Cock fight game

[Frankolala]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

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[Finestream]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Cockfighting is very popular in our country so I often see this kind of gambling especially that my father has been into it for a long time. But i’m not into it since I’m more fond with online casinos and sportsbetting. But if  these kind of gambling will be introduce in the casinos, I don’t think it’s impossible. However, with these rams going in a fight, then there should be a very spacious casino that would cater to these type of animals.

[ajochems]

Cock fighting was involved in gambling over the region of Asia and South Asia over a years. Many old people encouraged their new generation in to the cock fighting. They also share their opinions to the younger generation from their young age. This leads to the new involvement of the generation to the cock fighting. Some people also involved in cock trade for the game of cock fighting. Government of many nations encouraged the cock fighting with their people. Some people do this cock fight over year to year.

[Blawpaw]

It's awful when in plain XXI Century people still support animal fights. It is even more despicable having someone making money from that. Cock fight is just like a dog fight, it is f%$7&in&/%$/%&$ horrendous. I apologize to tell you but, people who favour this sort of activity should be behind bars for life.
I personally despize people who support animal abuse. I mean, what is wrong with people!? We already enslave animals on industrialized farms. Every day thousands of animals die so that we can eat. Isn't that enough?

Now, animal fights only exist due to the people who place bets, so if you are one of those, I strongly encourage you to refrain from doing so. We have come to a phase in our Human development, where we do not need that sort of savagery anymore. It is not just wars... How the hell are we supposed to build a better world for our children when things like this are not banned?

[Die_empty]

It's awful when in plain XXI Century people still support animal fights. It is even more despicable having someone making money from that. Cock fight is just like a dog fight, it is f%$7&in&/%$/%&$ horrendous. I apologize to tell you but, people who favour this sort of activity should be behind bars for life.
I personally despize people who support animal abuse. I mean, what is wrong with people!? We already enslave animals on industrialized farms. Every day thousands of animals die so that we can eat. Isn't that enough?

Now, animal fights only exist due to the people who place bets, so if you are one of those, I strongly encourage you to refrain from doing so. We have come to a phase in our Human development, where we do not need that sort of savagery anymore. It is not just wars... How the hell are we supposed to build a better world for our children when things like this are not banned?

Animal right or protection only exists in the developed world. Most developing nations don't have sympathy or compassion for animals. Animals are treated as if they don't feel pains or have feeling. I find it very strange that a footballer was criticized and even fined for kicking his cat. While in my locality people starve and even beat their animals with wipe. I feel terribly sorry for animals in my country that I had to adopt a dog that was starving to death out of compassion.
  
But come to think of it, what is the difference between boxing and cockfighting? They are almost the same because they both involve living thing with flesh and blood. We have heard news of boxers or even wrestlers dying in the ring. Do you think all violent sports should be stopped?    

[molsewid]

This was the addiction of my grandparent before and many people here in my county especially during Sundays they all went to nearby cockpit place , imagine that in my place there's a cockpit area instead of Transport Terminal our town prioritize it over other things, for me I do not want to have it in casino, let us all understand that those animals are not being created for them to be thrown in the pit area. Most of them die in the pit, I don't care if people will raise and give them proper food but let them be in their true nature and environment, stop supporting cock fighting, it can ruins animals and people lives as well.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Yes, I have seen series of this type of gambling, but mostly in movies, but that doesnt mean I haven't seen animals fighting in real life, because i have personally witness many, but if I'm opportune to witness any gamebling that involves animal fighting, i dont mind staking my money just for the fun of it especially cock fighting, goat or cow. But in most case, for you to win this kind of gambling, you must have first observed the way the animal fights before staking your money

[TravelMug]

Yes, in our country, I would say that cockfighting specially during the pandemic, is very rampant as you can play it online. But even prior to it, I used to be avid fan or bettors of this cock fight, so yeah I'm more familiar with it and I would say that I win some money in the past.

Of course, there will always be some groups that are going to condemn this kind of games that involved animals specially in the end one of them are killed for the sake of human betting on them and making money. So to each his/her own belief.

[Mahanton]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

For cockfighting then yes, but for ram the no which it would really vary from places because we do have different cultures which means that it might be seen on other places but not on other locations.
For those people who doesnt really like animal cruelty then pretty sure that this type of gambling wont really be something that looks good for them.They would really be totally having no interest
but for some then this type of gambling is really something interesting because you cant really know on whats the outcome.I do have seen that cockfight which is interesting for my part
which there are even sites who do offer online betting for this type of game.

[acroman08]

Can such game be in the casino?

in the Philippines there is an online betting platform called e-sabong but as far as I know, the operation of e-sabong has been stopped by the government, though I still see illegal e-sabong being posted on Facebook.

if you are talking about casinos that cater to international gamblers, I don't think it will. animal fighting has been banned in a lot of countries and if a casino/sportsbook started offering odds for cockfighting they could get backlash from their gamblers.

[Genemind]

It's awful when in plain XXI Century people still support animal fights. It is even more despicable having someone making money from that. Cock fight is just like a dog fight, it is f%$7&in&/%$/%&$ horrendous. I apologize to tell you but, people who favour this sort of activity should be behind bars for life.
I personally despize people who support animal abuse. I mean, what is wrong with people!? We already enslave animals on industrialized farms. Every day thousands of animals die so that we can eat. Isn't that enough?

Now, animal fights only exist due to the people who place bets, so if you are one of those, I strongly encourage you to refrain from doing so. We have come to a phase in our Human development, where we do not need that sort of savagery anymore. It is not just wars... How the hell are we supposed to build a better world for our children when things like this are not banned?

I understand how you feel, I myself am against animal cruelty, however, cock fighting in some countries had been part of their culture. In Philippines, you can see cockpits in different cities. Older men are addicted in cockfighting they sometimes organize it outside the field or even in their own backyard which is actually illegal. I haven't seen ram fight personally, I've seen them hit their heads on tv and didn't imagine that they could end up dying from it. This is just cruel, however, people will utilize anything they can bet on just for fun.

[dothebeats]

I thought Muslims are prohibited to gamble? But anyway, I am not for animal fights. I believe that this should no longer be held as these things have lives like us, and should always be free to roam around and do what they want. If they are killed for nutrition, I guess it's somewhat okay. But we are forcing these guys to go into survival mode which, afterwards they will still be killed if their injuries are so severe that they can no longer walk or do things on their own. We may be breeding chickens, pigs, cows, and whatever livestock you can ever imagine for food, but most of the methods used to slaughter them are often painless in this day and age. Plus, they get to live in an okay condition since they are being fed and whatnot, so raising livestock for food > raising cocks for human entertainment.

[Fortify]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

You have to live in a pretty sick society and be pretty messed up in the head to think that pitting two animals, who would in most situations be reasonably peaceful towards each other, into a fight to the death or serious injury. It's a sadistic mentality and shows how certain countries are stuck in the stone age with a very long road to ever be called civilized. Many other countries stopped doing this many decades or even centuries ago when they began to appreciate life even more, over barbaric short term blood lust. The fact that it is all done in the pursuit of money just makes it even worse and shame on anyone who supports such cruelty to animals, it seems immensely hypocritical and the opposite of how a religious person might claim to be.

[Vaculin]

Yes, in our country, I would say that cockfighting specially during the pandemic, is very rampant as you can play it online. But even prior to it, I used to be avid fan or bettors of this cock fight, so yeah I'm more familiar with it and I would say that I win some money in the past.

Of course, there will always be some groups that are going to condemn this kind of games that involved animals specially in the end one of them are killed for the sake of human betting on them and making money. So to each his/her own belief.

Cockfighting has already evolved a long long time ago. But if we can try to stop it in this new generation, I think that will a lot of help to lengthen the lives not only for those cocks but definitely for those animals who have been fighting each other just to win a bet. For me, it’s more on animal cruelty so it should be encourage to be ban or to stop betting in animals.

[goaldigger]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

There’s already a topic about cockfighting which is also asking for the same question if this kind of gambling can be available in casinos. In my place it is already available in many casinos especially during the pandemic but recently there’s a lot of problem in relation to cockfighting and that’s why our government decided to close those cockfighting site because it violates so many rules. Cockfighting is fun, but you have to choose the best site for this and if you are looking for a crypto gambling site, It is not available yet.

[Viscore]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

I have never been involved in this type of game and have no plans either to get addicted in this type of gambling. Although our ancestors have been seeing fun on this, but let’s face the reality that not all legend games should be carried out to this new era. For me, this animal cruelty should never be encourage and should not be supported by the government, so that those who always go for cockfighting should also learn to stop.

[Bananington]

Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

Betting on this kind of game can be easy to predict by easily judging for the fitness and look of the rams I think, and one thing I am wondering is how is it done that these rams just begin to fight themselves, seems odd. You also said that some of the rams are secretly smuggled to were the ram fight is supposed to take place, how do people who their smuggled rams die in the process handle it.

[Johnyz]

Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

Betting on this kind of game can be easy to predict by easily judging for the fitness and look of the rams I think, and one thing I am wondering is how is it done that these rams just begin to fight themselves, seems odd. You also said that some of the rams are secretly smuggled to were the ram fight is supposed to take place, how do people who their smuggled rams die in the process handle it.

The odds to win here is high because of limited option and honestly there’s a lot of issue when it comes to cockfighting and our own government is working against those illegal activities because it ruin a lot of lives already. In my country cockfighting becomes the trend and personally I tried it before, its addicting and fund at the same time.

[Baofeng]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

Yes, that is right, and even our government support this kind of gambling initially in the pandemic. But there seems to be a problem now, as people involved are getting killed.

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

Thank you for this one, I was not aware of it but seems to be part of your tradition it seems?

It might be secret, but there are also other individuals waiting on the other side for this so I guess it's no secret.

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

I doubt though that it can be a casino because they are not going to make money here, there will be no edge as this is going to be a 50/50 odds. Unless they will have someone to really see who is the favorite and who is not. But very hard to maintain for casino operators. And how can this be programmed online?

And it's going to be difficult and that is why there are really niche for this sports like cock fighting, they have their own arena and the betting happens inside.

[Russlenat]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

I don’t think cockfighting should be more encouraged to be in casinos because it’s another form of animal cruelty. Those who only feed them so they can also fight when they’re mature and good enough, for me that is still not a good practice. That is why I never let myself engross with cockfighting cause i can’t stand on it seeing those two cocks fight for each other just for the people’s greediness for money.

[Stalker22]

I do not know man... I always end up feeling ashamed of the fact that people can treat animals so horribly, especially today I feel really sad when i see some people who just enjoy abusing helpless creatures. How many of you couldn't care a less about animal safety? You should be fucking ashamed of yourselves. Cockfighting is a pathetic blood sport that has no place in a civilized society. It is beyond cruel; it is barbaric. Honestly, there's not an ounce of sport involved in cockfighting – just a bunch of overgrown men yelling at birds to tear each other to death for the entertainment of their fellow sadists. It angers me to no end and it is disgusting that people can support this sort of thing.

[TimeTeller]

I do not know man... I always end up feeling ashamed of the fact that people can treat animals so horribly, especially today I feel really sad when i see some people who just enjoy abusing helpless creatures. How many of you couldn't care a less about animal safety? You should be fucking ashamed of yourselves. Cockfighting is a pathetic blood sport that has no place in a civilized society. It is beyond cruel; it is barbaric. Honestly, there's not an ounce of sport involved in cockfighting – just a bunch of overgrown men yelling at birds to tear each other to death for the entertainment of their fellow sadists. It angers me to no end and it is disgusting that people can support this sort of thing.

Unfortunately, this cockfighting gambling is already part of the culture of some races.
It has been there long time ago and it has not been eradicated in their lifestyle.
If you don't want to be a part of this game, don't bet on this game.
We can't tell people to stop from betting on this game. It is already a culture for these people.
Maybe in the future, people will have a different approach on this game and go digital, much better if they can just devise a digital game for this.

[shogun47]

It's awful when in plain XXI Century people still support animal fights. It is even more despicable having someone making money from that. Cock fight is just like a dog fight, it is f%$7&in&/%$/%&$ horrendous. I apologize to tell you but, people who favour this sort of activity should be behind bars for life.
I personally despize people who support animal abuse. I mean, what is wrong with people!? We already enslave animals on industrialized farms. Every day thousands of animals die so that we can eat. Isn't that enough?

Now, animal fights only exist due to the people who place bets, so if you are one of those, I strongly encourage you to refrain from doing so. We have come to a phase in our Human development, where we do not need that sort of savagery anymore. It is not just wars... How the hell are we supposed to build a better world for our children when things like this are not banned?

Animal right or protection only exists in the developed world. Most developing nations don't have sympathy or compassion for animals. Animals are treated as if they don't feel pains or have feeling. I find it very strange that a footballer was criticized and even fined for kicking his cat. While in my locality people starve and even beat their animals with wipe. I feel terribly sorry for animals in my country that I had to adopt a dog that was starving to death out of compassion.
  
But come to think of it, what is the difference between boxing and cockfighting? They are almost the same because they both involve living thing with flesh and blood. We have heard news of boxers or even wrestlers dying in the ring. Do you think all violent sports should be stopped?    

Lol! Boxing is like cockfighting? The cock can't consciously choose to refrain from fighting. It is forced into a cage and then it is all about live or die. A boxer makes a conscious choice and also isn't equipped with a knife to his hand, but the cock is equipped with razors to his claw. The boxer owns serious money, but what's the reason for the cock other than survival to take on the fight? I wouldn't say I find boxing very attractive, but it's fine for me when people choose that sport for themselves. In the case of the cock it's not the cock himself to make that decision... It's nasty. The same counts for bull fights or dog fights and what else there is.

[lalabotax]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the past, the clock fighting game was very popular in my country and many people did it, both for gambling and just for fun. However, because gambling here is prohibited, this activity is also considered illegal, so this activity is usually carried out in secret. Lots of people make this a cultural game, but basically, it's not. In my opinion, this really hurt cocks. However, Clock Fighting is still going on now and is still one of the favorite gambling activities among the public. Really can't bear to see these cocks hurt and bleeding and they are still being forced to do fighting.

[bisdak40]

Can such game be in the casino?

Cockfighting is such a huge industry in our country that it has its own platform, i mean it doesn't have to be integrated into a casino as it's very complicated to do so. In our country, online cockfighting was legalized during the last administration for the reason that it generates millions of pesos in tax to help the government fund some of the projects.

The legal online cockbetting was stopped because of the complaints of some that this activity has destroyed the financial stature of some families because it was very convenient to bet that if you are not disciplined, you will be broke in the process.

I think online cockbetting is somewhat the same to online casino, bringing huge revenue to the operators of this game.

[darkangel11]

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

So much fun when you have an animal that is supposed to be slaughtered the next day and instead of giving it one last good night before the end you take it out and make it fight for its life, not knowing that this life is going to end anyway, regardless of the outcome of the fight.
I can paint a picture in my mind: a bunch of retards standing in a circle screaming and laughing as animals kill themselves. "Look man it's limping and bleeding! Haha it's gonna die, LOL"
No wonder you guys still live in straw huts if that's your idea of fun.

[Vaskiy]

I've seen it and one of my brother have got good number of cocks being grown for gambling. This can be seen much on Phillipines. In my locality the same is being played on different ways. Some are played directly without involvement of any objects. In few matches, knives were tied to the legs and those really harms each other. Such kind of game is not allowed within the country, but that too takes place.

[Davidvictorson]

In the Philippines cockfighting is a tradition and also livelihood to many people. The way they see it is more fighting more business created more money for the people buy car house beautiful lifestyle means economics much be grow up more buy more create money for business purposes only. If ever it is going to be introduced to the casinos, then it is going to be only in those parts of the world where it is most popular.

[Oceat]

There are main reason why you didn't see cock fighting or ram fighting in a casino and it's just the same as horse racing because they were too big or messy when in the field fighting that's why they have their own arena designed for fighting and racing.

I don't like these kind of game were animals were killing each other while some people were betting on them whether they (animals) live or die as long as they win these gamblers doesn't care at all because all they want is the money. And I think that's why there are people who raised their own cock fighters on their own although the dedication of feeding them with nutritious food cost a lot and it's kinda risky but they still risk because they trust their own because of its breeding.

[goinmerry]

There some been topics made about cockfighting before and I thought this thread will show different information like if there's a crypto-casino that support this game. Unfortunately, I think it's still out of the consideration to be added by most crypto-gambling sites.

Anyways, online cockfighting here is illegal that's why it's not on the topic here in our country anymore.

[uneng]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

I've never engaged in cock fight games. Where I live this tradition doesn't exist, although I have the impression it does exist in another regions of the country, but I'm not interested on it because I think animals don't deserve to be put in such abuse and humiliating situations for the pleasure of the masses. Animals should be well treated and cared till the moment of their death, since they provide us food and the continuity of the herd.

Despite my personal opinion, it's possible to introduce cock fights online through live sessions recorded directly from the arena where those fights happen. Maybe you can already find it on the deep web, although it must be disgusting.

[Issa56]

I can still remember when I was still young, I do sneak out just to watch animals fight most especially ram's, actually my parents are always against it, so whenever am going out I always sneak out, but I haven't used my money money to gamble before whenever am watching the fight, it was always fun but I always feel bad whenever I see any of those animals injured and sometimes some of them die. I think all those fight are not really popular like before any longer.

[Chikito]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

I was imagine when reading this post telling about cock who have men always thinking about sex. Then, after read all comments, all my thing is wrong, it's all about Roster fighting where it's real popular on my country Indonesia especially on village where internet and tv is not going well to access, because of that Roster fighting or Cock fight game is one of their entertainment after farm in the fields. That game is very popular than sports, believe me, every corner on village many of them maintain a roster to be strong.

[Wexnident]

These types of fighting with animals have been a thing in Asia for as long as I can remember. I reckon the most popular one for the young ages would be fighting with spiders, which I never participated in cause I was deathly afraid of them. I sadly don't think it's appropriate for it to be a thing even, I always thought it was a norm when I was a kid but letting me think for myself just brought the idea that it was, well, something wrong.

But come to think of it, what is the difference between boxing and cockfighting? They are almost the same because they both involve living thing with flesh and blood. We have heard news of boxers or even wrestlers dying in the ring. Do you think all violent sports should be stopped?    

I'd say it's consent? I mean, you can't exactly ask for the consent of an animal or identify if it actually understands what it's doing but you get my point. Boxers enter the ring with the idea that they agreed to the fight, animals on the other hand are taken advantage of by using their instinct if I were to pick a term, to force them to fight.

[Poker Player]

It's awful when in plain XXI Century people still support animal fights. It is even more despicable having someone making money from that. Cock fight is just like a dog fight, it is f%$7&in&/%$/%&$ horrendous. I apologize to tell you but, people who favour this sort of activity should be behind bars for life.
I personally despize people who support animal abuse. I mean, what is wrong with people!? We already enslave animals on industrialized farms. Every day thousands of animals die so that we can eat. Isn't that enough?

I was just thinking that it seems to me more typical of primitive times, where it was more understandable that this kind of fights would happen. On the one hand, there were no entertainment options like there are now, and on the other hand, animals were considered as wild beasts without feelings. In addition, societies were generally more violent.

These types of activities have been reduced little by little and I hope that in the future they will disappear completely.

[nakamura12]

I've never been involved on betting my money on animals to make profit but I did watch the animals fight and saw people bet on those fights either an illegal cock fight or not. In the end, all I can say is that I don't know any gambling sites that has cock fight in their platform to bet. Anyway, I only experience placing a bet using real money to a gambling app I downloaded which one of it's game is cock fight and several more. I was lucky during those times where my money is almost triple the amount of money I have twice on different days. The only problem is that it's not an actual cock fight but an actual game with resl money used to bet though many people still play. It is more like dice site or a slot game though I know a person who found a gambling site where you can bet your money and you can also watch the actual fight online very much the same to Live Casino with a live dealer.

[bitzizzix]

How cruel cockfighting is, this is so cruel. The razor sharp blades are attached to the spurs and the cocks face each other and then are released to try and kill each other and it is very violent.
and people are betting on who will be the winner, how anyone could justify doing something like that is beyond me. And the same goes for dogfighting and bullfighting, every blood sport is sickening.
and there are also people who do cockfighting because it has become a culture or as a religious ceremony, but most of it is misused and carried out outside traditional events or the like and it is strictly prohibited and they do it by hiding.
I personally don't like animal fights because I can't stand to see animals that are supposed to be cared for so well, and feel sorry for animals that are helpless and even die in fights.

[BobK71]

I personally don't like animal fights. Because animals are already abused in many ways. Fighting through them to raise money I think can be a part of brutality. When a mace loses its horns or loses its life, how much misery ensues. They can't talk. I have no support for the game played with their life. I think this is also a sin. Humans should be compassionate towards every creature. Although we are constantly killing animals for food. But even worse can be those who gamble through them. I will not blame anyone. However, i just requested to them refrain from such activities.

[Hispo]

Cockfighting is legal in my country and I have an uncle who was very into it. He used to train and bet on his own animals in fights, I never knew how much he used to win, but once he came back home with a quarter of a cow to cook, we all had BBQ for two days.

That being said, I was young and I never understand how much those animals suffered, not only because the "training" they go through but also because the cruelly owners inflict on them. I got a bitter example of it, when my uncle brought one of his roosters back, it has a bad day and it seems that rooster made him lose money, so he took him to the backyard, grabbed his head and killed it by spinning his whole body around his neck as if it was a bag.

It was horrendous.

[electronicash]

cockfighting is usually done in a big space like Arenas or domes. the question whether it can be done in casino is possible but remember that every participants will come and each have his own big cock lol  accidents can happen and so many people died because of the blades they put on the rosters and each of these men wants to see a fair fight. they check each cock before the fight, hold them and perhaps stroke.  

[xSkylarx]

Cockfighting is controversial in other countries because animals are fighting, but here in Asia, it is pretty normal. Though it is legal here, it only applies to those big events like those held in arenas; when it is held in the backyard, it is illegal. A lot of Asians are betting on this as it is fun, but I am still one of those people who doesn't know how to bet on it as they have a lot of abbreviations that I don't know, but when I see people cheering and shouting, I enjoy watching it.

[ethereumhunter]

I don't know whether such a game can exist in casinos or whether it will still be a traditional gambling game because as far as I know, traditional games are only played offline and do not exist in offline casinos. Only a group of people gamble with cockfighting and they also play in secret.

You can find the types of animals used for gambling in traditional gambling places so you probably won't find them in online casinos.

[Dave1]

Although I see horse racing in a traditional land base casino, but it's all based on pure luck and not the ability of the jockey and the horse itself to win that race. It might be the closest to see animals in a casino though.

But for cock fighting it will be very different scenario, and so I don't think it will be viable to create one, in my opinion.

As for the morality of animals being used in sports for gambling, it's debatable, but one thing that we can say is that it is as old as humanity itself.

[joeperry]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

It's not fun actually what makes it fun is when the betting comes. For me, watching them fight is pointless and it would just cause the lives of the roosters but when money comes that's the time it gets interesting to humans. Personally, I am not fan of these kind of games or any related gambling related to animals including horse racing and dog racing.

In the Philippines rooster fighting is legal and they make it online that's why it is now more accessible to most people here than going to the actual cockpit arena.

[Jawhead999]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human

Does it's fun if I put you with someone that you're don't know who is him to fight until there's one is dead? and you're fight without getting any money at all, unlike boxing or MMA which is professional and has a strict rules. Animals is also a living creatures like human, plant, micro organism etc, if you want to hurt animals, you're should get the same too.

Stop playing with animals, it's animals abuse and you can be jailed for this, it's not a joke.

[coinism]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Muslim and gambling? As far as I know gambling is strictly prohibited in Islam and Muslims are not allowed to gamble infact there are many Muslim countries where gambling is not legalised.
Cock fight is very popular in Pakistan and India. Cock spur are sharpened with blads so it can injur the opponent cock. It's animal cruelty and must be banned.

[gunhell16]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Cockfighting is called "SABONG" to us, it is legal in the country where I live, and in addition, it has online apps that can also be downloaded on android phones so that there is no need to go to the cockpit itself.

This is a pastime and vice of gamblers who like to gamble with roosters, and those who are entertained and amused by it are not only ordinary people, even other political officials of the government indulge in it. And when it's the day of the fight of their derby chicken, the bet on their fight is millions.

It's just that what chicken beats it will become a dish at home.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

In Spain they were popular in the past, but their popularity has been declining, as with bullfighting, to the point that they are banned in all but two regions, and in those that are allowed you can't bet, LMAO.

In the end, there are places where illegal fights are held and betting takes place, but in minority and marginal environments.

I imagine that the trend will continue and I hope that in the not too distant future such fights will disappear completely.

[jakelyson]

Cockfighting is called "SABONG" to us, it is legal in the country where I live, and in addition, it has online apps that can also be downloaded on android phones so that there is no need to go to the cockpit itself.

There were online apps but I think E-Sabong is banned by President Duterte. If there are still online sabong operating, they are illegal right now.

Sabong or cock fights are a multi-million industry. From breeding, feeds, multivitamins, vaccines, and gambling. I think casinos can adopt the e-sabong has in the Philippines. It cannot be done here in the Philippines because it is already banned but maybe in other countries.

I have experience of going to the stadium to watch cock fights and it is very exciting. Especially, when it is our chickens that are fighting. The intensity of the people around you when the cocks are released and already fighting is inexplicable. It is very exciting, and I do not think that can be captured in the casino. It is just different when you experience it live.

[Mauser]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

I have never been involved with cock fight and to be honest with you, I can't imagine myself to ever take part in such an event. Maybe it's just different cultures, but to me it feels like animal cruelty to watch 2 animals to fight each other to death and bet money on it. I understand that there is a lot of history involved and people don't want to give up their traditions. Do we really need to watch real animals fight in 2022? Couldn't there be an alternative that is less harmful to animals? I would rather watch and bet money on animals racing than on fighting. It feels a bit like what the sailors did a few hundred years ago with scorpions on the ships. Nothing wrong with people getting together and having a good time while betting money on some events. But if there are animals dying than I don't it could be a mainstream event that could be displayed in casinos. Imagine the public outcry if all the big casinos would start having daily cock fights. There would be a lot of protest by the animal organisations like peta in front of the casinos and media coverage could lead to bad publicity.

[fortunecrypto]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

Here in our country, there are legal and illegal cockfighting those legals are held in stadiums and they pay taxes to the government those that are illegal are done in backyards or remote places where they will not be under the radar of the authorities if caught all involved will be penalized, then the gaming commission here in our country launched an online version but unfortunately, it was stopped because of fixed matches, killing and rigging, the government did the right thing in stopping because there are so many bettors being kidnapped and possibly killed.

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

It's not good to see animals killing each other but there's big money coming from taxes from online cock fighting and it sustain the government's need in times of pandemic and economic recovery, the government and the country are the ones benefitting because it creates jobs and sustains many companies involved in the online cock fighting.

[rahmad2nd]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

In my country, cockfighting is part of the culture in some provinces. even since ancient times, cockfighting gambling has become entertainment even though it's only risking cigarettes. this culture still continues today, it's just that cockfighting is entertainment that is prohibited by the state.

On the other hand, the race of fighting sheep is also one of the cultures that is still preserved today. sheep race, always held almost every year. not infrequently, this pitting is accompanied by betting. we have a very diverse culture with racing animals as part of the entertainment also involves betting. however, in fact both cockfighting and sheep fighting competitions are not allowed to involve betting because of something that is clearly prohibited.

[piebeyb]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Since childhood, I have seen this gambling where in the past, in my country, maybe this gambling is still legal in public spaces, but now they usually play in the forest to avoid the police because this gambling is strictly prohibited. but after growing up I feel sorry for this animal, so it's best to avoid it because besides there is already a ban on gambling like this, BTW if a casino holds gambling like this of course the casino needs to issue NFT for certain chickens to be owned by people and compete directly

[ChiBitCTy]

This is one of those times where I wish theymos would have implemented some sort of de-merit option.  OP, you are a sick twisted fuck and so is every single one of you on this thread that doesn't condone this.  What on earth is wrong with you people?  I know there's cock fighting illegally here in the west, Mexico mostly, but of course much of Mexico is poor and poorly policed.  It happens here in the US but it's beyond secretive because we wouldn't put up with that. If I ever found out about a cock ring, it would be over quickly.  

Why have so many of you eastern world countries taken so long to progress?  Let's be clear, I as an American DO NOT think we are a perfect nation or the best by a long shot or any of that nonsense..but I know we are working on it at least. I mean seriously if you support this go get help for your mental illnesses.  I hope you sick twisted fucks get what you deserve down the road.  

Also, don't give me it's "tradition" or anything like that...progress for the love of god. It is NEVER okay to abuse any living creature.
Treat people and your animals better.  Smh, sub-humans.

Cockfighting is controversial in other countries because animals are fighting, but here in Asia, it is pretty normal. Though it is legal here, it only applies to those big events like those held in arenas; when it is held in the backyard, it is illegal. A lot of Asians are betting on this as it is fun, but I am still one of those people who doesn't know how to bet on it as they have a lot of abbreviations that I don't know, but when I see people cheering and shouting, I enjoy watching it.

"I enjoy watching it" .. you need help you sick pathetic little man.

It's awful when in plain XXI Century people still support animal fights. It is even more despicable having someone making money from that. Cock fight is just like a dog fight, it is f%$7&in&/%$/%&$ horrendous. I apologize to tell you but, people who favour this sort of activity should be behind bars for life.
I personally despize people who support animal abuse. I mean, what is wrong with people!? We already enslave animals on industrialized farms. Every day thousands of animals die so that we can eat. Isn't that enough?

Now, animal fights only exist due to the people who place bets, so if you are one of those, I strongly encourage you to refrain from doing so. We have come to a phase in our Human development, where we do not need that sort of savagery anymore. It is not just wars... How the hell are we supposed to build a better world for our children when things like this are not banned?

I understand how you feel, I myself am against animal cruelty, however, cock fighting in some countries had been part of their culture. In Philippines, you can see cockpits in different cities. Older men are addicted in cockfighting they sometimes organize it outside the field or even in their own backyard which is actually illegal. I haven't seen ram fight personally, I've seen them hit their heads on tv and didn't imagine that they could end up dying from it. This is just cruel, however, people will utilize anything they can bet on just for fun.

You know what was apart of our culture here in the US?  Slavery.  Slavery and lots of rape of those slaves.  I know this is hard for someone so small brained as you to understand, but "part of our culture is NOT an excuse for heinous acts.  There's countless pieces of every culture that have been done away with because as we grow and the world ages, we gain intelligence and start to learn right from wrong more and more.  If you're against it, fight against. Fuck your culture.  



I can't read any more of these sick posts, just know those of you support this are the scum of this earth.  Amazes me how religious the Eastern world is yet you do shit like this.  Surely your religions don't support this (then again religion is often another joke).

[Crypt0Gore]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

I am not sure that this will work in a web 3 gambling world, the reason why such gambling make sense is because the Ram and Cocks are real, physically agile and visible, but bet on games that are build base on computer can't be trusted.

This is why I don't invest in Derace, a horse gambling crypto project, those horses are not real, they are in-game A.I so I can I know which one will be worth gambling on? The dev can easily tampered with the performance since they are the builders.

[Blawpaw]

But come to think of it, what is the difference between boxing and cockfighting? They are almost the same because they both involve living thing with flesh and blood. We have heard news of boxers or even wrestlers dying in the ring. Do you think all violent sports should be stopped?    

Well, for starters, you cannot compare Boxing to cock or dog fighting. Animals do not have a saying and it is not their choice if they want to fight or not. Your phrase is just proof that humans are the most savage animals on the face of the earth. Boxing fighters or any other fighting athlete has a saying and decides to fight or not, animals do not. Besides, fighters earn money, even if they lose while on animals, they are just disposable. This is what makes sick...

[Yatsan]

In Philippines, this is one of the most gambling activity especially to the older individuals wherein those who has capital breeds and 'trains' their cocks for fighting. There are huge bets and are most of the time illegal in our country. But there are registered ofcourse in PAGCOR, for it to be taxed and to operate continuously, if I'm not mistaken. I remember my dad being present in cock fighting house. He almost got caught , lucky for him on being able to jump off the 'fence' LOL. I'd bail him out if incase, just quite funny. I asked him before why he's into it inspite of being at risk of going to jail. He just said that being caught is a part of it. Crazy. But I tried as well betting but thru online platforms only. Money is good if you know how to spot which chicken would win( which is somehow easy for "veterans").

[bitterguy28]

It's awful when in plain XXI Century people still support animal fights. It is even more despicable having someone making money from that. Cock fight is just like a dog fight, it is f%$7&in&/%$/%&$ horrendous. I apologize to tell you but, people who favour this sort of activity should be behind bars for life.
I personally despize people who support animal abuse. I mean, what is wrong with people!? We already enslave animals on industrialized farms. Every day thousands of animals die so that we can eat. Isn't that enough?

Now, animal fights only exist due to the people who place bets, so if you are one of those, I strongly encourage you to refrain from doing so. We have come to a phase in our Human development, where we do not need that sort of savagery anymore. It is not just wars... How the hell are we supposed to build a better world for our children when things like this are not banned?

and yet people still ask if this can added in Online casino , there are thousand of gambling games that we can choose , we cannot even play them all because of lack of time and budget , sometimes we cannot understand some of them why need to seek for animal fight ?
this is cruelty , How I will one Day this people that loves betting in animal fight will be the one who will fight for their lives just to earn money so they may feel how those animal has now.

[o48o]

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This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

No i've not been a part of such fight, nor a dog or a bullfight.

But gambling on animal cruelty? No thanks, we still torture animals here for fun in some parts of europe (fox hunting, bullfights), but we need less animal cruelty, not more. Cock fights are illegal and should stay illegal.

But come to think of it, what is the difference between boxing and cockfighting? They are almost the same because they both involve living thing with flesh and blood. We have heard news of boxers or even wrestlers dying in the ring. Do you think all violent sports should be stopped?    

Humans can destroy each other in a ring while fighting because they consent to do that, animals are not asked if they want to.

So there's a good reason why these things are slowly getting banned. People don't want animals needlessly to get hurt.

[rhomelmabini]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

That is not suppose to be fun but yeah we don't have same perspective so I wouldn't get in the way for that. I use to see these kind of fights even in my younger days and it's still can be seen these days and fairly legal but right now only in the weekends. I think I can't watch other animals that fight to death other than these cocks that was traditional in my area.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

There were online apps but I think E-Sabong is banned by President Duterte. If there are still online sabong operating, they are illegal right now.

Sabong or cock fights are a multi-million industry. From breeding, feeds, multivitamins, vaccines, and gambling. I think casinos can adopt the e-sabong has in the Philippines. It cannot be done here in the Philippines because it is already banned but maybe in other countries.

I have experience of going to the stadium to watch cock fights and it is very exciting. Especially, when it is our chickens that are fighting. The intensity of the people around you when the cocks are released and already fighting is inexplicable. It is very exciting, and I do not think that can be captured in the casino. It is just different when you experience it live.

  -  President Du30 indeed banned E-Sabong, so it's surprising how many Sabong can be downloaded from the play store on our cellphones. It's even being advertised on Facebook and I've even seen it appearing on YouTube ads, meaning it seems to be operating legally under the current administration in the Philippines.

But as you said, there are still many people who are addicted to this gambling game of Sabong, even if we say it is illegal, there are still many people who make and operate it, especially among those who participate, there are many.

[Hypnosis00]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

That is not suppose to be fun but yeah we don't have same perspective so I wouldn't get in the way for that. I use to see these kind of fights even in my younger days and it's still can be seen these days and fairly legal but right now only in the weekends. I think I can't watch other animals that fight to death other than these cocks that was traditional in my area.

The government supports this legal cock fighting in our country and I see that the government is also benefiting from this. It was a widespread gamble, offline and online are also available which means that bettors or gamblers are consistently growing as well. Might in the other country this is not acceptable but for us, in our country - I think this could never be stopped anymore. In fact, many rich people are already involve and putting huge amount of money in this, it considered as their business.

[robelneo]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

It may be cruel but here in our country cocks are not considered pets but livestock that is why the owner of the winning cock cab get the losing and death cock and bring it home to cook and eat, its so popular here in our country that the government money is making money from regulating these cock fighting.

They even arena and a big stadium exclusively for cock fighting because there is big money, like horse raising there is a lot to consider when betting on these cock fighting, like breeding the handlers and the way the cock moves minutes before the fight, it's still a game of luck but if you are an expert on what and how to look you can tell what cock will win.

[Boristhecat]

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This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

It all looks very outdated. At least for me, who has never experienced such events in real life. Maybe in countries where it is a tradition it will remain relevant but in other countries it will definitely not become popular (and legal) as it is cruel entertainment. And to be honest, it’s hard for me to imagine a modern young person who has a smartphone, internet, etc. who will go to watch the rams bumping their foreheads.

[Slow death]

But come to think of it, what is the difference between boxing and cockfighting? They are almost the same because they both involve living thing with flesh and blood. We have heard news of boxers or even wrestlers dying in the ring. Do you think all violent sports should be stopped?

the difference is simple:

boxing = it's two people who think, it's two people who decided on their own to fight, nobody forced them to fight, they alone decided to fight, it's a job that receives salary and has rules to avoid deaths.

