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Question: Who will win?
Tank Davis - 35 (74.5%)
Ryan Garcia - 12 (25.5%)
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March 09, 2023, 02:31:43 PM
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Trashtalking to sell this fight ain't necessary, they both are well knowned and both good in their own craft. Being as good as both of them will automatically attract boxing fans. I mean, who doesn't want to see a good fighters with both undefeated facing each other to determine who's better. Though, it doesn't end with just one match, a trilogy (if necessary) will finally determine who's really the best.

Both cannot avoid it, they have a dislike for each other, and the feeling is mutual for both of them, have you seen their first press conference something is brewing up, both fighters are each other stepping stones to greatness, and its a legacy fight, something we will all look back ten years from now and see this as a heated and great rivalry.
I like both fighters they can deliver the knockout that they want, it all goes up on who gets hits first and hard, no doubt about their punching power but ring generalship will play a major factor.
The ring generalship of Tank is good and that's what carries him in the Romero fight, but Goosen is on Garcia's corner so I'm sure they dwell on his ring generalship for this match.

 
trash talking from both sides makes this fight more popular we all know that trash-talking is part of the marketing strategy because we all know how it's gonna work, people around the world fee thrill if both fighter  trashtalking. And that strategies are very effective nowadays. But we we don't need to forget that the one who throw many words are the one who will win because in the final day They will show what they've got.

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March 09, 2023, 03:15:17 PM
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Trashtalking to sell this fight ain't necessary, they both are well knowned and both good in their own craft. Being as good as both of them will automatically attract boxing fans. I mean, who doesn't want to see a good fighters with both undefeated facing each other to determine who's better. Though, it doesn't end with just one match, a trilogy (if necessary) will finally determine who's really the best.

Both cannot avoid it, they have a dislike for each other, and the feeling is mutual for both of them, have you seen their first press conference something is brewing up, both fighters are each other stepping stones to greatness, and its a legacy fight, something we will all look back ten years from now and see this as a heated and great rivalry.
I like both fighters they can deliver the knockout that they want, it all goes up on who gets hits first and hard, no doubt about their punching power but ring generalship will play a major factor.
The ring generalship of Tank is good and that's what carries him in the Romero fight, but Goosen is on Garcia's corner so I'm sure they dwell on his ring generalship for this match.

 
trash talking from both sides makes this fight more popular we all know that trash-talking is part of the marketing strategy because we all know how it's gonna work, people around the world fee thrill if both fighter  trashtalking. And that strategies are very effective nowadays. But we we don't need to forget that the one who throw many words are the one who will win because in the final day They will show what they've got.

They definitely want to make more noise, which is why the trash-talking will never end. Ryan Garcia talks a lot, but I'm sure he worked hard for this fight. It cannot be denied that this is the biggest fight of his career. There were a lot of doubters for him in this fight, which is why Davis is the heavy favorite to win. However, it doesn't matter to Garcia as he is so confident that he could knock out Davis.

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March 09, 2023, 07:49:32 PM
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The Odds has been out in different gambling platforms. Currently, Ryan Garcia has 3.15 ODDS and Tank Davis has 1.32 ODDS. It's obvious that Ryan Garcia is the underdog in this fight, they are both strong and they are both undefeated but someone will get 1 in their both 0 losses. As a bettor and also a fan of boxing, Tank Davis has the upperhand wherein his K.O. rate is so high and his explosiveness is unreal but we cannot underestimate Ryan Garcia because he became pretty famous because of his speed and courage.

As for where will I put my bet between Ryan and Tank, I still not decided and I still researching for me to have conviction on who will I choose. I'll just make sure that the money that I will put is the money that I can give to the platform where I will not any emotional discomfort even I lose the bet.

Tank has been campaigning in 3 divisions already and became a champion at 130. Although Tank's opponents are mostly cherry-picked and exploited which is normal as he was carefully handled by Mayweather before, Kingry's level of opposition makes no difference. So overall, Tank has the edge when it comes to experience and better opponents.

