Cock fight game

[Jemzx00]

Be it passion or simply for profits alone, it will always be very unlikely to see animals fighting each other for man’s satisfaction. We can always chose to gamble with money by using other means but not using animals as tools. Maybe the reason why most of the countries banned cockfighting, and only in Asian countries that the gamblers are more passionate about it. It’s okay for a horse race as it’s also kind of gambling, but I don’t see it reasonable for cockfighting.

As long as it was properly regulated, I don't see why should there be a concern referring to animal cruelty.

There is a lot of violence related to animals globally that needed to be prioritized and addressed that's why it's not a big deal for me to call for an abolishment of cockfighting as a whole as long as it is legal in that country and all standard proceedings are strictly followed.

For a country where cockfighting is treated as legal gambling, we should respect that country's view about that.

From someone who lives on a country where cockfighting is a normal gambling activity, I beg to disagree. Cockfighting may be considered as a legal gambling activity and it might be regulated on some places, but still cockfighting involves violence between two animals that was forced by us human.

However, I also disagree with freedomgo that horseracing should be allowed as it also involves us humans hurting horse for the sake of our fun and leisure. Both cockfighting and horseracing should not be allowed to operate as both involve animal cruelty and unnecessary violence.

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[Asiska02]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

I strongly oppose the use of animals in sports. It is unjust how these creatures have been treated for the sake of sports and gambling. They are live entities with feelings. Unlike humans, we can tell when we want to join in something or not, but they are forced to participate with no option to reject because they cannot communicate like us. It does not seem appropriate to me, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[Baofeng]

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

[coolcoinz]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Well, for me animal fighting is not fun and should not be use as tool for gambling. But if it's not prohibited by the Government, these people won't stop using animal, because as you've said it's fun for those who are engaging themselves in this kind of activity. Anyway, in our country, cock fighting is quite popular especially here in our place. Many men elders are taking care of rooster as business (they sell it when ready) or use it for fighting for their own satisfaction. We have an arena where cock fighting is held, it's legal. Recently they even had a promotion called "fastest kill" and the prize is $600 plus a brand new motorcycle.

You need to be raised in this culture to have no feelings for animals. I'll give you an example. When I first saw a movie about how the Chinese treat dogs and cats before eating them, I was struck by their brutality. These people boil them alive because they think the taste is better if they prepare them this way. It's a sick practice and they don't even blink when they torture these poor animals. They act like this because they were brought up in a culture where an animal is treated like a thing.

Same with those who watch animal fight and enjoy them. You don't care about feelings of a fly or a mosquito and they don't care about rams or dogs. To these people it's one and the same.

[Ebede]

Cock fighting was involved in gambling over the region of Asia and South Asia over a years. Many old people encouraged their new generation in to the cock fighting. They also share their opinions to the younger generation from their young age. This leads to the new involvement of the generation to the cock fighting. Some people also involved in cock trade for the game of cock fighting. Government of many nations encouraged the cock fighting with their people. Some people do this cock fight over year to year.

This is totally in history and this is three is something that so many of us that don't know it have to pay attention and learn about it very well so I've not heard of this story or theory but with this explanation forum, and I can be able to understand exactly and the next time I can also be I will to explain to another person to understand this concept

[n0ne]

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

Animal cruelty is discussed much. With the same, different cultural events have been cited. It is true one should not do harm to the animals. If we've innovated something new it is fine. Here we're following what is being followed out of a community's tradition and culture. Only a poll can get the proper result. I'll be in favour of people to continue gambling with animals, if this is cruelty killing animals for our fooding too is cruelty.

[harizen]

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

A poll, discussion, or debate is not really necessary as both parties have different points of view and their respective beliefs won't be changed. It will turn into a never-ending debate, the same as how debates about politics, religion, and culture went through.

For Gamblers, they really don't mind the use of animals in sports like cockfighting or horse racing.

For animal lovers, they will really oppose the idea of having such sports involving animals.