Cock fight = rooster is an edible animal, people raise roosters to eat and even when they kill the animal to eat you have to kill him in a way that doesn't cause him suffering, so if you already kill the animal to eat, what's the point to put the animal to fight and suffer against its will? how could that be considered a good thing? honestly people need to have limits, there are boxing fights, MMA and so many sports they can bet on, why do you have to take animals to make them fight and bet on their fight? I can not understand it

and yet people still ask if this can added in Online casino...

I hope that in Curacao they don't support this kind of stuff either because if they don't support this kind of stuff then the casinos that are licensed by Curacao won't add this kind of cruelty either, we don't need to mistreat animals like that in my country It is a crime to do this kind of thing and there is no such thing, mistreating animals is something that should be condemned and criticized. I have seen certain people in my country taking the dog and putting it at home, but then they don't feed it regularly, don't bathe it regularly, don't give it water regularly and don't put the dog in a clean environment. So I ask myself: why do these people take a dog and put it at home when they know they don't have the mental and financial conditions to take care of the dog? when a person doesn't have feelings for animals then they won't have feelings for living people, they'll just pretend they like people, when deep down they don't have feelings

[inthelongrun]

It is very legal in my country and in other countries as well. We even have designated cockfighting arenas for this kind of event in my country. Bets and prize pools range from thousands of dollars to millions because many rich people in my country including our politicians are into cockfighting as well.

I am not fond of this so-called sport. But I have real experiences since I have friends and even relatives that own roosters. Cockfighting is different OP. Our roosters are armed with very sharp blades capable of killing even humans (many died already). The first time I experienced betting on cockfighting was during the pandemic but it was only held in my friend's backyard. I've never seen an actual event held from a cockpit arena.

Personally, I prefer governments stop cockfighting. It isn't a sport because the losing cock has an 80% chance of being killed in action. I consider this an abuse of animals. We kill animals for food but we try to make it quick as possible.

[Saisher]

I hope that in Curacao they don't support this kind of stuff either because if they don't support this kind of stuff then the casinos that are licensed by Curacao won't add this kind of cruelty either, we don't need to mistreat animals like that in my country It is a crime to do this kind of thing and there is no such thing, mistreating animals is something that should be condemned and criticized. I have seen certain people in my country taking the dog and putting it at home, but then they don't feed it regularly, don't bathe it regularly, don't give it water regularly and don't put the dog in a clean environment. So I ask myself: why do these people take a dog and put it at home when they know they don't have the mental and financial conditions to take care of the dog? when a person doesn't have feelings for animals then they won't have feelings for living people, they'll just pretend they like people, when deep down they don't have feelings

Cockfighting is very popular here in our country and I have a lot of friends who are very much into this, they do this out of passion and for them to make money, you will surprise how they spend money just to get their cocks to fit in a fight, I just notice that some of the cock owners are dog lovers or cat lover but they don't treat cocks as a pet they treat it as livestock that is ready for consumption, so when they go to the cockpit arena and lose, they are not sorry for the cock they are sorry for the money they loss
because you can eat chicken every day and you are fine with it but you can not eat dog every day and be fine with it.

[Jemzx00]

It's awful when in plain XXI Century people still support animal fights. It is even more despicable having someone making money from that. Cock fight is just like a dog fight, it is f%$7&in&/%$/%&$ horrendous. I apologize to tell you but, people who favour this sort of activity should be behind bars for life.
I personally despize people who support animal abuse. I mean, what is wrong with people!? We already enslave animals on industrialized farms. Every day thousands of animals die so that we can eat. Isn't that enough?

Now, animal fights only exist due to the people who place bets, so if you are one of those, I strongly encourage you to refrain from doing so. We have come to a phase in our Human development, where we do not need that sort of savagery anymore. It is not just wars... How the hell are we supposed to build a better world for our children when things like this are not banned?

Agreed, you're right about how horrendous these kinds of activities are especially since times have already changed and this should be avoided as much as possible however these activities are part of the culture of these countries which makes it hard to stop. I'm from a country where cock fighting is too common where you may see it in any place you visit and unfortunately, it some people are against it, they can't stop it as it is already a part of our culture, and it is a common activity on most festivals on provincial part of my country.

Also, this can be said for other animal activities in other countries such as Bull Riding and Horse Race where animals are used to compete with each other or subjected to a stressful environment which are also common cultural activities in those countries.

[roslinpl]

Cock fight is very similar one to the boxing, the only difference is using of cock instead of human being. It was the traditional one used by our ancestors. Cock which had Olsen was killed and used for the dinner. But this was different in human being. They will do the revenge outside the game. Because they will feel bad and try to take revenge against the winning person. With this boxers will get bulk some amounts as the payment in each fight. If the boxer further involved in the gambling, they will earn double or triple of their salary. With that money, they can start the business and settle in different way apart from the fighting. Because he can’t fight till his death.

[Doell]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before.

In some areas I've watched cockfights and rams gambling, even mole cricket gambling, yes fun but sometimes I sad they are in cattle just to fight. I think his type of game can only be enjoyed on live, if the gambler at home and not present I think there is no fun feeling. But to be honest I don't like this type animals gambling, there are no challenge with high odds.

[Oasisman]

It's awful when in plain XXI Century people still support animal fights. It is even more despicable having someone making money from that. Cock fight is just like a dog fight, it is f%$7&in&/%$/%&$ horrendous. I apologize to tell you but, people who favour this sort of activity should be behind bars for life.
I personally despize people who support animal abuse. I mean, what is wrong with people!? We already enslave animals on industrialized farms. Every day thousands of animals die so that we can eat. Isn't that enough?

Now, animal fights only exist due to the people who place bets, so if you are one of those, I strongly encourage you to refrain from doing so. We have come to a phase in our Human development, where we do not need that sort of savagery anymore. It is not just wars... How the hell are we supposed to build a better world for our children when things like this are not banned?

Sad to say but it's a culture. There are always certain things that you find it inhumane in your own culture, but not for the others. I live in a country where it has a wide influence, but I didn't, even once support this kind of activities as I also find this disgusting and it's clearly a form of animal cruelty. But then again, this was a culture passed into many generations in this country and that's obviously the reason why the law enforcement can do nothing about it that even the authorities is issuing a permit for this kind of activity to operate legally.

[bittraffic]

It's awful when in plain XXI Century people still support animal fights. It is even more despicable having someone making money from that. Cock fight is just like a dog fight, it is f%$7&in&/%$/%&$ horrendous. I apologize to tell you but, people who favour this sort of activity should be behind bars for life.
I personally despize people who support animal abuse. I mean, what is wrong with people!? We already enslave animals on industrialized farms. Every day thousands of animals die so that we can eat. Isn't that enough?

Now, animal fights only exist due to the people who place bets, so if you are one of those, I strongly encourage you to refrain from doing so. We have come to a phase in our Human development, where we do not need that sort of savagery anymore. It is not just wars... How the hell are we supposed to build a better world for our children when things like this are not banned?

Agreed, you're right about how horrendous these kinds of activities are especially since times have already changed and this should be avoided as much as possible however these activities are part of the culture of these countries which makes it hard to stop. I'm from a country where cock fighting is too common where you may see it in any place you visit and unfortunately, it some people are against it, they can't stop it as it is already a part of our culture, and it is a common activity on most festivals on provincial part of my country.

Also, this can be said for other animal activities in other countries such as Bull Riding and Horse Race where animals are used to compete with each other or subjected to a stressful environment which are also common cultural activities in those countries.

Except rosters fight all the time even if they are not matched by people. When you put 2 cocks in one square meter, chances is that they will fight to death. There is no protest against this kind of gambling. This is a culture for countries in Asia. Besides rosters/chickens is not an endaganred species. Unlike dogfights, the Animal welfare society will be rallying for justice for these pets.

Did you know that they eat these chickens when they die in the fight?  Well, that's what they said in the youtube comments. 

[pawanjain]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Even I have heard this game being played in my country as well. Although I am not sure if it is still being played but I have seen it movies.
People form a circle within which two cocks will be fighting and players would bet on the cocks.

I hope that in Curacao they don't support this kind of stuff either because if they don't support this kind of stuff then the casinos that are licensed by Curacao won't add this kind of cruelty either, we don't need to mistreat animals like that in my country It is a crime to do this kind of thing and there is no such thing, mistreating animals is something that should be condemned and criticized. I have seen certain people in my country taking the dog and putting it at home, but then they don't feed it regularly, don't bathe it regularly, don't give it water regularly and don't put the dog in a clean environment. So I ask myself: why do these people take a dog and put it at home when they know they don't have the mental and financial conditions to take care of the dog? when a person doesn't have feelings for animals then they won't have feelings for living people, they'll just pretend they like people, when deep down they don't have feelings

Even I feel the same but then whats your thought when people actually eat them.
I mean there are so many people who eat chicken. Aren't they responsible for their murders ?
I am not taking any sides but when we think about animal cruelty in gambling we should also think about animal slaughtering for food.

[Cling18]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before.

In some areas I've watched cockfights and rams gambling, even mole cricket gambling, yes fun but sometimes I sad they are in cattle just to fight. I think his type of game can only be enjoyed on live, if the gambler at home and not present I think there is no fun feeling. But to be honest I don't like this type animals gambling, there are no challenges with high odds.

A cockfight is a normal gambling game in our country. It's legal but the event creator needs to get a government permit before running the game. It's awful and heartbreaking to see animals being used in gambling but if it's already a part of the culture, we'll only see it as a normal thing. It's sad to see how animals suffer for the satisfaction of men but we can't do anything about it.

[danherbias07]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Cock fighting is popular here in the Philippines. My father even have 3 roosters that he is taking care of when he was still young. Sometimes, I will be the one buying their chicken feeds and I will also be the one to feed them. That was also the first time I saw how they take "care" of them.
The word "care" should be emphasized because they are exaggerating it.
From the right food, the right place (should be soil), vitamins to make them agile and stronger, and the training where they put like boxing gloves in the feet of a rooster. It's a good blood sport but also time-consuming and one fight could make you lose all your money. It's like training a boxer.

It can be in a casino but only like a PPV, live betting before the game starts. The actual fight will be in another place.

[crwth]

I think everybody here is already aware of what cockfighting is and probably has some experience with it, whether it's with the following

• Computer games
• Actual observation of cockfighting
• Online gambling through video

That's how they are participating in this day and age. I think a lot of people have lost a lot of money and had to be banned to prevent those who cannot control their gambling intentions. Lol.

[seoincorporation]

I have Cock fight in my country too, and I feel are too violent... I mean, putting a knife on the animal's foot and watching how they kill each other is not my favorite way to win a bet. And I think that's the main reason for the banning of this activity in some countries.

I like other ways to betting where no one has to die at the end of the match. But if it's part of the culture there is no other option than respect it.

[Maestro75]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins.

Cock fighting is animal cruelty. Not only it, every form of animal fight set up by man for the pleasure of gambling or not is animal cruelty and should be condemned. It is like setting up toddlers or teenagers to fight so you can catch some fun or make money from their pain.

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It is a common practice in Nigeria, among the Yoruba Muslims. Am not sure the Hausa Muslims do that. Another sad thing here is that Muslims condemn gambling just like Christians too but why engage animals for sacrifice in gambling? It is pretence of hiding to do what you condemn openly.

You will feel it is fun because you are not the one in the fight. Imagine being forced by a superior authority to fight another against your will. How will you feel? Will it also be fun?

[gantez]

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting  

This is not funny to be proud to make helpless animal to kill themselves. This act is barbaric thing to keep doing this age of time. This kind of suicide should be a crime. I have hear of some adverts on the television announcing against the killing of animals in the bush that soon the world won't have animals to inhabiting the bush and this part of the reason for game reserve and other protection for animal kingdom, so why kill them by ourselves. We don't have to making animal go through pain.

and some rams will lose their horns.

And be rejected because blood left out of the body or incomplete, so why we do this ? And you bring to dr. Paul. Not good to do against animal.

We needing more animal doctors to take care of them to avoiding extinction.

Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

A whole of selfish reason for the fighting. Condemn it not good .

[Marykeller]

I grow up in a society where there is nothing like cock fighting gambling exist. What we typically observe is two local cocks squabbling over territory or which cock will rule the hens in a particular area (which is a normal thing where fowls are).

I hate the sight of cockfights, so betting on them is not in my nature. Who will benefit from watching two cocks fight to the death, I wonder. It is incredibly depressing that some people enjoy watching animals fight to the death.

[BobK71]

I grow up in a society where there is nothing like cock fighting gambling exist. What we typically observe is two local cocks squabbling over territory or which cock will rule the hens in a particular area (which is a normal thing where fowls are).

I hate the sight of cockfights, so betting on them is not in my nature. Who will benefit from watching two cocks fight to the death, I wonder. It is incredibly depressing that some people enjoy watching animals fight to the death.

Normally we can see the cock fight when one another cock in its place. I think that fight could be a pleasure for some one those who can see. But artificially arranging two cocks and make them quarreling that can never be auspicious. Just as war brings destruction, this fight can cause damage among the animals. The biggest thing is that people have begun to look at it as part or tool of gambling, which is never desirable.

[lionheart78]

But come to think of it, what is the difference between boxing and cockfighting? They are almost the same because they both involve living thing with flesh and blood. We have heard news of boxers or even wrestlers dying in the ring. Do you think all violent sports should be stopped?    

The difference between cockfighting and boxing is too evident.   Cock doesn't choose to be in the cockfighting arena, they were raised and nourished to fight their opponent to death while boxing is way different because boxers choose to be a boxer and get the reward themselves when they win.  It is the freedom to choose which makes this to entertainment differs.  Another thing, in cockfighting, fighting cock are given a blade that is tied to the leg to deliver a fatal blow to their opponent while in Boxing, a boxer is given padded gloves to lessen the impact and lessen the risk of a fatal blow.  Though accident happens it is not the intention of the entertainment in boxing but in cockfighting.

Still, I do not condone this kind of animal abuse.  I am also disgusted with this kind of entertainment and I hope to see people doing this kind of thing to profit be jailed.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

There is no fun in seeing an animal die or got injured because of people having fun.  Just place yourself in their stead, do you think it is funny?

[Kasabus]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

That is not suppose to be fun but yeah we don't have same perspective so I wouldn't get in the way for that. I use to see these kind of fights even in my younger days and it's still can be seen these days and fairly legal but right now only in the weekends. I think I can't watch other animals that fight to death other than these cocks that was traditional in my area.

Everything is not supposed to be fun if we are talking about letting these animals fight with each other because in the first place, they aren't existing in this Earth to be like that but for the sake of tradition purposes and everything, we should just learn to accept the fact that it will be hard if we will go against it.

It will take us decades and decades before we can even take some huge leap regarding this exhibition fights. Especially if you're born to an Asian country, it's likely that these kinds of fights will be introduced to you at an early age. Anyway, if these kinds of fights will be listed in casinos, then for sure there will be a lot of bettors who will test their luck on this kind of fight.

[noormcs5]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

I don’t think cockfighting should be more encouraged to be in casinos because it’s another form of animal cruelty. Those who only feed them so they can also fight when they’re mature and good enough, for me that is still not a good practice. That is why I never let myself engross with cockfighting cause i can’t stand on it seeing those two cocks fight for each other just for the people’s greediness for money.

I don't believe anyone could play and then bet on cock fight games only to get money from the game and then bet on it.

Of course, gamblers would say that they are not involved in the game, they only bet on the game which is not initiated by them. I agree with this portion of the argument but gamblers should show protest for this game and do not bet on it. This will give a message to those cock fighters that their game is not liked by gamblers around the world.

[Balmain]

I agree with a little more despair when I see people who are still willing to make animals fight in today's age for people to make money. Humans fight for their own choices, but animals have no choice and are completely tortured. I saw the message of many people who wanted to watch this here, and I can say that I'm sorry. I am not an animal rights advocate, but no animal deserves this. With so many game options for gamble, stay away from the animals.

[OgNasty]

I‘ve wondered why this sort of thing hasn’t become reality with the internet and crypto. It’s probably a good thing as this sort of inhumane behavior would likely lead to protests. However, I once thought it might be cool to have a crypto gambling site where users could bet on fish fights between Japanese fighting fish, but again, a bit inhumane even if fish are a little less evil due to them not feeling pain. This sort of thing could only bring negativity to Bitcoin, so it’s probably best it doesn’t exist.

[rhomelmabini]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

That is not suppose to be fun but yeah we don't have same perspective so I wouldn't get in the way for that. I use to see these kind of fights even in my younger days and it's still can be seen these days and fairly legal but right now only in the weekends. I think I can't watch other animals that fight to death other than these cocks that was traditional in my area.

Everything is not supposed to be fun if we are talking about letting these animals fight with each other because in the first place, they aren't existing in this Earth to be like that but for the sake of tradition purposes and everything, we should just learn to accept the fact that it will be hard if we will go against it.

It will take us decades and decades before we can even take some huge leap regarding this exhibition fights. Especially if you're born to an Asian country, it's likely that these kinds of fights will be introduced to you at an early age. Anyway, if these kinds of fights will be listed in casinos, then for sure there will be a lot of bettors who will test their luck on this kind of fight.

Yeah, they don't deserve this kind of treatment just because they are animals and can't be heard what they actually feels. I am in support to end these kind of traditions worldwide but to fully embrace that they aren't born to be fighter or some sort will really take years to fully educate us. I have doubts that it will be listed in a casino though.

[serjent05]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

I experienced raising a fowl and later on have it on cockfighting.  Although I won, I feel very much sorry for what happened to my rooster.  After that incident I never get involved in cockfighting again.  I never understand why people are having fun watching these animals killing each other.   It is a barbaric thing for me.

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

I thought gambling is forbidden in Muslim countries and yet these Muslim people are enjoying how these rams fight each other while betting on which one will be victorious.  Isn't the authority doing anything to prevent this kind of gambling activity?  If they allow this then it is funny to think that they banned gambling that doesn't involve sacrifices of animals while they allow this kind of gambling that is too cruel to animals.  

I‘ve wondered why this sort of thing hasn’t become reality with the internet and crypto. It’s probably a good thing as this sort of inhumane behavior would likely lead to protests. However, I once thought it might be cool to have a crypto gambling site where users could bet on fish fights between Japanese fighting fish, but again, a bit inhumane even if fish are a little less evil due to them not feeling pain. This sort of thing could only bring negativity to Bitcoin, so it’s probably best it doesn’t exist.

With the advancement of technology, why use a live sample when the technology can emulate the event?  I think gambling that involve animal fighting can be digitized, emulating and simulating things.  I think horse racing is already simulated so why not create a simulation of cockfighting, horse fighting, fish fighting, ram fighting...  Breeding and raising can be simulated too, since Tamagotchi app if anyone remember has been around for many years.  This way, people can still have the fun of raising and challenging others pet but in digital world, and prevent real animal losses or injury.

[Stalker22]

The reality is that these animals are treated as nothing more than commodities for gambling, entertainment and profit, and the suffering of the animals is completely ignored. Cockfighting is a cruel and inhumane practice that should not be tolerated by anyone, especially those who consider themselves to be humane and compassionate people. In fact, the National Geographic Society reports that cockfighting is one of the most common forms of illegal animal abuse in the world. The birds are bred, raised and trained solely for the purpose of being forced to fight each other in a bloody display for human entertainment. It is especially disturbing that some parents make such events family affairs, bringing their children along to witness these cockfight events and even celebrate the suffering of animals. In addition to being an inhumane practice, cockfighting is also illegal in many countries around the world. There are penalties for those who participate in such events, including fines and jail time. However, despite the laws against cockfighting and other forms of animal abuse, these cruel practices continue to thrive in some parts of the world, mostly third world countries.

[Jating]

I‘ve wondered why this sort of thing hasn’t become reality with the internet and crypto. It’s probably a good thing as this sort of inhumane behavior would likely lead to protests. However, I once thought it might be cool to have a crypto gambling site where users could bet on fish fights between Japanese fighting fish, but again, a bit inhumane even if fish are a little less evil due to them not feeling pain. This sort of thing could only bring negativity to Bitcoin, so it’s probably best it doesn’t exist.

Probably but it is thriving on fiat system, specially cockfighting, it's famous in Asia, events are online, gamblers bet. So I don't think it will make any difference or negativity to bitcoin and crypto.

Again, it really up to the society or the government to whether think this is inhumane behavior or not. And if you are a gambler but then are against this kind of cruelty, then just skip it at all.

[boyptc]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

It's not fun at all because you don't have to see them fighting until one of them dies just to have a winner. I understand that it is gambling, it is better to stay in casino games and sports betting if you're starting to feel entertained and fun with any gambling that needs an animal to participant.

I feel pity when there's the fight and the other rooster has to die because of those slashes.

And at the same time, the other goes the same way of dying but has just been declared to be the winner first because he lived longer than the first to die.

[bitcampaign]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

almost every day I see cockfighting in front of my house because my grandmother has a chicken farm at my house, so I will always see it but not with gambling cockfighting, even if there is one, I only see it in movies or on television seeing the police doing arrest of gambling cockfighting or other animals, but it seems interesting if there is a casino about cockfighting

[coin-investor]

I‘ve wondered why this sort of thing hasn’t become reality with the internet and crypto. It’s probably a good thing as this sort of inhumane behavior would likely lead to protests. However, I once thought it might be cool to have a crypto gambling site where users could bet on fish fights between Japanese fighting fish, but again, a bit inhumane even if fish are a little less evil due to them not feeling pain. This sort of thing could only bring negativity to Bitcoin, so it’s probably best it doesn’t exist.

Our country used to have an online live cockfight and it was so popular there are so many outlets and both the operators and the government is making a lot of money, it's making millions of pesos for the government and billions for the operators, and it's generating a lot of jobs and industry it was considered a lifesaver for so many people in times of pandemic.

Until the industry became so corrupt that there was game fixing that results in kidnapping and killing that the government have to stop the operation, they have no choice but to do that, because of this cock fighting so many humans are sacrificed

[Taskford]

I‘ve wondered why this sort of thing hasn’t become reality with the internet and crypto. It’s probably a good thing as this sort of inhumane behavior would likely lead to protests. However, I once thought it might be cool to have a crypto gambling site where users could bet on fish fights between Japanese fighting fish, but again, a bit inhumane even if fish are a little less evil due to them not feeling pain. This sort of thing could only bring negativity to Bitcoin, so it’s probably best it doesn’t exist.

Until the industry became so corrupt that there was game fixing that results in kidnapping and killing that the government have to stop the operation, they have no choice but to do that, because of this cock fighting so many humans are sacrificed

Good thing it stop because cockfighting doesn't do anything good to people since for what we see in local news it all cost to much damage to people who's betting on cock fighting. And look what happen government can live without it also it seems that crimes or violence news related with such incidents are been low because government already ban the source.

[KennyR]

I‘ve wondered why this sort of thing hasn’t become reality with the internet and crypto. It’s probably a good thing as this sort of inhumane behavior would likely lead to protests. However, I once thought it might be cool to have a crypto gambling site where users could bet on fish fights between Japanese fighting fish, but again, a bit inhumane even if fish are a little less evil due to them not feeling pain. This sort of thing could only bring negativity to Bitcoin, so it’s probably best it doesn’t exist.

Until the industry became so corrupt that there was game fixing that results in kidnapping and killing that the government have to stop the operation, they have no choice but to do that, because of this cock fighting so many humans are sacrificed

Good thing it stop because cockfighting doesn't do anything good to people since for what we see in local news it all cost to much damage to people who's betting on cock fighting. And look what happen government can live without it also it seems that crimes or violence news related with such incidents are been low because government already ban the source.

Cock fight have turned to be a big industry. Government too doesn't take it into account about the problems that have arose within the people's life. Once after reading the thread saw a documentary in which a person is completely into cock fight where his survival is dependent over it. He earns out of collecting some previous things from the forest sells it and gamble. If it gets good return it would be his day, else he stays without having food for the day.

[qwertyup23]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Oh yes definitely! In fact, my grandfather used to have a farm dedicated in raising cockfighters as he used to participate in competitions in Araneta. Then, his fight would be televised on national television, along with other cockfighters as well. I remember in our farm, we also have this ring in the middle where these chickens would be put to the test and for training. The funny thing is, if my grandfather believes that if a chicken in his match won, then he has all the genes of a fighter. So, he would devote time raising the offspring of such.

When my grandfather passed away, my father took over of the farm and raised some chickens as well for this kind of fight. I used to accompany my dad in tournaments and the betting environment there is notorious and fierce! I will never forget those memories and this kind of gambling, while others argue may be cruel, as it has a special place in my heart.

[Silberman]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

I am not really that fond of events like this, and my reasoning is that while a human can decide whether they want to fight against another person for monetary gain, as it happens in boxing, MMA and other fighting sports, animals do not really have this choice, if their owner has decided they want them to fight then they must fight, so they are being forced into an activity that may cost them their life against their will, so I prefer to not participate on any bet that has anything to do with something similar.

[alegotardo]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

I've seen about it on Youtube, but it's not something I like.
In fact, this kind of "sport or leisure" is prohibited in my country... thank goodness.

I won't criticize, because each country has its customs and what is abhorrent in one place is considered completely normal in another, not only in this situation but in several aspects, mainly when it comes to food.

However, I believe that no animal should suffer to provide any kind of "pleasure" to humans, whether in cockfights, hunting, bullfighting or any other event that causes the suffering of an animal.
With all due respect, I would never bet on such a "sport".

[aioc]

I‘ve wondered why this sort of thing hasn’t become reality with the internet and crypto. It’s probably a good thing as this sort of inhumane behavior would likely lead to protests. However, I once thought it might be cool to have a crypto gambling site where users could bet on fish fights between Japanese fighting fish, but again, a bit inhumane even if fish are a little less evil due to them not feeling pain. This sort of thing could only bring negativity to Bitcoin, so it’s probably best it doesn’t exist.

Until the industry became so corrupt that there was game fixing that results in kidnapping and killing that the government have to stop the operation, they have no choice but to do that, because of this cock fighting so many humans are sacrificed

Good thing it stop because cockfighting doesn't do anything good to people since for what we see in local news it all cost to much damage to people who's betting on cock fighting. And look what happen government can live without it also it seems that crimes or violence news related with such incidents are been low because government already ban the source.

FYI only the online version was stopped there is still cockfighting in stadiums and specialized cockpit arenas, its a tradition for many countries and so instead of totally banning it, governments just regulate it so they can make money out of it, it's hard to fight tradition, only on a total communist country can they stop tradition, it may look cruelty to animals but these gamblers don't see it that way they only want to make money and they will just eventually cook the chicken who loss in the match.

[lienfaye]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Well, for me animal fighting is not fun and should not be use as tool for gambling. But if it's not prohibited by the Government, these people won't stop using animal, because as you've said it's fun for those who are engaging themselves in this kind of activity. Anyway, in our country, cock fighting is quite popular especially here in our place. Many men elders are taking care of rooster as business (they sell it when ready) or use it for fighting for their own satisfaction. We have an arena where cock fighting is held, it's legal. Recently they even had a promotion called "fastest kill" and the prize is $600 plus a brand new motorcycle.

[ChiBitCTy]

I‘ve wondered why this sort of thing hasn’t become reality with the internet and crypto. It’s probably a good thing as this sort of inhumane behavior would likely lead to protests. However, I once thought it might be cool to have a crypto gambling site where users could bet on fish fights between Japanese fighting fish, but again, a bit inhumane even if fish are a little less evil due to them not feeling pain. This sort of thing could only bring negativity to Bitcoin, so it’s probably best it doesn’t exist.

Probably but it is thriving on fiat system, specially cockfighting, it's famous in Asia, events are online, gamblers bet. So I don't think it will make any difference or negativity to bitcoin and crypto.

Again, it really up to the society or the government to whether think this is inhumane behavior or not. And if you are a gambler but then are against this kind of cruelty, then just skip it at all.

It’s not up to anyone to decide, there is no decision to be made. Animal fighting of any kind is 100% wrong and unacceptable. I can’t believe some of you are here are willing to justify it as okay, or part of your society/tradition etc.

Culture doesn’t = right.  Take a look at Iran right now. Forcing women to wear certain clothes and do certain things had long been considered “tradition”. Now many Iranians have woken up and realized how utterly ridiculous it is and how wrong it is to not allow for freedom and equal rights.

Sadly so many of you here on this forum have been raised by brainwashing. You weren’t given the chance or education that’s open and free, but rather taught to do and think exactly as you’re told (normally enforced through the words of your scripture, which is of course often taken out of context and used as a weapon of control). The movie “the book of Eli” does an excellent job of showing how this works.


STOP PROMOTING THE TORTURE OF INNOCENT ANIMALS YOU SICK FUCKS (thank you to those who understand right from wrong).

[Mr. Magkaisa]

It’s not up to anyone to decide, there is no decision to be made. Animal fighting of any kind is 100% wrong and unacceptable. I can’t believe some of you are here are willing to justify it as okay, or part of your society/tradition etc.

Culture doesn’t = right.  Take a look at Iran right now. Forcing women to wear certain clothes and do certain things had long been considered “tradition”. Now many Iranians have woken up and realized how utterly ridiculous it is and how wrong it is to not allow for freedom and equal rights.

Sadly so many of you here on this forum have been raised by brainwashing. You weren’t given the chance or education that’s open and free, but rather taught to do and think exactly as you’re told (normally enforced through the words of your scripture, which is of course often taken out of context and used as a weapon of control). The movie “the book of Eli” does an excellent job of showing how this works.


STOP PROMOTING THE TORTURE OF INNOCENT ANIMALS YOU SICK FUCKS (thank you to those who understand right from wrong).

  -  You know I get what you want to convey here, it's just that we can't do anything if there is a tradition that other countries follow. When it comes to things like this.

I then remembered, apart from cockfighting that takes place in different countries, there is also bullfighting that takes place in other parts of the world, and there is also dog fighting (Pitbull) which causes gamblers to bet though it's just that if you look at these animals it's also pathetic after the fight, to expect someone who won't survive for sure.

[redsun114]

I have Cock fight in my country too, and I feel are too violent... I mean, putting a knife on the animal's foot and watching how they kill each other is not my favorite way to win a bet. And I think that's the main reason for the banning of this activity in some countries.

I like other ways to betting where no one has to die at the end of the match. But if it's part of the culture there is no other option than respect it.

I guess you are living on one of the Asian countries because this kind of activities are very common there especially when there are town festivals. There will always be a schedule for the cock fights but it's strange on why you are not used to it. You didn't watch it often even when you are still a kid?

But, if you think about it, we also kill chickens using sharp knives because they are a source of food therefore we should not worry about it. There are countries that banned it because are not used to it and they are also not allowing gambling in their country. You still have a good personality because you don't like someone that gets hurt it. May god bless you more for that.

[michellee]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Well, for me animal fighting is not fun and should not be use as tool for gambling. But if it's not prohibited by the Government, these people won't stop using animal, because as you've said it's fun for those who are engaging themselves in this kind of activity. Anyway, in our country, cock fighting is quite popular especially here in our place. Many men elders are taking care of rooster as business (they sell it when ready) or use it for fighting for their own satisfaction. We have an arena where cock fighting is held, it's legal. Recently they even had a promotion called "fastest kill" and the prize is $600 plus a brand new motorcycle.

To me, that's also unpleasant because it's the same as us torturing animals to satisfy our desires and hopefully, that's outlawed by every government. You may gamble and use any media but don't use animals. However, gambling with animals still occurs in some Asian countries and they can gamble in hidden places. The government has noticed this and banned gambling with animals, but there seems to be some community in some areas that cannot detect it easily. This requires more effort from the government to make its citizens aware that those who gamble using animals have abused these animals.

[piebeyb]

I have Cock fight in my country too, and I feel are too violent... I mean, putting a knife on the animal's foot and watching how they kill each other is not my favorite way to win a bet. And I think that's the main reason for the banning of this activity in some countries.

I like other ways to betting where no one has to die at the end of the match. But if it's part of the culture there is no other option than respect it.

I guess you are living on one of the Asian countries because this kind of activities are very common there especially when there are town festivals. There will always be a schedule for the cock fights but it's strange on why you are not used to it. You didn't watch it often even when you are still a kid?

But, if you think about it, we also kill chickens using sharp knives because they are a source of food therefore we should not worry about it. There are countries that banned it because are not used to it and they are also not allowing gambling in their country. You still have a good personality because you don't like someone that gets hurt it. May god bless you more for that.

it's actually easy if you don't want any animals to die or be killed in gambling as the OP wrote in the thread that is it possible that it will be added in the casino I think it looks like you can that is using a kind of NFT collection of chickens with various versions and qualities of the chickens themselves so that they can fight each other with chicken NFT owners from other users 

[Luzin]

it's actually easy if you don't want any animals to die or be killed in gambling as the OP wrote in the thread that is it possible that it will be added in the casino I think it looks like you can that is using a kind of NFT collection of chickens with various versions and qualities of the chickens themselves so that they can fight each other with chicken NFT owners from other users 

Good idea, indeed my country there are still some people who do gambling with fighting chickens. But I'm not sure they'll switch to this model. The reason is that they don't understand technologies like NFTs. Need introduction or socialization. They prefer cash to be received directly without intermediaries.
Maybe for gamblers who are tech-savvy it would be a good solution. But for traditional people, it seems that they don't want to know and learn.

[Strongkored]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Seeing animals fighting around us is not fun especially gambling on this type of game. I know that there are many types of games where gamblers bet on animal fighting and this is famous in developing countries or the third world, but in developed countries it will be difficult to find it because they protect animals so much.
This type of gambling also exists in my country but it is done but private acsess because it is illegal even though gamblers can still play it in various ways, for example playing in hidden places and gamblers who come have been filtered first in various ways.
If I had the opportunity to join that gambling community, I would still prefer not to take part in betting and even want to watch it, unless it's just online gambling where the animals that are fighting are only in virtual form, not real animals that can injure one another.

[BobK71]

If such a game is viewed for passion then it gets some acceptability but when such game is organized for gambling it loses its acceptability completely. Not just cockfighting. In my opinion, none of the animal in the world should be encouraged by gambling to play such a combative game. Moreover, I do not believe that there is any precedent in any religion to accept such a thing. If someone is regularly immersed in such activities then it is everyone's responsibility to bring him back.

[gantez]

If such a game is viewed for passion then it gets some acceptability but when such game is organized for gambling it loses its acceptability completely.

No one should be encouraged by human both for passion or organized for gambling. Human make laws for themself against fighting, body harm by the other person or killing of human that people charge offender to court for redress and to punish. How can human now to organise animal fighting for fun, passion or gambling and they can understand the pain of the fight to the body. That act of human is now barbaric to do, it is cutting the life of animals short and untimely.

[m2017]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

There are numerous gambling and betting competitions without animal cruelty. I would prefer it better. In such games of chance, which OP is talking about, a person doesn't even directly touch animals, but creates such conditions in which animals cripple each other. Above you give such examples. I would not want to participate or even watch such games. I'm sorry, but I don't like this. I doubt that such games will be included in the casino. In offline casinos, they definitely won’t. I can't imagine that in a casino building that looks like a palace they will create an enclosure for cockfights or ramfights, where spectators will stand around. It seems to me that these are completely different types of gambling, in no way compatible and from different worlds.

[YOSHIE]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Gambling on chickens, sheep, buffalo, crickets and so on, this is a traditional type of game/gambling, not all countries are legal for this gambling, many Muslim-majority countries prohibit this type of betting, if caught they will have to deal with law enforcement, even so there are some areas where this type of animal gambling is a tradition passed down from their ancestors.

Sometimes, like gambling on sheep, buffalo, chickens and so on, there is an attractive power to show to tourists, both local and international, depending on the situation and gambling laws in that country.

But if this type of gambling is implemented and included in an online casino site, why not, all of that can be done depending on the features and system of the online casino in implementing games such as gambling on chickens, sheep and so on, as casino gambling on dogs, horses etc.

[Questat]

I‘ve wondered why this sort of thing hasn’t become reality with the internet and crypto. It’s probably a good thing as this sort of inhumane behavior would likely lead to protests. However, I once thought it might be cool to have a crypto gambling site where users could bet on fish fights between Japanese fighting fish, but again, a bit inhumane even if fish are a little less evil due to them not feeling pain. This sort of thing could only bring negativity to Bitcoin, so it’s probably best it doesn’t exist.

Until the industry became so corrupt that there was game fixing that results in kidnapping and killing that the government have to stop the operation, they have no choice but to do that, because of this cock fighting so many humans are sacrificed

Good thing it stop because cockfighting doesn't do anything good to people since for what we see in local news it all cost to much damage to people who's betting on cock fighting. And look what happen government can live without it also it seems that crimes or violence news related with such incidents are been low because government already ban the source.

FYI only the online version was stopped there is still cockfighting in stadiums and specialized cockpit arenas, its a tradition for many countries and so instead of totally banning it, governments just regulate it so they can make money out of it, it's hard to fight tradition, only on a total communist country can they stop tradition, it may look cruelty to animals but these gamblers don't see it that way they only want to make money and they will just eventually cook the chicken who loss in the match.

The banned cockfight game was just the E-Sabong and not the indoor ones which is attended by a mass of people on occasions. At first, the government seems to benefit from it because of the millions of taxes that the game can give but eventually, people have gone addicted to it because they can just play anywhere and anytime they want without going to a cockpit arena, and some cases, there are people who got lost because of the alleged cheating inside.

Now, only the selected cockpits are given the permit to operate their businesses, given that they will just open their doors occasionally, so that people won't get that too addicted.