I am liking of a Tank by KO/TKO. But I won't probably bet since I want these 2 cherry-pickers to fight in a blood bath after years of ignoring the top tiers of their division. And hopefully, the winner will be ready to face the real dogs of their divisions; Shakur, Haney, Loma, Lopez, Taylor, Caterall, Prograis, Matias, etc.

If only Tank was managed by other promotions, he could've won more challenging and worthy opponents that will also give him a much higher income than what he had in his recent fights. I know that Floyd just wanted to give his boxer his own name and helped him to be known but Tank is not 28 years old yet he didn't had the chance to be a regular champion. In this fight, this is his chance to give himself another lift into the limelight to fight the higher dogs which will make him more nearer to undisputed title holder.

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March 09, 2023, 08:06:32 PM
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Trashtalking to sell this fight ain't necessary, they both are well knowned and both good in their own craft. Being as good as both of them will automatically attract boxing fans. I mean, who doesn't want to see a good fighters with both undefeated facing each other to determine who's better. Though, it doesn't end with just one match, a trilogy (if necessary) will finally determine who's really the best.

Both cannot avoid it, they have a dislike for each other, and the feeling is mutual for both of them, have you seen their first press conference something is brewing up, both fighters are each other stepping stones to greatness, and its a legacy fight, something we will all look back ten years from now and see this as a heated and great rivalry.
I like both fighters they can deliver the knockout that they want, it all goes up on who gets hits first and hard, no doubt about their punching power but ring generalship will play a major factor.
The ring generalship of Tank is good and that's what carries him in the Romero fight, but Goosen is on Garcia's corner so I'm sure they dwell on his ring generalship for this match.

 
trash talking from both sides makes this fight more popular we all know that trash-talking is part of the marketing strategy because we all know how it's gonna work, people around the world fee thrill if both fighter  trashtalking. And that strategies are very effective nowadays. But we we don't need to forget that the one who throw many words are the one who will win because in the final day They will show what they've got.

They definitely want to make more noise, which is why the trash-talking will never end. Ryan Garcia talks a lot, but I'm sure he worked hard for this fight. It cannot be denied that this is the biggest fight of his career. There were a lot of doubters for him in this fight, which is why Davis is the heavy favorite to win. However, it doesn't matter to Garcia as he is so confident that he could knock out Davis.

Yes, they need more noise to market the fight even more as they are targeting the Allegiant Stadium. GBP already said that he is looking forward to hold the fight in the said stadium as he believes that this kind of magnitude will needed a much bigger place to cater all the people who wanted to see the fight live and in-person, the only thing left to make it happen is the people to show some signs that a much bigger place is indeed needed in this fight. Currently, GBP are choosing between T-Mobile or Allegiant.

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There were a lot of doubters for him in this fight, which is why Davis is the heavy favorite to win. However, it doesn't matter to Garcia as he is so confident that he could knock out Davis.
I hope Ryan Garcia is really that confident because if it turns out that he is not that ready, he will be heavily criticized by a lot of people for calling Tank Davis to fight him when in-fact he doesn't have what it takes. He needed to prove it and he needed this fight to bring himself in a much higher seed. Forget about the doubters, that is normal because Tank has been on the game first and already proved what he can do.

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March 09, 2023, 09:29:30 PM
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I hope Ryan Garcia is really that confident because if it turns out that he is not that ready, he will be heavily criticized by a lot of people for calling Tank Davis to fight him when in-fact he doesn't have what it takes. He needed to prove it and he needed this fight to bring himself in a much higher seed. Forget about the doubters, that is normal because Tank has been on the game first and already proved what he can do.

Ryan Garcia has been calling out everybody hehe, it's just that only Tank Davis has responded. This fight is an acid test for him and if ever he will be knocked out by Tank Davis then he is a fluke, i mean that he doesn't have what it takes to be in the league with the big boys in this division.

In the press conference yesterday, size advantage was very visible for Ryan in the face-off but he has to walk the talk and hope he could utilize his size to his advantage. Some people were saying that Ryan was visibly scared during their first press conference but i don't think so, i think Ryan was just nervous as this is his first time being on a stage with a legit champion for a very big event soon.

