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[len01]

if you look at the many cases gamblers will usually be asked to complete KYC if they are caught cheating as happened many novice accounts on this forum who complained that their accounts and money were frozen because they did not complete their KYC, usually cases like that I encountered, after all still there are big casinos that without the need for KYC can withdraw money without any problems. actually casinos that use this KYC system also not only prevent money laundering but also prevent fraud from fraudulent gamblers

actually related to KYC which is enforced in casinos there are good and many benefits. but sometimes anonymous gamblers don't want to do the KYC.
it's true what you say if a casino asks its customers for KYC, it means the casino suspects suspicious activity such as money laundering or bonus abuse etc. so that the casino has full rights to ask KYC to its customers who feel there is unusual activity.

and basically, if the casino is licensed but not KYC required, it will eventually ask its customers for KYC when there is a problem or a large withdrawal. so for me when I want to bet at a licensed casino, I will do KYC earlier to avoid if there is a problem I won't be asked for KYC again.

yes, so far I haven't done KYC at several casinos and I can withdraw money there with no problems, either because I'm just a small gambler or I really play honestly so I'm not asked to complete KYC, but even though one day I will be asked for KYC I will give it but only if the casino is trusted.

the easy thing is to play at a licensed casino of course all players must obey the rules except decentralized casinos maybe free without KYC and I think every casino always writes on their website, if they are anonymous players they should stay away from licensed casinos.

I'm sure if you bet at a licensed casino and have rules for KYC but right now you haven't been asked to fill out KYC, when you get a big win, you will immediately be asked to fill out KYC so you can withdraw all your big wins.

but to be honest, when I want to bet in one of the popular and licensed casinos like Stake.com, I will prefer KYC earlier.
because if the casino is licensed and has a good reputation, there is no doubt about its safety. and on the other hand KYC earlier at a licensed popular casino will be more practical if getting a big win will not be required KYC at the end and it will be more complicated later.

[Mr.right85]

I'm sure if you bet at a licensed casino and have rules for KYC but right now you haven't been asked to fill out KYC, when you get a big win, you will immediately be asked to fill out KYC so you can withdraw all your big wins.

It always seems sketchy when your asked to go through KYC after a big win, I don't like the practices as well but, playing on the casino or sportsbook with hopes for big wins already means, you deal them some level of trust not just to leave up to the end of there bargain but, for them to be able to protect your identity as well.
Hence, it shouldn't be too difficult to oblige when required. You could see it for a final verification before withdrawal to ensure your wins aren't been hacked by an impostor.

but to be honest, when I want to bet in one of the popular and licensed casinos like Stake.com, I will prefer KYC earlier.
because if the casino is licensed and has a good reputation, there is no doubt about its safety. and on the other hand KYC earlier at a licensed popular casino will be more practical if getting a big win will not be required KYC at the end and it will be more complicated later.

It's a "Know Your Customer". Sometimes, you just want to know whom your dealing with and that's okay, don't you think!

[Silberman]

Every casino site has their rules and regulations written about everything like withdrawal limit without Kyc, deposit limit, bet limit, winning limit etc. And it is mandatory for every casino site that if one wants to gamble with big amount then he must complete KYC there. Because all the licensed casino sites always keep a small limit for their customers without kyc because if high limit is given without kyc, the criminal activities like money laundering will increase a lot.

In licensed casinos, all the rules are written in advance in the casino terms of use and other official casino documents, and when starting to play at the casino, all players know these rules in advance to follow them.

And that is the problem, when a gambler opens an account at a casino they never read the terms of service, they just want to gamble immediately and they are in a hurry to try the games offered there, and then when they are requested to go through KYC they complain about it and they claim that it is unfair for them to go through that process, but since they accepted those terms then they have no other option but to submit their documents if they do not want to lose the money they currently have at the casino.