[Jemzx00]

Agreed, you're right about how horrendous these kinds of activities are especially since times have already changed and this should be avoided as much as possible however these activities are part of the culture of these countries which makes it hard to stop. I'm from a country where cock fighting is too common where you may see it in any place you visit and unfortunately, it some people are against it, they can't stop it as it is already a part of our culture, and it is a common activity on most festivals on provincial part of my country.

Also, this can be said for other animal activities in other countries such as Bull Riding and Horse Race where animals are used to compete with each other or subjected to a stressful environment which are also common cultural activities in those countries.

Except rosters fight all the time even if they are not matched by people. When you put 2 cocks in one square meter, chances is that they will fight to death. There is no protest against this kind of gambling. This is a culture for countries in Asia. Besides rosters/chickens is not an endaganred species. Unlike dogfights, the Animal welfare society will be rallying for justice for these pets.

Did you know that they eat these chickens when they die in the fight?  Well, that's what they said in the youtube comments. 

That's not the point here, yes, in the wild most animals will fight once they face each other however setting up two animals in a restricted location or ring isn't natural which is why Animal Organization are against it as human are the ones who's provoking these animals to fight to the death. However, there are various reasons which these activities are hard to stop such as culture and how we treat these animals where we also kill them for human consumption or food.

And, yes, I can assure you that in all matches these chickens that were injured or killed are eaten or even added to the bet where the winner will be the who can take them and cook them.

[Agbe]

I have only seen in movies, and heard cock fight as gambling for people and I heard it from the Asian part of the world. Expect movie, I have not seen it in physical life that people used cocks for gambling. And also in the second part of the story which talked about Muslims using Rams for gambling is the first time I am hearing it. Though I have not gone to that part of the world or country. I have not heard of it. Though in life, everything can be used to place gamble.

[passwordnow]

Yes, it can be added to casinos but don't tell that it's fun. You don't have the same feelings as the majority that find it not really fun at all.
There's the thing that's about it that's being debated by many people and if you're happy seeing these animals bathe with their bloods, you need to reconsider that feeling of yours.

[Merit.s]

Yes I have heard of cock fight and have also watched it in films, I have a friend from part of Asia he explained this gambling stuff to me saying that his parents and grandparents loves gambling on cock fight. He said also grew up to enjoy it because they see it as fun. I love trying something new,if i happen to see it anywhere I will go and watch and possibly stake my bet after I have observed the game and have seen the rascal chicken that is capable of winning. I don't think this can be included in a casino because of the love man has for animals and have seen them worth living so many people might not like the concept.

[acroman08]

I‘ve wondered why this sort of thing hasn’t become reality with the internet and crypto. It’s probably a good thing as this sort of inhumane behavior would likely lead to protests. However, I once thought it might be cool to have a crypto gambling site where users could bet on fish fights between Japanese fighting fish, but again, a bit inhumane even if fish are a little less evil due to them not feeling pain. This sort of thing could only bring negativity to Bitcoin, so it’s probably best it doesn’t exist.

Until the industry became so corrupt that there was game fixing that results in kidnapping and killing that the government have to stop the operation, they have no choice but to do that, because of this cock fighting so many humans are sacrificed

Good thing it stop because cockfighting doesn't do anything good to people since for what we see in local news it all cost to much damage to people who's betting on cock fighting. And look what happen government can live without it also it seems that crimes or violence news related with such incidents are been low because government already ban the source.

FYI only the online version was stopped there is still cockfighting in stadiums and specialized cockpit arenas, its a tradition for many countries and so instead of totally banning it, governments just regulate it so they can make money out of it, it's hard to fight tradition, only on a total communist country can they stop tradition, it may look cruelty to animals but these gamblers don't see it that way they only want to make money and they will just eventually cook the chicken who loss in the match.

the sad part is that they only stopped the operation of e-sabong when a mother sold her kid for money so she can continue betting on e-sabong. also, despite cockfighting being regulated(to the point where police are doing raids), there is still a lot of illegal cockfighting happening and a lot of people participating.

[OgNasty]

I‘ve wondered why this sort of thing hasn’t become reality with the internet and crypto. It’s probably a good thing as this sort of inhumane behavior would likely lead to protests. However, I once thought it might be cool to have a crypto gambling site where users could bet on fish fights between Japanese fighting fish, but again, a bit inhumane even if fish are a little less evil due to them not feeling pain. This sort of thing could only bring negativity to Bitcoin, so it’s probably best it doesn’t exist.

Probably but it is thriving on fiat system, specially cockfighting, it's famous in Asia, events are online, gamblers bet. So I don't think it will make any difference or negativity to bitcoin and crypto.

Again, it really up to the society or the government to whether think this is inhumane behavior or not. And if you are a gambler but then are against this kind of cruelty, then just skip it at all.

It’s not up to anyone to decide, there is no decision to be made. Animal fighting of any kind is 100% wrong and unacceptable. I can’t believe some of you are here are willing to justify it as okay, or part of your society/tradition etc.

Culture doesn’t = right.  Take a look at Iran right now. Forcing women to wear certain clothes and do certain things had long been considered “tradition”. Now many Iranians have woken up and realized how utterly ridiculous it is and how wrong it is to not allow for freedom and equal rights.

Sadly so many of you here on this forum have been raised by brainwashing. You weren’t given the chance or education that’s open and free, but rather taught to do and think exactly as you’re told (normally enforced through the words of your scripture, which is of course often taken out of context and used as a weapon of control). The movie “the book of Eli” does an excellent job of showing how this works.


STOP PROMOTING THE TORTURE OF INNOCENT ANIMALS YOU SICK FUCKS (thank you to those who understand right from wrong).

I'd hate to be on the side of animal torture, but I feel I should say that I was much younger when I thought a fish fights website wound be a good idea (decades ago, I'm old).  Nowadays I'm 100x more likely to kill a human being than an animal of any kind (take that however you want).  I don't even fish anymore or own any captive animals.  However, I think there are plenty of horrible animal abuses occurring at a much larger scale than any fighting games.  In my defense, some of these animals (like Japanese fighting fish) even do these actions normally.  They don't need to be trained to fight, it's what they do (unlike dogs that for the most part get along in packs unless taught bad behavior).  I'd also point out that human beings fight for sport, and most other animals fight as well (for clout).

That being said, I give plenty of money to the ASPCA and don't think any animal should ever be subjected to anything but love.  I reject the idea that I would promote the torture of innocent animals.  However, me being a sick fuck is still debatable. 

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Betting and making money off animal fights is the worst kind of gambling I would ever experience, in my country, we have a game called "Aja Sera" which simply means "Dog race" where dogs are branded and forced to race and gamblers placing bets on the dogs, this is simply animal abuse and should be highly discouraged.

We are in the 21st century and there are so many legitimate ways to make money, even in gambling, there are several games around to make money from, why do we still have to abuse animals all in the name of making money?

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

By the way, I thought gambling was considered a sin in the Muslim religion, how come Muslims are the ones abusing ram all in the name of making profit
?

[348Judah]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

You're right this type of game is what has been evoke since the early days in gambling when there have not been any digital technology with gambling during that era, not only cock but gamblers also make use of other animals like rams to gamble in those days, this were best enjoyed on an open field with a numbers of spectators to witness the fight and also cast their bet, cock fight is as interesting and same way entertaining and gamblers still practice this type of gamblings till present days all over the world but common in the remote regions under rural settings.

[AakZaki]

Well, for me animal fighting is not fun and should not be use as tool for gambling. But if it's not prohibited by the Government, these people won't stop using animal, because as you've said it's fun for those who are engaging themselves in this kind of activity. Anyway, in our country, cock fighting is quite popular especially here in our place. Many men elders are taking care of rooster as business (they sell it when ready) or use it for fighting for their own satisfaction. We have an arena where cock fighting is held, it's legal. Recently they even had a promotion called "fastest kill" and the prize is $600 plus a brand new motorcycle.

I it happens only in my country.  But it turns out that many other countries have the same customs. In my area there are also cockfighting enthusiasts. But I don't know for sure if they gambled or just to raise the price of their chicken because they managed to win.
In addition there is indeed a merchant who owns a farm near me. DIa offers the chicken a lot on various social media. The chickens he sells also have the criteria of good chickens that are commonly used for fighting. If this had become a habit, it would seem that it would be difficult to cross this habit.

[harizen]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Cockfighting is a popular and common gambling game here in our country. It's one of the oldest gambling here. Actually, I'm just a few kilometers away from a famous cockfighting arena here where every day is a busy day there. It's legal here in our country but of course, should be legally registered too.

During the pandemic, when almost all arenas are closed for operations, cockfighting was shifted into online gambling, and matches are done thru Livestream. It became a big hit here that even a non-gambler shows interest in betting on this game. Unfortunately, lots of worst-related cases happened and it become serious as hell. It leads the government to ban online cockfighting in the whole country and up to this point, still considered illegal.

[robelneo]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Cockfighting is a popular and common gambling game here in our country. It's one of the oldest gambling here. Actually, I'm just a few kilometers away from a famous cockfighting arena here where every day is a busy day there. It's legal here in our country but of course, should be legally registered too.

During the pandemic, when almost all arenas are closed for operations, cockfighting was shifted into online gambling, and matches are done thru Livestream. It became a big hit here that even a non-gambler shows interest in betting on this game. Unfortunately, lots of worst-related cases happened and it become serious as hell. It leads the government to ban online cockfighting in the whole country and up to this point, still considered illegal.

There is news that it will soon obviously some powerful gambling personalities are lobbying for its re-opening these people made billions of income and they are now spending millions of money to bribe corrupt officials, the only hindrance is the people who are still missing until these people remain missing there are obstacles for their re-opening.

When a gambling industry has the backing of corrupt politicians because of gambling lord's spending on their election bids expect a strong lobbying position, the human rights people in that country should do everything that online cockfighting will not reopen as it will continue to be a source of corruption.

[harizen]

When a gambling industry has the backing of corrupt politicians because of gambling lord's spending on their election bids expect a strong lobbying position, the human rights people in that country should do everything that online cockfighting will not reopen as it will continue to be a source of corruption.

Regardless, even if these gambling lords you are referring to will bribed a certain official, the revenue of the whole operation won't be that impressive since most people will think that online cockfighting is illegal. Therefore, people won't risk participating in that gambling until the ban will be lifted.

I think online cockfighting will be soon allowed again as long as there's clear progress on those unsolved issues and cases related to online cockfighting. If these gambling lords really want to get back into their operation of online cockfighting, they should help with the investigation for the ban to be lifted as bribing the corrupt officials won't really a big help.

[goinmerry]

We are in the 21st century and there are so many legitimate ways to make money, even in gambling, there are several games around to make money from, why do we still have to abuse animals all in the name of making money?

You can't apply and forces that view of yours on other countries as it's hard to abolish something like classical gambling that is already part of the culture of a certain country. Others might don't like cockfighting because of animal cruelty but didn't you know that all cocks here are being spent wit lots of money just to become healthy on the day of their match.

Take it or leave it. We have to respect those countries that still patronize that kind of game.

[Pamadar]

We are in the 21st century and there are so many legitimate ways to make money, even in gambling, there are several games around to make money from, why do we still have to abuse animals all in the name of making money?

You can't apply and forces that view of yours on other countries as it's hard to abolish something like classical gambling that is already part of the culture of a certain country. Others might don't like cockfighting because of animal cruelty but didn't you know that all cocks here are being spent wit lots of money just to become healthy on the day of their match.

Take it or leave it. We have to respect those countries that still patronize that kind of game.

An old tradition which also been legalized from some places in a small third world country, it's hard to remove that old culture where the enjoyment has been part of this kind of gambling.

I understand the point about animal cruelty but for those who are engaged in this culture
they only understand what they've believed. It's tough for them to change as they will continue
to participate and keep betting on this kind of gambling.

[piebeyb]

it's actually easy if you don't want any animals to die or be killed in gambling as the OP wrote in the thread that is it possible that it will be added in the casino I think it looks like you can that is using a kind of NFT collection of chickens with various versions and qualities of the chickens themselves so that they can fight each other with chicken NFT owners from other users 

Good idea, indeed my country there are still some people who do gambling with fighting chickens. But I'm not sure they'll switch to this model. The reason is that they don't understand technologies like NFTs. Need introduction or socialization. They prefer cash to be received directly without intermediaries.
Maybe for gamblers who are tech-savvy it would be a good solution. But for traditional people, it seems that they don't want to know and learn.

if indeed the casino adds games like that then you have to use a method like that, but if you want to use real animals of course the casino can directly prepare a room for fighting animals then everyone is ready to bet Live, but it's difficult to make this game happen also in the casino even though there is maybe my idea can be implemented

to be honest, I'm not too interested if this kind of gambling exists in casinos and it doesn't seem like there's much demand for it

[AicecreaME]

It's awful when in plain XXI Century people still support animal fights. It is even more despicable having someone making money from that. Cock fight is just like a dog fight, it is f%$7&in&/%$/%&$ horrendous. I apologize to tell you but, people who favour this sort of activity should be behind bars for life.
I personally despize people who support animal abuse. I mean, what is wrong with people!? We already enslave animals on industrialized farms. Every day thousands of animals die so that we can eat. Isn't that enough?

Now, animal fights only exist due to the people who place bets, so if you are one of those, I strongly encourage you to refrain from doing so. We have come to a phase in our Human development, where we do not need that sort of savagery anymore. It is not just wars... How the hell are we supposed to build a better world for our children when things like this are not banned?

Animal right or protection only exists in the developed world. Most developing nations don't have sympathy or compassion for animals. Animals are treated as if they don't feel pains or have feeling. I find it very strange that a footballer was criticized and even fined for kicking his cat. While in my locality people starve and even beat their animals with wipe. I feel terribly sorry for animals in my country that I had to adopt a dog that was starving to death out of compassion.
  
But come to think of it, what is the difference between boxing and cockfighting? They are almost the same because they both involve living thing with flesh and blood. We have heard news of boxers or even wrestlers dying in the ring. Do you think all violent sports should be stopped?    

There are different organizations all over the world dedicated for animal welfare. In some countries, animal welfare isn't much prioritized because of lack of funds and compassion of the people for the animals. This mainly is rooted to the government negligence on other aspects of life and country that has to be looked upon due to their incompetence and greediness. While it is true that in underdeveloped country animals aren't usually taken care of, it doesn't necessarily mean that you could be heartless. Because afterall, we are still in-charge of how we will act and how we will empathize with others even if it isn't fellow human.

Regarding the difference between cockfighting and boxing, there's a really a huge gap between them. They clearly isn't the same even if fighting is involved in both. In boxing, a human is conscious and can give consent on the bout. Humans can decide for themselves. The fight will only commence with their permission of participation in it. However, with cockfighting, animals are being subjected into fight without their consent because they can't even give one to begin with. They are just adhering with what's told of them. They don't want to fight on their own will, but are only forced to fight for the sake of bet that their owner or handler can get after the fight. It isn't the same with boxing wherein a boxer can back out if he wanted to.

[Betwrong]

~ This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

I respect other cultures, and I think it's none of my business what they are doing in their countries with their animals, but I personally would not be staying among people watching animals fights because this scene isn't something I'd like to watch. I hope such game, I mean, betting on live animals, will not be presented in any casino I'm playing in.

[danherbias07]

When a gambling industry has the backing of corrupt politicians because of gambling lord's spending on their election bids expect a strong lobbying position, the human rights people in that country should do everything that online cockfighting will not reopen as it will continue to be a source of corruption.

Regardless, even if these gambling lords you are referring to will bribed a certain official, the revenue of the whole operation won't be that impressive since most people will think that online cockfighting is illegal. Therefore, people won't risk participating in that gambling until the ban will be lifted.

I think online cockfighting will be soon allowed again as long as there's clear progress on those unsolved issues and cases related to online cockfighting. If these gambling lords really want to get back into their operation of online cockfighting, they should help with the investigation for the ban to be lifted as bribing the corrupt officials won't really a big help.

And there's a stain now after they announced it was an illegal industry. Many of our countrymen lost a lot of money on that online "sabong" as they call it.
I didn't know it was banned, I thought the trend just calmed down but they are still doing it in the shadow or, there's just not much hype about it.

The physical cock fighting industry though will continue.
In fact, there's been a lot of equipment working near our place too and I heard it will be a cock fighting pit on the blueprint. I don't know if it will be good for our city considering how huge the gambling taxes are but I worry about kids growing up near it.

[Kasabus]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

That is not suppose to be fun but yeah we don't have same perspective so I wouldn't get in the way for that. I use to see these kind of fights even in my younger days and it's still can be seen these days and fairly legal but right now only in the weekends. I think I can't watch other animals that fight to death other than these cocks that was traditional in my area.

Everything is not supposed to be fun if we are talking about letting these animals fight with each other because in the first place, they aren't existing in this Earth to be like that but for the sake of tradition purposes and everything, we should just learn to accept the fact that it will be hard if we will go against it.

It will take us decades and decades before we can even take some huge leap regarding this exhibition fights. Especially if you're born to an Asian country, it's likely that these kinds of fights will be introduced to you at an early age. Anyway, if these kinds of fights will be listed in casinos, then for sure there will be a lot of bettors who will test their luck on this kind of fight.

Yeah, they don't deserve this kind of treatment just because they are animals and can't be heard what they actually feels. I am in support to end these kind of traditions worldwide but to fully embrace that they aren't born to be fighter or some sort will really take years to fully educate us. I have doubts that it will be listed in a casino though.

And about my stand about this culture and tradition, I'll be just neutral about it and choose not to meddle with it because as I said, even if they aren't supposed to be treated like that, we're somehow too late to stop it because this has been going on for centuries and it's already normal especially if you're from Asia.

[ethereumhunter]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

You're right this type of game is what has been evoke since the early days in gambling when there have not been any digital technology with gambling during that era, not only cock but gamblers also make use of other animals like rams to gamble in those days, this were best enjoyed on an open field with a numbers of spectators to witness the fight and also cast their bet, cock fight is as interesting and same way entertaining and gamblers still practice this type of gamblings till present days all over the world but common in the remote regions under rural settings.

Many audiences enjoy cockfighting and using other animals because it is the entertainment they rarely find on the field or in public. The local government may allow the show as long as no one knows that they are betting because it can make ordinary people curious and finally participate in the bet. And yes, cockfighting is still practiced in rural areas, especially in Asia, because people are still used to betting on cocks or something there. But hopefully, in the future, the government will take action to make its citizens aware not to use animals to bet.

[noormcs5]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

You're right this type of game is what has been evoke since the early days in gambling when there have not been any digital technology with gambling during that era, not only cock but gamblers also make use of other animals like rams to gamble in those days, this were best enjoyed on an open field with a numbers of spectators to witness the fight and also cast their bet, cock fight is as interesting and same way entertaining and gamblers still practice this type of gamblings till present days all over the world but common in the remote regions under rural settings.

That's understandable that cock fighting is an ancient game that was popular in a time when there was no internet and no such digital technology but the problem is why this sport is still popular in the current era in some areas?

There should be a complete ban on this sport and there should be extreme punishment for those who get caught playing this sport. When there will be no cock fighting, there will be no betting on it.

[Boristhecat]

An old tradition which also been legalized from some places in a small third world country, it's hard to remove that old culture where the enjoyment has been part of this kind of gambling.

I understand the point about animal cruelty but for those who are engaged in this culture
they only understand what they've believed. It's tough for them to change as they will continue
to participate and keep betting on this kind of gambling.

It seems to me that there is no need to prohibit such entertainments and to ensure that they die out by force. Culture is inevitably changing (and it has been happening at a rapid pace in recent decades) so these forms of entertainment will naturally become a thing of the past. As far as I know, bullfighting was banned in Spain after, in fact, public interest in it had fallen sharply. When cockfighting becomes not part of the culture but a marginalized entertainment, then it will be relevant to completely ban it.

[Jemzx00]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

You're right this type of game is what has been evoke since the early days in gambling when there have not been any digital technology with gambling during that era, not only cock but gamblers also make use of other animals like rams to gamble in those days, this were best enjoyed on an open field with a numbers of spectators to witness the fight and also cast their bet, cock fight is as interesting and same way entertaining and gamblers still practice this type of gamblings till present days all over the world but common in the remote regions under rural settings.

That's understandable that cock fighting is an ancient game that was popular in a time when there was no internet and no such digital technology but the problem is why this sport is still popular in the current era in some areas?

There should be a complete ban on this sport and there should be extreme punishment for those who get caught playing this sport. When there will be no cock fighting, there will be no betting on it.

Unfortunately, that's only the reason why it's hard to completely ban cock fighting since it has already become a norm or a culture since it has been played for a long time. Also, there are some provincial areas in these Asian countries which have limited access to technology and the internet, and cock fighting is very commonly played in those areas. Other reasons also included are that cocks, or chickens are normally being killed for human consumption unlike other animals like dogs which are kept as a pet and not for food.

Still, I understand that this should be stopped and banned completely as these animals feel pain and should undergo these circumstances before getting killed.

[rahmad2nd]

Well, for me animal fighting is not fun and should not be use as tool for gambling. But if it's not prohibited by the Government, these people won't stop using animal, because as you've said it's fun for those who are engaging themselves in this kind of activity. Anyway, in our country, cock fighting is quite popular especially here in our place. Many men elders are taking care of rooster as business (they sell it when ready) or use it for fighting for their own satisfaction. We have an arena where cock fighting is held, it's legal. Recently they even had a promotion called "fastest kill" and the prize is $600 plus a brand new motorcycle.

I it happens only in my country.  But it turns out that many other countries have the same customs. In my area there are also cockfighting enthusiasts. But I don't know for sure if they gambled or just to raise the price of their chicken because they managed to win.
In addition there is indeed a merchant who owns a farm near me. DIa offers the chicken a lot on various social media. The chickens he sells also have the criteria of good chickens that are commonly used for fighting. If this had become a habit, it would seem that it would be difficult to cross this habit.

@AakZaki, we are very familiar with cockfighting. in almost all provinces in our country, cockfighting gambling must exist even though it has become illegal. even if you know, in Bali. Cockfighting is not a gamble, but a religious ritual. Cockfighting in Bali is a sincere sacrifice for the Bhata Khala. and how the prices of fighting cocks are very high.

There are other types of gambling, I'm sure you are also familiar. the dog fights with the wild boar, how the wild boar will be beaten by several dogs as a fighting opponent. just like a match in the ring, one wild boar fights with 2-3 dogs at a time, until someone becomes a victim. this gambling is also very familiar in our country, isn't it, as entertainment for the village community.

However, in this era. betting involving fighting animals is no longer relevant and has become an illegal activity. culture and traditions like this, must be abandoned. now we have casinos that are more relevant as entertainment, without having to sacrifice those animals that actually have the right to live freely.

[DaNNy001]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Well I haven't been involved in such gambling before although I have seen lots of movies where people do stake a bet on two cock to fight and then the winner goes with the cash.

Well I don't know if it's  going to possible because as most people has said already violation of animals is considered illegal stuff in some countries and it can lead to arrest of such people involved in it.

[serjent05]

Well, for me animal fighting is not fun and should not be use as tool for gambling. But if it's not prohibited by the Government, these people won't stop using animal, because as you've said it's fun for those who are engaging themselves in this kind of activity. Anyway, in our country, cock fighting is quite popular especially here in our place. Many men elders are taking care of rooster as business (they sell it when ready) or use it for fighting for their own satisfaction. We have an arena where cock fighting is held, it's legal. Recently they even had a promotion called "fastest kill" and the prize is $600 plus a brand new motorcycle.

I it happens only in my country.  But it turns out that many other countries have the same customs. In my area there are also cockfighting enthusiasts. But I don't know for sure if they gambled or just to raise the price of their chicken because they managed to win.
In addition there is indeed a merchant who owns a farm near me. DIa offers the chicken a lot on various social media. The chickens he sells also have the criteria of good chickens that are commonly used for fighting. If this had become a habit, it would seem that it would be difficult to cross this habit.

@AakZaki, we are very familiar with cockfighting. in almost all provinces in our country, cockfighting gambling must exist even though it has become illegal. even if you know, in Bali. Cockfighting is not a gamble, but a religious ritual. Cockfighting in Bali is a sincere sacrifice for the Bhata Khala. and how the prices of fighting cocks are very high.

Cockfighting is also one of the ancient gambling game in my country.  Though they are not performed as a religious ritual, many people are so fond of watching these two fowl fight to the death.  Maybe it is part of human nature to watch animals fighting each other since I have seen several gambling games involving two male of the same specie fighting each other to death or whoever dominates the fight win like horse fighting where two stallions are forced into a scenario of fighting to mate since a mare is also presented  Here is a sample video on how the two stallion fight each other to get the right to mate with the mare[1]. 

There is also this gamble that involves insects and reptiles.  Like Spider fighting like this one[2] seen on youtube.  This might be less brutal because the spider has a chance to run away but still, sometimes spiders are killed in this gambling activity.

There are other types of gambling, I'm sure you are also familiar. the dog fights with the wild boar, how the wild boar will be beaten by several dogs as a fighting opponent. just like a match in the ring, one wild boar fights with 2-3 dogs at a time, until someone becomes a victim. this gambling is also very familiar in our country, isn't it, as entertainment for the village community.

This kind of gambling game is too brutal.  It involves a bloody battle between animals.  It is fine it is a course of nature but pitting 3 dogs against 1 boar in a close cage is.  That gives no chance to a wild boar because it is against 3 dogs and no way to run.  I believe this kind of gambling has been banned from several countries because of its brutality.

However, in this era. betting involving fighting animals is no longer relevant and has become an illegal activity. culture and traditions like this, must be abandoned. now we have casinos that are more relevant as entertainment, without having to sacrifice those animals that actually have the right to live freely.

I greatly agree animal lovers find this act brutal and any perpetrator should be punished by law.  Imagine, putting our place in the wild boars situation where we are put in a close cage against 3 lions?  I bet we cannot find excitement and entertainment in that scenario.


[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6uvuy2g9Yw
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dokf_VvEShk

[freedomgo]

If such a game is viewed for passion then it gets some acceptability but when such game is organized for gambling it loses its acceptability completely. Not just cockfighting. In my opinion, none of the animal in the world should be encouraged by gambling to play such a combative game. Moreover, I do not believe that there is any precedent in any religion to accept such a thing. If someone is regularly immersed in such activities then it is everyone's responsibility to bring him back.

Be it passion or simply for profits alone, it will always be very unlikely to see animals fighting each other for man’s satisfaction. We can always chose to gamble with money by using other means but not using animals as tools. Maybe the reason why most of the countries banned cockfighting, and only in Asian countries that the gamblers are more passionate about it. It’s okay for a horse race as it’s also kind of gambling, but I don’t see it reasonable for cockfighting.

[goinmerry]

Be it passion or simply for profits alone, it will always be very unlikely to see animals fighting each other for man’s satisfaction. We can always chose to gamble with money by using other means but not using animals as tools. Maybe the reason why most of the countries banned cockfighting, and only in Asian countries that the gamblers are more passionate about it. It’s okay for a horse race as it’s also kind of gambling, but I don’t see it reasonable for cockfighting.

As long as it was properly regulated, I don't see why should there be a concern referring to animal cruelty.

There is a lot of violence related to animals globally that needed to be prioritized and addressed that's why it's not a big deal for me to call for an abolishment of cockfighting as a whole as long as it is legal in that country and all standard proceedings are strictly followed.

For a country where cockfighting is treated as legal gambling, we should respect that country's view about that.

[Jemzx00]

Be it passion or simply for profits alone, it will always be very unlikely to see animals fighting each other for man’s satisfaction. We can always chose to gamble with money by using other means but not using animals as tools. Maybe the reason why most of the countries banned cockfighting, and only in Asian countries that the gamblers are more passionate about it. It’s okay for a horse race as it’s also kind of gambling, but I don’t see it reasonable for cockfighting.

As long as it was properly regulated, I don't see why should there be a concern referring to animal cruelty.

There is a lot of violence related to animals globally that needed to be prioritized and addressed that's why it's not a big deal for me to call for an abolishment of cockfighting as a whole as long as it is legal in that country and all standard proceedings are strictly followed.

For a country where cockfighting is treated as legal gambling, we should respect that country's view about that.

From someone who lives on a country where cockfighting is a normal gambling activity, I beg to disagree. Cockfighting may be considered as a legal gambling activity and it might be regulated on some places, but still cockfighting involves violence between two animals that was forced by us human.

However, I also disagree with freedomgo that horseracing should be allowed as it also involves us humans hurting horse for the sake of our fun and leisure. Both cockfighting and horseracing should not be allowed to operate as both involve animal cruelty and unnecessary violence.

[Asiska02]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

I strongly oppose the use of animals in sports. It is unjust how these creatures have been treated for the sake of sports and gambling. They are live entities with feelings. Unlike humans, we can tell when we want to join in something or not, but they are forced to participate with no option to reject because they cannot communicate like us. It does not seem appropriate to me, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[Baofeng]

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

[coolcoinz]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Well, for me animal fighting is not fun and should not be use as tool for gambling. But if it's not prohibited by the Government, these people won't stop using animal, because as you've said it's fun for those who are engaging themselves in this kind of activity. Anyway, in our country, cock fighting is quite popular especially here in our place. Many men elders are taking care of rooster as business (they sell it when ready) or use it for fighting for their own satisfaction. We have an arena where cock fighting is held, it's legal. Recently they even had a promotion called "fastest kill" and the prize is $600 plus a brand new motorcycle.

You need to be raised in this culture to have no feelings for animals. I'll give you an example. When I first saw a movie about how the Chinese treat dogs and cats before eating them, I was struck by their brutality. These people boil them alive because they think the taste is better if they prepare them this way. It's a sick practice and they don't even blink when they torture these poor animals. They act like this because they were brought up in a culture where an animal is treated like a thing.

Same with those who watch animal fight and enjoy them. You don't care about feelings of a fly or a mosquito and they don't care about rams or dogs. To these people it's one and the same.

[Ebede]

Cock fighting was involved in gambling over the region of Asia and South Asia over a years. Many old people encouraged their new generation in to the cock fighting. They also share their opinions to the younger generation from their young age. This leads to the new involvement of the generation to the cock fighting. Some people also involved in cock trade for the game of cock fighting. Government of many nations encouraged the cock fighting with their people. Some people do this cock fight over year to year.

This is totally in history and this is three is something that so many of us that don't know it have to pay attention and learn about it very well so I've not heard of this story or theory but with this explanation forum, and I can be able to understand exactly and the next time I can also be I will to explain to another person to understand this concept

[n0ne]

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

Animal cruelty is discussed much. With the same, different cultural events have been cited. It is true one should not do harm to the animals. If we've innovated something new it is fine. Here we're following what is being followed out of a community's tradition and culture. Only a poll can get the proper result. I'll be in favour of people to continue gambling with animals, if this is cruelty killing animals for our fooding too is cruelty.

[harizen]

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

A poll, discussion, or debate is not really necessary as both parties have different points of view and their respective beliefs won't be changed. It will turn into a never-ending debate, the same as how debates about politics, religion, and culture went through.

For Gamblers, they really don't mind the use of animals in sports like cockfighting or horse racing.

For animal lovers, they will really oppose the idea of having such sports involving animals.

As for me, I really don't mind both but it doesn't mean I do bet on cockfighting or don't care for animals. In fact, I have 3 dogs, 2 cats, 2 native chickens, and 6 hamsters in our home lol. It's just that, ethical or unethical, we can't change the fact that cockfighting is already there in countries where it is allowed.

Back to OP's question if such a game can be in a casino, the answer is NO technically but a casino game can be designed with such a concept.

[livingfree]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before.

As someone who has pets, I don't think it's always fun or never been fun. There's the satisfying feeling when someone sees the struggle of the other animal and the fight itself but that's not on me.

It's the culture that makes us think that it's fun but if you try to analyze the situation, you'll eventually going to realize that it's no fun at all.

Well, that depends if you really think that it's fun.

[traderethereum]

Yes I have heard of cock fight and have also watched it in films, I have a friend from part of Asia he explained this gambling stuff to me saying that his parents and grandparents loves gambling on cock fight. He said also grew up to enjoy it because they see it as fun. I love trying something new,if i happen to see it anywhere I will go and watch and possibly stake my bet after I have observed the game and have seen the rascal chicken that is capable of winning. I don't think this can be included in a casino because of the love man has for animals and have seen them worth living so many people might not like the concept.

I don't think it's love because we use the animal to gamble and often, the animal is killed in the end.
And even though they have spent time taking care of the animals but they still use them to gamble and try to win some money.
But maybe in Asia, this is common and has been happening for a long time, so it's not uncommon to see cockfights or other animal bets.
And if the government sees that this is addictive for the current generation, they will ban it and punish people who use animals to gamble.

[AicecreaME]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before.

As someone who has pets, I don't think it's always fun or never been fun. There's the satisfying feeling when someone sees the struggle of the other animal and the fight itself but that's not on me.

It's the culture that makes us think that it's fun but if you try to analyze the situation, you'll eventually going to realize that it's no fun at all.

Well, that depends if you really think that it's fun.

As someone who has animals as pets, it's not really very enjoyable to watch an animal suffer just because someone has placed a bet on it. Way back when I was still a child, I also engaged in some sort of betting on spider fighting. It was fun way back when I'm still not knowledgeable enough that they have feelings and they deserve to live too. But now, I wouldn't really place a bet on something that involves cruelty because it just tolerates and even boosts the urge of those people who organize such because there are people engaging in it.

Seeing how the two gamecocks fight against each other because humans tell them to and put them in such situation wherein survival of the fittest is the only way to be alive and fighting will be their only way out is such a horrible idea. But then again, not everyone possess the same level of empathy that a person has. It varies to different extent and some do not even possess it at all. If it's your definition of fun, I won't really support you, but I won't impose my beliefs on you.

[Pierre 2]

I was shocked to see in Türkiye people were organizing cock fights through hidden Facebook groups (this was found out when 1-2 of them were forgotten, so comments and posts were visible). There were people with rooster images talking in sort of cryptic language. It was legal are in law in past. But now we have animal rights law so its completely illegal. I also think this should not be encouraged anymore, I see how those animals are losing their all feathers and such. Terrible exploitation of animals.

[piebeyb]

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

yes there are some cultures that are still thick with animal cruelty but besides that all of us in this forum have to respect their culture if we want to be respected, to be honest it's not a gambling game that I want because I'm not someone who likes to kill animals just to bet on gambling, so this discussion will be very long to discuss because it all depends on the point of view of different communities

after all it seems no casino is too keen on the idea of creating gambling that features animal cruelty

[Pamadar]

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

yes there are some cultures that are still thick with animal cruelty but besides that all of us in this forum have to respect their culture if we want to be respected, to be honest it's not a gambling game that I want because I'm not someone who likes to kill animals just to bet on gambling, so this discussion will be very long to discuss because it all depends on the point of view of different communities

after all it seems no casino is too keen on the idea of creating gambling that features animal cruelty

Got that point, a valid opinion that there are differences among us here. Maybe it will be on your own take if how will you prefer whether you will not engage if chances permit that you have that kind of gambling from where you are.

It's your decision and if others are willing to gamble, then, like what you said, let them or so be it.
Nothing will change for now, as there are countries who still allow this kind of gambling and I like
the idea that there's no gambling website or major website that cater this kind of gambling.

[rahmad2nd]

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

Whether it should be ? we don't need to debate it. after all, the type of gambling that involves animals as a backdrop does not exist in sports or casino gambling. the exception is horse racing or dog racing as these have nothing to do with fighting animals like in a boxing ring. after all, in my own country, culture and traditions like this are strictly prohibited, be it cockfighting, or sheep fighting, it is no longer allowed to involve gambling, I don't know in other Asian countries.

These traditions and cultures have existed long before we were born, to eliminate cultures and traditions like this requires awareness from each individual. there is a process, moreover now there are organizations all over the world that love animals and strictly prohibit gambling actions that involve the brutality of fights involving animals. after all, we already have an online casino, which is more enjoyable. Gradually, this kind of culture will disappear by itself.

[Mahanton]

Might be better if we have a poll OP?

This discussions has turned into animal cruelty vs gamblers who doesn't mind animals being involved for such games.

Like in your case, it seems that its already part of your culture and customs and yet it is being criticized here. So I'm just interested on the numbers, who favors who in this kind of argument.

yes there are some cultures that are still thick with animal cruelty but besides that all of us in this forum have to respect their culture if we want to be respected, to be honest it's not a gambling game that I want because I'm not someone who likes to kill animals just to bet on gambling, so this discussion will be very long to discuss because it all depends on the point of view of different communities

after all it seems no casino is too keen on the idea of creating gambling that features animal cruelty

Agree on this one that we should really be respecting on other countries culture.It is really just that there are really people who are really just making those exaggerated reactions in talks about
animal cruelty which they dont even bother about asking the situation into those hogs that been slaughtered just for us people to have some meat. Lets just really that accept 
that there are places in the world which does have different culture and things that they've been dealing.They might not really be looking to be good or ethical on some point
but well its theirs to take and its none of our business and we dont have rights on criticizing it.

[goldkingcoiner]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

So basically the real life equivalent of pokemon. Except more brutal and less exciting. Not that I have anything against a digital version. Hell, why not just play Pokemon and fight Pokemon? It is basically the same thing and you don't need to kill chickens for it.