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March 09, 2023, 09:36:17 PM
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I wasn't able to stay up to watch the press conference live because it's like 3:00 AM here when it started, (I just saw Ryan being interviewed alone and then I took a nap).


Their face-off was something you expected because both of them are full of confidence to be the winner in this fight and they cannot stop their trash-talking because this is badly needed to gather as much support as their need for their upcoming fights. though they don't really need that because they are already popular, trash-talking is the most anticipated thing to watch before they step in the ring to fuel their rivalry and excite the fans. they have been calling each other for a fight and now that they finally have the schedule, it will be a total war for these two, and fans from their both respective countries are expectedly the loudest at the stadium.

And the reason why Ryan as just the one person being interviewed in this fight at the supposedly press con time? it's because it was reported that Tank Davis was late for almost 2 hours. Not sure if that is intentional or what or maybe he is trying to play mind games and telling that he is the A-side in this fight.

Nevertheless, Lol, rehydration clause? I know that it's becoming the norm for some fight and this could be the contention that fights fall because it's too much. But Ryan Garcia gave to their demands and probably the ring size too could favor or at least the camp of Davis wanted a bigger or small size.
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March 09, 2023, 09:40:28 PM
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I hope Ryan Garcia is really that confident because if it turns out that he is not that ready, he will be heavily criticized by a lot of people for calling Tank Davis to fight him when in-fact he doesn't have what it takes. He needed to prove it and he needed this fight to bring himself in a much higher seed. Forget about the doubters, that is normal because Tank has been on the game first and already proved what he can do.

Ryan Garcia has been calling out everybody hehe, it's just that only Tank Davis has responded. This fight is an acid test for him and if ever he will be knocked out by Tank Davis then he is a fluke, i mean that he doesn't have what it takes to be in the league with the big boys in this division.

That is so true, and if I remember correctly, he even have called Manny Pacquiao in the past, and put his image in his twitter account and we thought that this fight is going to happen.

In the press conference yesterday, size advantage was very visible for Ryan in the face-off but he has to walk the talk and hope he could utilize his size to his advantage. Some people were saying that Ryan was visibly scared during their first press conference but i don't think so, i think Ryan was just nervous as this is his first time being on a stage with a legit champion for a very big event soon.

In the beginning there is respect between the two, so I don't think Ryan is scared or what. But in the face off we see that they are talking trash. I read that Tank mentions about Canelo and the mental health of Ryan and questions him about that. And so with that, Ryan just responded by doing those chest gestures, maybe telling Tank that he has the bigger heart and that everything is fine with him.

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March 09, 2023, 10:32:20 PM
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I wasn't able to stay up to watch the press conference live because it's like 3:00 AM here when it started, (I just saw Ryan being interviewed alone and then I took a nap).


Their face-off was something you expected because both of them are full of confidence to be the winner in this fight and they cannot stop their trash-talking because this is badly needed to gather as much support as their need for their upcoming fights. though they don't really need that because they are already popular, trash-talking is the most anticipated thing to watch before they step in the ring to fuel their rivalry and excite the fans. they have been calling each other for a fight and now that they finally have the schedule, it will be a total war for these two, and fans from their both respective countries are expectedly the loudest at the stadium.

And the reason why Ryan as just the one person being interviewed in this fight at the supposedly press con time? it's because it was reported that Tank Davis was late for almost 2 hours. Not sure if that is intentional or what or maybe he is trying to play mind games and telling that he is the A-side in this fight.

Nevertheless, Lol, rehydration clause? I know that it's becoming the norm for some fight and this could be the contention that fights fall because it's too much. But Ryan Garcia gave to their demands and probably the ring size too could favor or at least the camp of Davis wanted a bigger or small size.

Yes, I also found out later that Tank Davis is late for the press conference. Not sure if this is intentional on his part though, I will have to check out again his previous press conferences if he has this habit of being late? Maybe it's time to add this to their contract as well that either should not be late in the media as this look unprofessional? hehehe

Anyhow, Tank has an answer to that, he said that he was caught up with the traffic, and he admitted that it is indeed unprofessional on his part, specially this fight of huge magnitude. And he apologizes to the media.

