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Tank Davis - 35 (74.5%)
Ryan Garcia - 12 (25.5%)
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February 15, 2023, 06:18:07 PM
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I don't know if I'm sinning in saying the following, but I think they should lower the prices, not only is everything win-win, I think that things regarding money have already been covered, they should also give them the opportunity that many stay and can give the opportunity to go to this type of event, the fans know that most of them are not millionaires and it is difficult for them to get money to be able to go to a great event of this caliber, so it is not bad that they can make a discount so that most of them can go, as long as what also matters is that he can generate more emotions and give others the opportunity to go and enjoy such a good fight.

Boxer Gervonta Davis needed wheelchair for Super Bowl



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Boxing fans have been clamoring for a fight between Gervonta Davis and Ryan Garcia, but it would appear as though the bout is going to have to wait.

Davis attended Super Bowl LVII on Sunday and was spotted being pushed around in a wheelchair. A TMZ reporter caught up with the 28-year-old and asked if he was injured. Davis said he was “all right” before members of his crew tried to cut the photographer off.

“S— happen all the time. S— be happening,” Davis said.

Source: https://larrybrownsports.com/boxing/gervonta-davis-wheelchair-super-bowl/611489


They are trying to get more money from the fans either on the stadium or PPV. They may even raise the price because this fight is about to be max hyped with Tank's stunts.

Saw the feed too and then Prograis stepped in to replace Tank in case he is scared to fight Ryan. It was never really clear whether Tank was injured or not. But this could just be marketing still.

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February 15, 2023, 08:59:38 PM
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^^ Tank will have to go to a another court hearing if I'm not mistaken about another case on his, hit and run. And I think this is one issue that both sides have been looking ever since they want to have this fight because it's out of their control. We don't know what will be the judges decision.

As far as the prices, $70 and as high as $79.99 has been the standard for boxing.

I agree that they should lowered the price, but everything is affected by inflation and so every business is increasing their prices nowadays including tickets.
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February 15, 2023, 09:58:33 PM
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^^ Tank will have to go to a another court hearing if I'm not mistaken about another case on his, hit and run. And I think this is one issue that both sides have been looking ever since they want to have this fight because it's out of their control. We don't know what will be the judges decision.

The court hearing of that hit and run charges will be today, February 16, 2023, and his destiny fights with Ryan Garcia relies on the outcome of that hearing as he could face a jail term of up to seven years if proven guilty, that would ruin his boxing career not just the Ryan Garcia fight.

Last time I've checked, the contract for this fight is not yet final so maybe next week we could see progress and a definite schedule once Tank Davis will be cleared on the court from these 14 charges of hit and run.

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February 15, 2023, 11:44:36 PM
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^^ Tank will have to go to a another court hearing if I'm not mistaken about another case on his, hit and run. And I think this is one issue that both sides have been looking ever since they want to have this fight because it's out of their control. We don't know what will be the judges decision.

The court hearing of that hit and run charges will be today, February 16, 2023, and his destiny fights with Ryan Garcia relies on the outcome of that hearing as he could face a jail term of up to seven years if proven guilty, that would ruin his boxing career not just the Ryan Garcia fight.

Last time I've checked, the contract for this fight is not yet final so maybe next week we could see progress and a definite schedule once Tank Davis will be cleared on the court from these 14 charges of hit and run.

Yes, everyone is waiting how the court hearing will end today, it could be in his favor or worst, getting a jail time, but for sure they can work it out with the judges though and who knows, community services and some concessions, we might still see this fight in the end.

Agree, maybe we are mislead that the contract is done already, but it's not yet finalized or even sign by both parties including such as rematch clause and other nit and gritty things. So let's wait for it today, for sure the news will be over boxing media later.

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February 16, 2023, 12:10:59 AM
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I did not know that tank is being investigated for hit and run. if he is proven guilty he will be thrown in jail? I hate when celebrities get away with things because they have money. If he is found guilty I will lose all my respect for him and it would ruin his career. Has any one got a link that talks about the hit and run? I want to know if the person died or not or what injuries they sustained. I never thought Tank would do something like this. If the person he hit and run does not have life threatening injuries and he escapes jail time I really hope Garcia knocks him out for karma.

Yes, everyone is waiting how the court hearing will end today, it could be in his favor or worst, getting a jail time, but for sure they can work it out with the judges though and who knows, community services and some concessions, we might still see this fight in the end.