To answer your question, I think such a game cannot be installed in most casinos due to laws. But there are countries in which they could exist in casinos, I am sure. But they can definitely find a crowd in online casinos. But then again, that would just be Pokemon. Maybe that's the reason casinos do not include this in their gambling games?

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

[bisdak40]

To answer your question, I think such a game cannot be installed in most casinos due to laws. But there are countries in which they could exist in casinos, I am sure. But they can definitely find a crowd in online casinos. But then again, that would just be Pokemon. Maybe that's the reason casinos do not include this in their gambling games?

As i've said in my previous post above that in our country there is this online cockbetting where you can bet anytime, anywhere as long as you have an internet connection and it used to be legalized by the government but now it stopped due to some complaints but you can still find online cockbetting but not that open anymore as it is already illegally operated. Online cockbetting could generate billions of pesos that i think it is a bigger platform that a casino in our country which is why it is very hard to stop/eliminate.

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

[goldkingcoiner]

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? 

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

[blockman]

It's very common in our country and there are even online casinos that are focused only on this type of match. I'm not into it but there's been a big issue about it because that owner of roosters that are cheating, they're releasing in the cockpit a weak rooster, and then they'll bet on the opponent's side. There are a lot of those people involved that have been kidnapped and until now, no one knows about their whereabouts.

[GiftedMAN]

Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

Betting on this kind of game can be easy to predict by easily judging for the fitness and look of the rams I think, and one thing I am wondering is how is it done that these rams just begin to fight themselves, seems odd. You also said that some of the rams are secretly smuggled to were the ram fight is supposed to take place, how do people who their smuggled rams die in the process handle it.

No, the reverse is always the case because some rams may appear too weak but when they come in contact with another ram they get energized to fight harder. The statement of the op about some people smuggling some ram to gamble is not correct because the rams are trained rams that's why they can easily start fighting when they get to the gambling ground about the issue of where some cow die in the process of fighting, the owners are aware of the risk that's why its not always a problem when there is a dead ram.

[Fatunad]

Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

Betting on this kind of game can be easy to predict by easily judging for the fitness and look of the rams I think, and one thing I am wondering is how is it done that these rams just begin to fight themselves, seems odd. You also said that some of the rams are secretly smuggled to were the ram fight is supposed to take place, how do people who their smuggled rams die in the process handle it.

No, the reverse is always the case because some rams may appear too weak but when they come in contact with another ram they get energized to fight harder. The statement of the op about some people smuggling some ram to gamble is not correct because the rams are trained rams that's why they can easily start fighting when they get to the gambling ground about the issue of where some cow die in the process of fighting, the owners are aware of the risk that's why its not always a problem when there is a dead ram.

When it comes to these animal fights which are attached on gambling then expect that one of them would surely die in the end of the process or simply part of the game. People are really just
too overacting with these kind of betting or gambling where they do really mind about animal cruelty or something in related. On cockfight game then it is really a pretty common one
on some countries which they dont really mind about those issues. Better or the stronger animal would always win the game and what makes it interesting is that
you cant really be able to determine which one is better. 

[qwertyup23]

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? 

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

As someone who grew up with a family that owns a farm full of chickens for cockfighting, it is actually more than just luck-based.

A certain breed of chickens are required in order for them to participate in a fight. If a chicken wins in a match, his whole bloodline of chicks would be trained inside a simulated arena (without their blades, of course) to check their reflexes. I remember my grandfather and father hiring people to train these chickens to improve their flight reach and reflexes in the fight.

Of course, a normal viewer would see it as purely "luck-based" given the number of factors that can turn the tide of the battle. But you can eliminate those "luck-based" factors by training your chickens for the match.

[Silberman]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

So basically the real life equivalent of pokemon. Except more brutal and less exciting. Not that I have anything against a digital version. Hell, why not just play Pokemon and fight Pokemon? It is basically the same thing and you don't need to kill chickens for it.

To answer your question, I think such a game cannot be installed in most casinos due to laws. But there are countries in which they could exist in casinos, I am sure. But they can definitely find a crowd in online casinos. But then again, that would just be Pokemon. Maybe that's the reason casinos do not include this in their gambling games?

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Many countries have laws against animal cruelty so an established casino is probably not going to be able to add cock fights for the same reason they cannot add dog fights, however there are many places that despite the fact such events are prohibited by the law they still organize them, as it is part of their traditions and the local authorities decide to not intervene as they also receive a cut from the organizers of the event.

[PX-Z]

In my country, there is a law of animal welfare, and against for animal cruelty such as horse and dog fight, but what, cock fighting is legal here. Only to those licensed cockpits in every sunday and some holidays.
Due to this is a huge business here and already part of the culture and tradition since many hundred years ago, i don't think if government will stop it or make a law against it since most politicians are only held to protect their businesses.

[Plaguedeath]

Seriously, what's the fun about cock fight game? it's animal abuse and that's not fun at all.

It's sad to see a cock that doesn't did anything wrong being forced to fight with each other until of them them sick or dead, while the owner will just looking for new cock again. I think any countries has a law about animals, if you see someone do this game, you can report it to police and they will arrest this dirty people.

[Peanutswar]

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? 

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

Based on my experience my father really having fun with this game and he is the one make a condition with the cock fighters this thing has a lot of preparations like feeds, vitamins, vegetables, syrup and etc to increase the boost and capability of the chickens to make sure they are getting ready to the fight there's some different breed of it depends on the colour like red, orange, and white also wit their legs if this is white or brown and also you can see the body of the chicken is well good if you touch its wings, head, and under part of it and if the body is firm or not.

[mrongoz_imut]

Seriously, what's the fun about cock fight game? it's animal abuse and that's not fun at all.

It's sad to see a cock that doesn't did anything wrong being forced to fight with each other until of them them sick or dead, while the owner will just looking for new cock again. I think any countries has a law about animals, if you see someone do this game, you can report it to police and they will arrest this dirty people.

Very true, as you said, the cockfighting gambling game is very sad because this can hurt innocent animals, we feel very guilty because we take advantage of animal suffering, in other countries animals are guarded but unfortunately in my country animals are made into people's gambling greedy, actually there are still very many legal gambling platforms that are legalized by the government, even though many people like cockfighting gambling but for me personally I am not at all interested in cockfighting gambling, the reason is because I don't want to see cocks die in vain, I I also really hope that the government can stop cockfighting gambling in my country.

[piebeyb]

Got that point, a valid opinion that there are differences among us here. Maybe it will be on your own take if how will you prefer whether you will not engage if chances permit that you have that kind of gambling from where you are.

It's your decision and if others are willing to gamble, then, like what you said, let them or so be it.
Nothing will change for now, as there are countries who still allow this kind of gambling and I like
the idea that there's no gambling website or major website that cater this kind of gambling.

yes, therefore this gambling has never been shown in live events especially in casinos because it might conflict with different views, I also don't agree with seeing gambling using animals but I have to understand their culture as long as they never show it in public spaces I don't think there's any problem in my country gambling is prohibited and most of them play always hiding in the forest

Agree on this one that we should really be respecting on other countries culture.It is really just that there are really people who are really just making those exaggerated reactions in talks about
animal cruelty which they dont even bother about asking the situation into those hogs that been slaughtered just for us people to have some meat. Lets just really that accept  
that there are places in the world which does have different culture and things that they've been dealing.They might not really be looking to be good or ethical on some point
but well its theirs to take and its none of our business and we dont have rights on criticizing it.

We all understand that differences of opinion are also good but we also remind each other that we must respect the culture in each country if we want to be respected, even though I do not agree with gambling using animals, but again any casino will not add this gambling to their site if there is one maybe using a digital kind of NFT would make it more modern  

[Obari]

This very game isn't common in my local community if at all it exist but I did watched this gambling mostly in Asian movies and it was really an interesting one and I also wanted to know if those cocks are specially trained because they really seem specially trained.

This game would be nice and interesting if introduced to virtual games not just for the price but also for the fun in watching this creature without hands actually engaging in a brutal combat.
I also haven't witnessed this fight in person and I really will love to someday

[bisdak40]

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? 

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

Yes it is, at least for me.

Imagine yourself that you are about to bet on an online/actual cockfighting, you can't touch them as that is not allowed because by doing so you can somewhat tell the bigger bird because the bigger bird you have, you have the advantage on your opponent so by merely looking at two birds on which to bet, you just rely purely on luck if you are an ordinary bettor (not the owner of the cock).

Cockfighting is so complicated than it looks. You merely see two birds fighting but behind the scene, it is very complicated on how to let those birds fight. The matching and the installation of blades of the cock's knuckle also play a big role because slight mistake on the blades angle, it can't kill it's opponent.

Not an expert as well but have seen enough that i could say i'm better on some of us here in the forum about this game.

[Ben Barubal]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

I strongly oppose the use of animals in sports. It is unjust how these creatures have been treated for the sake of sports and gambling. They are live entities with feelings. Unlike humans, we can tell when we want to join in something or not, but they are forced to participate with no option to reject because they cannot communicate like us. It does not seem appropriate to me, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

   This topic is repeated over and over again, everyone in the cryptocurrency community knows that Bitcoin will increase, but no one knows when it will happen because, because the increase or decrease in its value can happen anytime, maybe minutes, hours, days, weeks, or months due to its volatility.

   Can't think of another topic, then what if bitcoin goes up? that's good for holders who have large holdings of bitcoin, but if your holdings are only a small amount, it seems like you won't appreciate its increase very much.

[Slow death]

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

honestly I can't even understand how people who bet on these chicken fights manage to analyze a chicken to have any chance of winning the fight, because there is no data available on the internet about the chickens, because I don't see how they would collect data from a chicken, for example, is there a database where they put which chicken X is so many years old, has so many victories? in addition to the fact that the governments of most countries condemn this type of thing, so I suppose that those who bet on it are people who like clandestine betting, I hope that those people who organize this type of thing change their attitudes and stop doing it doing that kind of mean thing, in my country they never did that kind of thing and from what I see the law doesn't allow that kind of thing to be done. I wonder: if you took a poll of all the people in these countries who do these kinds of things, would the majority of people vote in favor of this top of things? As I have never been to that country, I cannot give an opinion on how life is in these countries.

[usekevin]

The animal cruelty was offence almost all over the world.But according to the cock,their was different law.We are using the cock for the food,maybe it is the reason for this relaxation.I had different opinion on this.Even their is a law to prevent the dog,But the cock don’t have any hesitation.This is due to cock had two legs.The Animal welfare should think about this,they also look into the concern on cock fighting.When one cock had loss,it will be killed and used as the food their dinner.

[Hispo]

It's very common in our country and there are even online casinos that are focused only on this type of match. I'm not into it but there's been a big issue about it because that owner of roosters that are cheating, they're releasing in the cockpit a weak rooster, and then they'll bet on the opponent's side. There are a lot of those people involved that have been kidnapped and until now, no one knows about their whereabouts.

But how does the owner of the roosters manage to scam people that way?
Don't people know about the state of the roosters before the fight, so they can know where to place their bets?

Also, I assume you mean there are crime syndicates that have been ripped off by these online casinos and they retaliate against the owners of the casinos by kidnapping them.  Another reason why transparency is necessary in every kind of betting, I guess.

[348Judah]

It's very common in our country and there are even online casinos that are focused only on this type of match. I'm not into it but there's been a big issue about it because that owner of roosters that are cheating, they're releasing in the cockpit a weak rooster, and then they'll bet on the opponent's side.

I've not been seing any of the present casinos with such game being on their casino list because it is one of the traditional olden days game played but nevertheless gamblers still gambles with this kind just in a rare occasions and locations, but it's a game that is mostly practice and enjoyed by many part of the world, cock fight is as interesting and unpredictable because the game is live and entertaining.

[Japinat]

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? 

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

I'm also struggling to determine whether if it's luck-based game or not, I know what you're trying to say and I got your point. It's just sometimes, even the strongest rooster will get defeated unexpectedly and surely there's a lot of gamblers who will lost that bet because no one would expect that it will get lost. If you're particular about this game, then you already knew that there's a calendar that the bettors are looking and the type of the moon of that specific day/night. Of course, there's no guarantee that you will win if you'll base your bets about it but there will be some times too that it will really go through.

[blockman]

But how does the owner of the roosters manage to scam people that way?
Don't people know about the state of the roosters before the fight, so they can know where to place their bets?

They bet on the opponent while the rooster that they're going to release is sick and weak. It's the arbitrage scam that they do and those people that bet on their sick rooster are for sure going to lose money while they know that they've got an instant win because who's going to win with a weak and sick rooster in a fight?

Also, I assume you mean there are crime syndicates that have been ripped off by these online casinos and they retaliate against the owners of the casinos by kidnapping them.  Another reason why transparency is necessary in every kind of betting, I guess.

Exactly, they're taking revenge on those people and they presume that they're scammers that make them lose money. Those people that have been reported were never found and even the government had already stepped on it and did an investigation but it did nothing.

I've not been seing any of the present casinos with such game being on their casino list because it is one of the traditional olden days game played but nevertheless gamblers still gambles with this kind just in a rare occasions and locations, but it's a game that is mostly practice and enjoyed by many part of the world, cock fight is as interesting and unpredictable because the game is live and entertaining.

The casinos that have it are specialized ones, they're only focusing on cockfight and at the same time got a few casino games. Well, there really people who would say that it's fun but you'll see how many are against on it despite both parties are gamblers.

[noormcs5]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

You're right this type of game is what has been evoke since the early days in gambling when there have not been any digital technology with gambling during that era, not only cock but gamblers also make use of other animals like rams to gamble in those days, this were best enjoyed on an open field with a numbers of spectators to witness the fight and also cast their bet, cock fight is as interesting and same way entertaining and gamblers still practice this type of gamblings till present days all over the world but common in the remote regions under rural settings.

That's understandable that cock fighting is an ancient game that was popular in a time when there was no internet and no such digital technology but the problem is why this sport is still popular in the current era in some areas?

There should be a complete ban on this sport and there should be extreme punishment for those who get caught playing this sport. When there will be no cock fighting, there will be no betting on it.

Unfortunately, that's only the reason why it's hard to completely ban cock fighting since it has already become a norm or a culture since it has been played for a long time. Also, there are some provincial areas in these Asian countries which have limited access to technology and the internet, and cock fighting is very commonly played in those areas. Other reasons also included are that cocks, or chickens are normally being killed for human consumption unlike other animals like dogs which are kept as a pet and not for food.

Still, I understand that this should be stopped and banned completely as these animals feel pain and should undergo these circumstances before getting killed.

Ok, I agree that there might be some places where it would be difficult to stop the game itself which is cock fighting. But where does the gambling take place in those matches?  There could be local gambling where bookies conduct the betting on those fights. Well, we can't stop them either as no one has control over the local bookies.
However, other online gambling sites which are operating from other parts of the world, should not offer gambling on these cock fights. If any online site is found providing bets on cock fighting games, they should be penalized.

[serjent05]

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? 

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

I also think luck is a huge factor in this game.  Since cockfighting is modified by equipping blades on the legs of the rooster,  other rooster are not comfortable wearing it so as a result there are some incidents of self-afflicted damage that can result in the death of a roster.  This sometimes happen when the dominant rooster shuffle the almost beaten opponent that is lying on the ground.  The dominant rooster often hit its neck that can result to insta-death of the rooster.

Another case of luck case is the fighting strategy of a cock.  Since most owners are not aware of how the cock fight, there is a chance that their rooster fight style is countered by the opposing rooster's fight style.  There are lots of cases that luck can apply on the cockfigting game.  One that I experienced was that the blade was wrongly equipped on our rooster making it not deal damage even though it should be a clear hit.

[Lanatsa]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

You're right this type of game is what has been evoke since the early days in gambling when there have not been any digital technology with gambling during that era, not only cock but gamblers also make use of other animals like rams to gamble in those days, this were best enjoyed on an open field with a numbers of spectators to witness the fight and also cast their bet, cock fight is as interesting and same way entertaining and gamblers still practice this type of gamblings till present days all over the world but common in the remote regions under rural settings.

That's understandable that cock fighting is an ancient game that was popular in a time when there was no internet and no such digital technology but the problem is why this sport is still popular in the current era in some areas?

There should be a complete ban on this sport and there should be extreme punishment for those who get caught playing this sport. When there will be no cock fighting, there will be no betting on it.

Unfortunately, that's only the reason why it's hard to completely ban cock fighting since it has already become a norm or a culture since it has been played for a long time. Also, there are some provincial areas in these Asian countries which have limited access to technology and the internet, and cock fighting is very commonly played in those areas. Other reasons also included are that cocks, or chickens are normally being killed for human consumption unlike other animals like dogs which are kept as a pet and not for food.

Still, I understand that this should be stopped and banned completely as these animals feel pain and should undergo these circumstances before getting killed.

Ok, I agree that there might be some places where it would be difficult to stop the game itself which is cock fighting. But where does the gambling take place in those matches?  There could be local gambling where bookies conduct the betting on those fights. Well, we can't stop them either as no one has control over the local bookies.
However, other online gambling sites which are operating from other parts of the world, should not offer gambling on these cock fights. If any online site is found providing bets on cock fighting games, they should be penalized.

I do made out some research in regarding on what you have asked on where these things been held off.
As you can see on how many cockfighting Arenas on Philippines.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cockfighting_arenas_in_the_Philippines

Which does really tell that this one is really that regulated or something been allowed, because these establishments cant be build up if cockfighting was
prohibited on the first place.This is where local online betting sites would really be looking upon as usual.

[Oasisman]

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? 

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

I also think luck is a huge factor in this game.  Since cockfighting is modified by equipping blades on the legs of the rooster,  other rooster are not comfortable wearing it so as a result there are some incidents of self-afflicted damage that can result in the death of a roster.  This sometimes happen when the dominant rooster shuffle the almost beaten opponent that is lying on the ground.  The dominant rooster often hit its neck that can result to insta-death of the rooster.

Another case of luck case is the fighting strategy of a cock.  Since most owners are not aware of how the cock fight, there is a chance that their rooster fight style is countered by the opposing rooster's fight style.  There are lots of cases that luck can apply on the cockfigting game.  One that I experienced was that the blade was wrongly equipped on our rooster making it not deal damage even though it should be a clear hit.

I'm not really a huge fan of cock fighting, but most of the time in a huge cock fighting tournament where wealthy and expert breeders are clashing together, it's mostly base on luck as majority of these roosters are well trained and very well taken care of with all the vitamins and hybrid foods.
However, there are these local cock fighting, which is mostly unpermitted, you can easily determine which rooster is more likely to win and which one is more likely depending on luck.

That's what I've heard from the people who loves cock fighting here in my place.

[virasisog]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such a game be in the casino?

I often watch cock fighting when I was young because my father used to work in a cock fight arena. It was heartbreaking to see animals dying for the happiness of humans but everything seems normal to the viewers since it's a traditional game.
I'm not into games where animals are involved because for me, they also deserve to live and they don't have to sacrifice their lives for our selfish desires but we can't stop these gambling games because they are already part of our culture.

[goinmerry]

I'm not into games where animals are involved because for me, they also deserve to live and they don't have to sacrifice their lives for our selfish desires but we can't stop these gambling games because they are already part of our culture.

That's what others don't understand and they will just stick with their loving the animals' stuff and being an animal patriot.

If they don't like that game, these people don't have to say "stop this game" but rather respect other countries' beliefs.

There are lots of worst cultures out there compare to cockfighting. People should not stress themselves if they don't like this type of gambling game.

[ethereumhunter]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such a game be in the casino?

I often watch cock fighting when I was young because my father used to work in a cock fight arena. It was heartbreaking to see animals dying for the happiness of humans but everything seems normal to the viewers since it's a traditional game.
I'm not into games where animals are involved because for me, they also deserve to live and they don't have to sacrifice their lives for our selfish desires but we can't stop these gambling games because they are already part of our culture.

It must be very sad to see animals dying for human satisfaction and they can't feel the sadness. But it is part of the cockfight bet and only those who lose will feel it when they see their animal lose. This animal bet is very difficult to stop and only with the awareness of the gamblers can stop it. They have to find other ways to bet and not use animals anymore to bet. Maybe one day, this animal bet will completely disappear because gamblers will have other ways to channel their passion for gambling.

[Hispo]

But how does the owner of the roosters manage to scam people that way?
Don't people know about the state of the roosters before the fight, so they can know where to place their bets?

They bet on the opponent while the rooster that they're going to release is sick and weak. It's the arbitrage scam that they do and those people that bet on their sick rooster are for sure going to lose money while they know that they've got an instant win because who's going to win with a weak and sick rooster in a fight?

Also, I assume you mean there are crime syndicates that have been ripped off by these online casinos and they retaliate against the owners of the casinos by kidnapping them.  Another reason why transparency is necessary in every kind of betting, I guess.

Exactly, they're taking revenge on those people and they presume that they're scammers that make them lose money. Those people that have been reported were never found and even the government had already stepped on it and did an investigation but it did nothing.

Man, that is insane. The government can't even stop neither the scammers nor the kidnappers?
Here people cannot try to scam people like that, they would not last a week (and they know it), very disgusting and unfair. At least, here most of the times people get "fair" fights.

The deeper I dive into this thread about cockfighting the more I convince myself it should be banned in my country and leave animals out of betting. Perhaps, with the exception of horse races. 

[Ben Barubal]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

  Gamblers are happy to win the chicken of their choice of course. But the animals or chickens are not happy, that's for sure, if only these

chickens could talk, they probably would have talked to people like us. It's a pity to see, because, in every game or fight between two chickens,

one of them will surely be a delicious dish after the fight. But this gambling game is not in all countries they allow to do in some others it is illegal

for them and in others it is legal.

[Reatim]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Not all people are having fun seeing these animals kills each others because of our intentions and just because we wanted to have fun and winning , why not gamble in other form?
there are lot to offer in each casino so there is no need for animal to die in this kind of cruel way, aren't we enough of eating them?
maybe this is the time that we must act accordingly towards animal and make them have a living life without this kind of event happening .

[madnessteat]

^

I absolutely agree with you, because I think animal fighting is unacceptable. This kind of entertainment has been considered normal in some countries for a long time, but animals don't have to die for entertainment. Nowadays, people can build good fighting robots suitable for this kind of entertainment and bet on them. Why this is still not being done is a big question.

[Sanitough]

In my country, there is a law of animal welfare, and against for animal cruelty such as horse and dog fight, but what, cock fighting is legal here. Only to those licensed cockpits in every sunday and some holidays.
Due to this is a huge business here and already part of the culture and tradition since many hundred years ago, i don't think if government will stop it or make a law against it since most politicians are only held to protect their businesses.

Cockfighting in my country isn’t new anymore and is certainly not an issue even if it’s considered a form of animal cruelty. The fact that it’s been legalized by the government and there are big names behind on it protecting, so it can’t be easily banned or stopped. However, on my own point of view, cockfighting is not just a form of animal cruelty but there are also a lot of crimes happening that is associated to cockfighting just like robbery, drug selling or using, and sometimes committing murder which made me see it as something that needs to be banned or something that should not be played in casinos.

[blockman]

Exactly, they're taking revenge on those people and they presume that they're scammers that make them lose money. Those people that have been reported were never found and even the government had already stepped on it and did an investigation but it did nothing.

Man, that is insane. The government can't even stop neither the scammers nor the kidnappers?
Here people cannot try to scam people like that, they would not last a week (and they know it), very disgusting and unfair. At least, here most of the times people get "fair" fights.

Yup, that's the sad reality. It seems that there's a bigger authority that's behind all of those kidnappings. They can stop the operations but about the kidnappings, it's left as a mystery who's behind related to this issue.

The deeper I dive into this thread about cockfighting the more I convince myself it should be banned in my country and leave animals out of betting. Perhaps, with the exception of horse races. 

It's a brutal sport for the animals, one has to die or be injured a lot, unlike the racing.

[btc78]

it is one of the most popular gambling in my location , there are even roosters near my house and outside my community.

they are conducting street betting for this from day to day and more on weekdays.

also the Online betting of this are rampant from the former years but now it is being banned.

maybe if there are offering now? i believe that there will be chance of this getting here in crypto gambling.

[yazher]

^

I absolutely agree with you, because I think animal fighting is unacceptable. This kind of entertainment has been considered normal in some countries for a long time, but animals don't have to die for entertainment. Nowadays, people can build good fighting robots suitable for this kind of entertainment and bet on them. Why this is still not being done is a big question.

This is one of the most overrated gambling games in our country and sometimes insects like spiders are no exception to them as long as they can play and bet on it. I think this kind of game is not really necessary because how can someone be happy seeing the animal hurt or most of the time get killed?

Animal cruelty should not be in any kind of industry unless they are slaughtered for food to be consumed.

But for the people who find it a money-making machine, they don't mind hosting an event where these cruelties happened all the time.

[len01]

maybe some people like cockfighting or goat fighting for money without seeing how sorry they are in fighting and sometimes to death.
To be honest, my family used to gamble on cockfights, but I didn't have the slightest interest when I saw the animals fighting like they were in pain and very sad. i would rather gamble in a casino or sports betting than have to pit innocent animals against each other.

and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the gambling platforms.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

In my country, there is a law of animal welfare, and against for animal cruelty such as horse and dog fight, but what, cock fighting is legal here. Only to those licensed cockpits in every sunday and some holidays.
Due to this is a huge business here and already part of the culture and tradition since many hundred years ago, i don't think if government will stop it or make a law against it since most politicians are only held to protect their businesses.

Cockfighting in my country isn’t new anymore and is certainly not an issue even if it’s considered a form of animal cruelty. The fact that it’s been legalized by the government and there are big names behind on it protecting, so it can’t be easily banned or stopped. However, on my own point of view, cockfighting is not just a form of animal cruelty but there are also a lot of crimes happening that is associated to cockfighting just like robbery, drug selling or using, and sometimes committing murder which made me see it as something that needs to be banned or something that should not be played in casinos.

Yeah, and probably that's one reason why those groups are really against cock fighting not only as a animal cruelty, but because it can really damage some lives, as you have said, like robbery or even worst, death.

So I guess, society is going to be divided in this kind of animal cruelty vs as part of tradition just like what the OP is trying to portray, that's how I understand it.

It will be a continuous topic for discussions, for every government around the world and it will be very difficult to stop this "animal cruelty".

[Betwrong]

~
and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the casino platforms.

If you mean online gambling platforms, I agree with you. I think cockfighting is a kind of a thing that people who enjoy seeing it, want to see it with their own eyes, not through a video camera. I wouldn't go so far to call them "perverts", but that's what comes to mind, to be honest. But that's me. I'm not a holder of the universal truth, and, after some working on myself, I'm far from thinking that I know better than anyone, what's right and what's wrong.

[Peanutswar]

maybe some people like cockfighting or goat fighting for money without seeing how sorry they are in fighting and sometimes to death.
To be honest, my family used to gamble on cockfights, but I didn't have the slightest interest when I saw the animals fighting like they were in pain and very sad. i would rather gamble in a casino or sports betting than have to pit innocent animals against each other.

and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the casino platforms.

I have never seen a goat fighting in my country most likely they are playing cockfighting only and you cannot remove this kind of gambling games to their because before there's no gambling casino already just a casual bet between with peer to peer games which they used to the cockfighting it is seems like a pet to them they built a good body shape, vitamins and etc. to let their chicken conquers the tournament most likely, and there's no probably chance that they will adopt this kind of thing because we know how elegance a gambling casino and they have different platforms with it seems like they are already independent like the horse race game.

[stadus]

I'm not into games where animals are involved because for me, they also deserve to live and they don't have to sacrifice their lives for our selfish desires but we can't stop these gambling games because they are already part of our culture.

That's what others don't understand and they will just stick with their loving the animals' stuff and being an animal patriot.

If they don't like that game, these people don't have to say "stop this game" but rather respect other countries' beliefs.

There are lots of worst cultures out there compare to cockfighting. People should not stress themselves if they don't like this type of gambling game.

Exactly! There are lots of entertainment or sports that uses animals as the subject, stopping these kinds of sports/entertainment will take you at least centuries before you can start making slight changes. Even the famous and prestigious horse racing cannot be put on halt these days because it's already part of the history and culture, if you're an animal lover or conservative enough to go against these kinds of stuffs then you should start owning some of these animals to take care of them and to save them. Some people are just too talkative on the internet or better known as keyboard warriors but in reality, they cannot even feed or save stray cats or dogs.

[Japinat]

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? 

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

I also think luck is a huge factor in this game.  Since cockfighting is modified by equipping blades on the legs of the rooster,  other rooster are not comfortable wearing it so as a result there are some incidents of self-afflicted damage that can result in the death of a roster.  This sometimes happen when the dominant rooster shuffle the almost beaten opponent that is lying on the ground.  The dominant rooster often hit its neck that can result to insta-death of the rooster.

Another case of luck case is the fighting strategy of a cock.  Since most owners are not aware of how the cock fight, there is a chance that their rooster fight style is countered by the opposing rooster's fight style.  There are lots of cases that luck can apply on the cockfigting game.  One that I experienced was that the blade was wrongly equipped on our rooster making it not deal damage even though it should be a clear hit.

Yes, if it is not a luck-based game then what is it? I think it's clear that it's classified as a luck-based game because even if your rooster came from a strong breed that previously won different tournaments, its chances may somehow increase but its vulnerability is the same as the game is based on who will survive last or who will inflict the most stab from that blade they're equipped.

[AakZaki]

Seriously, what's the fun about cock fight game? it's animal abuse and that's not fun at all.

It's sad to see a cock that doesn't did anything wrong being forced to fight with each other until of them them sick or dead, while the owner will just looking for new cock again. I think any countries has a law about animals, if you see someone do this game, you can report it to police and they will arrest this dirty people.

I guess their motive is money. Maybe if you want to know directly you can ask them. Just watch them bet on their chickens. Then if their chickens win of course The price of their chickens will go up, they can earn more money.
My country banned cockfighting, even the police have arrested some of those activities. But it doesn't stop either, it seems that it is already a disease that is difficult to get rid of. Or maybe they've even bribed the police into keeping quiet.

[arimamib]

For me personally this type of Cock fighting bet is not that challenging. Even though some of my friends really like being around the Cock fighting arena and placing bets on one of the cocks, I just watch it without making any bets there.
I prefer betting in casinos and it is more challenging for me, self involved play is more fulfilling for me than placing bets on Cock fighting.

[Sithara007]

maybe some people like cockfighting or goat fighting for money without seeing how sorry they are in fighting and sometimes to death.
To be honest, my family used to gamble on cockfights, but I didn't have the slightest interest when I saw the animals fighting like they were in pain and very sad. i would rather gamble in a casino or sports betting than have to pit innocent animals against each other.

and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the casino platforms.

Well... in some places, it is a part of local traditions. Where I live, during old days we used to have rooster fights. However nowadays everyone seems to have forgotten about it. Even in other states within India, there are similar traditions. Some of the states have bull-fight as their premier cultural symbol, while some have goat fights. Obviously there is a lot of friction between the traditionalists and the animal rights activists, with sometimes things getting physical. For my part, I believe that local traditions should be viewed as an exception and allowed to continue.

[BobK71]

maybe some people like cockfighting or goat fighting for money without seeing how sorry they are in fighting and sometimes to death.
To be honest, my family used to gamble on cockfights, but I didn't have the slightest interest when I saw the animals fighting like they were in pain and very sad. i would rather gamble in a casino or sports betting than have to pit innocent animals against each other.

and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the casino platforms.

Well... in some places, it is a part of local traditions. Where I live, during old days we used to have rooster fights. However nowadays everyone seems to have forgotten about it. Even in other states within India, there are similar traditions. Some of the states have bull-fight as their premier cultural symbol, while some have goat fights. Obviously there is a lot of friction between the traditionalists and the animal rights activists, with sometimes things getting physical. For my part, I believe that local traditions should be viewed as an exception and allowed to continue.

If it is a traditional matter it can be observed and acceptable. But when it is considered a game of gambling outside the tradition, there is a different view. Moreover, if it is observed as a tradition, it can be conduct on any specific day of the year or according to the authority. Which can happen once in any particular place by announcing whole village but if people spread the influence of gambling and can be organized again and again which is considered injustice to animals.

[madnessteat]

^

I absolutely agree with you, because I think animal fighting is unacceptable. This kind of entertainment has been considered normal in some countries for a long time, but animals don't have to die for entertainment. Nowadays, people can build good fighting robots suitable for this kind of entertainment and bet on them. Why this is still not being done is a big question.

This is one of the most overrated gambling games in our country and sometimes insects like spiders are no exception to them as long as they can play and bet on it. I think this kind of game is not really necessary because how can someone be happy seeing the animal hurt or most of the time get killed?

Animal cruelty should not be in any kind of industry unless they are slaughtered for food to be consumed.

But for the people who find it a money-making machine, they don't mind hosting an event where these cruelties happened all the time.

I don't even go to the circus if animals perform there, but I gladly attend circus performances in which only humans participate - acrobats, tightrope walkers, clowns, etc. as I believe that animals should not be exploited by humans for entertainment.

 If your authorities really wanted to eradicate this kind of entertainment, they would impose severe penalties not only for organizing fights, but also for participating in the betting on these fights.

I think that a few big arrests and a few months in prison would be enough to discourage the organizers from engaging in this kind of fighting.

[goldkingcoiner]

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? 

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

I also think luck is a huge factor in this game.  Since cockfighting is modified by equipping blades on the legs of the rooster,  other rooster are not comfortable wearing it so as a result there are some incidents of self-afflicted damage that can result in the death of a roster.  This sometimes happen when the dominant rooster shuffle the almost beaten opponent that is lying on the ground.  The dominant rooster often hit its neck that can result to insta-death of the rooster.

Another case of luck case is the fighting strategy of a cock.  Since most owners are not aware of how the cock fight, there is a chance that their rooster fight style is countered by the opposing rooster's fight style.  There are lots of cases that luck can apply on the cockfigting game.  One that I experienced was that the blade was wrongly equipped on our rooster making it not deal damage even though it should be a clear hit.

Yes, if it is not a luck-based game then what is it? I think it's clear that it's classified as a luck-based game because even if your rooster came from a strong breed that previously won different tournaments, its chances may somehow increase but its vulnerability is the same as the game is based on who will survive last or who will inflict the most stab from that blade they're equipped.

Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm. So I imagine that they need to introduce chaos into the system itself before it can be called "luck-based" And if they do not, then they implement a game which can be beaten with skill, and obviously any AI that is able to figure out the game itself will render the casino penniless, seeing as the client side would win everytime just by cheating his "skill"...

In real life, every cock is different. You cannot really emulate that each individual skill.

[Fatunad]

For me personally this type of Cock fighting bet is not that challenging. Even though some of my friends really like being around the Cock fighting arena and placing bets on one of the cocks, I just watch it without making any bets there.
I prefer betting in casinos and it is more challenging for me, self involved play is more fulfilling for me than placing bets on Cock fighting.

Im on this situation too on which i had tested out on going into a cockfighting arena and going along with my friends.While they do make out some bets then i dont really have the feels or liking to
make out bets basing on this kind of gambling where everybody around is really that shouting and being impulsive on placing up their bets.I dont really see the interest in me when
tending to bet up on these animal fight type of gambling.I dont see for it to be interesting or entertaining which it do boggles up on why other people are really that
dying on making a bet even on the smallest amount as possible and even some do bet up millions which is totally absurd.

[rahmad2nd]

maybe some people like cockfighting or goat fighting for money without seeing how sorry they are in fighting and sometimes to death.
To be honest, my family used to gamble on cockfights, but I didn't have the slightest interest when I saw the animals fighting like they were in pain and very sad. i would rather gamble in a casino or sports betting than have to pit innocent animals against each other.

and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the casino platforms.

Well... in some places, it is a part of local traditions. Where I live, during old days we used to have rooster fights. However nowadays everyone seems to have forgotten about it. Even in other states within India, there are similar traditions. Some of the states have bull-fight as their premier cultural symbol, while some have goat fights. Obviously there is a lot of friction between the traditionalists and the animal rights activists, with sometimes things getting physical. For my part, I believe that local traditions should be viewed as an exception and allowed to continue.

In one of the provinces in my country, cockfighting is part of the traditional ceremony.
Tajen, that's how the Balinese call it. cockfighting tradition there, usually only held on certain days. Cockfighting in one area of ​​my country is related to sincere holy sacrifices for Bhuta Kala. so this tradition has nothing to do with gambling, this tradition has been around since ancient times. however, in other regions or areas of the province. cockfighting, being part of the traditional gambling tradition.

Now, everything has been banned and become illegal except in one area that I mentioned above. Cockfighting gambling activities have been banned, anyone caught will be subject to criminal sanctions. after all, in this era of advanced technology. there are many more fun entertainment options, there are online casinos with a variety of betting games in them. why adopt a tradition and culture that only tortures animals, which actually the animals have the right to live freely.

[Distinctin]

It's very common in our country and there are even online casinos that are focused only on this type of match. I'm not into it but there's been a big issue about it because that owner of roosters that are cheating, they're releasing in the cockpit a weak rooster, and then they'll bet on the opponent's side. There are a lot of those people involved that have been kidnapped and until now, no one knows about their whereabouts.

I bet you are from an Asian country as I have heard issues about it too. I should say I am not into cockfighting too because maybe that’s not my type of the game. And if ask if it should be given to play in casinos, I think it would hardly happen because it’s now starting to be banned because of some associated negative feedbacks about it. And to think that it’s way more beyond from protecting our animals, definitely it should never be encouraged to become seen in casinos.