As for me, I really don't mind both but it doesn't mean I do bet on cockfighting or don't care for animals. In fact, I have 3 dogs, 2 cats, 2 native chickens, and 6 hamsters in our home lol. It's just that, ethical or unethical, we can't change the fact that cockfighting is already there in countries where it is allowed.

Back to OP's question if such a game can be in a casino, the answer is NO technically but a casino game can be designed with such a concept.

[livingfree]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before.

As someone who has pets, I don't think it's always fun or never been fun. There's the satisfying feeling when someone sees the struggle of the other animal and the fight itself but that's not on me.

It's the culture that makes us think that it's fun but if you try to analyze the situation, you'll eventually going to realize that it's no fun at all.

Well, that depends if you really think that it's fun.

[traderethereum]

Yes I have heard of cock fight and have also watched it in films, I have a friend from part of Asia he explained this gambling stuff to me saying that his parents and grandparents loves gambling on cock fight. He said also grew up to enjoy it because they see it as fun. I love trying something new,if i happen to see it anywhere I will go and watch and possibly stake my bet after I have observed the game and have seen the rascal chicken that is capable of winning. I don't think this can be included in a casino because of the love man has for animals and have seen them worth living so many people might not like the concept.

I don't think it's love because we use the animal to gamble and often, the animal is killed in the end.
And even though they have spent time taking care of the animals but they still use them to gamble and try to win some money.
But maybe in Asia, this is common and has been happening for a long time, so it's not uncommon to see cockfights or other animal bets.
And if the government sees that this is addictive for the current generation, they will ban it and punish people who use animals to gamble.

[AicecreaME]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before.

As someone who has pets, I don't think it's always fun or never been fun. There's the satisfying feeling when someone sees the struggle of the other animal and the fight itself but that's not on me.

It's the culture that makes us think that it's fun but if you try to analyze the situation, you'll eventually going to realize that it's no fun at all.

Well, that depends if you really think that it's fun.

As someone who has animals as pets, it's not really very enjoyable to watch an animal suffer just because someone has placed a bet on it. Way back when I was still a child, I also engaged in some sort of betting on spider fighting. It was fun way back when I'm still not knowledgeable enough that they have feelings and they deserve to live too. But now, I wouldn't really place a bet on something that involves cruelty because it just tolerates and even boosts the urge of those people who organize such because there are people engaging in it.

Seeing how the two gamecocks fight against each other because humans tell them to and put them in such situation wherein survival of the fittest is the only way to be alive and fighting will be their only way out is such a horrible idea. But then again, not everyone possess the same level of empathy that a person has. It varies to different extent and some do not even possess it at all. If it's your definition of fun, I won't really support you, but I won't impose my beliefs on you.

[Pierre 2]

I was shocked to see in Türkiye people were organizing cock fights through hidden Facebook groups (this was found out when 1-2 of them were forgotten, so comments and posts were visible). There were people with rooster images talking in sort of cryptic language. It was legal are in law in past. But now we have animal rights law so its completely illegal. I also think this should not be encouraged anymore, I see how those animals are losing their all feathers and such. Terrible exploitation of animals.

[piebeyb]

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

yes there are some cultures that are still thick with animal cruelty but besides that all of us in this forum have to respect their culture if we want to be respected, to be honest it's not a gambling game that I want because I'm not someone who likes to kill animals just to bet on gambling, so this discussion will be very long to discuss because it all depends on the point of view of different communities

after all it seems no casino is too keen on the idea of creating gambling that features animal cruelty

[Pamadar]

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

yes there are some cultures that are still thick with animal cruelty but besides that all of us in this forum have to respect their culture if we want to be respected, to be honest it's not a gambling game that I want because I'm not someone who likes to kill animals just to bet on gambling, so this discussion will be very long to discuss because it all depends on the point of view of different communities

after all it seems no casino is too keen on the idea of creating gambling that features animal cruelty

Got that point, a valid opinion that there are differences among us here. Maybe it will be on your own take if how will you prefer whether you will not engage if chances permit that you have that kind of gambling from where you are.