[ethereumhunter]

I'm sure if you bet at a licensed casino and have rules for KYC but right now you haven't been asked to fill out KYC, when you get a big win, you will immediately be asked to fill out KYC so you can withdraw all your big wins.

It always seems sketchy when your asked to go through KYC after a big win, I don't like the practices as well but, playing on the casino or sportsbook with hopes for big wins already means, you deal them some level of trust not just to leave up to the end of there bargain but, for them to be able to protect your identity as well.
Hence, it shouldn't be too difficult to oblige when required. You could see it for a final verification before withdrawal to ensure your wins aren't been hacked by an impostor.

But that's how it is because the government also supervises the licensed casinos so they have to follow the regulations from the government. If your winnings aren't as big as everyone else's or under $100, the casino will let you withdraw the winnings. So get ready to do KYC. The casino may ask you to do KYC if you get a big win.

But I think if the casino is reputable and we always use it, it means we already believe that the casino can provide security for the data we submit to them so we can do KYC safely. And if you really don't like those ways, maybe you can move on to another casino that doesn't ask you to do KYC. But everything will have a risk behind it so we should understand the risks and be able to choose what is good for us.

[Kaiba_Defi]

But that's how it is because the government also supervises the licensed casinos so they have to follow the regulations from the government. If your winnings aren't as big as everyone else's or under $100, the casino will let you withdraw the winnings. So get ready to do KYC. The casino may ask you to do KYC if you get a big win.

But I think if the casino is reputable and we always use it, it means we already believe that the casino can provide security for the data we submit to them so we can do KYC safely. And if you really don't like those ways, maybe you can move on to another casino that doesn't ask you to do KYC. But everything will have a risk behind it so we should understand the risks and be able to choose what is good for us.

Any casino needs customers, so casinos are interested in being as loyal to their customers as possible in order to keep them. The passage of KYC is regulated by law, while casinos must ensure that there is no fraud during the passage of KYC and all user data is stored in a safe place.

[ethereumhunter]

But that's how it is because the government also supervises the licensed casinos so they have to follow the regulations from the government. If your winnings aren't as big as everyone else's or under $100, the casino will let you withdraw the winnings. So get ready to do KYC. The casino may ask you to do KYC if you get a big win.

But I think if the casino is reputable and we always use it, it means we already believe that the casino can provide security for the data we submit to them so we can do KYC safely. And if you really don't like those ways, maybe you can move on to another casino that doesn't ask you to do KYC. But everything will have a risk behind it so we should understand the risks and be able to choose what is good for us.

Any casino needs customers, so casinos are interested in being as loyal to their customers as possible in order to keep them. The passage of KYC is regulated by law, while casinos must ensure that there is no fraud during the passage of KYC and all user data is stored in a safe place.

That's why casinos sometimes ask for KYC randomly to know that their customers are not doing things prohibited in their casino. And yes, casinos need customers but they also have to follow the rules set by the regulators to apply those to their customers. And we are still lucky because not all customers are asked to do KYC and only customers who win a lot of money can be asked to do KYC. Actually it depends on how we play at the casino and as long as we can play gambling with the money we can afford and don't cross the line, we will be safe playing there.

[slapper]

But that's how it is because the government also supervises the licensed casinos so they have to follow the regulations from the government. If your winnings aren't as big as everyone else's or under $100, the casino will let you withdraw the winnings. So get ready to do KYC. The casino may ask you to do KYC if you get a big win.

But I think if the casino is reputable and we always use it, it means we already believe that the casino can provide security for the data we submit to them so we can do KYC safely. And if you really don't like those ways, maybe you can move on to another casino that doesn't ask you to do KYC. But everything will have a risk behind it so we should understand the risks and be able to choose what is good for us.

Any casino needs customers, so casinos are interested in being as loyal to their customers as possible in order to keep them. The passage of KYC is regulated by law, while casinos must ensure that there is no fraud during the passage of KYC and all user data is stored in a safe place.