Agree, maybe we are mislead that the contract is done already, but it's not yet finalized or even sign by both parties including such as rematch clause and other nit and gritty things. So let's wait for it today, for sure the news will be over boxing media later.
It probably can not be finalized because of the court hearing. Who wants to sign a contract with someone who hit and run another person? The concessions you are describing sounds like corruption if he is found guilty he should serve a full sentence that a normal person that is not famous would do.
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February 16, 2023, 03:47:03 AM
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a update:

Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis vs. Ryan Garcia: 3 possible sites in Las Vegas, Nevada for April 15th

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By Craig Daly: The Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia mega-fight is being targeted at one of the following venues on April 15th on Showtime PPV in Las Vegas, Nevada: Allegiant Stadium, T-Mobile Arena, or MGM Grand. Boxing Scene is reporting the news of the Tank vs. Ryan fight heading to Las Vegas, which makes sense because that’s where most of the mega-fights in the U.S. take place nowadays. Ideally, the Davis-Garcia fight will be staged at the Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas because it’s the largest venue by far of the three, allowing more boxing fans to attend and for a lower price cost of the ticket than if the contest takes place at the other two.



Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/02/gervonta-tank-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-3-possible-sites-in-las-vegas-nevada-for-april-15th/

This is already being discussed here but I did not think that ticket prices would be lower if it was in the Allegiant Stadium  which could mean it is more accessible to fans to that could boost sales. T mobile and the MGM have always been expensive venues to attend and Vegas is not the cheapest place to find hotels or travel to. If they can reduce the ticket prices that might allow more people to afford but still benefit the promoters enough so that they go for Allegiant Stadium .
The ticket is expensive and they also have big-time sponsors so they will surely make money from it. It will not be affordable for ordinary people so we got no choice but just to watch it through their chosen platforms. They consider it as a big match of the first quarter so no wonder why the organizers have chosen an expensive venue. Garcia still wants to prove a lot so if he'll beat Davis, so he must be well prepared for this because for sure, Davis would also grab this chance to maintain his good record.

Well, in particular, I think that when these types of events are taken into consideration, they should make a division for people whose tickets are not so expensive and sell out quickly, or perhaps do it in a much larger place, to give them more opportunity. everyone to be able to occupy themselves, the fans are very important in a fight of this type, this will remain for history for posterity, if we see it that way this fight is very important, and maybe even our own children can remember this fight, everything is in the poibhldiades, just knowing that you had the opportunity to go and couldn't is like something sad.

and now:

Gervonta Davis tells website to ‘shut up’ after he’s pictured in a wheelchair ahead of proposed Ryan Garcia fight and dances following ankle injury report



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TMZ shared the images of Davis in the chair.

They reported that he was ‘dealing with an ankle injury’ but expected to be fine to fight Garcia in two months’ time.

Davis was not happy with the story.

He responded by quote tweeting TMZ’s tweet with the caption ‘shut up’.

He also attached a video showing him dancing around on his ankles to prove that they are not injured.

Source: https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1331328/

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February 16, 2023, 10:44:10 AM
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I did not know that tank is being investigated for hit and run. if he is proven guilty he will be thrown in jail? I hate when celebrities get away with things because they have money. If he is found guilty I will lose all my respect for him and it would ruin his career. Has any one got a link that talks about the hit and run? I want to know if the person died or not or what injuries they sustained. I never thought Tank would do something like this. If the person he hit and run does not have life threatening injuries and he escapes jail time I really hope Garcia knocks him out for karma.
We should probably wait for the results of the case first before saying such bad things. He ain't a convict yet as long as he is not proven guilty, right?

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TMZ shared the images of Davis in the chair.

They reported that he was ‘dealing with an ankle injury’ but expected to be fine to fight Garcia in two months’ time.

Davis was not happy with the story.

He responded by quote tweeting TMZ’s tweet with the caption ‘shut up’.

He also attached a video showing him dancing around on his ankles to prove that they are not injured.

Source: https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1331328/

I can see two reasons behind the wheelchair thing, it's either for marketing their match or for his case. I mean, rich people do this kind of stunt to help with the case if I am not mistaken.
That's the Superbowl and he knows that media will be there, why would his camp put him in a wheelchair even if his ankle is aching? As a boxing champion, they knew it will be a big scoop to the media and there will be a lot of speculations about it which means he will be in the trend.
Now, they are proving it doesn't hurt with a dancing clip. His PR might really be good at manipulating the media.  Cheesy Some rich personality should hire him.

