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November 14, 2022, 02:29:27 PM
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I am new to bitcointalk forum. I don't know much about this forum. Meanwhile I am reading the rules of this forum. After that, while checking some posts, I saw a user who posts very well. His merit number is almost equal to activity. After that I noticed that his account was inactive for many days. After that I checked with bpip.org and found that his account was autobanned.
Check it out;
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https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3468810

My question is, if you do something wrong with the account, the account will be auto banned.

Those who know about this must inform me.
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November 14, 2022, 02:51:39 PM
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Going against the forum rules can lead to permaban, especially if someone plagiarized, spamming, or evade ban. We should carefully read, understand and not violate the rules, they are not hard to follow as long as you are posting appropriately.

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November 14, 2022, 02:59:45 PM
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It's normally plagiarism or ban evasion imo that leads to someone being autobanned. They can appeal the ban though too if they think there's no reason they should've been banned (but can only make one topic about it and it's the only topic they're allowed to make after being banned).

Autobans are given out by moderators too so it's sometimes possible to get an answer for why they were banned.
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November 14, 2022, 05:05:57 PM
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The said banned account was likely reported for plagiarism, as can be seen here. He might have been banned due to the plagiarism shown in the prior link, or any other that was reported in a similar manner without being published on the "Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed" thread.

The thing is, if anyone wants to bring information to view on a post, that is originated elsewhere, he should add a reference to it, thus avoiding plagiarism and having people thinking that it was his own set of words when, in fact, it was not.
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November 14, 2022, 05:23:04 PM
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I am new to bitcointalk forum. I don't know much about this forum. Meanwhile I am reading the rules of this forum. After that, while checking some posts, I saw a user who posts very well. His merit number is almost equal to activity. After that I noticed that his account was inactive for many days. After that I checked with bpip.org and found that his account was autobanned.
Check it out;
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My question is, if you do something wrong with the account, the account will be auto banned.

Those who know about this must inform me.

the account was not automatically banned but was banned for receiving reports from trusted members on this forum for violations found on the account. usually it's because of plagiarism, you can see it in these 2 threads;

1] [Report] Ban Evasion [Requesting Admin/mod to check those and ban]

2] Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed



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November 14, 2022, 06:25:48 PM
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Let me leverage on this question and learn please. I have been seeing autoban especially when Lovesmayfamilis reports cheating or plagiarism accounts.

Permanent ban: Means the user is banned permanently and not supposed to return to the forum with another account. Though the user can appeal and get lucky in rare cases.

Temporary Ban: Means the user is banned for some days, weeks, months, years as the case maybe. The user will return to the forum after serving the ban punishment.

Signature Ban: Is allowing the user to use the forum but not using the Signature space.

What is AutoBan and how does it differ from Permanent ban?
Does it work as the name implies? Which means no moderator bans you. Maybe the ban is triggered automatically by the system codes? If no, why is it called Autoban?

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November 14, 2022, 06:38:08 PM
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Going against the forum rules can lead to permaban, especially if someone plagiarized, spamming, or evade ban.

Yes your point is true but I don't see anywhere in the forum rules what causes autobanned.

It's normally plagiarism or ban evasion imo that leads to someone being autobanned. They can appeal the ban though too if they think there's no reason they should've been banned (but can only make one topic about it and it's the only topic they're allowed to make after being banned).

I learned something new from your post. If it happens that there is no reason behind banning then how can we appeal. If I get the answer to this question, then the newbies will benefit a lot. It can be learned.

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Thank you for presenting it so beautifully.
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Last edit: November 14, 2022, 07:13:28 PM by DdmrDdmr
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<…> What is AutoBan and how does it differ from Permanent ban?
Does it work as the name implies? Which means no moderator bans you. Maybe the ban is triggered automatically by the system codes? If no, why is it called Autoban?
As far as I know, AutoBan is a permanent ban. The Modlog displays, amongst other things, banned accounts over the last 30 days. The type of bans listed are "Autoban user" and "Nuke user", both being permanent bans. Nuked also see all their posts deleted, but can only apply (I believe- not sure though) if Activity <30. An account that is Nukable may not be Nuked, but simply Autobanned. Temporary bans are not displayed in the Modlog.