[bisdak40]

Seriously, what's the fun about cock fight game? it's animal abuse and that's not fun at all.

It's sad to see a cock that doesn't did anything wrong being forced to fight with each other until of them them sick or dead, while the owner will just looking for new cock again. I think any countries has a law about animals, if you see someone do this game, you can report it to police and they will arrest this dirty people.

I guess their motive is money. Maybe if you want to know directly you can ask them. Just watch them bet on their chickens. Then if their chickens win of course The price of their chickens will go up, they can earn more money.
My country banned cockfighting, even the police have arrested some of those activities. But it doesn't stop either, it seems that it is already a disease that is difficult to get rid of. Or maybe they've even bribed the police into keeping quiet.

One thing to note to those who did not know, when two cocks meet in the wild they will fight to the death, that is their instinct and they are not forced to fight each other. Some even said that it is a form of cruelty if you don't allow cocks to fight, funny but there's some truth to it if you see/know the characteristics of these birds.

This kind of activity is existing in out country for centuries ago that I don't think would stop immediately because of some people protesting for the welfare of those birds because like i said before, this industry generates billions of pesos and many families rely on this industry, they will starve if stopped abruptly.

Police and politician are also involve in this industry so this makes this thing even harder to stop. Manny Pacquiao, a champion boxer turned politician used to have a gamefowl farm which was too big that a company of goons have to guard it hehe.


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[Sandra_hakeem]

No!!! I haven't been involved or seen physically how these ordeal is conducted but I know for sure that I have seen a couple of times ; how it's done and I always keep wondering how those animals are made to fight themselves...lol
It's a cool game though but you are not gonna really have that in the outskirts of some metropolitan cities and towns, like you have casinos and it's look like some sort of local bar-betting games. When I watch the seriousness on the faces of those bettors and, how those animals would strain every bit of strength they've got, just to liverage their bettors -- it's almost a WONDER in my little world. I've really watched scorpion fight though.

Sandra 🧑

[Lanatsa]

It's very common in our country and there are even online casinos that are focused only on this type of match. I'm not into it but there's been a big issue about it because that owner of roosters that are cheating, they're releasing in the cockpit a weak rooster, and then they'll bet on the opponent's side. There are a lot of those people involved that have been kidnapped and until now, no one knows about their whereabouts.

I bet you are from an Asian country as I have heard issues about it too. I should say I am not into cockfighting too because maybe that’s not my type of the game. And if ask if it should be given to play in casinos, I think it would hardly happen because it’s now starting to be banned because of some associated negative feedbacks about it. And to think that it’s way more beyond from protecting our animals, definitely it should never be encouraged to become seen in casinos.

Each countries does have their own taking when it comes to animal cruelty or safety as we do all know but as part of culture then there are places whom do really make these things as traditional stuff which it

might be looked so cruel on some people but there are ones who could tolerate and get used to it for the sake of entertainment.Some might be that entertained and some might not.

So if you do see this stuff to be that too dangerous or not ethical then its your choice to make whether you would be betting on it or not.
Just like the rest been saying that this is rampant in most Asian countries.

[Hispo]

Exactly, they're taking revenge on those people and they presume that they're scammers that make them lose money. Those people that have been reported were never found and even the government had already stepped on it and did an investigation but it did nothing.

Man, that is insane. The government can't even stop neither the scammers nor the kidnappers?
Here people cannot try to scam people like that, they would not last a week (and they know it), very disgusting and unfair. At least, here most of the times people get "fair" fights.

Yup, that's the sad reality. It seems that there's a bigger authority that's behind all of those kidnappings. They can stop the operations but about the kidnappings, it's left as a mystery who's behind related to this issue.

The deeper I dive into this thread about cockfighting the more I convince myself it should be banned in my country and leave animals out of betting. Perhaps, with the exception of horse races. 

It's a brutal sport for the animals, one has to die or be injured a lot, unlike the racing.

So you are implying there must be some people in positions of power behind those kidnappings, like governors or mayors of a city. Politicians?
Don't you mind to share what country are you from?

It sounds like a bit of a dangerous place to live.

Also, how often do those fights are organized? Because here, it is usually on weekends.

[danherbias07]

For me personally this type of Cock fighting bet is not that challenging. Even though some of my friends really like being around the Cock fighting arena and placing bets on one of the cocks, I just watch it without making any bets there.
I prefer betting in casinos and it is more challenging for me, self involved play is more fulfilling for me than placing bets on Cock fighting.

It becomes more challenging when you are the owner of the rooster that will be fighting. Months of taking care of it, training, and giving it vitamins to be stronger and make you money.
I heard stories just a week ago from my neighbors that it's different when you are inside the cock fighting pit. When you are winning, it's getting more difficult to just run away and take the profits, you will keep on betting until the end of the whole session. If there are 10-20 fights, expect that you will be there for half of it or maybe the whole time.
Way different than online cock fight betting.

[Reatim]

Police and politician are also involve in this industry so this makes this thing even harder to stop. Manny Pacquiao, a champion boxer turned politician used to have a gamefowl farm which was too big that a company of goons have to guard it hehe.

this is true that the involvement of Big fishes and politicians makes this gambling famous and untouchable for many years , though we are talking about crypto adoption here yet this may be transform in any time soon.
because like in our government that the online Cock fight had been closed but still there are plenty of operators that runs this and completely operating still .

[Kakmakr]

I thought all forms of gambling are prohibited in the Muslim religion? In any way... I have watched some Cock fighting in real life, not in a gambling setting.. but on a farm and it is not something that I would bet on. 

The Cock fighting sport remains legal in Puerto Rico and in such countries as the Philippines and the Dominican Republic, where cockfighting clubs operate around the country.

The Animal Anti-Cruelty organizations will object to any kind of gambling that are done, where animals are harmed or killed for Sports betting. There are more than enough Sport to gamble on, without having to harm animals ....so let's keep it that way. 

[ethereumhunter]

Police and politician are also involve in this industry so this makes this thing even harder to stop. Manny Pacquiao, a champion boxer turned politician used to have a gamefowl farm which was too big that a company of goons have to guard it hehe.

this is true that the involvement of Big fishes and politicians makes this gambling famous and untouchable for many years , though we are talking about crypto adoption here yet this may be transform in any time soon.
because like in our government that the online Cock fight had been closed but still there are plenty of operators that runs this and completely operating still .

That's because they also play in a place unknown to the authorities so that they can play freely and have a relationship with the authorities. That's what allows cockfighting to survive in various places and provides a big advantage for the owner of the gambling establishment. And even though online cockfighting has shut down, other online casinos can still host online cockfighting and gamblers will know where to look. So it will take time to find and investigate where it is so that the authorities can immediately arrest it.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Yeah, I could still remember these....
The memories back then, when I'd visit remote areas in the rural communities, where they've got a cheif and a council of elders(and that's like a system of government in there....I believe that decisions are made based on the standing sovereignty).
After some menial entertainments, they sat me out, in a shed -- where some kids gathered around me at first,(Maybe they thought I'm also a mother like their mom? So they kept staring in confusion or, rather surprise), then the atmosphere was right and it was time for their night play -- it' started and they displayed a whole lot of cultural performances and lastly, it was the Scorpion fight.....(they did that as a means of entertainment though, nobody placed a bet on 'em)

Sandra 🧑

[Peanutswar]

Seriously, what's the fun about cock fight game? it's animal abuse and that's not fun at all.

It's sad to see a cock that doesn't did anything wrong being forced to fight with each other until of them them sick or dead, while the owner will just looking for new cock again. I think any countries has a law about animals, if you see someone do this game, you can report it to police and they will arrest this dirty people.

I guess their motive is money. Maybe if you want to know directly you can ask them. Just watch them bet on their chickens. Then if their chickens win of course The price of their chickens will go up, they can earn more money.
My country banned cockfighting, even the police have arrested some of those activities. But it doesn't stop either, it seems that it is already a disease that is difficult to get rid of. Or maybe they've even bribed the police into keeping quiet.

One thing to note to those who did not know, when two cocks meet in the wild they will fight to the death, that is their instinct and they are not forced to fight each other. Some even said that it is a form of cruelty if you don't allow cocks to fight, funny but there's some truth to it if you see/know the characteristics of these birds.

This kind of activity is existing in out country for centuries ago that I don't think would stop immediately because of some people protesting for the welfare of those birds because like i said before, this industry generates billions of pesos and many families rely on this industry, they will starve if stopped abruptly.

Police and politician are also involve in this industry so this makes this thing even harder to stop. Manny Pacquiao, a champion boxer turned politician used to have a gamefowl farm which was too big that a company of goons have to guard it hehe.

Here in the Philippines there are a lot of big names involved with this kind of game because its all about not the cock fight only its also to gather connections with different parties which is good for politics and investment with their assets, even big names make a huge amount of bet with this game, also there's some hidden transactions happen like the recent news of the cockfighting there's a lot of people go because they lose a single game, but this is another topic. Also having this game is permitted and regulated that's why only illegal gambling of cockfight is prohibited and only the one who cater or support only have the protection.

[stadus]

It's very common in our country and there are even online casinos that are focused only on this type of match. I'm not into it but there's been a big issue about it because that owner of roosters that are cheating, they're releasing in the cockpit a weak rooster, and then they'll bet on the opponent's side. There are a lot of those people involved that have been kidnapped and until now, no one knows about their whereabouts.

I bet you are from an Asian country as I have heard issues about it too. I should say I am not into cockfighting too because maybe that’s not my type of the game. And if ask if it should be given to play in casinos, I think it would hardly happen because it’s now starting to be banned because of some associated negative feedbacks about it. And to think that it’s way more beyond from protecting our animals, definitely it should never be encouraged to become seen in casinos.

Even regular people will know that issue, it is quite a big mess knowing that there's a lot of cock handlers who are reported to be missing and up to this moment, the case is not yet solved and slowly by slowly, that same issue will be forgotten because the families of the missing agents are not making any fuss anymore and it's been speculated that they've handed cold hard cash by the people behind it. Even the government and its police seems not looking into it as well.

These days, the online casino that are focused on cockfighting is slowly getting back to its normal phase. For now, they are still operating under the government's radar because of the said ban but they are looking forward to see that ban lifted so that they will surface again. It's really not that far from happening because the government can use the humungous revenues generated by this casino but the consequence is just too hard to accept.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm.

If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight.
And this game can be integrated into a programmable form into online gambling

[harizen]

If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight.

That's what you called "upset" since if by luck, an underdog cock can land its "tari" (a metal pointed blade attached to a fighting cock's legs) into an opening spot and that means a sure Knock Out already. However, you can't rely on that most of the time that's why it's still better to refer to the fighting cocks' record and stats. It was an effective strategy most of the time although expect low odds for favorites (sometimes between 1.7 to 1.8 depending on the number of bettors on that round).

However, there are some flaws in this game too especially in manipulating the result. One way is thru the involvement of what we called here as "saltador" (the one that acts as a referee) where during the verdict stage, he might possibly give the other cock additional injury to somehow weakened and lose that match. There are lots of professional "saltador" here where even in front of the camera, they can hide their tricks.

Note: The terms I used here and a bit of shared gameplay are based on our country's way of doing cockfighting. I'm not sure how cockfighting is being played in other countries.

[Lanatsa]

Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm.

If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight.
And this game can be integrated into a programmable form into online gambling

Size doesnt really matter on cockfighting but rather would be entirely depending on how that rooster had been trained off plus having that good body condition.I dont know on how these cock trainers do train out their cocks but its true that luck would be always take up a huge factor on determining the winner of the said fight.

We know that lucky hits could happen specially on a cockfight game where blades had been used into their feet and on the time that they do fight then we
cant really guarantee on whose gonna win.

This is what makes those bettors really been thrilled when making up these kind of bets which some people do discriminate nor having negative
impressions because of that animal cruelty thing.

[chaser15]

Size doesnt really matter on cockfighting but rather would be entirely depending on how that rooster had been trained off plus having that good body condition.I dont know on how these cock trainers do train out their cocks but its true that luck would be always take up a huge factor on determining the winner of the said fight.

Game cocks are being treated with regular vitamins and supplements to help its muscle grow especially in the leg area as that was where the blade is attached. With strong legs too, these cocks will improve their leaping ability which is a good advantage. The physical training is done thru fighting with other game cocks but of course, without the metal blade attached to its legs.

I've already witnessed and seen several practices and training related to this many times as it was a common hobby back then during my childhood days in the 90s when there was even a practice right directly on the street.

That's how expensive this kind of activity is for the owners. Here in our country, cockfighting is one of the biggest gambling industry here.

[Silberman]

Police and politician are also involve in this industry so this makes this thing even harder to stop. Manny Pacquiao, a champion boxer turned politician used to have a gamefowl farm which was too big that a company of goons have to guard it hehe.

this is true that the involvement of Big fishes and politicians makes this gambling famous and untouchable for many years , though we are talking about crypto adoption here yet this may be transform in any time soon.
because like in our government that the online Cock fight had been closed but still there are plenty of operators that runs this and completely operating still .

What happens is that those kind of illegal events are organized regionally, so a central government has a lot of problems trying to eradicate it as the local authorities not only are not very cooperative but they also hinder their efforts, so they can never find the farms in which the animals are kept or the place where the fights are held, which is a shame as cock fights are clearly a case of animal cruelty as animals die or are maimed during those fights.

[Ben Barubal]

For me personally this type of Cock fighting bet is not that challenging. Even though some of my friends really like being around the Cock fighting arena and placing bets on one of the cocks, I just watch it without making any bets there.
I prefer betting in casinos and it is more challenging for me, self involved play is more fulfilling for me than placing bets on Cock fighting.

  It may not be a thrill for you, but for others, it is exciting for them, the others even raise high-breed chickens that will be fought like that and then bet a large amount of money.

Although we are also not interested in his kind of gambling. I remembered the first time I watched a chicken fight, the noise around me, I could still hear what I was talking about, but when the fight started, it was very noisy and almost everyone was shouting because of their excitement.

[len01]

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In one of the provinces in my country, cockfighting is part of the traditional ceremony.
Tajen, that's how the Balinese call it. cockfighting tradition there, usually only held on certain days. Cockfighting in one area of ​​my country is related to sincere holy sacrifices for Bhuta Kala. so this tradition has nothing to do with gambling, this tradition has been around since ancient times. however, in other regions or areas of the province. cockfighting, being part of the traditional gambling tradition.

Now, everything has been banned and become illegal except in one area that I mentioned above. Cockfighting gambling activities have been banned, anyone caught will be subject to criminal sanctions. after all, in this era of advanced technology. there are many more fun entertainment options, there are online casinos with a variety of betting games in them. why adopt a tradition and culture that only tortures animals, which actually the animals have the right to live freely.

oh yes I know about the tradition in Bali.
Cockfighting in Bali is not only limited to entertainment or entertainment, but it is carried out according to sacred traditions which are carried out on certain days.
If cockfighting is done for tradition, I will appreciate it because indeed it is an ancient tradition that is mandatory. anyways it's not done every day or every time.


I agree with you that there are lots of very interesting gambling games and I don't think it is necessary to involve innocent animals for the sake of entertainment and for the benefit of gambling

[ethereumhunter]

For me personally this type of Cock fighting bet is not that challenging. Even though some of my friends really like being around the Cock fighting arena and placing bets on one of the cocks, I just watch it without making any bets there.
I prefer betting in casinos and it is more challenging for me, self involved play is more fulfilling for me than placing bets on Cock fighting.

  It may not be a thrill for you, but for others, it is exciting for them, the others even raise high-breed chickens that will be fought like that and then bet a large amount of money.

Although we are also not interested in his kind of gambling. I remembered the first time I watched a chicken fight, the noise around me, I could still hear what I was talking about, but when the fight started, it was very noisy and almost everyone was shouting because of their excitement.

This is what makes cockfighting still one of the traditional bets that attract the interest of many people because there is a tense factor there. But I didn't have the heart to watch it, let alone place a bet on one of the chickens. I prefer to watch people play cards in a casino and even though I don't place bets, it is a joy. Yes, betting on cockfights is very busy because everyone has his choice and wants them to win.

[Ondekinecakabilirim]

All animals have the right to life. It's not right to use them in deadly fights. It is unacceptable even to do it in ancient times. It is very sad to hear about such incidents in modern times. Anyone can bet with modern technological methods instead of harming animals. Because today, almost everyone has a smartphone in their pocket. And almost everyone has access to the Internet. It saddens me to hear such incidents in the modern age. Such a gamble would never be fun for me. I never took such a gamble. And I would never gamble like that. I would never go to a casino that organizes such a gamble. I have to admit that I am disappointed that such a gamble is considered normal.

[Gozie51]

Although we are also not interested in his kind of gambling. I remembered the first time I watched a chicken fight, the noise around me, I could still hear what I was talking about, but when the fight started, it was very noisy and almost everyone was shouting because of their excitement.

It is barbaric actually to watch this kind of fight that has no referee to separate them . The fight sometimes becomes very intense and you see them bleeding from the crown and the head altogether. It is not a thing that we should be encouraging. Some people don't watch horror films because of the fear and blood that is seen and that is how it looks when watching two chicken killing themselves in fighting while betting on them is on.

[Jemzx00]

All animals have the right to life. It's not right to use them in deadly fights. It is unacceptable even to do it in ancient times. It is very sad to hear about such incidents in modern times. Anyone can bet with modern technological methods instead of harming animals. Because today, almost everyone has a smartphone in their pocket. And almost everyone has access to the Internet. It saddens me to hear such incidents in the modern age. Such a gamble would never be fun for me. I never took such a gamble. And I would never gamble like that. I would never go to a casino that organizes such a gamble. I have to admit that I am disappointed that such a gamble is considered normal.

Unfortunately, the statement "All animals have the right to life." isn't true. These chickens or cock will die either way even if they will not be used on these fights. They will serve as a meal for almost everyone, the same goes to most animals that are used for consumption.

What's wrong with cock fights are the unnecessary violence which will cause these animals to be hurt. That's also what most animal activist fight for since these animals can feel pain unlike other animals that don't. If they should be killed, it should be humane and painless or quick.

[serjent05]

Size doesnt really matter on cockfighting but rather would be entirely depending on how that rooster had been trained off plus having that good body condition.I dont know on how these cock trainers do train out their cocks but its true that luck would be always take up a huge factor on determining the winner of the said fight.

In a fighting cocks size does matter because they can hit harder, just like in boxing, bigger cocks can kill their opponent in one go since they hit harder and can pierce the opponent deeper or cut through the flesh of their opponent easily. I believe this is another reason why the cocks are paired according to weight[1].

We know that lucky hits could happen specially on a cockfight game where blades had been used into their feet and on the time that they do fight then we
cant really guarantee on whose gonna win.

True, it is a matter of luck and skill of the rooster.

This is what makes those bettors really been thrilled when making up these kind of bets which some people do discriminate nor having negative
impressions because of that animal cruelty thing.

No, I think the bloodbath scene makes the bettor thrilled about this kind of gambling.  If they wanted excitement, slots game gives more variety of results and are specifically based on luck.  I think it is the scene of watching two cocks fight to the death that makes them thrilled.


[1] http://www.stuartxchange.org/Sabong

[jakelyson]

Size doesnt really matter on cockfighting but rather would be entirely depending on how that rooster had been trained off plus having that good body condition.I dont know on how these cock trainers do train out their cocks but its true that luck would be always take up a huge factor on determining the winner of the said fight.

Size matters because it has an advantage over smaller fowl. But in "ulutan", you should be wise in choosing your opponent. The longer the legs of the opponent, the harder it is to beat. They have a reach advantage, so size does matter. It is more even in derby because they have a range in weight, which makes the fowls more likely to be the same size.

Other factors count too. Like the bloodline of the fowl, health issues, conditioning, and the position of the gaff. If the gaffer is inexperienced, he may not get the right position for sure kill hits. Luck is a factor too, but sometimes it is dismissed because if you have a strong bloodline and well-conditioned fowl, the chance of winning is a lot higher.

What happens is that those kind of illegal events are organized regionally, so a central government has a lot of problems trying to eradicate it as the local authorities not only are not very cooperative but they also hinder their efforts, so they can never find the farms in which the animals are kept or the place where the fights are held, which is a shame as cock fights are clearly a case of animal cruelty as animals die or are maimed during those fights.

It is not hard to find farms of fighting fowl. They even have regular TV shows in our country. They announce Breeders of the Year, and they feature good farms to teach backyard breeders the proper way of taking care of their own fowls.

It is also not that hard to find illegal cock fights, because cockfights are very noisy. You can hear the shouts of gamblers from very far. If there is a good group of cockfight gamblers, you can hear them a kilometer away. You can just follow the noise and you will find them. It is just an accepted practice in some provinces though, even if it is illegal. It is a weekly activity, so if the cops really want to put a stop to it, they just have to put effort 1 day per week to catch the organizers and some gamblers.

[harizen]

Size matters because it has an advantage over smaller fowl. But in "ulutan", you should be wise in choosing your opponent. The longer the legs of the opponent, the harder it is to beat. They have a reach advantage, so size does matter. It is more even in derby because they have a range in weight, which makes the fowls more likely to be the same size.

This is correct. Since the main weapon is attached to the legs, reaching advantage is very important.

Having a big size too means that the fighting cock is really taken care of and treated well with boosters, vitamins, supplements, etc.

However, in most cases, it seems rare to see that in a certain match, we will notice a much big size difference between 2 cocks that will set to fight. There's a category or sort of brackets at this match, of course, to balance everything.

[Chikito]

All animals have the right to life. It's not right to use them in deadly fights. It is unacceptable even to do it in ancient times. It is very sad to hear about such incidents in modern times. Anyone can bet with modern technological methods instead of harming animals. Because today, almost everyone has a smartphone in their pocket. And almost everyone has access to the Internet. It saddens me to hear such incidents in the modern age. Such a gamble would never be fun for me. I never took such a gamble. And I would never gamble like that. I would never go to a casino that organizes such a gamble. I have to admit that I am disappointed that such a gamble is considered normal.

We live in a world filled with various cultures, maybe this is one of the various others or maybe even more extreme out there and we can't prevent it. I wouldn't ever use it also even rats, birds, or fish, but we can't avoid to see this daily when live on that culture, we can't forbid it when everyone like it, and in fact, if we forced everyone to not use it, we will get hate and be excommunicated from the community.

[AicecreaME]

All animals have the right to life. It's not right to use them in deadly fights. It is unacceptable even to do it in ancient times. It is very sad to hear about such incidents in modern times. Anyone can bet with modern technological methods instead of harming animals. Because today, almost everyone has a smartphone in their pocket. And almost everyone has access to the Internet. It saddens me to hear such incidents in the modern age. Such a gamble would never be fun for me. I never took such a gamble. And I would never gamble like that. I would never go to a casino that organizes such a gamble. I have to admit that I am disappointed that such a gamble is considered normal.

We live in a world filled with various cultures, maybe this is one of the various others or maybe even more extreme out there and we can't prevent it. I wouldn't ever use it also even rats, birds, or fish, but we can't avoid to see this daily when live on that culture, we can't forbid it when everyone like it, and in fact, if we forced everyone to not use it, we will get hate and be excommunicated from the community.

Valid point.

Everyone has their own culture and tradition they grew up with and preferred to live up to today. We really have no control over other people's decision about these things because it's still a matter of preference and viewpoint. If it is considered to be legal in your country and the operators you have are operating legally and have proper documents and permits to let them hold such organized events of cock fighting, then do what suits you best. If that's how you get entertainment from, I won't impose my beliefs on you.

But personally, I'd rather play casino games or sports betting rather engaging in gambling betting involving animal cruelty. Although this is just me, since I can't really take violence and cruelty among animals who can grant permission on their end. As long as it isn't prohibited by the government, then we have a little to worry about because if it is legal, then they have the means to regulate it.

[Fundamentals Of]

I am not a big fan of animal fighting. It might be fun to watch but it could also be painful to see them suffering simply because of the useless human desire to gamble. Imagine rams dying or seriously injured because their owners want them to fight. But that's not for me to judge. In my opinion, it is not that interesting but I'm also aware that it's part of other people's culture. I respect that also.

But this couldn't be introduced in a casino probably because it is not a very acceptable form of gambling. Horse racing or dog racing would be all right but not those animal games that involve them dying.

[BobK71]

All animals have the right to life. It's not right to use them in deadly fights. It is unacceptable even to do it in ancient times. It is very sad to hear about such incidents in modern times. Anyone can bet with modern technological methods instead of harming animals. Because today, almost everyone has a smartphone in their pocket. And almost everyone has access to the Internet. It saddens me to hear such incidents in the modern age. Such a gamble would never be fun for me. I never took such a gamble. And I would never gamble like that. I would never go to a casino that organizes such a gamble. I have to admit that I am disappointed that such a gamble is considered normal.

We live in a world filled with various cultures, maybe this is one of the various others or maybe even more extreme out there and we can't prevent it. I wouldn't ever use it also even rats, birds, or fish, but we can't avoid to see this daily when live on that culture, we can't forbid it when everyone like it, and in fact, if we forced everyone to not use it, we will get hate and be excommunicated from the community.

Yes, when the game is allowed by a large community, it is not possible to implement anything good or evil. If the local people do not agree.  you will never be able to stop those games. Where some people are enjoying the pleasure. However, I will not consider the games of the players who have a threat to playing the game and when i will not control this situation, definitely will hate it silently. I consider it is a death trap of animal not the game.

[yazher]

I am not a big fan of animal fighting. It might be fun to watch but it could also be painful to see them suffering simply because of the useless human desire to gamble. Imagine rams dying or seriously injured because their owners want them to fight. But that's not for me to judge. In my opinion, it is not that interesting but I'm also aware that it's part of other people's culture. I respect that also.

But this couldn't be introduced in a casino probably because it is not a very acceptable form of gambling. Horse racing or dog racing would be all right but not those animal games that involve them dying.

They don't often don't show the state of the animals after the fight because they know what will gonna happen when the public concern will gonna do something and that would be the end of their brutal games for the animals. I remember one time in school when I catch some wild spiders in the tree when I was young, A man came and get all of my spiders and he let them all go without getting any explanations from me. He might have thought that I might gonna use it for gambling but in reality, I will gonna keep them as a pet back then. If only most people will act like him, especially those people that are in the government, they will gonna support these kinds of cruel acts against the animals but we know that most of them prefer to get money from those envelopes rather than stop them.

[GxSTxV]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Come on you can't be serious? How do you enjoy seeing animals fighting and getting killed and you enjoy it ! If you are a real muslim you know that any kind of gambling or hurting animals is forbiden to do without any excuse
That shouldn't be legal no matter what animal you're using to gamble with since they have no rules of security and safe measures like for example gambling in UFC fights that has rules and fighters there are well trained.
You wouldn't like that someone take you and put you in a cage and make you fight to death with someone else! So why doing it to animals. It's no fun at all
But i still see that in most Muslim countries too even that they know it's forbiden in islam. In my region they are using sheeps to fight and most of the time they end up dying with very bad injuries since they are using their head. The seen is terrible but people enjoys it and gamble for it.

[Betwrong]

Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm.

If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight.
And this game can be integrated into a programmable form into online gambling

Luck is a factor in everything, but compared to purely luck-based games, cock fighting is definitely not one of them. It can be compared to MMA fighting, you are right, but the big difference is that MMA fighters voluntarily take part in the event, while roosters are basically forced to participate.

[Genemind]

It's very common in our country and there are even online casinos that are focused only on this type of match. I'm not into it but there's been a big issue about it because that owner of roosters that are cheating, they're releasing in the cockpit a weak rooster, and then they'll bet on the opponent's side. There are a lot of those people involved that have been kidnapped and until now, no one knows about their whereabouts.

I bet you are from an Asian country as I have heard issues about it too. I should say I am not into cockfighting too because maybe that’s not my type of the game. And if ask if it should be given to play in casinos, I think it would hardly happen because it’s now starting to be banned because of some associated negative feedbacks about it. And to think that it’s way more beyond from protecting our animals, definitely it should never be encouraged to become seen in casinos.

Even regular people will know that issue, it is quite a big mess knowing that there's a lot of cock handlers who are reported to be missing and up to this moment, the case is not yet solved and slowly by slowly, that same issue will be forgotten because the families of the missing agents are not making any fuss anymore and it's been speculated that they've handed cold hard cash by the people behind it. Even the government and its police seems not looking into it as well.

These days, the online casino that are focused on cockfighting is slowly getting back to its normal phase. For now, they are still operating under the government's radar because of the said ban but they are looking forward to see that ban lifted so that they will surface again. It's really not that far from happening because the government can use the humungous revenues generated by this casino but the consequence is just too hard to accept.

It involves a huge amount of amount that's why there must be someone with authority or even syndicates running cockpit operations. It could also be one of the reasons why police and the authorities take time to solve the issue because huge names are operating it and involved in the case. There's also news that family members of the missing agents are getting an offer (a huge amount of money) from the cockpit operator to keep their mouths shut or stop making fuss.

[Pamadar]

Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm.

If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight.
And this game can be integrated into a programmable form into online gambling

Luck is a factor in everything, but compared to purely luck-based games, cock fighting is definitely not one of them. It can be compared to MMA fighting, you are right, but the big difference is that MMA fighters voluntarily take part in the event, while roosters are basically forced to participate.

It's true, rosters are being raised to this fate, will receive extra care while in the conditioning period, but sadly when the time come, they will risk their life.

With cockfighting, roster's decision is always based with the owners, if they are willing to move and push
the fight, nothing can stop them.

Both the roster and the money that they will be going to use in betting for the fight are at risk. They spend
huge amount of money raising the roster then save money to bet.

[Kasabus]

All animals have the right to life. It's not right to use them in deadly fights. It is unacceptable even to do it in ancient times. It is very sad to hear about such incidents in modern times. Anyone can bet with modern technological methods instead of harming animals. Because today, almost everyone has a smartphone in their pocket. And almost everyone has access to the Internet. It saddens me to hear such incidents in the modern age. Such a gamble would never be fun for me. I never took such a gamble. And I would never gamble like that. I would never go to a casino that organizes such a gamble. I have to admit that I am disappointed that such a gamble is considered normal.

If only people had the same mindset as you had, then surely there would be no animals here on earth that will experience human cruelty just because they are born in a species that gets them no choice but to be involved into these cultural games. And if it would be so easy to boycott these kinds of games then I bet this kind of gamble were stopped decades ago, but no, it's already too late to stop these because it is already part of the culture. Just best for us to be neutral about it, the important thing is that we aren't supporting these kinds of cruelty just for the sake to entertain humans.

[ethereumhunter]

It involves a huge amount of amount that's why there must be someone with authority or even syndicates running cockpit operations. It could also be one of the reasons why police and the authorities take time to solve the issue because huge names are operating it and involved in the case. There's also news that family members of the missing agents are getting an offer (a huge amount of money) from the cockpit operator to keep their mouths shut or stop making fuss.

The problem is that several police and authorities are standing behind the organization. Hence, it is difficult for the authorities to investigate because every time they want to investigate, their steps will be deadlocked because their operations have been leaked. And it is very difficult to find out who leaked the operation because the organization is very good at hiding its agents to get valuable information from the authorities. The community thinks that the officials are not working optimally because we don't know what happened.

[noormcs5]

Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm.

If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight.
And this game can be integrated into a programmable form into online gambling

Luck is a factor in everything, but compared to purely luck-based games, cock fighting is definitely not one of them. It can be compared to MMA fighting, you are right, but the big difference is that MMA fighters voluntarily take part in the event, while roosters are basically forced to participate.

Cock fighting is not a luck based game, rather I will call it a game that cruel people love to play and bet on it. 

If you ask me, I will never be able to even watch this bloody game. How do people get amusement seeing these cock fight games? Also, can people sleep if they have won money on gambling on the blood of cocks.

[goldkingcoiner]

Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm.

If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight.
And this game can be integrated into a programmable form into online gambling

Luck is a factor in everything, but compared to purely luck-based games, cock fighting is definitely not one of them. It can be compared to MMA fighting, you are right, but the big difference is that MMA fighters voluntarily take part in the event, while roosters are basically forced to participate.

Cock fighting is not a luck based game, rather I will call it a game that cruel people love to play and bet on it. 

If you ask me, I will never be able to even watch this bloody game. How do people get amusement seeing these cock fight games? Also, can people sleep if they have won money on gambling on the blood of cocks.

I agree. It is quite a unnecessarily cruel game and I would not think that any regular western person would wish to play such a game. Our morals are quite different, which is why I believe that cock-fighting games are more popular out of cultural reasons than just some people being cruel for the sake of enjoyment. Although people can be very cruel indeed, so there may be people who enjoy watching animals suffer .

But we are talking about the virtual version of this game in this thread. So cruelty free, 100%. Unless the game develops consciousness. 

[MainIbem]

This could be very difficult to find it in the gambling site its more or less of a physical gambling game which must present different cocks and sometimes requires an app version to work effectively, most of the gambling site only operates on web version.
But maybe from this post most of the gambling would likely feature it in their site to make it looks more interesting and attractive.

[Mahanton]

Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm.

If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight.
And this game can be integrated into a programmable form into online gambling

Luck is a factor in everything, but compared to purely luck-based games, cock fighting is definitely not one of them. It can be compared to MMA fighting, you are right, but the big difference is that MMA fighters voluntarily take part in the event, while roosters are basically forced to participate.

Cock fighting is not a luck based game, rather I will call it a game that cruel people love to play and bet on it. 

If you ask me, I will never be able to even watch this bloody game. How do people get amusement seeing these cock fight games? Also, can people sleep if they have won money on gambling on the blood of cocks.

I agree. It is quite a unnecessarily cruel game and I would not think that any regular western person would wish to play such a game. Our morals are quite different, which is why I believe that cock-fighting games are more popular out of cultural reasons than just some people being cruel for the sake of enjoyment. Although people can be very cruel indeed, so there may be people who enjoy watching animals suffer .

But we are talking about the virtual version of this game in this thread. So cruelty free, 100%. Unless the game develops consciousness. 

So the point here is that we should respect other countries culture which we know that it could really differ into each other which people could have different impression when it comes to cockfighting.
There are indeed places which doesnt really able to bare up or handle out that animal cruelty which seeing these things would really be out of the boundary or limits which they cant really afford to see it out.
For other parts or side of the world then it do really turns out that they are really just that normal on where these animals been fighting insider an arena.
So better bare with it and dont make yourself get stressed since each corners of the world does have different culture.

[Sithara007]

So the point here is that we should respect other countries culture which we know that it could really differ into each other which people could have different impression when it comes to cockfighting.
There are indeed places which doesnt really able to bare up or handle out that animal cruelty which seeing these things would really be out of the boundary or limits which they cant really afford to see it out.
For other parts or side of the world then it do really turns out that they are really just that normal on where these animals been fighting insider an arena.
So better bare with it and dont make yourself get stressed since each corners of the world does have different culture.

The so called animal rights activists are always selective in their criticism. They always pick up weak targets. Some of the tribal and rural communities have been practicing customs such as cock fighting and bull fighting for thousands of years. It has become a part of their culture. Rather than targeting these practices, the activists should rather target real incidents of animal cruelty. And trust me, a greater degree of cruelty occurs in large-scale agrobusiness facilities that are being run by the multi-billion corporate giants.

[Silberman]

It involves a huge amount of amount that's why there must be someone with authority or even syndicates running cockpit operations. It could also be one of the reasons why police and the authorities take time to solve the issue because huge names are operating it and involved in the case. There's also news that family members of the missing agents are getting an offer (a huge amount of money) from the cockpit operator to keep their mouths shut or stop making fuss.

The problem is that several police and authorities are standing behind the organization. Hence, it is difficult for the authorities to investigate because every time they want to investigate, their steps will be deadlocked because their operations have been leaked. And it is very difficult to find out who leaked the operation because the organization is very good at hiding its agents to get valuable information from the authorities. The community thinks that the officials are not working optimally because we don't know what happened.

Correct, the moment anyone tries to begin arresting people or confiscating the animals which are supposed to participate in those fights, a corrupt official will know this and tell the farmers the police is coming and by the time they get to the farms there will be no evidence there, people to arrest or animals they can save, and until this changes then it does not matter if cock fighting is illegal as the people that are behind it will keep organizing those fights.

[Kasabus]

It involves a huge amount of amount that's why there must be someone with authority or even syndicates running cockpit operations. It could also be one of the reasons why police and the authorities take time to solve the issue because huge names are operating it and involved in the case. There's also news that family members of the missing agents are getting an offer (a huge amount of money) from the cockpit operator to keep their mouths shut or stop making fuss.

The problem is that several police and authorities are standing behind the organization. Hence, it is difficult for the authorities to investigate because every time they want to investigate, their steps will be deadlocked because their operations have been leaked. And it is very difficult to find out who leaked the operation because the organization is very good at hiding its agents to get valuable information from the authorities. The community thinks that the officials are not working optimally because we don't know what happened.

Correct, the moment anyone tries to begin arresting people or confiscating the animals which are supposed to participate in those fights, a corrupt official will know this and tell the farmers the police is coming and by the time they get to the farms there will be no evidence there, people to arrest or animals they can save, and until this changes then it does not matter if cock fighting is illegal as the people that are behind it will keep organizing those fights.