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February 16, 2023, 11:41:00 AM
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I can see two reasons behind the wheelchair thing, it's either for marketing their match or for his case. I mean, rich people do this kind of stunt to help with the case if I am not mistaken.
That's the Superbowl and he knows that media will be there, why would his camp put him in a wheelchair even if his ankle is aching? As a boxing champion, they knew it will be a big scoop to the media and there will be a lot of speculations about it which means he will be in the trend.
Now, they are proving it doesn't hurt with a dancing clip. His PR might really be good at manipulating the media.  Cheesy Some rich personality should hire him.

Most likely, it's just a marketing stunt. If that's his mentality, I like Davis for wanting to see a sold-out crowd. Both fighters are popular, so it's expected that fans will watch, but he still wants to maximize their income as big fights like this don't happen all the time. It's best to take advantage of these opportunities.

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February 16, 2023, 12:03:47 PM
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I can see two reasons behind the wheelchair thing, it's either for marketing their match or for his case. I mean, rich people do this kind of stunt to help with the case if I am not mistaken.
That's the Superbowl and he knows that media will be there, why would his camp put him in a wheelchair even if his ankle is aching? As a boxing champion, they knew it will be a big scoop to the media and there will be a lot of speculations about it which means he will be in the trend.
Now, they are proving it doesn't hurt with a dancing clip. His PR might really be good at manipulating the media.  Cheesy Some rich personality should hire him.

Most likely, it's just a marketing stunt. If that's his mentality, I like Davis for wanting to see a sold-out crowd. Both fighters are popular, so it's expected that fans will watch, but he still wants to maximize their income as big fights like this don't happen all the time. It's best to take advantage of these opportunities.

They can do whatever they want, but they have to ensure that this fight will not be postponed or, worse, canceled. Fans have been eagerly waiting for this fight, even if it's still months away, so they better execute their marketing plans properly and have no reason to not make it happen.
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February 16, 2023, 12:23:10 PM
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I can see two reasons behind the wheelchair thing, it's either for marketing their match or for his case. I mean, rich people do this kind of stunt to help with the case if I am not mistaken.
That's the Superbowl and he knows that media will be there, why would his camp put him in a wheelchair even if his ankle is aching? As a boxing champion, they knew it will be a big scoop to the media and there will be a lot of speculations about it which means he will be in the trend.
Now, they are proving it doesn't hurt with a dancing clip. His PR might really be good at manipulating the media.  Cheesy Some rich personality should hire him.

Most likely, it's just a marketing stunt. If that's his mentality, I like Davis for wanting to see a sold-out crowd. Both fighters are popular, so it's expected that fans will watch, but he still wants to maximize their income as big fights like this don't happen all the time. It's best to take advantage of these opportunities.

They can do whatever they want, but they have to ensure that this fight will not be postponed or, worse, canceled. Fans have been eagerly waiting for this fight, even if it's still months away, so they better execute their marketing plans properly and have no reason to not make it happen.

We really don't know how this news outlet says that Davis has injury or in a wheelchair, did someone has image or picture taken to prove their point?

On the other hand, Davis has shown proof, dancing in that clip being shared by him in his official social media although there is no face and it seems that shoes are too big for him, Lol. But maybe that's where the sarcasm shoes though. We just need to hear what they are going to say, whether the fight is a go or will they postpone it for the meantime because of Davis court hearings.

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February 16, 2023, 01:39:05 PM
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^^ Tank will have to go to a another court hearing if I'm not mistaken about another case on his, hit and run. And I think this is one issue that both sides have been looking ever since they want to have this fight because it's out of their control. We don't know what will be the judges decision.

The court hearing of that hit and run charges will be today, February 16, 2023, and his destiny fights with Ryan Garcia relies on the outcome of that hearing as he could face a jail term of up to seven years if proven guilty, that would ruin his boxing career not just the Ryan Garcia fight.

Ok, I try to look for sources or at least what is the outcome of the court hearing, so far I can't find any.

Last time I've checked, the contract for this fight is not yet final so maybe next week we could see progress and a definite schedule once Tank Davis will be cleared on the court from these 14 charges of hit and run.