As for the tickets, I thought it has started already, but we need to wait for a couple of hours. There is a timer as well:

https://www.axs.com/events/473623/davis-vs-garcia-tickets

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March 09, 2023, 11:11:42 PM
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Tank Davis knocks out Ryan Garcia. Garcia is too young and I think he is rushing his career too much and will pay the price. If he loses it will be a big set back in his career and he will find it hard to get the big fights again. I think he should wait until Tank gets older and Garcia can get some important fights in between and try to develop the ring experience he needs to beat a Tank.
Tank is 28 years old and Garcia is 24 years old, I don't think 24 years old is too young, take a look with Mike Tyson where his best performance was at 20-23 years old. It's true they're different, but that's a proof where 24 years isn't too young especially Garcia have started his career when he was at 18 years old. I don't see any excuse about age, reach, or total fights, both of them are similar, it just depends on their skills.
It is not about age because it is about who they fought before, 2 of them are considered as the best boxers in our generation but their past opponents and experience are not the same. In terms of who fought more stronger boxers in the past, it is Tank wherein he fought a lot of champions and he beat them all. While Garcia only fought a 1 powerful fighter which is Luke Campbell where he knocked down once by luke. Both of their hooks and head movements are so smooth and this is a fight between Southpaw vs Orthodox. I'm so excited to see who will win in this war. Tank also said in his past interview that his retirement is coming so for sure he will be a more stronger in this following night. Both camp are training hard and boxing fans are starting to get goosebumps in this match.
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March 10, 2023, 12:01:36 PM
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There is also a second face to face, and still both of them touches each other chin, no pushing or something of any physical thought, it's more of their mouth running on each other faces.

I don't like Oscar though saying that this could be bigger than Oscar vs Floyd that time and it could break their 2.4 PPV records.

What other thinks of the PPV numbers of this fight though? will it be close to 1M? I doubt that they can get to that numbers.

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March 10, 2023, 03:46:49 PM
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There is also a second face to face, and still both of them touches each other chin, no pushing or something of any physical thought, it's more of their mouth running on each other faces.

I don't like Oscar though saying that this could be bigger than Oscar vs Floyd that time and it could break their 2.4 PPV records.

What other thinks of the PPV numbers of this fight though? will it be close to 1M? I doubt that they can get to that numbers.

These days, it's hard to reach 1 million pay-per-view (PPV) buys, but let's see. Maybe Oscar, as a promoter, is just trying to exaggerate things to sell the fight more. The trash-talking between Davis and Garcia will continue to generate hype for this fight, so that should be enough to generate huge sales. However, I'm not sure if they'll be able to hit the 1 million target.
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March 10, 2023, 03:54:31 PM
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There is also a second face to face, and still both of them touches each other chin, no pushing or something of any physical thought, it's more of their mouth running on each other faces.

I don't like Oscar though saying that this could be bigger than Oscar vs Floyd that time and it could break their 2.4 PPV records.

What other thinks of the PPV numbers of this fight though? will it be close to 1M? I doubt that they can get to that numbers.

It's possible this deal did not happen overnight its three or four years in the making both guys have matured inside and outside of the ring and they realize that they need a fight to validate and establish their legacy because checking both fighters, they have not fought boxers that is equal to their popularity and greatness and this is the fight that will validate each other, and there will only be one that can validate his greatness.
Finally all involved get their acts together because they need to give the boxing community or set the trend of great boxers fighting another great fighter, because of what happened to the Crawford - Spence deal, so we'll see if it will reach 1 million but it's possible.

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March 10, 2023, 04:20:26 PM
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There is also a second face to face, and still both of them touches each other chin, no pushing or something of any physical thought, it's more of their mouth running on each other faces.

I don't like Oscar though saying that this could be bigger than Oscar vs Floyd that time and it could break their 2.4 PPV records.

What other thinks of the PPV numbers of this fight though? will it be close to 1M? I doubt that they can get to that numbers.