That's why casinos sometimes ask for KYC randomly to know that their customers are not doing things prohibited in their casino. And yes, casinos need customers but they also have to follow the rules set by the regulators to apply those to their customers. And we are still lucky because not all customers are asked to do KYC and only customers who win a lot of money can be asked to do KYC. Actually it depends on how we play at the casino and as long as we can play gambling with the money we can afford and don't cross the line, we will be safe playing there.

It fascinates me how casinos manage to function within such a dense web of rules and guidelines imposed by authorities. Making a profit is important, but so is preventing customers from breaking the law. Casinos use a variety of measures, including random Know Your Customer checks, to guarantee they are following the rules. Furthermore, the fact that only the biggest winners are subject to Know Your Customer checks is evidence of the system's fairness because it limits the opportunity for abuse of privilege. Responsible gambling, within one's financial means, is the best guarantee of a good time at the casino.

[Dragonbite]

It fascinates me how casinos manage to function within such a dense web of rules and guidelines imposed by authorities. Making a profit is important, but so is preventing customers from breaking the law. Casinos use a variety of measures, including random Know Your Customer checks, to guarantee they are following the rules. Furthermore, the fact that only the biggest winners are subject to Know Your Customer checks is evidence of the system's fairness because it limits the opportunity for abuse of privilege. Responsible gambling, within one's financial means, is the best guarantee of a good time at the casino.

Almost all licensed casinos operate under the same rules. Therefore, users have no choice. Non-licensed casinos often cheat their users, so it is not recommended to use them.

[ethereumhunter]

But that's how it is because the government also supervises the licensed casinos so they have to follow the regulations from the government. If your winnings aren't as big as everyone else's or under $100, the casino will let you withdraw the winnings. So get ready to do KYC. The casino may ask you to do KYC if you get a big win.

But I think if the casino is reputable and we always use it, it means we already believe that the casino can provide security for the data we submit to them so we can do KYC safely. And if you really don't like those ways, maybe you can move on to another casino that doesn't ask you to do KYC. But everything will have a risk behind it so we should understand the risks and be able to choose what is good for us.

Any casino needs customers, so casinos are interested in being as loyal to their customers as possible in order to keep them. The passage of KYC is regulated by law, while casinos must ensure that there is no fraud during the passage of KYC and all user data is stored in a safe place.

That's why casinos sometimes ask for KYC randomly to know that their customers are not doing things prohibited in their casino. And yes, casinos need customers but they also have to follow the rules set by the regulators to apply those to their customers. And we are still lucky because not all customers are asked to do KYC and only customers who win a lot of money can be asked to do KYC. Actually it depends on how we play at the casino and as long as we can play gambling with the money we can afford and don't cross the line, we will be safe playing there.

It fascinates me how casinos manage to function within such a dense web of rules and guidelines imposed by authorities. Making a profit is important, but so is preventing customers from breaking the law. Casinos use a variety of measures, including random Know Your Customer checks, to guarantee they are following the rules. Furthermore, the fact that only the biggest winners are subject to Know Your Customer checks is evidence of the system's fairness because it limits the opportunity for abuse of privilege. Responsible gambling, within one's financial means, is the best guarantee of a good time at the casino.

And when casinos try to ensure that no one in their place of business violates the rules, it will provide evidence to the government or regulatory authorities that their casino is trying to comply with regulations. And gamblers must also realize that in playing gambling, they must really use it as entertainment and not break the rules. They will be safe playing gambling even though they will be asked to do KYC one day. But since they have not been proven to have committed anything wrong while playing gambling and have not done anything illegal, they will not be subject to any punishment from the casino. And the casinos will still allow them to use more money because the casinos already trust them.

[Wiwo]

Any casino needs customers, so casinos are interested in being as loyal to their customers as possible to keep them. The passage of KYC is regulated by law, while casinos must ensure that there is no fraud during the passage of KYC and all user data is stored in a safe place.

Let me ask this question for clarity's sake, when you say casinos should avoid fraud in the KYC process what do you mean?