It's your decision and if others are willing to gamble, then, like what you said, let them or so be it.
Nothing will change for now, as there are countries who still allow this kind of gambling and I like
the idea that there's no gambling website or major website that cater this kind of gambling.

[rahmad2nd]

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

Whether it should be ? we don't need to debate it. after all, the type of gambling that involves animals as a backdrop does not exist in sports or casino gambling. the exception is horse racing or dog racing as these have nothing to do with fighting animals like in a boxing ring. after all, in my own country, culture and traditions like this are strictly prohibited, be it cockfighting, or sheep fighting, it is no longer allowed to involve gambling, I don't know in other Asian countries.

These traditions and cultures have existed long before we were born, to eliminate cultures and traditions like this requires awareness from each individual. there is a process, moreover now there are organizations all over the world that love animals and strictly prohibit gambling actions that involve the brutality of fights involving animals. after all, we already have an online casino, which is more enjoyable. Gradually, this kind of culture will disappear by itself.

[Mahanton]

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

yes there are some cultures that are still thick with animal cruelty but besides that all of us in this forum have to respect their culture if we want to be respected, to be honest it's not a gambling game that I want because I'm not someone who likes to kill animals just to bet on gambling, so this discussion will be very long to discuss because it all depends on the point of view of different communities

after all it seems no casino is too keen on the idea of creating gambling that features animal cruelty

Agree on this one that we should really be respecting on other countries culture.It is really just that there are really people who are really just making those exaggerated reactions in talks about
animal cruelty which they dont even bother about asking the situation into those hogs that been slaughtered just for us people to have some meat. Lets just really that accept 
that there are places in the world which does have different culture and things that they've been dealing.They might not really be looking to be good or ethical on some point
but well its theirs to take and its none of our business and we dont have rights on criticizing it.

[goldkingcoiner]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

So basically the real life equivalent of pokemon. Except more brutal and less exciting. Not that I have anything against a digital version. Hell, why not just play Pokemon and fight Pokemon? It is basically the same thing and you don't need to kill chickens for it.

To answer your question, I think such a game cannot be installed in most casinos due to laws. But there are countries in which they could exist in casinos, I am sure. But they can definitely find a crowd in online casinos. But then again, that would just be Pokemon. Maybe that's the reason casinos do not include this in their gambling games?

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

[bisdak40]

To answer your question, I think such a game cannot be installed in most casinos due to laws. But there are countries in which they could exist in casinos, I am sure. But they can definitely find a crowd in online casinos. But then again, that would just be Pokemon. Maybe that's the reason casinos do not include this in their gambling games?

As i've said in my previous post above that in our country there is this online cockbetting where you can bet anytime, anywhere as long as you have an internet connection and it used to be legalized by the government but now it stopped due to some complaints but you can still find online cockbetting but not that open anymore as it is already illegally operated. Online cockbetting could generate billions of pesos that i think it is a bigger platform that a casino in our country which is why it is very hard to stop/eliminate.

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

[goldkingcoiner]

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? 

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

[blockman]

It's very common in our country and there are even online casinos that are focused only on this type of match. I'm not into it but there's been a big issue about it because that owner of roosters that are cheating, they're releasing in the cockpit a weak rooster, and then they'll bet on the opponent's side. There are a lot of those people involved that have been kidnapped and until now, no one knows about their whereabouts.

[GiftedMAN]

Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

Betting on this kind of game can be easy to predict by easily judging for the fitness and look of the rams I think, and one thing I am wondering is how is it done that these rams just begin to fight themselves, seems odd. You also said that some of the rams are secretly smuggled to were the ram fight is supposed to take place, how do people who their smuggled rams die in the process handle it.

No, the reverse is always the case because some rams may appear too weak but when they come in contact with another ram they get energized to fight harder. The statement of the op about some people smuggling some ram to gamble is not correct because the rams are trained rams that's why they can easily start fighting when they get to the gambling ground about the issue of where some cow die in the process of fighting, the owners are aware of the risk that's why its not always a problem when there is a dead ram.