The other fact is the authorities are under the organization's payroll that is the first and foremost reason why the gambling lords are always one step ahead. In many cases, there are a lot of illegal cockfights or gambling that are seized by the authorities, but these gambling lords are just erasing their competitors while the authorities are getting fresh image from the public because of the seized operations they've accomplished. The public are just blinded from what is really happening behind the scenes, what they're getting are just the small fishes who are sacrificed for the protection of the big fishes. Quite unfair, isn't it? But that's the world we're living.

[ethereumhunter]

It involves a huge amount of amount that's why there must be someone with authority or even syndicates running cockpit operations. It could also be one of the reasons why police and the authorities take time to solve the issue because huge names are operating it and involved in the case. There's also news that family members of the missing agents are getting an offer (a huge amount of money) from the cockpit operator to keep their mouths shut or stop making fuss.

The problem is that several police and authorities are standing behind the organization. Hence, it is difficult for the authorities to investigate because every time they want to investigate, their steps will be deadlocked because their operations have been leaked. And it is very difficult to find out who leaked the operation because the organization is very good at hiding its agents to get valuable information from the authorities. The community thinks that the officials are not working optimally because we don't know what happened.

Correct, the moment anyone tries to begin arresting people or confiscating the animals which are supposed to participate in those fights, a corrupt official will know this and tell the farmers the police is coming and by the time they get to the farms there will be no evidence there, people to arrest or animals they can save, and until this changes then it does not matter if cock fighting is illegal as the people that are behind it will keep organizing those fights.

The other fact is the authorities are under the organization's payroll that is the first and foremost reason why the gambling lords are always one step ahead. In many cases, there are a lot of illegal cockfights or gambling that are seized by the authorities, but these gambling lords are just erasing their competitors while the authorities are getting fresh image from the public because of the seized operations they've accomplished. The public are just blinded from what is really happening behind the scenes, what they're getting are just the small fishes who are sacrificed for the protection of the big fishes. Quite unfair, isn't it? But that's the world we're living.

In addition, the authorities involved with illegal gambling benefit by receiving a payment of a lot of money because they are considered to have helped the operation. This is why there is still a lot of illegal gambling, even traditional gambling, often found in many countries, growing without being known by the authorities who want to eradicate it. And if there is a successful operation, it is not a big operation because for the large operation, the information has leaked and the gambling ruler had escaped before the operation began. While the public already knows if there are authorities behind the gambling rulers, unfortunately, they cannot do much because the public does not have the power to pressure the authorities.

[lienfaye]

Cock fighting is not a luck based game, rather I will call it a game that cruel people love to play and bet on it. 

I think it's still a luck based game because you can't say who's going to win the fight since the involved is animals. It's not the typical betting game wherein we can somehow predict the winner based on their previous games.

If you ask me, I will never be able to even watch this bloody game. How do people get amusement seeing these cock fight games? Also, can people sleep if they have won money on gambling on the blood of cocks.

Same here. But there are many people who think this game is enjoyable and satisfying to watch, especially if you're the owner of the cock. It's cruel but as long as it is not prohibited, then this kind of gambling will continue to exist.

[Betwrong]

I thought all forms of gambling are prohibited in the Muslim religion? In any way... I have watched some Cock fighting in real life, not in a gambling setting.. but on a farm and it is not something that I would bet on. 

The Cock fighting sport remains legal in Puerto Rico and in such countries as the Philippines and the Dominican Republic, where cockfighting clubs operate around the country.

The Animal Anti-Cruelty organizations will object to any kind of gambling that are done, where animals are harmed or killed for Sports betting. There are more than enough Sport to gamble on, without having to harm animals ....so let's keep it that way. 

And I'm sure it's going to be that way in those places we are making our bets, and not only because the Animal Anti-Cruelty organizations involvement. I believe, many gamblers might leave the site that started allowing bets where animals can be harmed or even killed. So, morals aside,  it wouldn't be the best decision, business-wise, to start accepting such bets.

[Peanutswar]

Cock fighting is not a luck based game, rather I will call it a game that cruel people love to play and bet on it. 

I think it's still a luck based game because you can't say who's going to win the fight since the involved is animals. It's not the typical betting game wherein we can somehow predict the winner based on their previous games.

If you ask me, I will never be able to even watch this bloody game. How do people get amusement seeing these cock fight games? Also, can people sleep if they have won money on gambling on the blood of cocks.

Same here. But there are many people who think this game is enjoyable and satisfying to watch, especially if you're the owner of the cock. It's cruel but as long as it is not prohibited, then this kind of gambling will continue to exist.

Not all the time its a luck base because if you already played a lot of cock fighting by just seeing the body of the rooster you can say that it has a good body because all of the cock fighter  are gamblers at the same time so if you just bet a cock fight without having a knowledge how to identity a good rooster fighter sure you will lose the game,

Next is if you are the breeder and take care with the rooster is you can give all your best to give a good quality of fighter and of course the same with the boxing after all the training it comes and it wins gives a different celebration to you.

[348Judah]

Cock fighting is not a luck based game, rather I will call it a game that cruel people love to play and bet on it.  

I think it's still a luck based game because you can't say who's going to win the fight since the involved is animals. It's not the typical betting game wherein we can somehow predict the winner based on their previous games.

If you ask me, I will never be able to even watch this bloody game. How do people get amusement seeing these cock fight games? Also, can people sleep if they have won money on gambling on the blood of cocks.

Same here. But there are many people who think this game is enjoyable and satisfying to watch, especially if you're the owner of the cock. It's cruel but as long as it is not prohibited, then this kind of gambling will continue to exist.

Left to me alone i see nothing wrong with this kind of game ones it comes to entertainments aside the gambling that comes in with it but the regulatory body under livestocks will not tolerate this because it's serves as an abuse to the right needed to be given to the cocks involved in a fight against each other to the point of death, because many of us don't know the extent to which cock fight can went as brutal as possible which sounds a violation of their right for a living.

[Casdinyard]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Cockfighting's a staple game in my country as well. It came to a point where all fathers here will get stereotypically berated as cockfight breeders or bettors at one point. I can see other animals being made to fight for profit as well because it's been ingrained in our entertainment even during ancient roman times. What I just can't take is illegal dog fights that sad to say are still active at this point in some parts of the world.

If you ask me, I will never be able to even watch this bloody game. How do people get amusement seeing these cock fight games? Also, can people sleep if they have won money on gambling on the blood of cocks.

Same here. But there are many people who think this game is enjoyable and satisfying to watch, especially if you're the owner of the cock. It's cruel but as long as it is not prohibited, then this kind of gambling will continue to exist.

Well some people just get off from seeing brutality sometimes. That's why boxing is a sport and wrestling is a craft. As per animals I draw the line with dogs. Cockfights are a little gross but it will grow on you the more you visit dens and betting houses. I guess that's what happened to me.

[minime0105]

Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm.

If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight.
And this game can be integrated into a programmable form into online gambling

Luck is a factor in everything, but compared to purely luck-based games, cock fighting is definitely not one of them. It can be compared to MMA fighting, you are right, but the big difference is that MMA fighters voluntarily take part in the event, while roosters are basically forced to participate.

In gambling you can not stand at any point thay you will win gamblling, from understanding i have to note that gamblling is something we know that doesn't work out with a professional predictor, so what can make gamblling to be successful or to become or bring wining is the grace which make some people predicte same game and another person yry to interchange it's prediction and with the little changing of the features gambling the person might be lucky to win.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Come on you can't be serious? How do you enjoy seeing animals fighting and getting killed and you enjoy it ! If you are a real muslim you know that any kind of gambling or hurting animals is forbiden to do without any excuse

Hahaha.... Don't make me Laugh out my ass!! How do you assume peeps in here? Like you really think that everyone is a Muslim? Just as you are? .... having that as a bad take can't justify another person or condemn them either. That's not a legalized stuff; it's just something you get during the southern-fun peripherals and it's practiced in those remote areas, ( not in Urban cities).
Don't always have these keen interest of passin' your religious law to anyone, everyone.. except, maybe someone that believes in that. I'm a Christian though but (that isn't to create any diversity though),... Hold firm to what yunno and belief in it.
Meanwhile, I enjoyed the last trip for a Scorpio fight ...lol

Sandra 🧑

[GxSTxV]

Come on you can't be serious? How do you enjoy seeing animals fighting and getting killed and you enjoy it ! If you are a real muslim you know that any kind of gambling or hurting animals is forbiden to do without any excuse

Hahaha.... Don't make me Laugh out my ass!! How do you assume peeps in here? Like you really think that everyone is a Muslim? Just as you are? .... having that as a bad take can't justify another person or condemn them either. That's not a legalized stuff; it's just something you get during the southern-fun peripherals and it's practiced in those remote areas, ( not in Urban cities).
Don't always have these keen interest of passin' your religious law to anyone, everyone.. except, maybe someone that believes in that. I'm a Christian though but (that isn't to create any diversity though),... Hold firm to what yunno and belief in it.
Meanwhile, I enjoyed the last trip for a Scorpio fight ...lol

Sandra 🧑

Well that's your opinion about enjoying the seen of making animals fighting eachothers till death. But i don't agree with it simply because it's disgusting me.
When i talked about islam i only mentioned the islamic rules about these activities that they are forbiden since the OP said the cock fight was set in islamic country, i never said that I am a muslim or the opposite because it's pointless and we are in gambling section. You more than me know that in bitcointalk nobody gives a fuck about religions it's more about being honest and respectful.
You are the only racist here by showing your hate to islam and muslims obviously. Nobody need to know if you are a Christian or whatever.

[Wakate]

I have seen this kind of betting many times when I'm traveling and mostly when watching TV. These days, people make Bets through various means that suit them. They uses these animals to fight and the ones that is very strong will string neck do survive the hurt that is always cause when the two heads of the ram collide together. This used to cause severe pains to these animals and the ones that are not string used to died because of internal bleeding and injuries caused from the  collision. I don't enjoy think of game because of how painful it could be to the animals.

[Lanatsa]

Come on you can't be serious? How do you enjoy seeing animals fighting and getting killed and you enjoy it ! If you are a real muslim you know that any kind of gambling or hurting animals is forbiden to do without any excuse

Hahaha.... Don't make me Laugh out my ass!! How do you assume peeps in here? Like you really think that everyone is a Muslim? Just as you are? .... having that as a bad take can't justify another person or condemn them either. That's not a legalized stuff; it's just something you get during the southern-fun peripherals and it's practiced in those remote areas, ( not in Urban cities).
Don't always have these keen interest of passin' your religious law to anyone, everyone.. except, maybe someone that believes in that. I'm a Christian though but (that isn't to create any diversity though),... Hold firm to what yunno and belief in it.
Meanwhile, I enjoyed the last trip for a Scorpio fight ...lol

Sandra 🧑

There are really those people who do love to generalize things without even thinking on how many kinds or types or numbers of religions on having this entire world which means that beliefs could really be different

to each other.Some would really be that looking these animal fighting kind of gambling is really that something cruel but not for those people who are living on a country or place which these things turns out to be

traditional or something that really very common.Lets just respect on other countries culture and not really make out discrimination
just because it is really against on what you do believe on.

[ChiBitCTy]

This thread is a joke and should be shut down.  Anyone who thinks that it's okay to use animals for our amusement, especially when they are being injured and killed, are straight up sick in the head.  I could give a fuck less about your "religion" or your traditions or whatever.  It's time for you to wake the hell up and realize that this is NOT okay.  Slavery used to be considered okay, and there isn't a person on this forum who'd not agree that it is. As humans we evolve and learn right from wrong as time goes on, and this is something that sadly must of the eastern world hasn't evolved around enough yet. 

Seriously what goes on in the minds of you people thinking this is acceptable.  Sicken me.

[pixie85]

This thread is a joke and should be shut down.  Anyone who thinks that it's okay to use animals for our amusement, especially when they are being injured and killed, are straight up sick in the head.  I could give a fuck less about your "religion" or your traditions or whatever.  It's time for you to wake the hell up and realize that this is NOT okay.  Slavery used to be considered okay, and there isn't a person on this forum who'd not agree that it is. As humans we evolve and learn right from wrong as time goes on, and this is something that sadly must of the eastern world hasn't evolved around enough yet. 

Seriously what goes on in the minds of you people thinking this is acceptable.  Sicken me.

It's a spam thread to be honest and it should be shut down not because abusing animals is a bad thing but because the thread doesn't discuss anything nor does it lead anywhere. We won't come to any conclusion here.

People from poor countries who see animals being slaughtered in the street won't believe that they have feelings and should be spared pain.
People who live in developed countries where animal rights are a thing will get angry at this and attack them.

The only way to end this is to accept that there are savage countries and savage people out there and it will take centuries for them to learn what we know now.

[bboyz]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

That kind of thing isn't fun because in the end the animals hurt each other. If you are a sincere Christian [1], I advise you to stay away from such things. Gambling has nothing to do with Islam. The behavior of the Muslims in your region does not represent Islam either.

Also, this verse forms the basis of compassion for animals in Islam. Surah An'am, 38:

There is not an animal (that lives) on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, but (forms part of) communities like you. Nothing have we omitted from the Book, and they (all) shall be gathered to their Lord in the end.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5409837.msg60850251#msg60850251
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5415707.msg61049724#msg61049724



For whatever reason, those who torture animals must have psychological problems. I think we should get them treated and keep them out of society unless they show signs of improvement. We cannot tolerate such bad behavior because of the option to gamble. I am ashamed that a topic like this exists.

[bboyz]

The only way to end this is to accept that there are savage countries and savage people out there and it will take centuries for them to learn what we know now.

It's just as bad a post as this thread. You get nothing by marginalizing others. You make the world a more uninhabitable place. You say that others live in the jungle by living in your garden, the source of which is the comfort zone you created with your dubious wealth. I think this discussion is distracting from the singularity that Bitcoin and Satoshi invite people to. You may not respect me, I respect that, but at least let's respect the identity of the forum, please.

We are not jungle creatures and you are not superior creatures. We have a lot to learn from each other.

[BobK71]

For whatever reason, those who torture animals must have psychological problems. I think we should get them treated and keep them out of society unless they show signs of improvement. We cannot tolerate such bad behavior because of the option to gamble. I am ashamed that a topic like this exists.

I have heard about making fun with animals in many places, but I did not know about organizing gambling by creating artificially pampering situations with them. But the world is diverse. Constantly having to get acquainted with something new. Gambling is a part of entertainment. Any animal harmed as a result of taking recreation is unacceptable. Moreover, various types of tools can be used for gambling. But there is no meaning in gambling with the threat of life.

[AicecreaME]

For whatever reason, those who torture animals must have psychological problems. I think we should get them treated and keep them out of society unless they show signs of improvement. We cannot tolerate such bad behavior because of the option to gamble. I am ashamed that a topic like this exists.

I have heard about making fun with animals in many places, but I did not know about organizing gambling by creating artificially pampering situations with them. But the world is diverse. Constantly having to get acquainted with something new. Gambling is a part of entertainment. Any animal harmed as a result of taking recreation is unacceptable. Moreover, various types of tools can be used for gambling. But there is no meaning in gambling with the threat of life.

I very much agree with this.

Way back, I was really oblivious about the abuse on animals because I just don't mind about something that doesn't concern me. But on my formative years, I learned how to be empathetic and being one doesn't necessarily mean you are weak or you are emotional. In gambling, it shouldn't really be about fighting off animals amongst themselves who can't even give consent.

Cock fighting often results to death. Not only it damages the game cock for some time, but it is really fatal. And I don't think it's ever justifiable to have an animal killed by thinking of surviving by fighting off their own kind just for the sake of bets.

[abel1337]

For whatever reason, those who torture animals must have psychological problems. I think we should get them treated and keep them out of society unless they show signs of improvement. We cannot tolerate such bad behavior because of the option to gamble. I am ashamed that a topic like this exists.

I have heard about making fun with animals in many places, but I did not know about organizing gambling by creating artificially pampering situations with them. But the world is diverse. Constantly having to get acquainted with something new. Gambling is a part of entertainment. Any animal harmed as a result of taking recreation is unacceptable. Moreover, various types of tools can be used for gambling. But there is no meaning in gambling with the threat of life.

I very much agree with this.

Way back, I was really oblivious about the abuse on animals because I just don't mind about something that doesn't concern me. But on my formative years, I learned how to be empathetic and being one doesn't necessarily mean you are weak or you are emotional. In gambling, it shouldn't really be about fighting off animals amongst themselves who can't even give consent.

Cock fighting often results to death. Not only it damages the game cock for some time, but it is really fatal. And I don't think it's ever justifiable to have an animal killed by thinking of surviving by fighting off their own kind just for the sake of bets.

Human are the cleverest species out of all and humans took a chance on using as an another type of gambling game. Not just cockfighting but there are other games that include animals like horse racing. Unfortunately we can't stop this kind of gambling games because even governments allow these. We are on the top of the food chain and yeah cocks are treated as live stocks that is raised to produce profit or human gains. This is the sad truth just like other animals out there. The best thing we can do as a gambler is to avoid participating on this cock fighting events since we are part of the demand which makes animal related gambling activities active.

[Shamm]

For whatever reason, those who torture animals must have psychological problems. I think we should get them treated and keep them out of society unless they show signs of improvement. We cannot tolerate such bad behavior because of the option to gamble. I am ashamed that a topic like this exists.

I have heard about making fun with animals in many places, but I did not know about organizing gambling by creating artificially pampering situations with them. But the world is diverse. Constantly having to get acquainted with something new. Gambling is a part of entertainment. Any animal harmed as a result of taking recreation is unacceptable. Moreover, various types of tools can be used for gambling. But there is no meaning in gambling with the threat of life.

I very much agree with this.

Way back, I was really oblivious about the abuse on animals because I just don't mind about something that doesn't concern me. But on my formative years, I learned how to be empathetic and being one doesn't necessarily mean you are weak or you are emotional. In gambling, it shouldn't really be about fighting off animals amongst themselves who can't even give consent.

Cock fighting often results to death. Not only it damages the game cock for some time, but it is really fatal. And I don't think it's ever justifiable to have an animal killed by thinking of surviving by fighting off their own kind just for the sake of bets.

Human are the cleverest species out of all and humans took a chance on using as an another type of gambling game. Not just cockfighting but there are other games that include animals like horse racing. Unfortunately we can't stop this kind of gambling games because even governments allow these. We are on the top of the food chain and yeah cocks are treated as live stocks that is raised to produce profit or human gains. This is the sad truth just like other animals out there. The best thing we can do as a gambler is to avoid participating on this cock fighting events since we are part of the demand which makes animal related gambling activities active.

Some countries in Asia playing animals games examples of it are Horses, spiders, and a very popular is cockfighting. And one of those country is My country which is even the government cannot stop this kind of habit even though the government prohibited this kind of gambling but still people won't stop especially in cockfighting. Even me before I handle 65 cock for fight but then when I realized that I am not doing good for the animals then I'll stop and focus on other games.

[AakZaki]

Some countries in Asia playing animals games examples of it are Horses, spiders, and a very popular is cockfighting. And one of those country is My country which is even the government cannot stop this kind of habit even though the government prohibited this kind of gambling but still people won't stop especially in cockfighting. Even me before I handle 65 cock for fight but then when I realized that I am not doing good for the animals then I'll stop and focus on other games.

It is very difficult for those who do not have the will to change. I think many rely on cockfighting to make money. Even though it is prohibited by the government and religion. I think it's quite difficult to avoid this culture. It will always appear plus if law enforcement there also protects this gambling. This seems to be happening in my country. So gamblers comfortably continue to act.

[Ziskinberg]

For whatever reason, those who torture animals must have psychological problems. I think we should get them treated and keep them out of society unless they show signs of improvement. We cannot tolerate such bad behavior because of the option to gamble. I am ashamed that a topic like this exists.

I have heard about making fun with animals in many places, but I did not know about organizing gambling by creating artificially pampering situations with them. But the world is diverse. Constantly having to get acquainted with something new. Gambling is a part of entertainment. Any animal harmed as a result of taking recreation is unacceptable. Moreover, various types of tools can be used for gambling. But there is no meaning in gambling with the threat of life.

I very much agree with this.

Way back, I was really oblivious about the abuse on animals because I just don't mind about something that doesn't concern me. But on my formative years, I learned how to be empathetic and being one doesn't necessarily mean you are weak or you are emotional. In gambling, it shouldn't really be about fighting off animals amongst themselves who can't even give consent.

Cock fighting often results to death. Not only it damages the game cock for some time, but it is really fatal. And I don't think it's ever justifiable to have an animal killed by thinking of surviving by fighting off their own kind just for the sake of bets.

Human are the cleverest species out of all and humans took a chance on using as an another type of gambling game. Not just cockfighting but there are other games that include animals like horse racing. Unfortunately we can't stop this kind of gambling games because even governments allow these. We are on the top of the food chain and yeah cocks are treated as live stocks that is raised to produce profit or human gains. This is the sad truth just like other animals out there. The best thing we can do as a gambler is to avoid participating on this cock fighting events since we are part of the demand which makes animal related gambling activities active.

Some countries in Asia playing animals games examples of it are Horses, spiders, and a very popular is cockfighting. And one of those country is My country which is even the government cannot stop this kind of habit even though the government prohibited this kind of gambling but still people won't stop especially in cockfighting. Even me before I handle 65 cock for fight but then when I realized that I am not doing good for the animals then I'll stop and focus on other games.

Yes, I echo the same, it is indeed very popular that it can't be stopped easily because somehow it is already part of the history and it's viewed as one of the culture that Asian countries have. But I have a very slight correction mate, the government has banned and prohibits the gambling of the E-Sabong (the digital version of cockfight game) and not the traditional cockfight game that is held on cockpits on designated dates. In-house cockfights are still entirely legal.

[Pamadar]

Some countries in Asia playing animals games examples of it are Horses, spiders, and a very popular is cockfighting. And one of those country is My country which is even the government cannot stop this kind of habit even though the government prohibited this kind of gambling but still people won't stop especially in cockfighting. Even me before I handle 65 cock for fight but then when I realized that I am not doing good for the animals then I'll stop and focus on other games.

It is very difficult for those who do not have the will to change. I think many rely on cockfighting to make money. Even though it is prohibited by the government and religion. I think it's quite difficult to avoid this culture. It will always appear plus if law enforcement there also protects this gambling. This seems to be happening in my country. So gamblers comfortably continue to act.

Seeing the same, in the place where i live, government officials are also participating, especially those police who love this gambling. Gamblers are free to play since they are heavily protected.

I don't see changes since there are places that it's not prohibited and there are occasions that
this gambling is always presence.

You will see a lot of people who either have their own rosters or are just betting and looking for
some luck to win a decent amount of money.

[goinmerry]

Seeing the same, in the place where i live, government officials are also participating, especially those police who love this gambling. Gamblers are free to play since they are heavily protected.

Police professionals here in our country are not allowed to participate in any form of gambling, especially in gambling like cockfighting.

That was prohibited because it might lead to self-interest and abuse. It will lead to kicking on the service permanently.

You will never see police here playing that gambling game that's why as much as possible they are hiding their identities just to play this gambling game.

[electronicash]

Seeing the same, in the place where i live, government officials are also participating, especially those police who love this gambling. Gamblers are free to play since they are heavily protected.

Police professionals here in our country are not allowed to participate in any form of gambling, especially in gambling like cockfighting.

That was prohibited because it might lead to self-interest and abuse. It will lead to kicking on the service permanently.

You will never see police here playing that gambling game that's why as much as possible they are hiding their identities just to play this gambling game.

i think it only apply if the police officers are wearing uniform and are on duty but if not, they can participate in betting on cockfight arena. most of the time events like these happens far away from the police stations. we can only notice there is a cockfighting going on when tricycles cram in a remote cite.

[Hispo]

Seeing the same, in the place where i live, government officials are also participating, especially those police who love this gambling. Gamblers are free to play since they are heavily protected.

Police professionals here in our country are not allowed to participate in any form of gambling, especially in gambling like cockfighting.

That was prohibited because it might lead to self-interest and abuse. It will lead to kicking on the service permanently.

You will never see police here playing that gambling game that's why as much as possible they are hiding their identities just to play this gambling game.

i assume it is like here in my country and they are allowed to play if they are not in their uniform and as civilians?
As far as I know there is no law against public officials partaking in gambling or betting, but makes much sense those laws exist somewhere, to avoid corruption.

However, there are towns and small settlements here where cockfighting and sport betting are one of the few ways for the population to entertain themselves, it would be hard to outlaw betting for officers and public workers in that context.

[ethereumhunter]

Seeing the same, in the place where i live, government officials are also participating, especially those police who love this gambling. Gamblers are free to play since they are heavily protected.

Police professionals here in our country are not allowed to participate in any form of gambling, especially in gambling like cockfighting.

That was prohibited because it might lead to self-interest and abuse. It will lead to kicking on the service permanently.

You will never see police here playing that gambling game that's why as much as possible they are hiding their identities just to play this gambling game.

i think it only apply if the police officers are wearing uniform and are on duty but if not, they can participate in betting on cockfight arena. most of the time events like these happens far away from the police stations. we can only notice there is a cockfighting going on when tricycles cram in a remote cite.

I think the officer playing gambling could order other people to place bets while he remained in place watching if there was news of an ambush so he could immediately tell his friends in the casino to stay away for a while. The officials were very careful if they wanted to place a bet and would wait for the right time to come to the casino because they knew their fellow officers supervised all forms of gambling. That's why it's not easy to find where cockfighting is because only certain people are invited there.

[BobK71]

Seeing the same, in the place where i live, government officials are also participating, especially those police who love this gambling. Gamblers are free to play since they are heavily protected.

Police professionals here in our country are not allowed to participate in any form of gambling, especially in gambling like cockfighting.

That was prohibited because it might lead to self-interest and abuse. It will lead to kicking on the service permanently.

You will never see police here playing that gambling game that's why as much as possible they are hiding their identities just to play this gambling game.

i think it only apply if the police officers are wearing uniform and are on duty but if not, they can participate in betting on cockfight arena. most of the time events like these happens far away from the police stations. we can only notice there is a cockfighting going on when tricycles cram in a remote cite.

I think the officer playing gambling could order other people to place bets while he remained in place watching if there was news of an ambush so he could immediately tell his friends in the casino to stay away for a while. The officials were very careful if they wanted to place a bet and would wait for the right time to come to the casino because they knew their fellow officers supervised all forms of gambling. That's why it's not easy to find where cockfighting is because only certain people are invited there.

These games are usually organized within a short period of time in a specific area. Also, games are not heavily promoted outside the specific area. It is not advertised in the media either. Hence identifying it will not be a very easy task. But if it is considered seriously then it is definitely possible to get the information of this program organizer. Because in today's era almost everywhere in the world there is use of internet and smart phone.

[wiss19]

I think the officer playing gambling could order other people to place bets while he remained in place watching if there was news of an ambush so he could immediately tell his friends in the casino to stay away for a while. The officials were very careful if they wanted to place a bet and would wait for the right time to come to the casino because they knew their fellow officers supervised all forms of gambling. That's why it's not easy to find where cockfighting is because only certain people are invited there.

This is the advantage of being a police because they know if there will be a raid that will happen and they can leave on that gambling place before their co-police came in the scene. It is still risky because what if someone reports them to their head? They can be fired out in an instant. That serves as a punishment because they are supposed to stop these kinds of activities, not to join them and encourage other people to do the same thing. This destroys their image as a police.

I really don't know the reason on why cock fighting is illegal while other gambling games are still illegal. I think this is because there's an animal that is involved or harmed here.

[blockman]

Seeing the same, in the place where i live, government officials are also participating, especially those police who love this gambling. Gamblers are free to play since they are heavily protected.

Police professionals here in our country are not allowed to participate in any form of gambling, especially in gambling like cockfighting.

That was prohibited because it might lead to self-interest and abuse. It will lead to kicking on the service permanently.

You will never see police here playing that gambling game that's why as much as possible they are hiding their identities just to play this gambling game.

Yeah, they're not allowed to participate and enter the gambling premises. Whether it's cockfighting or any type of gambling activity, it's part of the public official's oath that they shouldn't engage in any type of gambling activity or else, when they're reported, they'll take a sanction.
That's for sure but it can't be stopped if there are police officers that are still gambling no matter what the rules and oath they've taken, if they're a gambler, they'll always be a gambler.

[South Park]

Seeing the same, in the place where i live, government officials are also participating, especially those police who love this gambling. Gamblers are free to play since they are heavily protected.

Police professionals here in our country are not allowed to participate in any form of gambling, especially in gambling like cockfighting.

That was prohibited because it might lead to self-interest and abuse. It will lead to kicking on the service permanently.

You will never see police here playing that gambling game that's why as much as possible they are hiding their identities just to play this gambling game.

Yeah, they're not allowed to participate and enter the gambling premises. Whether it's cockfighting or any type of gambling activity, it's part of the public official's oath that they shouldn't engage in any type of gambling activity or else, when they're reported, they'll take a sanction.
That's for sure but it can't be stopped if there are police officers that are still gambling no matter what the rules and oath they've taken, if they're a gambler, they'll always be a gambler.

Those kind of rules are incredibly difficult to enforce as it is not as if those which due to their profession cannot gamble will actually tell everyone they are doing it, another example of this are athletes which are not supposed to gamble on matches in which they participate, with some leagues asking to not even make any kind of bet on the league or the sport at all, and yet we get to know many examples of this over the years, and those are only the ones which are caught as most likely there are many athletes which break the rules and we never find out about it.

[carlfebz2]

Seeing the same, in the place where i live, government officials are also participating, especially those police who love this gambling. Gamblers are free to play since they are heavily protected.

Police professionals here in our country are not allowed to participate in any form of gambling, especially in gambling like cockfighting.

That was prohibited because it might lead to self-interest and abuse. It will lead to kicking on the service permanently.

You will never see police here playing that gambling game that's why as much as possible they are hiding their identities just to play this gambling game.

Yeah, they're not allowed to participate and enter the gambling premises. Whether it's cockfighting or any type of gambling activity, it's part of the public official's oath that they shouldn't engage in any type of gambling activity or else, when they're reported, they'll take a sanction.
That's for sure but it can't be stopped if there are police officers that are still gambling no matter what the rules and oath they've taken, if they're a gambler, they'll always be a gambler.

Those kind of rules are incredibly difficult to enforce as it is not as if those which due to their profession cannot gamble will actually tell everyone they are doing it, another example of this are athletes which are not supposed to gamble on matches in which they participate, with some leagues asking to not even make any kind of bet on the league or the sport at all, and yet we get to know many examples of this over the years, and those are only the ones which are caught as most likely there are many athletes which break the rules and we never find out about it.

Organization do set out some rules which is that considerable and pretty obvious but its not a surprise that there would be those individuals or groups that would really be trying out to oppose such rule or laws

just for them to make out bets for themselves and would really be able to get out on authorities eyes or on the organization.Lets back on the topic about cock fighting then its not really that something surprising

yet there are really something like this on some countries which had been part of their culture.Some might be saying that this is animal cruelty but this is where
gamblers do really spend their time and money most specially on rural areas.

[romero121]

Seeing the same, in the place where i live, government officials are also participating, especially those police who love this gambling. Gamblers are free to play since they are heavily protected.

Police professionals here in our country are not allowed to participate in any form of gambling, especially in gambling like cockfighting.

That was prohibited because it might lead to self-interest and abuse. It will lead to kicking on the service permanently.

You will never see police here playing that gambling game that's why as much as possible they are hiding their identities just to play this gambling game.

Yeah, they're not allowed to participate and enter the gambling premises. Whether it's cockfighting or any type of gambling activity, it's part of the public official's oath that they shouldn't engage in any type of gambling activity or else, when they're reported, they'll take a sanction.
That's for sure but it can't be stopped if there are police officers that are still gambling no matter what the rules and oath they've taken, if they're a gambler, they'll always be a gambler.

Those kind of rules are incredibly difficult to enforce as it is not as if those which due to their profession cannot gamble will actually tell everyone they are doing it, another example of this are athletes which are not supposed to gamble on matches in which they participate, with some leagues asking to not even make any kind of bet on the league or the sport at all, and yet we get to know many examples of this over the years, and those are only the ones which are caught as most likely there are many athletes which break the rules and we never find out about it.

Organization do set out some rules which is that considerable and pretty obvious but its not a surprise that there would be those individuals or groups that would really be trying out to oppose such rule or laws

just for them to make out bets for themselves and would really be able to get out on authorities eyes or on the organization.Lets back on the topic about cock fighting then its not really that something surprising

yet there are really something like this on some countries which had been part of their culture.Some might be saying that this is animal cruelty but this is where
gamblers do really spend their time and money most specially on rural areas.

Not only with gambling, each and everything have got rules to be followed. People find happiness breaking the rules. As said, organizations frame the rules and it is the people to break it. Here we're talking about the policeman and we need to understand they're human beings.

These kind of gambling activities happen largely on the rural regions. It is connected to culture, tradition and slowly people have begun to forget it when moving to urban region for life. Every part of the world have got something to gamble with animals and there are organisations against it. Amidst the opposition people continue it, and the organization can't oppose beyond limit as it is connected with them in some means.

[ethereumhunter]

Seeing the same, in the place where i live, government officials are also participating, especially those police who love this gambling. Gamblers are free to play since they are heavily protected.

Police professionals here in our country are not allowed to participate in any form of gambling, especially in gambling like cockfighting.

That was prohibited because it might lead to self-interest and abuse. It will lead to kicking on the service permanently.

You will never see police here playing that gambling game that's why as much as possible they are hiding their identities just to play this gambling game.

i think it only apply if the police officers are wearing uniform and are on duty but if not, they can participate in betting on cockfight arena. most of the time events like these happens far away from the police stations. we can only notice there is a cockfighting going on when tricycles cram in a remote cite.

I think the officer playing gambling could order other people to place bets while he remained in place watching if there was news of an ambush so he could immediately tell his friends in the casino to stay away for a while. The officials were very careful if they wanted to place a bet and would wait for the right time to come to the casino because they knew their fellow officers supervised all forms of gambling. That's why it's not easy to find where cockfighting is because only certain people are invited there.

These games are usually organized within a short period of time in a specific area. Also, games are not heavily promoted outside the specific area. It is not advertised in the media either. Hence identifying it will not be a very easy task. But if it is considered seriously then it is definitely possible to get the information of this program organizer. Because in today's era almost everywhere in the world there is use of internet and smart phone.

But it won't be easy to find where the venue for the event is being held unless they get an invitation from the organizers or are told by a friend who wants to place a bet there. They promote it only from person to person and it has proven to be the most effective promotion because they can reach many people at the cockfighting event. And even though there is now the internet that can help users find all kinds of information, finding an offline cockfighting place still takes work.

I think the officer playing gambling could order other people to place bets while he remained in place watching if there was news of an ambush so he could immediately tell his friends in the casino to stay away for a while. The officials were very careful if they wanted to place a bet and would wait for the right time to come to the casino because they knew their fellow officers supervised all forms of gambling. That's why it's not easy to find where cockfighting is because only certain people are invited there.

This is the advantage of being a police because they know if there will be a raid that will happen and they can leave on that gambling place before their co-police came in the scene. It is still risky because what if someone reports them to their head? They can be fired out in an instant. That serves as a punishment because they are supposed to stop these kinds of activities, not to join them and encourage other people to do the same thing. This destroys their image as a police.

I really don't know the reason on why cock fighting is illegal while other gambling games are still illegal. I think this is because there's an animal that is involved or harmed here.

Those who become police and commit corruption must have friends who are police officers who will protect each other so that it will be difficult for the real police to track them down. And there is also the possibility that the police chief is involved in a corruption case. It will help the police officers under his work to protect the illegal casino.

But if you want to destroy or arrest this corrupt police network, maybe there should be an investigation from the police chief down to the members below him so that it can help in a large-scale purge there.

It could be because only cockfights are used as bets and no other animals are used as bets, making it illegal.

[freedomgo]

I think the officer playing gambling could order other people to place bets while he remained in place watching if there was news of an ambush so he could immediately tell his friends in the casino to stay away for a while. The officials were very careful if they wanted to place a bet and would wait for the right time to come to the casino because they knew their fellow officers supervised all forms of gambling. That's why it's not easy to find where cockfighting is because only certain people are invited there.

This is the advantage of being a police because they know if there will be a raid that will happen and they can leave on that gambling place before their co-police came in the scene. It is still risky because what if someone reports them to their head? They can be fired out in an instant. That serves as a punishment because they are supposed to stop these kinds of activities, not to join them and encourage other people to do the same thing. This destroys their image as a police.

I really don't know the reason on why cock fighting is illegal while other gambling games are still illegal. I think this is because there's an animal that is involved or harmed here.

Well, surely they knew the risks and consequence if they will get caught gambling illegally with other gamblers but even though they knew that, they still chose indulge on such things because of the entertainment it an bring. One reason for that is at the end of the day, they are still a private citizen if they aren't wearing their uniforms who does gambling on one end.

To correct you on that last phrase. Cockfight is not entirely illegal, there are cockpits designated for people who wanted to gamble. What's illegal is all sorts of gambling that are not sanctioned by the government or who haven't got any permits to hold any gambling event and that includes cockfighting.

[dunfida]

I think the officer playing gambling could order other people to place bets while he remained in place watching if there was news of an ambush so he could immediately tell his friends in the casino to stay away for a while. The officials were very careful if they wanted to place a bet and would wait for the right time to come to the casino because they knew their fellow officers supervised all forms of gambling. That's why it's not easy to find where cockfighting is because only certain people are invited there.

