely a bet placed on online casinos can not be reversed without any consequences like money deduction in a way his friend may not have changed the money from big to small amount, not even possible when the bet is going on.

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November 08, 2022, 09:22:36 AM
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Funny to discuss this situation, when this is just a movie and such situation probably would never happen in real life. First - is it even allowed for other person to take or touch other gamblers money? Second - when Kevin Hart placed a bet and the dealer span that ball, the bet is already made and can not be undone. Even if Kevins Hart friend took all the chips and leave only one, technically the bet is already done. Third - when you make such a bet, why close eyes and not follow the situation around? Kevin could only blame himself for being such irresponsible with money.

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November 08, 2022, 09:40:45 AM
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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

I believe that nobody is supposed to touch your chips and change your bets on your behalf. If such thing happens, the bet should be revoked.
Anyway, If I would have lost (or failed to win) a big amount because of a friend I would be really pissed, but on the other hand, you never know when luck comes and when it goes. I don't play roulette. It's not my favorite gambling game. Betting 10K on one number in a game of roulette is something only a rich gambling addict would do. Grin

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November 08, 2022, 09:40:55 AM
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Funny to discuss this situation, when this is just a movie and such situation probably would never happen in real life. First - is it even allowed for other person to take or touch other gamblers money? Second - when Kevin Hart placed a bet and the dealer span that ball, the bet is already made and can not be undone. Even if Kevins Hart friend took all the chips and leave only one, technically the bet is already done. Third - when you make such a bet, why close eyes and not follow the situation around? Kevin could only blame himself for being such irresponsible with money.

I absolutely agree with you. There are some very serious inconsistencies in this movie that violate the rules of the game. It seems to me that if it were real, the croupier would have stopped the game.

No matter how many times I have tried to play roulette, not once has the number I bet come up, so I only bet on red or black.

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November 08, 2022, 09:56:17 AM
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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?
First, I'm glad that it did not happen in real life, if it did, it would cause a lot of psychological trauma to both parties involved (player and friend). However, if I was the one, it would take time before I get over it, but this should still not be a basis for severing a friendship. Money will go, but people will remain, especially if he is a long-time friend that is so dependable.

It would be easy for me to let go because it's not the situation where I already have the money and he made me lose it. It's just the situation of making me miss it.

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November 08, 2022, 02:20:10 PM
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First, I'm glad that it did not happen in real life, if it did, it would cause a lot of psychological trauma to both parties involved (player and friend). However, if I was the one, it would take time before I get over it, but this should still not be a basis for severing a friendship. Money will go, but people will remain, especially if he is a long-time friend that is so dependable.

It would be easy for me to let go because it's not the situation where I already have the money and he made me lose it. It's just the situation of making me miss it.
The title of this topic is very interesting, in fact I would blame him if it happened with real money. All decisions are in his hands. So blaming that person is not a good solution. If he had done that then remember the blame lies with him. Why? Since he is the one who does, open the adviser who carries out the action.
Unless a friend he changes without asking permission. Then he deserves to hold him accountable. So whatever it is do as he sees fit, so whatever risks are going to happen he'll accept it because everything he does comes from within him.
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November 08, 2022, 02:31:39 PM
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Well, before watching the video I already knew that this could not be a real situation. I don't know what it will be like in Las Vegas or wherever the movie takes place, but I doubt very much that a friend would have the posture to legally take my money and put it aside. Depending on how much of a friend he was, you could still sue him for the unearned amount (if it was a close friend, I really wouldn't do that).

But well, it is clear that this is an imaginary situation, which could happen, yes, but it is extremely unlikely.

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November 08, 2022, 02:39:36 PM
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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

WTF you did man? Will be the words coming out of my mouth but yeah that's gambling and you can't blame anyone. But this example remind us something if we are betting then we need to make the final decision so we can't blame anyone or have to praise anyone else in case of losing or winning respectively.

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November 08, 2022, 03:09:35 PM
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Really hard to imagine such a thing happening in reality. Betting 10k USD on a single number is a bit insane, if one of my friends would try to do such a thing I would try to stop him. The risk is way too big and who knows if he is thinking clearly. When a friend would tell me about his plan, or I see him with large sums of money walking towards the roulette table I would say anything to convince him to be cautious with his money. But once the money is in the table I don't think I would Touch it and move it to a different bet. Is that even allowed? Like if I was in that position and placed my bet, can't I just say I didn't change the bet and I want my winnings? How does the dealer know if my friend is allowed to place a different bet for me or not? In the end the casino could ask the 10k from my friend, but would have to pay me 350,000 USD. With these kinds of sums of money friendship stops. If the money was lost I would feel bad every time I see my friend, how do you come back from it?
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November 08, 2022, 03:26:34 PM
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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?
It will become one of those near win situation that we will talk about for a while as friends. I will not be angry with my friend because his action has only shows that he wanted what was safe for me, perhaps he played it too safe this time, or the situation was not a situation were I required him to play it safe for me. I also have not lost any money (the $350,000 I would have won) because I never had it, I rather did not win what I was supposed to win, but an amount lesser.