-I think the issue of fraud during KYC is related to the player and not the casino itself, and if to talking of hacking that results in identity theft from the casino KYC data base, that can only be tackled by the casino having a strong security to ensure avoidance of hack.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Any casino needs customers, so casinos are interested in being as loyal to their customers as possible to keep them. The passage of KYC is regulated by law, while casinos must ensure that there is no fraud during the passage of KYC and all user data is stored in a safe place.

Let me ask this question for clarity's sake, when you say casinos should avoid fraud in the KYC process what do you mean?

-I think the issue of fraud during KYC is related to the player and not the casino itself, and if to talking of hacking that results in identity theft from the casino KYC data base, that can only be tackled by the casino having a strong security to ensure avoidance of hack.

I must beg to differ, fraud in KYC is related both to the player and the Casino, I have seen instances where casinos request KYC documents that is on tht extreme, that is documents they know the player may likely no have.
And they request for such documents in hopes that the player may not be able to provide it so that they(the casino) would a to them, a good reason to keep the players winning(s) to themselves, most especially, if the won amount is quite substantial.
And this kind of fraud is common with really small casinos, or casinos that are just starting up.

[Plaguedeath]

Almost all licensed casinos operate under the same rules. Therefore, users have no choice. Non-licensed casinos often cheat their users, so it is not recommended to use them.

Then what? if you're not comfortable to gamble on crypto casino either it's licensed or non licensed, then just don't play. You have a choice to play on fiat based casino where you need to link your bank account and submit your KYC on the site, if you think online fiat casino still will scam you. Then you need to play of land based casino. Do you think all land based casino is legit? how do you verify if the slot machine is legit?

[Strongkored]

Almost all licensed casinos operate under the same rules. Therefore, users have no choice. Non-licensed casinos often cheat their users, so it is not recommended to use them.

Then what? if you're not comfortable to gamble on crypto casino either it's licensed or non licensed, then just don't play. You have a choice to play on fiat based casino where you need to link your bank account and submit your KYC on the site, if you think online fiat casino still will scam you. Then you need to play of land based casino. Do you think all land based casino is legit? how do you verify if the slot machine is legit?

He thinks the license is everything, even though talking about the scam must be examined in advance whether the player is really scammed or it happened because the player who violated the casino rules so that the player could no longer access his account. Even in this forum there is a non -licensed casino that remains trusted and has been running for long time and is still ongoing and many forum members continue to use it.

[Bertyda]

Almost all licensed casinos operate under the same rules. Therefore, users have no choice. Non-licensed casinos often cheat their users, so it is not recommended to use them.

Then what? if you're not comfortable to gamble on crypto casino either it's licensed or non licensed, then just don't play. You have a choice to play on fiat based casino where you need to link your bank account and submit your KYC on the site, if you think online fiat casino still will scam you. Then you need to play of land based casino. Do you think all land based casino is legit? how do you verify if the slot machine is legit?

He thinks the license is everything, even though talking about the scam must be examined in advance whether the player is really scammed or it happened because the player who violated the casino rules so that the player could no longer access his account. Even in this forum there is a non -licensed casino that remains trusted and has been running for long time and is still ongoing and many forum members continue to use it.

Well, if some players cheat the casino or other players, the casino should punish such players and make sure that there is no cheating on the casino site. Most people come to the casino to play honestly, and not to deceive each other.

[Wiwo]

I must beg to differ, fraud in KYC is related both to the player and the Casino, I have seen instances where casinos request KYC documents that is on tht extreme, that is documents they know the player may likely no have.
And they request for such documents in hopes that the player may not be able to provide it so that they(the casino) would a to them, a good reason to keep the player's winning(s) to themselves, most especially, if the won amount is quite substantial.
And this kind of fraud is common with really small casinos, or casinos that are just starting up.