This is the advantage of being a police because they know if there will be a raid that will happen and they can leave on that gambling place before their co-police came in the scene. It is still risky because what if someone reports them to their head? They can be fired out in an instant. That serves as a punishment because they are supposed to stop these kinds of activities, not to join them and encourage other people to do the same thing. This destroys their image as a police.

I really don't know the reason on why cock fighting is illegal while other gambling games are still illegal. I think this is because there's an animal that is involved or harmed here.

Well, surely they knew the risks and consequence if they will get caught gambling illegally with other gamblers but even though they knew that, they still chose indulge on such things because of the entertainment it an bring. One reason for that is at the end of the day, they are still a private citizen if they aren't wearing their uniforms who does gambling on one end.

To correct you on that last phrase. Cockfight is not entirely illegal, there are cockpits designated for people who wanted to gamble. What's illegal is all sorts of gambling that are not sanctioned by the government or who haven't got any permits to hold any gambling event and that includes cockfighting.

When you are off-duty then you do really have the rights as an ordinary citizen which means you could really make out involvement on things just like a normal citizen would tend to engage out but they aren't that
dumb on engaging on something that is illegal, once they're caught then say goodbye into their jobs.Its true that there would really be that legal places on where these cockfighting would be held upon.
But just as expected that there would be places that wont really be on scope of government and this is where illegal arenas been mold and gamblers or bettors will really be get arrested
once there would really be a raid.

[blockman]

Yeah, they're not allowed to participate and enter the gambling premises. Whether it's cockfighting or any type of gambling activity, it's part of the public official's oath that they shouldn't engage in any type of gambling activity or else, when they're reported, they'll take a sanction.
That's for sure but it can't be stopped if there are police officers that are still gambling no matter what the rules and oath they've taken, if they're a gambler, they'll always be a gambler.

Those kind of rules are incredibly difficult to enforce as it is not as if those which due to their profession cannot gamble will actually tell everyone they are doing it, another example of this are athletes which are not supposed to gamble on matches in which they participate, with some leagues asking to not even make any kind of bet on the league or the sport at all, and yet we get to know many examples of this over the years, and those are only the ones which are caught as most likely there are many athletes which break the rules and we never find out about it.

It's part of their oath and I think that they have to accept it but we're also sure that many of them break that rule and oath that they've promised.
I also a lot of those officials that have been involved in gambling and mainly in cockfighting because it's one of the most popular type of gambling in here.
In some gambling houses, I've seen that there's a poster that they're not allowing anyone that works in the government to enter and to gamble.

[serjent05]

I think the officer playing gambling could order other people to place bets while he remained in place watching if there was news of an ambush so he could immediately tell his friends in the casino to stay away for a while. The officials were very careful if they wanted to place a bet and would wait for the right time to come to the casino because they knew their fellow officers supervised all forms of gambling. That's why it's not easy to find where cockfighting is because only certain people are invited there.

This is the advantage of being a police because they know if there will be a raid that will happen and they can leave on that gambling place before their co-police came in the scene. It is still risky because what if someone reports them to their head? They can be fired out in an instant. That serves as a punishment because they are supposed to stop these kinds of activities, not to join them and encourage other people to do the same thing. This destroys their image as a police.

Not really, there are lots of policemen that were trapped during an illegal cock fighting raid.  The raider just decided to let them go because of some agreement.  The information on police activities is not shared to other departments because it is confidential.

I really don't know the reason on why cock fighting is illegal while other gambling games are still illegal. I think this is because there's an animal that is involved or harmed here.

Yeah, animal cruelty, is one major reason why cockfighting is illegal to other countries.

Yeah, they're not allowed to participate and enter the gambling premises. Whether it's cockfighting or any type of gambling activity, it's part of the public official's oath that they shouldn't engage in any type of gambling activity or else, when they're reported, they'll take a sanction.
That's for sure but it can't be stopped if there are police officers that are still gambling no matter what the rules and oath they've taken, if they're a gambler, they'll always be a gambler.

Those kind of rules are incredibly difficult to enforce as it is not as if those which due to their profession cannot gamble will actually tell everyone they are doing it, another example of this are athletes which are not supposed to gamble on matches in which they participate, with some leagues asking to not even make any kind of bet on the league or the sport at all, and yet we get to know many examples of this over the years, and those are only the ones which are caught as most likely there are many athletes which break the rules and we never find out about it.

It's part of their oath and I think that they have to accept it but we're also sure that many of them break that rule and oath that they've promised.
I also a lot of those officials that have been involved in gambling and mainly in cockfighting because it's one of the most popular type of gambling in here.
In some gambling houses, I've seen that there's a poster that they're not allowing anyone that works in the government to enter and to gamble.

Government employess are public entities.  They are paid by the citizen so they should act morally.  So government employee should barred themselves in gambling vicinities and the rule of not letting them to enter helps a lot.  But the sad thing is, corruption is every where, the one that should implement rules and apply it are the one breaking them and restraining them.  I hope any government officials or authority involved in or committing illegal stuff be publicly executed to serve as an example.

[AicecreaME]

Yeah, they're not allowed to participate and enter the gambling premises. Whether it's cockfighting or any type of gambling activity, it's part of the public official's oath that they shouldn't engage in any type of gambling activity or else, when they're reported, they'll take a sanction.
That's for sure but it can't be stopped if there are police officers that are still gambling no matter what the rules and oath they've taken, if they're a gambler, they'll always be a gambler.

Those kind of rules are incredibly difficult to enforce as it is not as if those which due to their profession cannot gamble will actually tell everyone they are doing it, another example of this are athletes which are not supposed to gamble on matches in which they participate, with some leagues asking to not even make any kind of bet on the league or the sport at all, and yet we get to know many examples of this over the years, and those are only the ones which are caught as most likely there are many athletes which break the rules and we never find out about it.

It's part of their oath and I think that they have to accept it but we're also sure that many of them break that rule and oath that they've promised.
I also a lot of those officials that have been involved in gambling and mainly in cockfighting because it's one of the most popular type of gambling in here.
In some gambling houses, I've seen that there's a poster that they're not allowing anyone that works in the government to enter and to gamble.

Government employees aren't really allowed in most casino houses because of their line of work. Even Government officials are prohibited in most places that involve gambling and other sorts of activity that might be associated to such. This is to maintain their reputation clean. They also took an oath before sitting in the position to actually prioritize the public welfare instead of their own interest. Hence, they must abide by it. It's improper to see them gambling because the people might think they are not doing their job and they possibly are using the citizens' tax for their vices.

Reasons such as maintaining the reputation and posing to be a good role model to the constituents are enough reasons for them not to engage in gambling for whatever reasons they might have if they want to. It's a form of self-respect and respect to the people who trusted and elected you as well as to show them that your intention is to serve, and not any other else.

[Pamadar]

Seeing the same, in the place where i live, government officials are also participating, especially those police who love this gambling. Gamblers are free to play since they are heavily protected.

Police professionals here in our country are not allowed to participate in any form of gambling, especially in gambling like cockfighting.

That was prohibited because it might lead to self-interest and abuse. It will lead to kicking on the service permanently.

You will never see police here playing that gambling game that's why as much as possible they are hiding their identities just to play this gambling game.

Yeah, they're not allowed to participate and enter the gambling premises. Whether it's cockfighting or any type of gambling activity, it's part of the public official's oath that they shouldn't engage in any type of gambling activity or else, when they're reported, they'll take a sanction.
That's for sure but it can't be stopped if there are police officers that are still gambling no matter what the rules and oath they've taken, if they're a gambler, they'll always be a gambler.

Those kind of rules are incredibly difficult to enforce as it is not as if those which due to their profession cannot gamble will actually tell everyone they are doing it, another example of this are athletes which are not supposed to gamble on matches in which they participate, with some leagues asking to not even make any kind of bet on the league or the sport at all, and yet we get to know many examples of this over the years, and those are only the ones which are caught as most likely there are many athletes which break the rules and we never find out about it.

The influence of money will continue those people to do things that supposedly they are not allowed to do. You mentioned about
athletes and enforcers who are engaged with gambling.

Thye are getting a huge amount of money. That's the reason why they are involved
with gambling, not only limited to cockfight but the whole gambling activities
with the involvement of most government officials.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

I think the officer playing gambling could order other people to place bets while he remained in place watching if there was news of an ambush so he could immediately tell his friends in the casino to stay away for a while. The officials were very careful if they wanted to place a bet and would wait for the right time to come to the casino because they knew their fellow officers supervised all forms of gambling. That's why it's not easy to find where cockfighting is because only certain people are invited there.

This is the advantage of being a police because they know if there will be a raid that will happen and they can leave on that gambling place before their co-police came in the scene. It is still risky because what if someone reports them to their head? They can be fired out in an instant. That serves as a punishment because they are supposed to stop these kinds of activities, not to join them and encourage other people to do the same thing. This destroys their image as a police.

I really don't know the reason on why cock fighting is illegal while other gambling games are still illegal. I think this is because there's an animal that is involved or harmed here.

   - Here in our country, there are other places where cockfighting is illegal, but there are also other places where the LGUs allow it, depending on the place. But even though it is illegal, this fight against chickens continues to happen. Then the chicken owners don't care because they only want to gamble.

In short, the chicken in this kind of battle is destined to die in this kind of thing and it has no choice but to fight, or else if it loses it will be killed for sure.

[blockman]

Government employess are public entities.  They are paid by the citizen so they should act morally.  So government employee should barred themselves in gambling vicinities and the rule of not letting them to enter helps a lot.  But the sad thing is, corruption is every where, the one that should implement rules and apply it are the one breaking them and restraining them.  I hope any government officials or authority involved in or committing illegal stuff be publicly executed to serve as an example.

Yes, taxpayers are paying for their salaries and that's why they have that oath-taking that they shouldn't be found anywhere in a physical casino. That's against the moral values that they promised before they accepted their duty.
Corruption is like an accepted thing for most countries, no way to eradicate it unless from top to bottom officials have been cleansed and replaced with officials that are valuing their moral conduct.

[freedomgo]

I think the officer playing gambling could order other people to place bets while he remained in place watching if there was news of an ambush so he could immediately tell his friends in the casino to stay away for a while. The officials were very careful if they wanted to place a bet and would wait for the right time to come to the casino because they knew their fellow officers supervised all forms of gambling. That's why it's not easy to find where cockfighting is because only certain people are invited there.

This is the advantage of being a police because they know if there will be a raid that will happen and they can leave on that gambling place before their co-police came in the scene. It is still risky because what if someone reports them to their head? They can be fired out in an instant. That serves as a punishment because they are supposed to stop these kinds of activities, not to join them and encourage other people to do the same thing. This destroys their image as a police.

I really don't know the reason on why cock fighting is illegal while other gambling games are still illegal. I think this is because there's an animal that is involved or harmed here.

Well, surely they knew the risks and consequence if they will get caught gambling illegally with other gamblers but even though they knew that, they still chose indulge on such things because of the entertainment it an bring. One reason for that is at the end of the day, they are still a private citizen if they aren't wearing their uniforms who does gambling on one end.

To correct you on that last phrase. Cockfight is not entirely illegal, there are cockpits designated for people who wanted to gamble. What's illegal is all sorts of gambling that are not sanctioned by the government or who haven't got any permits to hold any gambling event and that includes cockfighting.

When you are off-duty then you do really have the rights as an ordinary citizen which means you could really make out involvement on things just like a normal citizen would tend to engage out but they aren't that
dumb on engaging on something that is illegal, once they're caught then say goodbye into their jobs.Its true that there would really be that legal places on where these cockfighting would be held upon.
But just as expected that there would be places that wont really be on scope of government and this is where illegal arenas been mold and gamblers or bettors will really be get arrested
once there would really be a raid.

Yes, but we cannot deny that some of these uniformed personnel are also engaging such events even though they knew it's illegal. Why? It's because they have that privilege to know because I'm sure they will hear such news if there will be a raid on that day so that he can avoid as the ones who will conduct the raid are also their colleagues.

[QueenVera]

This games is a very Interesting local game and i mostly watch them in movies and it has always been a very exciting game to watch and I also see the rate at which mostly the Mexican men bet on them.
I have been watching some cock fight in mostly Mexican and some Vietnam movies and I also see the joy in the faces of this gamblers and then you'll understand that it cost nothing to be happy.
I haven't witnessed either cock fight or ram fight and I would love to see one anytime I get the privilege to do so.
I could also remember when we were small and when we see cocks fight in our local environment, we onky argue who the winner would be but since there was no money attached to it, I wouldn't call it gambling I guess

[Betwrong]

~Thye are getting a huge amount of money. That's the reason why they are involved
with gambling, not only limited to cockfight but the whole gambling activities
with the involvement of most government officials.

I don't know, does cockfighting attract many gamblers, I mean, worldwide?

There's an article in Bloomberg, saying that "Online Cockfighting Wagers Rake in Billions in the Philippines". In the article they say that only one group’s revenue each month is about 1.5 billion Philippine Pesos($27 million USD), and that's a huge money, but is there another country like the Philippines in this regard?

[Pamadar]

~Thye are getting a huge amount of money. That's the reason why they are involved
with gambling, not only limited to cockfight but the whole gambling activities
with the involvement of most government officials.

I don't know, does cockfighting attract many gamblers, I mean, worldwide?

There's an article in Bloomberg, saying that "Online Cockfighting Wagers Rake in Billions in the Philippines". In the article they say that only one group’s revenue each month is about 1.5 billion Philippine Pesos($27 million USD), and that's a huge money, but is there another country like the Philippines in this regard?

Not sure about other countries but looking on that perspective, the chance that whatever countries still facilitating this gambling might continue to bring this business.

The revenue which is written is a basis alone and not the actual amount. There are sides betting which
is no longer count plus the illegal places where this gambling can be performed.

With that number, involvement of some government officials is really anticipated, money
will move them since it's an easy side income for them.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Seriously, what's the fun about cock fight game? it's animal abuse and that's not fun at all.

It's sad to see a cock that doesn't did anything wrong being forced to fight with each other until of them them sick or dead, while the owner will just looking for new cock again. I think any countries has a law about animals, if you see someone do this game, you can report it to police and they will arrest this dirty people.

I guess their motive is money. Maybe if you want to know directly you can ask them. Just watch them bet on their chickens. Then if their chickens win of course The price of their chickens will go up, they can earn more money.
My country banned cockfighting, even the police have arrested some of those activities. But it doesn't stop either, it seems that it is already a disease that is difficult to get rid of. Or maybe they've even bribed the police into keeping quiet.

One thing to note to those who did not know, when two cocks meet in the wild they will fight to the death, that is their instinct and they are not forced to fight each other. Some even said that it is a form of cruelty if you don't allow cocks to fight, funny but there's some truth to it if you see/know the characteristics of these birds.

This kind of activity is existing in out country for centuries ago that I don't think would stop immediately because of some people protesting for the welfare of those birds because like i said before, this industry generates billions of pesos and many families rely on this industry, they will starve if stopped abruptly.

Police and politician are also involve in this industry so this makes this thing even harder to stop. Manny Pacquiao, a champion boxer turned politician used to have a gamefowl farm which was too big that a company of goons have to guard it hehe.

Here in the Philippines there are a lot of big names involved with this kind of game because its all about not the cock fight only its also to gather connections with different parties which is good for politics and investment with their assets, even big names make a huge amount of bet with this game, also there's some hidden transactions happen like the recent news of the cockfighting there's a lot of people go because they lose a single game, but this is another topic. Also having this game is permitted and regulated that's why only illegal gambling of cockfight is prohibited and only the one who cater or support only have the protection.

This is something very curious, I thought that cockfighting was only in some towns, but due to the violence that is unleashed on those animals, it should be prohibited, right? where I live, in the towns they usually do this type of competition where it is rarely public in general, because it is usually quite private, that is because they are illegal things, personally I do not like to see those animals fighting, in fact I never I've seen that but on TV.

I am somewhat sensitive to seeing an animal suffer because in my house I have had some hens and chickens and I tend to get attached very quickly so it is something that caused me pain to see these little animals like this.

[freedomgo]

~Thye are getting a huge amount of money. That's the reason why they are involved
with gambling, not only limited to cockfight but the whole gambling activities
with the involvement of most government officials.

I don't know, does cockfighting attract many gamblers, I mean, worldwide?

There's an article in Bloomberg, saying that "Online Cockfighting Wagers Rake in Billions in the Philippines". In the article they say that only one group’s revenue each month is about 1.5 billion Philippine Pesos($27 million USD), and that's a huge money, but is there another country like the Philippines in this regard?

I think it's not much of a worldwide game that attracts many gamblers around the globe, cockfighting only exist in handful countries in South-East Asia. I've searched it on the internet, it shows that it's also famous in Latin America but gamblers are not that drawn to it unlike to the countries in Asia.

And it's true that E-Sabong (Online Cockfighting) has a revenue of about 1.5 Billion Pesos monthly but that was before it's still legal because now, government has banned E-Sabong, but live cockfight games do exists legally, just not the online version.

[bounceback]

Yes, in our country, I would say that cockfighting specially during the pandemic, is very rampant as you can play it online. But even prior to it, I used to be avid fan or bettors of this cock fight, so yeah I'm more familiar with it and I would say that I win some money in the past.

Of course, there will always be some groups that are going to condemn this kind of games that involved animals specially in the end one of them are killed for the sake of human betting on them and making money. So to each his/her own belief.

Cockfighting has already evolved a long long time ago. But if we can try to stop it in this new generation, I think that will a lot of help to lengthen the lives not only for those cocks but definitely for those animals who have been fighting each other just to win a bet. For me, it’s more on animal cruelty so it should be encourage to be ban or to stop betting in animals.

In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

[ethereumhunter]

In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

But it still happens in some countries and they still do it in hidden places. This type of gambling can interest gamblers and wherever it is, they will know it because they can get the location from their other friends. Even though there is a lot of online gambling now, I don't think it will eliminate traditional gambling because many people still play traditional gambling. This requires hard work from law enforcement in all countries because this traditional gambling network can still develop amidst the rise of online gambling.

[danherbias07]

~Thye are getting a huge amount of money. That's the reason why they are involved
with gambling, not only limited to cockfight but the whole gambling activities
with the involvement of most government officials.

I don't know, does cockfighting attract many gamblers, I mean, worldwide?

There's an article in Bloomberg, saying that "Online Cockfighting Wagers Rake in Billions in the Philippines". In the article they say that only one group’s revenue each month is about 1.5 billion Philippine Pesos($27 million USD), and that's a huge money, but is there another country like the Philippines in this regard?

It can. It's a known blood sport, or whatever it is called. But the problem is the legality of it.
A lot of countries are against it because it can be played anywhere such as a small field or just a place where there is soil and breeding gamecocks is not that hard too. The government won't make anything if they do this on their own.
In fact, I have a neighbor here who is a breeder of gamecocks, I ask him if he does gamble but he said he is not, he just sells all the cocks that he bred and does it over again.

[peter0425]

In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

But it still happens in some countries and they still do it in hidden places. This type of gambling can interest gamblers and wherever it is, they will know it because they can get the location from their other friends. Even though there is a lot of online gambling now, I don't think it will eliminate traditional gambling because many people still play traditional gambling. This requires hard work from law enforcement in all countries because this traditional gambling network can still develop amidst the rise of online gambling.

actually there are more cock fighting happens outside the legalities , I mean there are so many guerilla cock fighting coming from every part of Asian countries , I should Know because I am still witnessing this till now.
that cops are being Paid upfront just not to disturb those betting meaning there are so much corruption happening from this and I believe that this is a bread and butter of many people from legal to illegal .

[Shinpako09]

In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

But it still happens in some countries and they still do it in hidden places. This type of gambling can interest gamblers and wherever it is, they will know it because they can get the location from their other friends. Even though there is a lot of online gambling now, I don't think it will eliminate traditional gambling because many people still play traditional gambling. This requires hard work from law enforcement in all countries because this traditional gambling network can still develop amidst the rise of online gambling.

actually there are more cock fighting happens outside the legalities , I mean there are so many guerilla cock fighting coming from every part of Asian countries , I should Know because I am still witnessing this till now.
that cops are being Paid upfront just not to disturb those betting meaning there are so much corruption happening from this and I believe that this is a bread and butter of many people from legal to illegal .

+1 to this. Not just cockfighting but also other kind of street/local gambling. You'll even get protection from the police. They will block other agency from interfering and such thing is very common up to now in some part of Asia. Money talks. They will turned a blind eye in illegal gambling. It has been deeply rooted in the society.

[btc78]

In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

But it still happens in some countries and they still do it in hidden places. This type of gambling can interest gamblers and wherever it is, they will know it because they can get the location from their other friends. Even though there is a lot of online gambling now, I don't think it will eliminate traditional gambling because many people still play traditional gambling. This requires hard work from law enforcement in all countries because this traditional gambling network can still develop amidst the rise of online gambling.

actually there are more cock fighting happens outside the legalities , I mean there are so many guerilla cock fighting coming from every part of Asian countries , I should Know because I am still witnessing this till now.
that cops are being Paid upfront just not to disturb those betting meaning there are so much corruption happening from this and I believe that this is a bread and butter of many people from legal to illegal .

+1 to this. Not just cockfighting but also other kind of street/local gambling. You'll even get protection from the police. They will block other agency from interfering and such thing is very common up to now in some part of Asia. Money talks. They will turned a blind eye in illegal gambling. It has been deeply rooted in the society.

Looks like most of us has this understanding , Yeah there are several gambling house that I often visiting and playing that offers prohibited gambling in my place but being protected by Bad Cops , in which they are collecting money from the operator so the game will continue not even there is a massive clean up.

we are safe each day and know what? it operate 24/7 , but there are days that it is closed due to politician presence and they dont wanna find out the operation .

[Chato1977]

There are so much to expect from this gambling as it is performed all over Asia and some part of Europe and latin america ,  but I don't think that this is a good to conduct as it is cruel to animal .
I remember in the past when there is a  dog fighting near my place but now being shut down to Illegal activities , Animal should live also and not be used in this kind of cruelty .

[pungopete468]

I always see this cock fight topic but I haven't actually seen one yet, do you know a gambling site that supports this kind of match? I am just curious about how it was played, how was the odds and was it really that popular? or it is for some countries only? I think horse racing is much more popular than this kind of game.

[Oasisman]

I always see this cock fight topic but I haven't actually seen one yet, do you know a gambling site that supports this kind of match? I am just curious about how it was played, how was the odds and was it really that popular? or it is for some countries only? I think horse racing is much more popular than this kind of game.

If you go over and take time to read some of the replies in this thread you'll find out that there are no international betting platform on this kind of gambling. You know the reason why?  Because, as you can see we all have our own  perspective on what animal cruelty really is. Western people finds it a clear sign of animal cruelty, while most of the people in the south part of Asia see this as a culture. Therefore, most of the betting platform for cock fighting was only limited locally.

A lot of debates happening here and it's not gonna end, simply because we have different culture and perspective on this matter. So, I guess it's better for the OP to just lock this thread and rest this case.

[ethereumhunter]

In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

But it still happens in some countries and they still do it in hidden places. This type of gambling can interest gamblers and wherever it is, they will know it because they can get the location from their other friends. Even though there is a lot of online gambling now, I don't think it will eliminate traditional gambling because many people still play traditional gambling. This requires hard work from law enforcement in all countries because this traditional gambling network can still develop amidst the rise of online gambling.

actually there are more cock fighting happens outside the legalities , I mean there are so many guerilla cock fighting coming from every part of Asian countries , I should Know because I am still witnessing this till now.
that cops are being Paid upfront just not to disturb those betting meaning there are so much corruption happening from this and I believe that this is a bread and butter of many people from legal to illegal .

The corrupt police will cover up the illegal gambling that is taking place in the place because it is their extra money that keeps the illegal gambling going. If we talk about Asian countries, traditional gambling is still running with the support of those corrupt police and even if there are clean police who try to find gambling places, they will not be able to find and clean up the roots. What the clean police have to do is investigate who the corrupt police officers are and give them harsh punishments so that other police officers will think again if they want to commit corruption. And it's not just cockfighting on the list of online gambling, but there are also lottery or traditional card games used to play gambling.

[lienfaye]

Yes, in our country, I would say that cockfighting specially during the pandemic, is very rampant as you can play it online. But even prior to it, I used to be avid fan or bettors of this cock fight, so yeah I'm more familiar with it and I would say that I win some money in the past.

Of course, there will always be some groups that are going to condemn this kind of games that involved animals specially in the end one of them are killed for the sake of human betting on them and making money. So to each his/her own belief.

Cockfighting has already evolved a long long time ago. But if we can try to stop it in this new generation, I think that will a lot of help to lengthen the lives not only for those cocks but definitely for those animals who have been fighting each other just to win a bet. For me, it’s more on animal cruelty so it should be encourage to be ban or to stop betting in animals.

In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

Despite of having plenty of games for gamblers to play and bet on, there are still people who used to and preferred this kind of gambling especially for older men or those living in rural areas. This is usual when there's a fiesta or event for people to gather and have an enjoyment. It became a traditional gambling that people can't get rid of even it's an animal cruelty. For new generation, this is not the kind of gambling that we like to bet on since physical and online casinos are already existing to give entertainment even at the comfort of our home.

[qory]

Despite of having plenty of games for gamblers to play and bet on, there are still people who used to and preferred this kind of gambling especially for older men or those living in rural areas. This is usual when there's a fiesta or event for people to gather and have an enjoyment. It became a traditional gambling that people can't get rid of even it's an animal cruelty. For new generation, this is not the kind of gambling that we like to bet on since physical and online casinos are already existing to give entertainment even at the comfort of our home.

I think this kind of game or gambling is popular in Asian countries. I really don't encourage this kind of match as it would risk the life of the roosters but for some people they get used to it that's why I would like to visit Asian country just to watch live cock fight match.

[Baofeng]

Yes, in our country, I would say that cockfighting specially during the pandemic, is very rampant as you can play it online. But even prior to it, I used to be avid fan or bettors of this cock fight, so yeah I'm more familiar with it and I would say that I win some money in the past.

Of course, there will always be some groups that are going to condemn this kind of games that involved animals specially in the end one of them are killed for the sake of human betting on them and making money. So to each his/her own belief.

Cockfighting has already evolved a long long time ago. But if we can try to stop it in this new generation, I think that will a lot of help to lengthen the lives not only for those cocks but definitely for those animals who have been fighting each other just to win a bet. For me, it’s more on animal cruelty so it should be encourage to be ban or to stop betting in animals.

In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

Despite of having plenty of games for gamblers to play and bet on, there are still people who used to and preferred this kind of gambling especially for older men or those living in rural areas. This is usual when there's a fiesta or event for people to gather and have an enjoyment. It became a traditional gambling that people can't get rid of even it's an animal cruelty. For new generation, this is not the kind of gambling that we like to bet on since physical and online casinos are already existing to give entertainment even at the comfort of our home.

Not a days though it's not just for older people, even the young generation are fond of cock fighting in Asia. I mean this is competition, just like any combat sports. You take care of them, given them vitamins and train and hoping that one day, they will win big for the owners themselves.

And so it's not just for everyone, it's for also the rich guys because the money involved here is huge and so the bet is huge as well.

It's a tradition that I don't think will stop but will continue from generations to generations.

[BobK71]

In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

But it still happens in some countries and they still do it in hidden places. This type of gambling can interest gamblers and wherever it is, they will know it because they can get the location from their other friends. Even though there is a lot of online gambling now, I don't think it will eliminate traditional gambling because many people still play traditional gambling. This requires hard work from law enforcement in all countries because this traditional gambling network can still develop amidst the rise of online gambling.

actually there are more cock fighting happens outside the legalities , I mean there are so many guerilla cock fighting coming from every part of Asian countries , I should Know because I am still witnessing this till now.
that cops are being Paid upfront just not to disturb those betting meaning there are so much corruption happening from this and I believe that this is a bread and butter of many people from legal to illegal .

If the majority of the population of a country supports such a game, it will not be possible for the government to stop it. But it is also possible to control such games if a small number of people conduct such games by conveying the local law enforcement agencies. I would also say that this practice may be in some countries of the Asian continent. Especially India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal. If the local administration is not sincere in this matter then it is not possible to abolish these old customs.

[maydna]

Despite of having plenty of games for gamblers to play and bet on, there are still people who used to and preferred this kind of gambling especially for older men or those living in rural areas. This is usual when there's a fiesta or event for people to gather and have an enjoyment. It became a traditional gambling that people can't get rid of even it's an animal cruelty. For new generation, this is not the kind of gambling that we like to bet on since physical and online casinos are already existing to give entertainment even at the comfort of our home.

I think this kind of game or gambling is popular in Asian countries. I really don't encourage this kind of match as it would risk the life of the roosters but for some people they get used to it that's why I would like to visit Asian country just to watch live cock fight match.

The cockfighting game is popular in Asian countries, and many people still watch it. This is because cockfighting is a traditional game that is hard to eliminate because of the fun factor of each person who watches it. But today's younger generation prefers online casinos to play gambling even though some watch the games. But I hope that people who bet on cockfighting understand that chickens are living things that shouldn't be used as bets. Many other traditional gambling games still don't require animals to bet.

[CryptoYar]

It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

It used to happen in my country few years back, but now thankfully the government has imposed strict laws on it. Now if you are caught red-handedly, you will be jailed for 6 months. Or have to pay a fine.

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human,

Fun?. It is an ignorant act to inflict pain on a living thing just for the sake of having fun or for betting. Have we got nothing else to gamble on?

have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before.

I've never been involved but I've seen videos on YouTube.

Can such game be in the casino?

No way!

[rahmad2nd]

Despite of having plenty of games for gamblers to play and bet on, there are still people who used to and preferred this kind of gambling especially for older men or those living in rural areas. This is usual when there's a fiesta or event for people to gather and have an enjoyment. It became a traditional gambling that people can't get rid of even it's an animal cruelty. For new generation, this is not the kind of gambling that we like to bet on since physical and online casinos are already existing to give entertainment even at the comfort of our home.

I think this kind of game or gambling is popular in Asian countries. I really don't encourage this kind of match as it would risk the life of the roosters but for some people they get used to it that's why I would like to visit Asian country just to watch live cock fight match.

In my country these traditional games have been banned. in fact, cockfighting has existed from ancient times. it's just that, from the past it was not allowed to involve betting. As time progresses, cockfighting becomes entertainment for the wider community in rural areas which cannot be separated from gambling activities. now, especially in my country. anything related to cockfighting has been illegal, without exception.

Only one province still allows it, because cockfighting events are related to religious ceremonial rituals. yes, you can look for it in a search engine about cockfighting culture in the province of Bali. even then, this event does not become a routine event, only on important religious days. and this event, will be held simultaneously with other ceremonies in one of the temples.

Despite all this, we as a modern society. it is fitting, to abandon the traditions of torturing animals as a spectacle of complaint. we have an online casino, which is easier for us to access without having to hurt the animals. after all, online casinos offer a wider variety of gambling with the various features on offer. it's time, for us to leave things that threaten the freedom of fellow living beings.

[ChiBitCTy]

When is this sick and disgusting thread going to end already.  I really do respect the fact that this forum has freedom of speech, but when it comes to hate/physical acts of violence being promoted I'm just not so sure I can get down with that.

But the one thing of the freedom of speech I do enjoy is telling each and every one of you who support this that I hate you.  I think you're sick twisted demented fucks and that you need major psychological help.  You and your country need to evolve as humans if you think this is okay.  It's as simple as that.

[Kasabus]

Despite of having plenty of games for gamblers to play and bet on, there are still people who used to and preferred this kind of gambling especially for older men or those living in rural areas. This is usual when there's a fiesta or event for people to gather and have an enjoyment. It became a traditional gambling that people can't get rid of even it's an animal cruelty. For new generation, this is not the kind of gambling that we like to bet on since physical and online casinos are already existing to give entertainment even at the comfort of our home.

I think this kind of game or gambling is popular in Asian countries. I really don't encourage this kind of match as it would risk the life of the roosters but for some people they get used to it that's why I would like to visit Asian country just to watch live cock fight match.

The cockfighting game is popular in Asian countries, and many people still watch it. This is because cockfighting is a traditional game that is hard to eliminate because of the fun factor of each person who watches it. But today's younger generation prefers online casinos to play gambling even though some watch the games. But I hope that people who bet on cockfighting understand that chickens are living things that shouldn't be used as bets. Many other traditional gambling games still don't require animals to bet.

As you said, these kind of traditions where animals are involved in such games are not that easy to eliminate because it's already part of that specific county's tradition, I know for a fact that these people who indulge in such games do know that chickens are living things but despite of that fact, they still chose to raise some of these chickens to prepare them for a fight when they grow older. I know it's harsh but sadly, that's the truth and even the government doesn't want to involve themselves because it will affect their image when they needed some votes for the upcoming election.

[bitgov]

Despite of having plenty of games for gamblers to play and bet on, there are still people who used to and preferred this kind of gambling especially for older men or those living in rural areas. This is usual when there's a fiesta or event for people to gather and have an enjoyment. It became a traditional gambling that people can't get rid of even it's an animal cruelty. For new generation, this is not the kind of gambling that we like to bet on since physical and online casinos are already existing to give entertainment even at the comfort of our home.

I think this kind of game or gambling is popular in Asian countries. I really don't encourage this kind of match as it would risk the life of the roosters but for some people they get used to it that's why I would like to visit Asian country just to watch live cock fight match.

The cockfighting game is popular in Asian countries, and many people still watch it. This is because cockfighting is a traditional game that is hard to eliminate because of the fun factor of each person who watches it. But today's younger generation prefers online casinos to play gambling even though some watch the games. But I hope that people who bet on cockfighting understand that chickens are living things that shouldn't be used as bets. Many other traditional gambling games still don't require animals to bet.

As you said, these kind of traditions where animals are involved in such games are not that easy to eliminate because it's already part of that specific county's tradition, I know for a fact that these people who indulge in such games do know that chickens are living things but despite of that fact, they still chose to raise some of these chickens to prepare them for a fight when they grow older. I know it's harsh but sadly, that's the truth and even the government doesn't want to involve themselves because it will affect their image when they needed some votes for the upcoming election.

in our country - in many villages many men keeps the cock - and they train them for the fight and enjoys it.
I cannot see animal fighting - once I saw bear and dog fight and the bear was injured - the kids cried so much and I didn't sleep the whole night

[goinmerry]

As you said, these kind of traditions where animals are involved in such games are not that easy to eliminate because it's already part of that specific county's tradition, I know for a fact that these people who indulge in such games do know that chickens are living things but despite of that fact, they still chose to raise some of these chickens to prepare them for a fight when they grow older.

Not all chickens are designed for farming or poultry raising. Those fighting chickens do have a breed and can't be compared to the capability of those in the poultry. In other words, these fighting chickens are useless when raised as poultry for food or egg production purposes, and as a result, they are used in cockfighting.

People should just accept that these games will continue to exist especially in those countries that allow the operation of this.

As long as the operations are running legally, that's fine. Hunt down those running illegally as they are not contributing to the revenue of the country.

[Peanutswar]

As you said, these kind of traditions where animals are involved in such games are not that easy to eliminate because it's already part of that specific county's tradition, I know for a fact that these people who indulge in such games do know that chickens are living things but despite of that fact, they still chose to raise some of these chickens to prepare them for a fight when they grow older.

Not all chickens are designed for farming or poultry raising. Those fighting chickens do have a breed and can't be compared to the capability of those in the poultry. In other words, these fighting chickens are useless when raised as poultry for food or egg production purposes, and as a result, they are used in cockfighting.

People should just accept that these games will continue to exist especially in those countries that allow the operation of this.

As long as the operations are running legally, that's fine. Hunt down those running illegally as they are not contributing to the revenue of the country.

People see cock fighting is part of their traditions and course, it's part of their daily routine to have a feeding of their animals and one of their leisure time and also part of their gambling habit and entertainment is the cock fight, some of the rural part they don't need some management or rule under the government because some of them is scattered most likely they are just regulated in the urban. I don't have any idea yet if they must need to have a paper to make a casual play of cock fighting.

[harizen]

I don't have any idea yet if they must need to have a paper to make a casual play of cock fighting.

For a casual or small time, pastime, or between just friends or a known person, they can do cockfighting without the need for any paper or documents.

For legally operated cockfighting arenas where fights happened regularly like an everyday operation, those cocks should be registered with their official breeders. They can't just go there and put their cocks on the fight to earn money.

Since it's business, the organizers are paying taxes, as usual, that's why authorities shut down those operations that are running under the shadows.

[peter0425]

In some countries gambling such as cockfighting has become a tradition that has been going on for a long time from time to time, but this type of gambling is a very worrying bet because it smells of torturing living things (animals), in my opinion in the modern era like now this type of cockfighting gambling has is no longer relevant because now there are so many online gambling games available that we can play, I agree with you that law enforcement in all countries are trying to stop this gambling.

But it still happens in some countries and they still do it in hidden places. This type of gambling can interest gamblers and wherever it is, they will know it because they can get the location from their other friends. Even though there is a lot of online gambling now, I don't think it will eliminate traditional gambling because many people still play traditional gambling. This requires hard work from law enforcement in all countries because this traditional gambling network can still develop amidst the rise of online gambling.

actually there are more cock fighting happens outside the legalities , I mean there are so many guerilla cock fighting coming from every part of Asian countries , I should Know because I am still witnessing this till now.
that cops are being Paid upfront just not to disturb those betting meaning there are so much corruption happening from this and I believe that this is a bread and butter of many people from legal to illegal .