But they also try us to believed initially that the fight has been signed already. And then later, there is issues with rematch clause and who is going to handle it. There is no mentioned of this court hearing but I believed this is the biggest factor why their is no contract in the first place. That's a lot of charges, and we don't know how he can clear all that charges.
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^^ Tank will have to go to a another court hearing if I'm not mistaken about another case on his, hit and run. And I think this is one issue that both sides have been looking ever since they want to have this fight because it's out of their control. We don't know what will be the judges decision.

The court hearing of that hit and run charges will be today, February 16, 2023, and his destiny fights with Ryan Garcia relies on the outcome of that hearing as he could face a jail term of up to seven years if proven guilty, that would ruin his boxing career not just the Ryan Garcia fight.

Ok, I try to look for sources or at least what is the outcome of the court hearing, so far I can't find any.

Here's about Tank Davis's court hearing outcome:
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Gervonta Davis has pleaded guilty to charges stemming from a November 2020 hit-and-run in Baltimore, Maryland. The crash injured a pregnant woman and three other people.

The 28-year-old boxer's sentencing is scheduled for May 5. Davis is reportedly working on a deal to finalize a fight with Ryan Garcia on a proposed date of April 15 in Las Vegas.

So, it's still likely that Davis-Garcia fight will be pushed through at the determined date and place.

Last time I've checked, the contract for this fight is not yet final so maybe next week we could see progress and a definite schedule once Tank Davis will be cleared on the court from these 14 charges of hit and run.

But they also try us to believed initially that the fight has been signed already. And then later, there is issues with rematch clause and who is going to handle it. There is no mentioned of this court hearing but I believed this is the biggest factor why their is no contract in the first place. That's a lot of charges, and we don't know how he can clear all that charges.

Considering that Tank Davis's next trial for sentencing is scheduled in May 5th, we may have a news about their fight in the next couple of days confirming about the issues that are blocking the fight including the rematch clause misunderstanding. Let's just wait for it because I know they will be now forced to make the fight happen in April because it's either a delay or no fight at all because Davis's sentencing result is not yet guaranteed.

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February 16, 2023, 08:49:39 PM
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Ok, so he pleaded guilty on 4 counts and the next hearing is May 5. So one obstacle has been hurdled already, so hopefully then can go back to the negotiation table again and talk about the rematch clause and what not so that the deal can be sign by both parties and then announced the fight officially.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-pleads-guilty-hit-run-case-baltimore-sentencing-set-5--172521

Everyone is still at the fence for this fight as we all thought that everything is smooth between two camps. So again, we will have to wait in the next couple of weeks, its already 2nd week of February, + 8 weeks or training or more for this two. Time is not on their side, they have to decide whether to make it April or before the next hearing of Davis.

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February 16, 2023, 09:30:32 PM
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Ok, so he pleaded guilty on 4 counts and the next hearing is May 5. So one obstacle has been hurdled already, so hopefully then can go back to the negotiation table again and talk about the rematch clause and what not so that the deal can be sign by both parties and then announced the fight officially.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-pleads-guilty-hit-run-case-baltimore-sentencing-set-5--172521

Everyone is still at the fence for this fight as we all thought that everything is smooth between two camps. So again, we will have to wait in the next couple of weeks, its already 2nd week of February, + 8 weeks or training or more for this two. Time is not on their side, they have to decide whether to make it April or before the next hearing of Davis.

I don't know...  Hit and run on a pregnant lady...  I think the only way he makes this fight is if he gets the case pushed back until after the fight.  I don't see any way he doesn't do some serious jailtime for this and when a high level fighter is subjected to jailhouse treatment for any period of time it usually doesn't end in good results for them.  You don't have to look further than Mike Tyson to know that.  It seems like Davis has been getting himself into a great deal of trouble lately and I think this could very well signal the end of his career as a fighter.  This Ryan Garcia fight, if it takes place, will likely be the climax of his story.

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February 16, 2023, 09:55:48 PM
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This Ryan Garcia fight, if it takes place, will likely be the climax of his story.

Oh wow, this could be another Mike Tyson in the making. Don't know how the judiciary system works in the US but with the things I saw, Davis can face jail time after that May 5 sentencing. I think they should push through with their plan to fight Ryan Garcia on April 15 as jail time could really affect his career. Per report, contract finalization is imminent so we will just wait for it now.