These days, it's hard to reach 1 million pay-per-view (PPV) buys, but let's see. Maybe Oscar, as a promoter, is just trying to exaggerate things to sell the fight more. The trash-talking between Davis and Garcia will continue to generate hype for this fight, so that should be enough to generate huge sales. However, I'm not sure if they'll be able to hit the 1 million target.
One millions pay-per,- view (PPV) is quite high which is we all know that these fighters capability but we don't know that thier trash-talking strategy will click and them they hit the target which pretty good enough because expecting crowded venue and then the money they get from tickets will be high also so the promoters of this fight do thier best to hit that. And honestly speaking for me I don't think so if They gonna make it. But maybe its a lot of time for them .

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One millions pay-per,- view (PPV) is quite high which is we all know that these fighters capability but we don't know that thier trash-talking strategy will click and them they hit the target which pretty good enough because expecting crowded venue and then the money they get from tickets will be high also so the promoters of this fight do thier best to hit that. And honestly speaking for me I don't think so if They gonna make it. But maybe its a lot of time for them .
When two great undefeated boxers who hated and had no respect for each other collide that's going to be a big hit, I have seen their press release and they thrash talking and they almost come to a brawl

Tank even poke his hands on Garcia's face, I will not be surprised if they come to a blow and this is something their promoters must watch out the for if one of them gets hurt the fight might be postponed and this is not good, let them do all the talking in the ring there's too much hype already on this fight for the match to get another delay.


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One millions pay-per,- view (PPV) is quite high which is we all know that these fighters capability but we don't know that thier trash-talking strategy will click and them they hit the target which pretty good enough because expecting crowded venue and then the money they get from tickets will be high also so the promoters of this fight do thier best to hit that. And honestly speaking for me I don't think so if They gonna make it. But maybe its a lot of time for them .
When two great undefeated boxers who hated and had no respect for each other collide that's going to be a big hit, I have seen their press release and they thrash talking and they almost come to a brawl

Tank even poke his hands on Garcia's face, I will not be surprised if they come to a blow and this is something their promoters must watch out the for if one of them gets hurt the fight might be postponed and this is not good, let them do all the talking in the ring there's too much hype already on this fight for the match to get another delay.
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1st round almost starts in this face-off. None of them are intimidated though so this is going to be a really good fight. One of them is going to feel the first loss after this.

Ryan has both speed and power which is going to be his biggest advantage here. Keep the distance and throw a counter. Tank knows this will be the strategy, he might just be chasing Ryan.


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One millions pay-per,- view (PPV) is quite high which is we all know that these fighters capability but we don't know that thier trash-talking strategy will click and them they hit the target which pretty good enough because expecting crowded venue and then the money they get from tickets will be high also so the promoters of this fight do thier best to hit that. And honestly speaking for me I don't think so if They gonna make it. But maybe its a lot of time for them .
When two great undefeated boxers who hated and had no respect for each other collide that's going to be a big hit, I have seen their press release and they thrash talking and they almost come to a brawl

Tank even poke his hands on Garcia's face, I will not be surprised if they come to a blow and this is something their promoters must watch out the for if one of them gets hurt the fight might be postponed and this is not good, let them do all the talking in the ring there's too much hype already on this fight for the match to get another delay.
GERVONTA DAVIS PUNCHES RYAN GARCIA DURING EXPLOSIVE FACE OFF IN LA

1st round almost starts in this face-off. None of them are intimidated though so this is going to be a really good fight. One of them is going to feel the first loss after this.

Ryan has both speed and power which is going to be his biggest advantage here. Keep the distance and throw a counter. Tank knows this will be the strategy, he might just be chasing Ryan.


Yes you are right that mate one of these two great boxer will be end if to defeat as we all know they need to prove us that they are the champions.  And for tank Davis need to wait a perfect timing in order to defeat Ryan Garcia because we all know that Ryan Garcia has a speed and power that can dominate his opponent so tank Davis will wait and then if he has a chance then throw a good and solid punches .

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March 11, 2023, 07:45:50 PM
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There is also a second face to face, and still both of them touches each other chin, no pushing or something of any physical thought, it's more of their mouth running on each other faces.