As to why the name Autoban itself, it looks as if it originates in Automatic Ban (likely extended to manual ban), but who knows. I can tell you it is not related to a german highway though …


<...> Now my question is, if he could not reveal the allegations of theft, why was he banned.<...>
Not sure what you mean. In all likelihood, he was banned for plagiarism (after all, he was rightfully reported for it), although there is no public record where we can assert the exact reason.

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Nuked: Permanent banned + all post deleted (account will revert to 0 Activity and 0 posts on its profile).
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November 14, 2022, 07:01:27 PM
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DdmrDdmr buddy you say.

He may be banned for plagiarism as shown in the previous link without publishing a plagiarism complaint (copy/paste).

Now my question is, if he could not reveal the allegations of theft, why was he banned.

 
one more question what is Nuke user?

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November 14, 2022, 07:22:33 PM
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My question is, if you do something wrong with the account, the account will be auto banned.

If there's no rules then there should be no purnishment, the forum here has rules and regulations that help put things into order and cordination, else people can't hesitate on changing the main motive if bitcointalk to another thing else, if you plagiarize, you will get banned or act in a way that's against the normal expectations of the he forum, but to stay safe from this, just take your time in reading the forum's rules and regulations and behave well then you're free of unnecessary fear of getting banned, noted this that behind every ban is a reason that led to the act.



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November 14, 2022, 07:23:32 PM
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one more question what is Nuke user?

It's same as been banned but in this case the whole post the user ever made in the Forum will be deleted making it a Brand New account.

It's mostly done to newbie account.

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November 14, 2022, 07:26:42 PM
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DdmrDdmr buddy you say.

He may be banned for plagiarism as shown in the previous link without publishing a plagiarism complaint (copy/paste).

Now my question is, if he could not reveal the allegations of theft, why was he banned.

I am not sure what you are asking. Can you rephrase your question?
"He" was banned because he violated one or more forum rules. The real reason is known to the moderators.

one more question what is Nuke user?

Nuking a user is the same as banning them. The only difference is that, after a nuke, their posts are deleted as well. This usually only applies to newbie members.

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November 14, 2022, 08:32:26 PM
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My question is, if you do something wrong with the account, the account will be auto banned.

If there's no rules then there should be no purnishment, the forum here has rules and regulations that help put things into order and cordination, else people can't hesitate on changing the main motive if bitcointalk to another thing else, if you plagiarize, you will get banned or act in a way that's against the normal expectations of the he forum, but to stay safe from this, just take your time in reading the forum's rules and regulations and behave well then you're free of unnecessary fear of getting banned, noted this that behind every ban is a reason that led to the act.
From my standpoint, I think OP actually wants to understand the possibility of one getting auto banned even after complying to certain rules and regulations of the forum.
However, as the name sounds, it seems it is more likely human moderation was ignored or warnings ignored that may have been sent, hence the reason for the auto ban of ones account. We usually get message inbox or response for wrong posted threads, out of point posts and other nuisance that can make the moderators of bitcoin dish out warnings before a ban follows. If several of such messages has been sent on more than one occasion without no regards to heed to correction, then the ban follows.

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November 14, 2022, 08:49:25 PM
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My question is, if you do something wrong with the account, the account will be auto banned.
If a user breaks the forum rules, they would get the punishment for the particular offence, which is also at the discretion of the admin or staff.
Some offences lead to a temporary ban, some to deleted posts, and some to a permanent or autoban.

This usually only applies to newbie members.
AFAIK, it can only apply to newbie members who have an activity of below 30 points. This means that a newbie who has a high activity (30+), but not enough merits to rank up to Jr. Member cannot be nuked.

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November 14, 2022, 10:42:27 PM
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I am new to bitcointalk forum. I don't know much about this forum.
I'm not verry sure about your confession, is this your main account or something happened by chance?

Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=561859





Now my question is, if he could not reveal the allegations of theft, why was he banned.
You will get the right answer if the question is clear. I suspect the point of your question is about account being banned due to accusations of changing hands or whatever like this. Is that true?

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November 15, 2022, 02:27:15 AM
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What is AutoBan and how does it differ from Permanent ban?
Does it work as the name implies? Which means no moderator bans you. Maybe the ban is triggered automatically by the system codes? If no, why is it called Autoban?

Here's what theymos says about it:

("Autoban" = lingo indicating a type of ban. They're usually not actually automatic.)

And here is a description of what kinds of bans are present on the forum and how they differ from each other:


There are 2 types of bans.

Autobans. Isn't what it sounds like, it means someone pressed the ban button, but it's automatically carried out, as opposed to be manually entered. Though there is a mod or two running scripts because of the spammers. This results in the message You were banned by a forum moderator, email xxx. Both global mods and admins use this, so it isn't a guarantee it was a moderator, just more likely. I use autoban instead of manual bans for permanent bans because it's faster and more efficient. All bans in the modlog are autobans, and permanent.

Autobans ban the account involved only, you can still log in and do everything normally, just can't post or pm. It also adds units of evil to the IPs used, a new account created using these IPs will need to pay a fee. Units of evil increase with additional bans. Nuking is essentially an autoban+deletion of posts.

Manual bans are only available to admins, and are generally configured the same way as above, though it's possible to increase the scope of the ban to include things like registering from certain emails/providers, ips, subnets, hostnames, etc. Can also add multiple accounts to the same ban. It's also possible to prevent banned users from logging in at all using the banned account, this will prevent them from being able to read the forum and access pm's too though, so I rarely use it. These result in the customized reason for the ban+duration, insubstantial posts or whatever.

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November 15, 2022, 04:26:33 AM
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I am new to bitcointalk forum. I don't know much about this forum.
I'm not verry sure about your confession, is this your main account or something happened by chance?

Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=561859

Sorry buddy it's not my account. And I don't have multiple accounts.

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Autobans ban the account involved only, you can still log in and do everything normally, just can't post or pm.

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According to him everything can be done except posting or pm with Auto banned account, in my opinion, if an account is banned, then it is not possible to do anything else with that account. That account becomes trash.

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Two most common ban reasons are
- Plagiarism
- Ban evasion

Usually the first reason is plagiarism that causes ban on other alt accounts with ban evasion.

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First offence: 7 days
Second offence: 14 days
Third offence: 30 days
Fourth: Permanent ban

Your first ban is your first warning. If you have to be banned for a fourth time it is permanent and you will no longer be allowed to participate on the forum under any accounts. Note: If you are banned on one account then you are not allowed to post under any accounts you own for the duration of your ban. The only exception to this rule is Meta where you can discuss the circumstances of your ban if you wish to do so but anywhere outside of that sub will be considered ban evasion and will get your ban doubled, but it is generally best to just patiently wait out your ban and improve your posts on return and hopefully no further bans will be needed.

Warning: Anyone caught copying other users' posts or plagiarising content from elsewhere on the web will be immediately permabanned. You shouldn't need a warning to know that this isn't acceptable under any circumstances.

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25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]

33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e]

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November 15, 2022, 09:58:56 AM
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Sorry buddy it's not my account. And I don't have multiple accounts.
I don't know if your answer is actually valid and credible but something coincidental like this is always a question mark. I can even assume you're impersonating another user even if you have [space] in your username.

According to him everything can be done except posting or pm with Auto banned account, in my opinion, if an account is banned, then it is not possible to do anything else with that account. That account becomes trash.
Temporary ban or autobann are the same, you cannot post and send PM with banned accounts. But you can log in anytime to your account just to watch.

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November 15, 2022, 12:25:07 PM
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According to him everything can be done except posting or pm with Auto banned account, in my opinion, if an account is banned, then it is not possible to do anything else with that account. That account becomes trash.

Not necessarily.

Here's an example, Satoshi's account has been technically banned from the forum (he can no longer log into it). I doubt any reasonable person would consider his account trash. Besides, even banned accounts can be reinstated.


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