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February 16, 2023, 10:05:22 PM
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Ok, so he pleaded guilty on 4 counts and the next hearing is May 5. So one obstacle has been hurdled already, so hopefully then can go back to the negotiation table again and talk about the rematch clause and what not so that the deal can be sign by both parties and then announced the fight officially.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-pleads-guilty-hit-run-case-baltimore-sentencing-set-5--172521

Everyone is still at the fence for this fight as we all thought that everything is smooth between two camps. So again, we will have to wait in the next couple of weeks, its already 2nd week of February, + 8 weeks or training or more for this two. Time is not on their side, they have to decide whether to make it April or before the next hearing of Davis.

I don't know...  Hit and run on a pregnant lady...  I think the only way he makes this fight is if he gets the case pushed back until after the fight.  I don't see any way he doesn't do some serious jailtime for this and when a high level fighter is subjected to jailhouse treatment for any period of time it usually doesn't end in good results for them.  You don't have to look further than Mike Tyson to know that.  It seems like Davis has been getting himself into a great deal of trouble lately and I think this could very well signal the end of his career as a fighter.  This Ryan Garcia fight, if it takes place, will likely be the climax of his story.

Tyson case though is very different as it was a rape against a 18 year old, I'm not that well versed on criminal law but I guess it's more serious that Davis is facing, and that time everyone is really after Mike Tyson's money.

But I would agree though that this young black american like Davis, who has the fame and money still getting themselves in bad situation and troubles and maybe they are circling themselves with bad people and influence, like Ja Morant of basketball. But I'm still hoping that this fight is going to happen at the second half of the year.

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February 16, 2023, 10:42:15 PM
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How can a fight be made if he has pleased guilty? Any normal person would go to jail for hitting 4 people and fleeing the crime scene. I hate how rich famous people get away with everything. Any normal person gets jailed for many years for this. I hope Garcia knocks him out and teaches him a lesson I hope the fan base show that they are not supporters of him any more because of his hit and run. I used to like Tank but I have a entirely new view of him since I learned about this. I cannot believe he will get away with it and continue boxing.
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Davis is a beast; according to record reports and prior confirmations, he's won 28 times and outta them, are provably 26 knockout wins - C'monnnn, that alone is a record that shoulda thwarted Garcia's effort on being too hopeful for a win innit...lmao
You Know how things changes atimes in the ring; when the Least expected person takes the lead on the scoreboard?? And moves ahead with the title at the end?? Hehe... That wasn't the case though and has never been for Davis.
About being jailed; he isn't commiting a silly crime like that for the first time, is he?? Remember he was jailed for domestic violence act on his girlfriend, even though he denied his actions.

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February 16, 2023, 10:53:57 PM
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How can a fight be made if he has pleased guilty? Any normal person would go to jail for hitting 4 people and fleeing the crime scene. I hate how rich famous people get away with everything. Any normal person gets jailed for many years for this. I hope Garcia knocks him out and teaches him a lesson I hope the fan base show that they are not supporters of him any more because of his hit and run. I used to like Tank but I have a entirely new view of him since I learned about this. I cannot believe he will get away with it and continue boxing.

If the verdict of being guilty is announced after the fight, then the fight will commence but if it is before that then there will be no fight happening at all.  I think the title will be vacated and Ryan Garcia and whoever is deemed worthy to be his opponent for the vacant title will fight for it.

The fight had been taled for so long now and yet we are still unsure if both camp had signed the contract.  The last thing I knew the contract is on Ryan Garcia's camp and is yet to sign it or does he already?

About Davis on a wheelchair, I think it is a marketing ploy or getting people's sentiments.  I don't know where he need that sentiment but I feel that is the reason why Davis appears sitting in a wheel chair.

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February 17, 2023, 06:01:42 PM
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How can a fight be made if he has pleased guilty? Any normal person would go to jail for hitting 4 people and fleeing the crime scene. I hate how rich famous people get away with everything. Any normal person gets jailed for many years for this. I hope Garcia knocks him out and teaches him a lesson I hope the fan base show that they are not supporters of him any more because of his hit and run. I used to like Tank but I have a entirely new view of him since I learned about this. I cannot believe he will get away with it and continue boxing.

I understand your frustrations mate but it's better for you to relax and wait for the judge's decision about that matter because even if we despite Tank Davis for what he did, his personal life is different from what he attained inside the ring as entertainment is different. Let's just not mix things up because that is already biased as you also hoped that Garcia will defeat him because of that reason, you know, we all have our different sins in life which we need to atone and that doesn't give us the right to judge.

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