I don't like Oscar though saying that this could be bigger than Oscar vs Floyd that time and it could break their 2.4 PPV records.

What other thinks of the PPV numbers of this fight though? will it be close to 1M? I doubt that they can get to that numbers.

These days, it's hard to reach 1 million pay-per-view (PPV) buys, but let's see. Maybe Oscar, as a promoter, is just trying to exaggerate things to sell the fight more. The trash-talking between Davis and Garcia will continue to generate hype for this fight, so that should be enough to generate huge sales. However, I'm not sure if they'll be able to hit the 1 million target.

Yes, it is a bit too much for Oscar to compare this fight and his fight against Mayweather back in the day where they sold 2.4 million PPV and set the record as the highest PPV buys until the Mayweather vs McGregor arrived and took their place, leaving a wide gap that might be hard to break in this era because just like what you've said, a million PPV these days are not that easy to get anymore as internet gives people more opportunity to watch the live free.

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March 11, 2023, 08:43:11 PM
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I hope Ryan Garcia is really that confident because if it turns out that he is not that ready, he will be heavily criticized by a lot of people for calling Tank Davis to fight him when in-fact he doesn't have what it takes. He needed to prove it and he needed this fight to bring himself in a much higher seed. Forget about the doubters, that is normal because Tank has been on the game first and already proved what he can do.

Ryan Garcia has been calling out everybody hehe, it's just that only Tank Davis has responded. This fight is an acid test for him and if ever he will be knocked out by Tank Davis then he is a fluke, i mean that he doesn't have what it takes to be in the league with the big boys in this division.

In the press conference yesterday, size advantage was very visible for Ryan in the face-off but he has to walk the talk and hope he could utilize his size to his advantage. Some people were saying that Ryan was visibly scared during their first press conference but i don't think so, i think Ryan was just nervous as this is his first time being on a stage with a legit champion for a very big event soon.

Probably because Tank Davis was also interested getting a big payday out of Ryan Garcia because he is not yet getting a shot to have a regular belt as Devin Haney already have opponents queued to him as long as he will win against Lomachenko. The latter called this fight and he is expected to do what he is talking because if he cannot, it's much better for him to be silent because he cannot prove anything except having a tune-up fight.

While for Tank Davis, we can see that he is not backing down with this challenge even if Ryan Garcia got the size advantage. It's not that this is Tank's first fight with boxer who is much taller than him. IQ and experience is much more important.
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1st round almost starts in this face-off. None of them are intimidated though so this is going to be a really good fight. One of them is going to feel the first loss after this.

Ryan has both speed and power which is going to be his biggest advantage here. Keep the distance and throw a counter. Tank knows this will be the strategy, he might just be chasing Ryan.

Both of them are good at counter-punching we never know who's going to chase first I have seen Tank knocking people out opponents while chasing him like in his last fight against Romero, Romero was caught by surprise, and Ryan's chin is big suspect he was somewhat exposed on the Campbell fight its a big concern if Ryan chase tank.
While Tank's body and chin were tested and passed when he fought Pitbull Cruz, it will still go down on who has the better preparation and ring skill, on this area Tank has a slight edge. 

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March 11, 2023, 09:42:38 PM
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There is also a second face to face, and still both of them touches each other chin, no pushing or something of any physical thought, it's more of their mouth running on each other faces.

I don't like Oscar though saying that this could be bigger than Oscar vs Floyd that time and it could break their 2.4 PPV records.

What other thinks of the PPV numbers of this fight though? will it be close to 1M? I doubt that they can get to that numbers.

Same here, I doubt that they could reach the 1M mark knowing that both of them came from the same country, I mean their fan base is in the US unlike when one of the fighters has a fan base outside of the US then it's expected that PPV buys would be higher.

I don't if this is true but i've read that tickets for this fight are already sold out if they are telling the truth then probably this scenario could increase the PPV buys. Both of the protagonists of this fight are in their prime but which regards to experience and marketability, that's the aspect that they are lacking as of this time.

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