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November 08, 2022, 03:34:55 PM
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Such an incident would never happen, to be honest if it happened, I would be upset and I will always remember it for a joke. Being in that guy's position maybe I'll laugh, let's say didn't win that much money because of a friend's fault he feel definitely embarrassed and uncomfortable to me, rather than we are far from friend better more we are closer together. Although $350K is not a small amount of money. Cheesy

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November 08, 2022, 03:52:59 PM
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Such an incident would never happen, to be honest if it happened, I would be upset and I will always remember it for a joke. Being in that guy's position maybe I'll laugh, let's say didn't win that much money because of a friend's fault he feel definitely embarrassed and uncomfortable to me, rather than we are far from friend better more we are closer together. Although $350K is not a small amount of money. Cheesy
yes because this is just a joke thread, so it wouldn't be possible in the real world, even though it happened too I don't think there's any need to blame friends for their carelessness or mistakes, so just enjoy life without having to think about serious problems because of losing $350k only a mistake I think maybe we can understand even though the mistake will continue to be carried away by dreams  Grin

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November 08, 2022, 05:15:26 PM
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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

Luckily that doesn't happen in the real world. imagine if that happens, the money that should be won is not a small amount of money. even if that happened, apart from failing to get that win, they were faced with another gamble that put the relationship between their friendship at stake. and for sure, there will be chaos in the casino which in the end they will be expelled by security.

However, in land-based casinos, as far as I'm concerned. if the roulette game has been played, then the coins that were originally bet on one of the numbers that have been selected "in this case, number 15 black" cannot be taken or transferred to another option, as well as roulette games at online casinos.

So, yes, this only happens in a movie.

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November 08, 2022, 08:30:21 PM
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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.
Ah, so it's only fictional? I really thought that it was real but I think the same scenario can happen for real especially if you are a kind of friend which is scared. There's always one friend who are like that where they will discourage their other friends to do risky things.

It can be regretful at first thought but if we think again, it can also be beneficial because what if the bet didn't turned out well? Our friend should thank us for this because we save them. For now, what important is that the bet still ended up with a win and it is better than nothing. Blaming should be stopped now as it's not beneficial and will only end up for a broken relationship.
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November 08, 2022, 08:40:31 PM
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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

If I were that person, then I would have raged and probably overthink about it. I would also daydream about the things that I could have probably bought with that money but at the end of the day, everything is already decided. It is also impossible to claim and demand $350,000 from your friend; but I would most likely cut-off my connection with him if that were the case.

Remember that though the intention of my friend is good, it does not change the fact that he lacked the authority to change my decision. Regardless of either I win or lose, the risk is borne by myself and not my friend.
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November 08, 2022, 08:53:03 PM
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Such an incident would never happen, to be honest if it happened, I would be upset and I will always remember it for a joke. Being in that guy's position maybe I'll laugh, let's say didn't win that much money because of a friend's fault he feel definitely embarrassed and uncomfortable to me, rather than we are far from friend better more we are closer together. Although $350K is not a small amount of money. Cheesy
yes because this is just a joke thread, so it wouldn't be possible in the real world, even though it happened too I don't think there's any need to blame friends for their carelessness or mistakes, so just enjoy life without having to think about serious problems because of losing $350k only a mistake I think maybe we can understand even though the mistake will continue to be carried away by dreams  Grin

At first glance of the title thread, I thought, it is indeed actual situation.
However, if it will happen in reality, it will be like one in a million chance that it will happen.
But if you are in that situation, you need to look at the bigger picture.
If he is indeed your true friend, it is only the money that you will lose in this game, though a huge one.
But your friendship will still remain in a lifetime. He maybe made a mistake at the moment, but it should not dictate the end of relationship to him.
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November 08, 2022, 09:22:24 PM
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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

WTF you did man? Will be the words coming out of my mouth but yeah that's gambling and you can't blame anyone. But this example remind us something if we are betting then we need to make the final decision so we can't blame anyone or have to praise anyone else in case of losing or winning respectively.
It does totally depend on you whether you do make yourself get influenced by others suggestions and recommendations but since he's your best friend then you would really be having those second thoughts which you might considering on following but its true that if things turns out to be negative then you do have someone to be blamed unless if you do bet on your own then you could simply
move on or you would just be blaming yourself but it is better rather than pointing finger on others and the worst where relationship with someone could really be also at risk.
This is why it would be much preferable that you do bet on your own and dont get been influenced.

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November 08, 2022, 09:37:14 PM
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It can be regretful at first thought but if we think again, it can also be beneficial because what if the bet didn't turned out well? Our friend should thank us for this because we save them. For now, what important is that the bet still ended up with a win and it is better than nothing. Blaming should be stopped now as it's not beneficial and will only end up for a broken relationship.
You are right, it's all just luck but if we change his condition then his friend has saved him from gambling losses, so there is nothing to blame because in gambling even though we feel regret but actually you are not lucky at that time. If it's your friend then you don't have to blame him because everything about money can still be found from other jobs but repairing friendship will be very difficult if we have damaged it because only friends will help when we are in the worst condition.
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November 08, 2022, 09:53:24 PM
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Ah, so it's only fictional? I really thought that it was real but I think the same scenario can happen for real especially if you are a kind of friend which is scared. There's always one friend who are like that where they will discourage their other friends to do risky things.

Those people defy the rules of roulette because that's for comedy purposes.

In most cases, the chosen numbers are locked once the spin is now in motion. Even if there's a forced attempt to move those chips, either just honors the first pick or the bet of that specific gambler on that round will be totally voided.

Maybe we can discuss another gambling-movie-related scene that can somehow happen in actual for real.

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