I quiet agree with you on this, and I made the comment based on the rule of engagement of casino and players agreement and T&C where the KYC is mentioned and what document a player will be asked for are all outlined in the terms and conditions of the casino.

-And if a player differ in opinion and he is not ok with the KYC requirements then he/she can look the other way around, to find a suitable site that will not go extreme on kyc process, I know there are cases, where the casino wants them to become an outright scam was the purposely imposed impossible KYC procedure on players and those cases are popular among scam casinos but no legitimate casino will do anything of such.

[Silberman]

Let me ask this question for clarity's sake, when you say casinos should avoid fraud in the KYC process what do you mean?

-I think the issue of fraud during KYC is related to the player and not the casino itself, and if to talking of hacking that results in identity theft from the casino KYC data base, that can only be tackled by the casino having a strong security to ensure avoidance of hack.

I must beg to differ, fraud in KYC is related both to the player and the Casino, I have seen instances where casinos request KYC documents that is on tht extreme, that is documents they know the player may likely no have.
And they request for such documents in hopes that the player may not be able to provide it so that they(the casino) would a to them, a good reason to keep the players winning(s) to themselves, most especially, if the won amount is quite substantial.
And this kind of fraud is common with really small casinos, or casinos that are just starting up.

This is true, there are some casinos out there which when one of their gamblers obtains a big win they try to find even the smallest detail they can to try to refuse paying the money they owe, and one way to do this is by asking way more than what is needed for a standard identity verification, with the hope the gambler fails to provide the needed documents and then they save themselves a lot of money while still protecting their reputation, as they can later claim it was the gambler the one that failed to pass all their tests and they were justified on their refusal to pay them.

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[Bertyda]

This is true, there are some casinos out there which when one of their gamblers obtains a big win they try to find even the smallest detail they can to try to refuse paying the money they owe, and one way to do this is by asking way more than what is needed for a standard identity verification, with the hope the gambler fails to provide the needed documents and then they save themselves a lot of money while still protecting their reputation, as they can later claim it was the gambler the one that failed to pass all their tests and they were justified on their refusal to pay them.

In such casinos, players simply will not play. All players play at the casino only in the hope of a big win, but if they know that they will not be able to withdraw their winnings anyway, they will not play at this casino. They will go to another casino.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

This is true, there are some casinos out there which when one of their gamblers obtains a big win they try to find even the smallest detail they can to try to refuse paying the money they owe, and one way to do this is by asking way more than what is needed for a standard identity verification, with the hope the gambler fails to provide the needed documents and then they save themselves a lot of money while still protecting their reputation, as they can later claim it was the gambler the one that failed to pass all their tests and they were justified on their refusal to pay them.

In such casinos, players simply will not play. All players play at the casino only in the hope of a big win, but if they know that they will not be able to withdraw their winnings anyway, they will not play at this casino. They will go to another casino.

This is also true, but then, the problem now is, how does the player know beforehand, the casino that wouldn't allow them withdraw their big winning?, this is where looking out for reviews become very important before deciding which casino to play on, but then also, good reviews is not a 100 percent guarantee that a casino would perform such a trick on a gambler, considering the fact that requesting customers to pass kyc verification is something casinos do on an individual level, they can easily decide who to carry out a kyc fraud on, and who not to, depending on how large a customer's winning is.

It takes a casino with much integrity to never do such to any of their customers, no matter how large the customer's winning is.

[maydna]

Well, if some players cheat the casino or other players, the casino should punish such players and make sure that there is no cheating on the casino site. Most people come to the casino to play honestly, and not to deceive each other.

It's easy for the casino to find fraudsters who cheat the casino because the casino can easily check the accounts of all its members and carry out investigations. Even casinos can ask those who perpetrate the scam to do KYC to check the background of the fraudster. After carrying out such checks, the new casino punished the cheating player by blocking his account and not allowing them to return to their premises. And so far, many casinos have been able to prove that there are players who cheat in their casinos. But that doesn't stop the scammers from continuing to try other cheats.