+1 to this. Not just cockfighting but also other kind of street/local gambling. You'll even get protection from the police. They will block other agency from interfering and such thing is very common up to now in some part of Asia. Money talks. They will turned a blind eye in illegal gambling. It has been deeply rooted in the society.

actually this happens worldwide? though there are some countries that has less or truly none but almost 99% of the world has this kind of police abuse or corrupt  politicians and protectors that's why they can continue to polish their money making without being interfered .
and the most affected are those become addicted because of this system.

[maydna]

Despite of having plenty of games for gamblers to play and bet on, there are still people who used to and preferred this kind of gambling especially for older men or those living in rural areas. This is usual when there's a fiesta or event for people to gather and have an enjoyment. It became a traditional gambling that people can't get rid of even it's an animal cruelty. For new generation, this is not the kind of gambling that we like to bet on since physical and online casinos are already existing to give entertainment even at the comfort of our home.

I think this kind of game or gambling is popular in Asian countries. I really don't encourage this kind of match as it would risk the life of the roosters but for some people they get used to it that's why I would like to visit Asian country just to watch live cock fight match.

The cockfighting game is popular in Asian countries, and many people still watch it. This is because cockfighting is a traditional game that is hard to eliminate because of the fun factor of each person who watches it. But today's younger generation prefers online casinos to play gambling even though some watch the games. But I hope that people who bet on cockfighting understand that chickens are living things that shouldn't be used as bets. Many other traditional gambling games still don't require animals to bet.

Each country does have their own culture when it comes to some aspects which it might really be looking bad into most peoples eyes but eventually these things are something turns out to be traditional.

Lets just respect on whats other views and activities in related to gambling.It might not really be that looking good or something in correlates with animal cruelty but since this do involves gamefowl
which are really that easy to breed and easy to be produced or something then it wont really be that much an issue.

It is really just there are places on this world which we do really differ into things that we are getting involved with.

Something traditional may still have its own fans, especially for those who have had good experiences in the past so they continue to play it. And this is what happened with cockfighting gambling, where there are still many people who gamble using cocks and win some money.

But we must not let them continue to play cockfighting because it involves the lives of animals. They could accept it by giving them the sense that it's irrelevant to today's era and explaining something else. But if they can't accept it, that's up to them and they will also suffer the consequences later.

Despite of having plenty of games for gamblers to play and bet on, there are still people who used to and preferred this kind of gambling especially for older men or those living in rural areas. This is usual when there's a fiesta or event for people to gather and have an enjoyment. It became a traditional gambling that people can't get rid of even it's an animal cruelty. For new generation, this is not the kind of gambling that we like to bet on since physical and online casinos are already existing to give entertainment even at the comfort of our home.

I think this kind of game or gambling is popular in Asian countries. I really don't encourage this kind of match as it would risk the life of the roosters but for some people they get used to it that's why I would like to visit Asian country just to watch live cock fight match.

The cockfighting game is popular in Asian countries, and many people still watch it. This is because cockfighting is a traditional game that is hard to eliminate because of the fun factor of each person who watches it. But today's younger generation prefers online casinos to play gambling even though some watch the games. But I hope that people who bet on cockfighting understand that chickens are living things that shouldn't be used as bets. Many other traditional gambling games still don't require animals to bet.

As you said, these kind of traditions where animals are involved in such games are not that easy to eliminate because it's already part of that specific county's tradition, I know for a fact that these people who indulge in such games do know that chickens are living things but despite of that fact, they still chose to raise some of these chickens to prepare them for a fight when they grow older. I know it's harsh but sadly, that's the truth and even the government doesn't want to involve themselves because it will affect their image when they needed some votes for the upcoming election.

But the government is also not silent about cockfighting that is still operating in their area and there are some of them trying to make gamblers aware that it is no longer a good thing to do. And it's time for gamblers to divert to other things that might be more useful for their lives. Hopefully, the awareness of those who still gamble on cockfighting can come, and many of them will leave later.

[Kasabus]

As you said, these kind of traditions where animals are involved in such games are not that easy to eliminate because it's already part of that specific county's tradition, I know for a fact that these people who indulge in such games do know that chickens are living things but despite of that fact, they still chose to raise some of these chickens to prepare them for a fight when they grow older.

Not all chickens are designed for farming or poultry raising. Those fighting chickens do have a breed and can't be compared to the capability of those in the poultry. In other words, these fighting chickens are useless when raised as poultry for food or egg production purposes, and as a result, they are used in cockfighting.

People should just accept that these games will continue to exist especially in those countries that allow the operation of this.

As long as the operations are running legally, that's fine. Hunt down those running illegally as they are not contributing to the revenue of the country.

Yet, it's all the same because after all, it is still a chicken no matter what breed it is or what's their design and eventually, the people are still the ones who will decide what's their fate because if we go in rural areas, breeds don't matter as chickens are chickens as long as they will lay some eggs and reproduce.

Anyway, back to the topic, I know we all have our own beliefs and views about these things. We should also know and shouldn't forget that we all have our own differences, these kinds of traditions will not cease even if we like it or not because as long as the government will allow it, operations will still continue.

[chaser15]

But we must not let them continue to play cockfighting because it involves the lives of animals.

Are you really serious about that?

Can we apply that argument to poultry chickens that were every day killed for human consumption? Or you will say that it's another story because people need to eat every day regardless if it's a chicken or not?

I don't understand why you are against cockfighting because it involves the "lives" of animals but enjoys eating a chicken meal.

There's no Science or Math there.

[o48o]

Each country does have their own culture when it comes to some aspects which it might really be looking bad into most peoples eyes but eventually these things are something turns out to be traditional.

Lets just respect on whats other views and activities in related to gambling.It might not really be that looking good or something in correlates with animal cruelty but since this do involves gamefowl
which are really that easy to breed and easy to be produced or something then it wont really be that much an issue.
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I disagree with this point of view strongly. I won't be brushing cruelty against animals under the mat because it's cultural thing. There are many things that you don't have to respect just because they are based on old ways. Many people in these countries don't respect them either. Some of these laws preventing animal cruelty would move forward faster when there would be a public outcry and these governments decide to step in as they care about their optics and tourism. Some injustices need to be talked about or otherwise they won't ever change.

[Quidat]

Each country does have their own culture when it comes to some aspects which it might really be looking bad into most peoples eyes but eventually these things are something turns out to be traditional.

Lets just respect on whats other views and activities in related to gambling.It might not really be that looking good or something in correlates with animal cruelty but since this do involves gamefowl
which are really that easy to breed and easy to be produced or something then it wont really be that much an issue.
-cut-

I disagree with this point of view strongly. I won't be brushing cruelty against animals under the mat because it's cultural thing. There are many things that you don't have to respect just because they are based on old ways. Many people in these countries don't respect them either. Some of these laws preventing animal cruelty would move forward faster when there would be a public outcry and these governments decide to step in as they care about their optics and tourism. Some injustices need to be talked about or otherwise they won't ever change.

Some would stick and some would'nt and it would really be depending on how their government wouldreally be taking a stance on regarding on a particular manner.We cant really deny
that government decisions does really give out some impact in some part of cultural things on a certain country.If they are really that too emphasizing when it comes to animal
cruelty then it would really goes down the way in overall but if there would be some changes then they might be reconsidering it.
It is really that very situational and something could be changed and it do really varies.

[goinmerry]

Each country does have their own culture when it comes to some aspects which it might really be looking bad into most peoples eyes but eventually these things are something turns out to be traditional.

Lets just respect on whats other views and activities in related to gambling.It might not really be that looking good or something in correlates with animal cruelty but since this do involves gamefowl
which are really that easy to breed and easy to be produced or something then it wont really be that much an issue.
-cut-

I disagree with this point of view strongly. I won't be brushing cruelty against animals under the mat because it's cultural thing. There are many things that you don't have to respect just because they are based on old ways. Many people in these countries don't respect them either. Some of these laws preventing animal cruelty would move forward faster when there would be a public outcry and these governments decide to step in as they care about their optics and tourism. Some injustices need to be talked about or otherwise they won't ever change.

Then what's your solution to stop all this mess? Can you do something to stop the cultural activities that are legal in a country?

Don't act like that as in a country where cock fight is legal and many people support it, it will just continue.

Rather than stress yourself on how to stop it, you can just easily and simply ignore it.

[Jemzx00]

Each country does have their own culture when it comes to some aspects which it might really be looking bad into most peoples eyes but eventually these things are something turns out to be traditional.

Lets just respect on whats other views and activities in related to gambling.It might not really be that looking good or something in correlates with animal cruelty but since this do involves gamefowl
which are really that easy to breed and easy to be produced or something then it wont really be that much an issue.
-cut-

I disagree with this point of view strongly. I won't be brushing cruelty against animals under the mat because it's cultural thing. There are many things that you don't have to respect just because they are based on old ways. Many people in these countries don't respect them either. Some of these laws preventing animal cruelty would move forward faster when there would be a public outcry and these governments decide to step in as they care about their optics and tourism. Some injustices need to be talked about or otherwise they won't ever change.

Then what's your solution to stop all this mess? Can you do something to stop the cultural activities that are legal in a country?

Don't act like that as in a country where cock fight is legal and many people support it, it will just continue.

Rather than stress yourself on how to stop it, you can just easily and simply ignore it.

I don't see anything wrong with o48o's opinion as I think it is actually right. I also live in a country where cock fighting is too common, and a lot of people are involved on it however not because it's somehow a culture that goes way back and doesn't justify that it should be legal to make animals fight to the death. I know that we kill these chickens for our own consumption, but it should be done without unnecessary violence and cruelty.

I also, remember how Dog fights were common in a lot of countries including mine where there are even instances that dogs are used for our own consumption as well but right now, it is now illegal.

[minime0105]

Each country does have their own culture when it comes to some aspects which it might really be looking bad into most peoples eyes but eventually these things are something turns out to be traditional.

Lets just respect on whats other views and activities in related to gambling.It might not really be that looking good or something in correlates with animal cruelty but since this do involves gamefowl
which are really that easy to breed and easy to be produced or something then it wont really be that much an issue.
-cut-

I disagree with this point of view strongly. I won't be brushing cruelty against animals under the mat because it's cultural thing. There are many things that you don't have to respect just because they are based on old ways. Many people in these countries don't respect them either. Some of these laws preventing animal cruelty would move forward faster when there would be a public outcry and these governments decide to step in as they care about their optics and tourism. Some injustices need to be talked about or otherwise they won't ever change.

Then what's your solution to stop all this mess? Can you do something to stop the cultural activities that are legal in a country?

Don't act like that as in a country where cock fight is legal and many people support it, it will just continue.

Rather than stress yourself on how to stop it, you can just easily and simply ignore it.

What I want to add in this aspect is that a norms or a culture that is been established buy a particular tribe or a particular country it will be very difficult before someone can abolish it, I am saying this due to her reaction over this cook fight we are emphasising on, so I believe that you should have your own norms and any country that have eight months like to follow it with a precaution that no one can change or alternate it.

[KennyR]

Most of the games in which animals were involved were much connected to the tradition and culture. In the name of harming animals more and more activists come out against them. This shouldn't happen, because they're following what is being followed by the ancestors.

[Sithara007]

Most of the games in which animals were involved were much connected to the tradition and culture. In the name of harming animals more and more activists come out against them. This shouldn't happen, because they're following what is being followed by the ancestors.

I am against harming animals. But at the same time, I find a lot of hypocrisy in what these people (animal rights activists) say. They have no problem against large scale corporate agrobusinesses, where poultry and cattle are treated with utmost cruelty. And they always attack poor tribal or rural people who perform activities such as cock fight as a part of their culture. And although such activities cause the death of animals or birds, it also preserves rare breeds and species. Activists always try to paint a one-sided picture, which is far from reality.

[yazher]

Most of the games in which animals were involved were much connected to the tradition and culture. In the name of harming animals more and more activists come out against them. This shouldn't happen, because they're following what is being followed by the ancestors.

We are thankful for these kinds of people who are making some changes and sacrificing their time and money to pursue these goals because if no one will ever step forward to do an action, they will forever mistreat animals as if nothing like a tool. PETA for example is one of the known organizations to help abused animals and other non-profit organizations as well.  But the problem for the others are they went way out of topic when they even push not to eat animals just because they cannot consume due to their lack of understanding, now they want people to follow them also which is not right because some of these livestock animals are meant to be eaten as well for us to consume.

[bisdak40]

Most of the games in which animals were involved were much connected to the tradition and culture. In the name of harming animals more and more activists come out against them. This shouldn't happen, because they're following what is being followed by the ancestors.

Cockfighting is part of a tradition in our country and must be respected just like any other culture/tradition wherein they kill animals like the ones I saw on YouTube where a certain country kills hundreds of dolphins and to think that dolphins are harder to reproduce than fighting birds, I mean they can go instinct if not controlled.

Now that cockfighting generates billions of pesos in our country, I don't think that this stop because some group of activists says so because by stopping this industry, many will starve.

[YOSHIE]

Most of the games in which animals were involved were much connected to the tradition and culture. In the name of harming animals more and more activists come out against them. This shouldn't happen, because they're following what is being followed by the ancestors.

Maybe we all have to be aware and have to distinguish between tradition and culture, some adherents believe that cockfighting or similar animals are indeed considered as heirs of ancestors that must be fostered so that they are sustainable from generation to generation.

But as time goes by and technology has developed in remote villages many traditions and cultures have been eliminated such as hurting animals, they understand that this tradition is torturing animals.
I see in eliminating one tradition and culture such as cockfighting, the understanding is broken into two parts, one party is eliminated cockfighting the other party must be held.
What is clear is that law enforcement must come down to take a middle ground in this opinion, the decision of the rules, cocks may be fought as long as the weapons on their legs must be cut off or closed, if a weapon is found opened and not cut, a fine of 10X the amount of the bet placed, we are talking about a part of the country that does not prohibit gambling.

[maydna]

But we must not let them continue to play cockfighting because it involves the lives of animals.

Are you really serious about that?

Can we apply that argument to poultry chickens that were every day killed for human consumption? Or you will say that it's another story because people need to eat every day regardless if it's a chicken or not?

I don't understand why you are against cockfighting because it involves the "lives" of animals but enjoys eating a chicken meal.

There's no Science or Math there.

That's different buddy. Poultry chickens that are killed for human consumption every day are those that are reared and used for consumption. But a chicken to play cockfighting will become a carcass when the chicken dies, although you can still eat it. It's completely different.

Maybe you enjoy playing cockfighting, and there is a different feeling when you see the cocks betting, getting injured, and some even dying in the middle of the match. But I don't, and go ahead if you like it.

[electronicash]

But we must not let them continue to play cockfighting because it involves the lives of animals.

Are you really serious about that?

Can we apply that argument to poultry chickens that were every day killed for human consumption? Or you will say that it's another story because people need to eat every day regardless if it's a chicken or not?

I don't understand why you are against cockfighting because it involves the "lives" of animals but enjoys eating a chicken meal.

There's no Science or Math there.

That's different buddy. Poultry chickens that are killed for human consumption every day are those that are reared and used for consumption. But a chicken to play cockfighting will become a carcass when the chicken dies, although you can still eat it. It's completely different.

Maybe you enjoy playing cockfighting, and there is a different feeling when you see the cocks betting, getting injured, and some even dying in the middle of the match. But I don't, and go ahead if you like it.

well we eat them, i personally had ate some of these rooster when they die in the fight. but that was years ago.
most raiser of these cock fighters are sentimental that if their cock fighter won several times like a champ, they save its race and keep it alive even if its wounded severely. and then reproduce its race also.

they have their own community where they share the race of the chicken, they have their own market which these rosters are traded and traveled from island to island. they do have facebook groups for the raisers treating the animals as pets.

[Sithara007]

well we eat them, i personally had ate some of these rooster when they die in the fight. but that was years ago.
most raiser of these cock fighters are sentimental that if their cock fighter won several times like a champ, they save its race and keep it alive even if its wounded severely. and then reproduce its race also.

they have their own community where they share the race of the chicken, they have their own market which these rosters are traded and traveled from island to island. they do have facebook groups for the raisers treating the animals as pets.

Cock fighting actually preserves rare and local breeds of chicken. In today's world, poultry farms prefer a few breeds that give good muscle growth in short amount of time. And this has led to extinction of several local breeds. But such poultry breeds are not suitable for cock fight. And for this purpose, the players preserve local sub-species. Without activities such as cock fighting, several local breeds would be extinct by now. Activists always look at one side of the picture. They fail to notice the benefits that indigenous activities such as cock fighting bring.

[btc78]

But we must not let them continue to play cockfighting because it involves the lives of animals.

Are you really serious about that?

Can we apply that argument to poultry chickens that were every day killed for human consumption? Or you will say that it's another story because people need to eat every day regardless if it's a chicken or not?

I don't understand why you are against cockfighting because it involves the "lives" of animals but enjoys eating a chicken meal.

There's no Science or Math there.

That's different buddy. Poultry chickens that are killed for human consumption every day are those that are reared and used for consumption. But a chicken to play cockfighting will become a carcass when the chicken dies, although you can still eat it. It's completely different.

Maybe you enjoy playing cockfighting, and there is a different feeling when you see the cocks betting, getting injured, and some even dying in the middle of the match. But I don't, and go ahead if you like it.

The main point here is that why need to use them for Betting and fun when chicken are provided for meal ? I mean instead of using them to make us enjoy in gambling there are so much to choose from that does not involve any lives, this may sounds corny but I think like Dog fight and other form of animal fighting ? these animals needs to be treated fair , kill them to fed us and that is OK but using them for fun is far different to what needs to be.

[Sithara007]

The main point here is that why need to use them for Betting and fun when chicken are provided for meal ? I mean instead of using them to make us enjoy in gambling there are so much to choose from that does not involve any lives, this may sounds corny but I think like Dog fight and other form of animal fighting ? these animals needs to be treated fair , kill them to fed us and that is OK but using them for fun is far different to what needs to be.

How can you make the distinction? You may having the opinion that killing these animals for food is OK. But someone else maybe against that idea. How you are going to react if someone tells you that you should become vegetarian, because you are not allowed to kill animals for food? Let's respect everyone's individual freedom. If you are allowed to kill animals for food, others are also allowed to kill animals for the purpose of entertainment. The most important thing here is to refrain from imposing a false sense of morality over others.

[BobK71]

But we must not let them continue to play cockfighting because it involves the lives of animals.

Are you really serious about that?

Can we apply that argument to poultry chickens that were every day killed for human consumption? Or you will say that it's another story because people need to eat every day regardless if it's a chicken or not?

I don't understand why you are against cockfighting because it involves the "lives" of animals but enjoys eating a chicken meal.

There's no Science or Math there.

That's different buddy. Poultry chickens that are killed for human consumption every day are those that are reared and used for consumption. But a chicken to play cockfighting will become a carcass when the chicken dies, although you can still eat it. It's completely different.

Maybe you enjoy playing cockfighting, and there is a different feeling when you see the cocks betting, getting injured, and some even dying in the middle of the match. But I don't, and go ahead if you like it.

The main point here is that why need to use them for Betting and fun when chicken are provided for meal ? I mean instead of using them to make us enjoy in gambling there are so much to choose from that does not involve any lives, this may sounds corny but I think like Dog fight and other form of animal fighting ? these animals needs to be treated fair , kill them to fed us and that is OK but using them for fun is far different to what needs to be.

It would have been somewhat more acceptable if it had been organized by ferocious animals instead of cockfighting. But the animals by which they are organized are called domestic animals. As a result, if you gamble by harming those animals, there should be more pain than pleasure. Although those who have already involved themselves in such activities may have rejected the affection and love they have for the animals. Moreover, Animal Resources Department will never condone such activities.

[maydna]

But we must not let them continue to play cockfighting because it involves the lives of animals.

Are you really serious about that?

Can we apply that argument to poultry chickens that were every day killed for human consumption? Or you will say that it's another story because people need to eat every day regardless if it's a chicken or not?

I don't understand why you are against cockfighting because it involves the "lives" of animals but enjoys eating a chicken meal.

There's no Science or Math there.

That's different buddy. Poultry chickens that are killed for human consumption every day are those that are reared and used for consumption. But a chicken to play cockfighting will become a carcass when the chicken dies, although you can still eat it. It's completely different.

Maybe you enjoy playing cockfighting, and there is a different feeling when you see the cocks betting, getting injured, and some even dying in the middle of the match. But I don't, and go ahead if you like it.

well we eat them, i personally had ate some of these rooster when they die in the fight. but that was years ago.
most raiser of these cock fighters are sentimental that if their cock fighter won several times like a champ, they save its race and keep it alive even if its wounded severely. and then reproduce its race also.

they have their own community where they share the race of the chicken, they have their own market which these rosters are traded and traveled from island to island. they do have facebook groups for the raisers treating the animals as pets.

It may be like that. But today's era is different from the previous decades, where not many people care about the lives of everyone who lives. Those living in today's world think that betting using animals is ridiculous and should be banned. But the reality is that there are still several places in remote areas that hold this cockfighting bet, and it turns out that it can attract the attention of the people around the place. And with social media, the group can have its own community as you said.

But we must not let them continue to play cockfighting because it involves the lives of animals.

Are you really serious about that?

Can we apply that argument to poultry chickens that were every day killed for human consumption? Or you will say that it's another story because people need to eat every day regardless if it's a chicken or not?

I don't understand why you are against cockfighting because it involves the "lives" of animals but enjoys eating a chicken meal.

There's no Science or Math there.

That's different buddy. Poultry chickens that are killed for human consumption every day are those that are reared and used for consumption. But a chicken to play cockfighting will become a carcass when the chicken dies, although you can still eat it. It's completely different.

Maybe you enjoy playing cockfighting, and there is a different feeling when you see the cocks betting, getting injured, and some even dying in the middle of the match. But I don't, and go ahead if you like it.

The main point here is that why need to use them for Betting and fun when chicken are provided for meal ? I mean instead of using them to make us enjoy in gambling there are so much to choose from that does not involve any lives, this may sounds corny but I think like Dog fight and other form of animal fighting ? these animals needs to be treated fair , kill them to fed us and that is OK but using them for fun is far different to what needs to be.

Well, everyone's opinion will certainly vary, and I respect that. If I don't like it, but they do, that's up to them. And maybe this cockfighting bet will still exist in several other countries because this is traditional gambling where there are still many people who enjoy it and even have lots of cocks ready to fight to defeat all their enemies.

[AicecreaME]

It would have been somewhat more acceptable if it had been organized by ferocious animals instead of cockfighting. But the animals by which they are organized are called domestic animals. As a result, if you gamble by harming those animals, there should be more pain than pleasure. Although those who have already involved themselves in such activities may have rejected the affection and love they have for the animals. Moreover, Animal Resources Department will never condone such activities.

I don't think its more acceptable if the animals that are fighting with one another because humans made them do so were the cruel ones. This is because despite being violent in nature, they are still living things that deserve to live peacefully in their natural habitat. Being subjected to fighting forcefully just for the sake of entertainment and betting isn't justifiable. It's unhumane. These kinds of cruelty should be stopped because animals aren't toys to be played with.

Human aren't the only ones who feel pain and suffering. Animals can feel those too. For sure if you were on the shoes of those game cocks and other animals that are required to fight for survival, you wouldn't feel amused.

[Betwrong]

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Not sure about other countries but looking on that perspective, the chance that whatever countries still facilitating this gambling might continue to bring this business.

The revenue which is written is a basis alone and not the actual amount. There are sides betting which
is no longer count plus the illegal places where this gambling can be performed.

With that number, involvement of some government officials is really anticipated, money
will move them since it's an easy side income for them.

I see. In that case Cock fight game will never be banned in countries with corrupt governments, no matter how much animal rights activists will be protesting. I'm no vegetarian myself, so I don't have the right to be that judgmental about the whole thing, but I would never bet on one animal to be killed by another. Even though I like to eat meat, I think it's over the edge.

[stadus]

~

Not sure about other countries but looking on that perspective, the chance that whatever countries still facilitating this gambling might continue to bring this business.

The revenue which is written is a basis alone and not the actual amount. There are sides betting which
is no longer count plus the illegal places where this gambling can be performed.

With that number, involvement of some government officials is really anticipated, money
will move them since it's an easy side income for them.

I see. In that case Cock fight game will never be banned in countries with corrupt governments, no matter how much animal rights activists will be protesting. I'm no vegetarian myself, so I don't have the right to be that judgmental about the whole thing, but I would never bet on one animal to be killed by another. Even though I like to eat meat, I think it's over the edge.

That said, let's just respect each other despite the difference of our beliefs regarding animal cruelty. We already have our own guilt besides from these gambling which includes animals, and that is we're as much guilty also, but the difference is just it's not from cockfighting or any gambling that involves animals. Protesting against these culture is really pointless because the governments and other top personalities are riding with these kind of industry.

[o48o]

Then what's your solution to stop all this mess? Can you do something to stop the cultural activities that are legal in a country?
Don't act like that as in a country where cock fight is legal and many people support it, it will just continue.
Rather than stress yourself on how to stop it, you can just easily and simply ignore it.

You get same advice from nearly any country that has any injustices to correct, they could be injustice against humans or other animals. And that is to talk about it. Talk about it with your representatives, keep the conversation alive. Governments allowing this get more heat and incentives to act. Also organized boycots are one way to make a difference, to make them listen.

These things move very slowly. And it's up to all of us. More people will join, faster changes happen.

[capedbaldy]

That said, let's just respect each other despite the difference of our beliefs regarding animal cruelty. We already have our own guilt besides from these gambling which includes animals, and that is we're as much guilty also, but the difference is just it's not from cockfighting or any gambling that involves animals. Protesting against these culture is really pointless because the governments and other top personalities are riding with these kind of industry.

We certainly won't agree to animal cruelty but we don't know the origin of other cultures so we have to respect it, I've even seen a cockfighting game shown on television but I won't mention the country, I feel sorry for the animal but what can do if the game of cockfighting has been legalized in that country and even published on television. But I hope that cockfighting is not publicized and broadcast in a limited way because other countries don't deserve to watch the event.

[herurist]

It would have been somewhat more acceptable if it had been organized by ferocious animals instead of cockfighting. But the animals by which they are organized are called domestic animals. As a result, if you gamble by harming those animals, there should be more pain than pleasure. Although those who have already involved themselves in such activities may have rejected the affection and love they have for the animals. Moreover, Animal Resources Department will never condone such activities.

I don't think its more acceptable if the animals that are fighting with one another because humans made them do so were the cruel ones. This is because despite being violent in nature, they are still living things that deserve to live peacefully in their natural habitat. Being subjected to fighting forcefully just for the sake of entertainment and betting isn't justifiable. It's unhumane. These kinds of cruelty should be stopped because animals aren't toys to be played with.

Human aren't the only ones who feel pain and suffering. Animals can feel those too. For sure if you were on the shoes of those game cocks and other animals that are required to fight for survival, you wouldn't feel amused.

It just depends on everyone's views, it seems because there will definitely be those who agree and some who don't about this, especially for animal lovers who will indeed seem like torture by fighting chickens, but on the other hand, in my area, things like this are even entertainment. It has been around for a long time before it was even used as a gambling venue. because sometimes there are a number of things that can become culture or tradition which is always done when there are certain celebrations.

[dunfida]

It would have been somewhat more acceptable if it had been organized by ferocious animals instead of cockfighting. But the animals by which they are organized are called domestic animals. As a result, if you gamble by harming those animals, there should be more pain than pleasure. Although those who have already involved themselves in such activities may have rejected the affection and love they have for the animals. Moreover, Animal Resources Department will never condone such activities.

I don't think its more acceptable if the animals that are fighting with one another because humans made them do so were the cruel ones. This is because despite being violent in nature, they are still living things that deserve to live peacefully in their natural habitat. Being subjected to fighting forcefully just for the sake of entertainment and betting isn't justifiable. It's unhumane. These kinds of cruelty should be stopped because animals aren't toys to be played with.

Human aren't the only ones who feel pain and suffering. Animals can feel those too. For sure if you were on the shoes of those game cocks and other animals that are required to fight for survival, you wouldn't feel amused.

It just depends on everyone's views, it seems because there will definitely be those who agree and some who don't about this, especially for animal lovers who will indeed seem like torture by fighting chickens, but on the other hand, in my area, things like this are even entertainment. It has been around for a long time before it was even used as a gambling venue. because sometimes there are a number of things that can become culture or tradition which is always done when there are certain celebrations.

And we know that not all corners or places on the world would really be agreeing or do look for these things to be good but rather they would really be that too mindful when it comes to animal cruelty.There are indeed 

places which is totally against with animal cruelty and on the time that they do seeing off these things then they are starting to disgust or make out some criticisms about it but its true that this one
is really that on cultural side where there are countries had really get used to with these kind of activities or gambling ways on which using up some cock to fight for
the sake of entertainment + make out some betting, just let them be.

[Silberman]

It would have been somewhat more acceptable if it had been organized by ferocious animals instead of cockfighting. But the animals by which they are organized are called domestic animals. As a result, if you gamble by harming those animals, there should be more pain than pleasure. Although those who have already involved themselves in such activities may have rejected the affection and love they have for the animals. Moreover, Animal Resources Department will never condone such activities.

I don't think its more acceptable if the animals that are fighting with one another because humans made them do so were the cruel ones. This is because despite being violent in nature, they are still living things that deserve to live peacefully in their natural habitat. Being subjected to fighting forcefully just for the sake of entertainment and betting isn't justifiable. It's unhumane. These kinds of cruelty should be stopped because animals aren't toys to be played with.

Human aren't the only ones who feel pain and suffering. Animals can feel those too. For sure if you were on the shoes of those game cocks and other animals that are required to fight for survival, you wouldn't feel amused.

It just depends on everyone's views, it seems because there will definitely be those who agree and some who don't about this, especially for animal lovers who will indeed seem like torture by fighting chickens, but on the other hand, in my area, things like this are even entertainment. It has been around for a long time before it was even used as a gambling venue. because sometimes there are a number of things that can become culture or tradition which is always done when there are certain celebrations.

Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary.

[Sithara007]

Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary.

Yes. Cultural differences will be there. And therefore we need to refrain from imposing our views on others and respect their personal freedom. Irony dies a thousand deaths when someone sitting in the US or the EU wants to lecture on someone else who is part of a tribal community in Indonesia or Vietnam regarding animal cruelty. These people are practicing their customs for many thousands of years, suddenly some outsiders want them to stop doing that. And the same people who lecture them have no problem with animal cruelty that is going on in the mega corporate agrobusinesses in US/EU.

[ethereumhunter]

Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary.

Yes. Cultural differences will be there. And therefore we need to refrain from imposing our views on others and respect their personal freedom. Irony dies a thousand deaths when someone sitting in the US or the EU wants to lecture on someone else who is part of a tribal community in Indonesia or Vietnam regarding animal cruelty. These people are practicing their customs for many thousands of years, suddenly some outsiders want them to stop doing that. And the same people who lecture them have no problem with animal cruelty that is going on in the mega corporate agrobusinesses in US/EU.

I agree that there will be cultural differences because if we look at Asian countries, this cockfight is still frequently contested. This is difficult to stop because this tradition has existed since ancient times. And that will depend on each person who gambles because we also cannot impose our will on those still playing cockfighting, especially if most of the population there really likes playing cockfighting. We could get into trouble if we keep asking them not to play cockfighting and even if the government asks them to stop, it won't be easy either.

[AicecreaME]

Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary.

Yes. Cultural differences will be there. And therefore we need to refrain from imposing our views on others and respect their personal freedom. Irony dies a thousand deaths when someone sitting in the US or the EU wants to lecture on someone else who is part of a tribal community in Indonesia or Vietnam regarding animal cruelty. These people are practicing their customs for many thousands of years, suddenly some outsiders want them to stop doing that. And the same people who lecture them have no problem with animal cruelty that is going on in the mega corporate agrobusinesses in US/EU.

I agree that there will be cultural differences because if we look at Asian countries, this cockfight is still frequently contested. This is difficult to stop because this tradition has existed since ancient times. And that will depend on each person who gambles because we also cannot impose our will on those still playing cockfighting, especially if most of the population there really likes playing cockfighting. We could get into trouble if we keep asking them not to play cockfighting and even if the government asks them to stop, it won't be easy either.

Cultural differences really plays a part in cockfighting in various countries that allow this kind of gambling. Each countries have different traditions and culture which we can't really change, thus, we can't really force them to abandon their cockfighting habits most especially if their government permits this in their locality.

Although for sure there are types of organizations that fight against their cruel acts on animals. What we can do is to just advocate it if it's our principles as well and avoid engaging in it since we can't really impose our beliefs and idealogies to others.

[Pamadar]

Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary.

Yes. Cultural differences will be there. And therefore we need to refrain from imposing our views on others and respect their personal freedom. Irony dies a thousand deaths when someone sitting in the US or the EU wants to lecture on someone else who is part of a tribal community in Indonesia or Vietnam regarding animal cruelty. These people are practicing their customs for many thousands of years, suddenly some outsiders want them to stop doing that. And the same people who lecture them have no problem with animal cruelty that is going on in the mega corporate agrobusinesses in US/EU.

I agree that there will be cultural differences because if we look at Asian countries, this cockfight is still frequently contested. This is difficult to stop because this tradition has existed since ancient times. And that will depend on each person who gambles because we also cannot impose our will on those still playing cockfighting, especially if most of the population there really likes playing cockfighting. We could get into trouble if we keep asking them not to play cockfighting and even if the government asks them to stop, it won't be easy either.

To add up, even there's already a law against it, in some parts of third country places, traditions indeed are really hard to stop, people who are involved with cockfighting will continue to bring the fight illegally.

Knowing gamblers, they will find ways as both enjoyment and gambling is being catered
with each cockfighting activities are being held, either in a legal arena or even in a small
venue where illegal cockfighting is being catered.

[BitcoinPanther]

But we must not let them continue to play cockfighting because it involves the lives of animals.

Are you really serious about that?

Can we apply that argument to poultry chickens that were every day killed for human consumption? Or you will say that it's another story because people need to eat every day regardless if it's a chicken or not?

I don't understand why you are against cockfighting because it involves the "lives" of animals but enjoys eating a chicken meal.

There's no Science or Math there.

There is a huge difference between cockfighting and poultry chickens.  Poultry chickens are butchered because they are for human sustainability, they are used for human consumption while cockfighting is purely used for entertainment.  They both involved the lives of animals but the means of use is very different.  Besides slaughtered chicken has quick death while cocks used in cockfighting have to undergo a longer gruesome death.

There is actually a science there to explain why cockfighting is frowned upon while butchering poultry chicken is tolerated.  And there is a math that shows people who supports cockfighting and who don't. 

But all in all, I think it depends on the people's preference but what makes the difference between how inhuman both cockfighting and chicken slaughter is being discussed in this thread.

[minime0105]

The main point here is that why need to use them for Betting and fun when chicken are provided for meal ? I mean instead of using them to make us enjoy in gambling there are so much to choose from that does not involve any lives, this may sounds corny but I think like Dog fight and other form of animal fighting ? these animals needs to be treated fair , kill them to fed us and that is OK but using them for fun is far different to what needs to be.

How can you make the distinction? You may having the opinion that killing these animals for food is OK. But someone else maybe against that idea. How you are going to react if someone tells you that you should become vegetarian, because you are not allowed to kill animals for food? Let's respect everyone's individual freedom. If you are allowed to kill animals for food, others are also allowed to kill animals for the purpose of entertainment. The most important thing here is to refrain from imposing a false sense of morality over others.

Actually what you said right now is task of every other person to make it's conclusion and personal decision on what you can do with youyown animal, depending on what you have in mind, because from my understanding i believe that some people have theie own method or kind of involving also engaging yourself into something else. So i think that anyone that have something knows it's functions ans it depends on the individual.

[noormcs5]

But we must not let them continue to play cockfighting because it involves the lives of animals.

Are you really serious about that?

Can we apply that argument to poultry chickens that were every day killed for human consumption? Or you will say that it's another story because people need to eat every day regardless if it's a chicken or not?

I don't understand why you are against cockfighting because it involves the "lives" of animals but enjoys eating a chicken meal.

There's no Science or Math there.

That's different buddy. Poultry chickens that are killed for human consumption every day are those that are reared and used for consumption. But a chicken to play cockfighting will become a carcass when the chicken dies, although you can still eat it. It's completely different.

Maybe you enjoy playing cockfighting, and there is a different feeling when you see the cocks betting, getting injured, and some even dying in the middle of the match. But I don't, and go ahead if you like it.

The main point here is that why need to use them for Betting and fun when chicken are provided for meal ? I mean instead of using them to make us enjoy in gambling there are so much to choose from that does not involve any lives, this may sounds corny but I think like Dog fight and other form of animal fighting ? these animals needs to be treated fair , kill them to fed us and that is OK but using them for fun is far different to what needs to be.

I think we are mixing two different things here. Yeah, we get feed from these animals but that is something natural. Also, these animals are killed in a proper way and not tortured. In cock fight, the animals get injured, the blood is shed and they die in a manner that is too painful.

I don't think any normal human can bear to see such torture. Those who gamble and enjoy these tortures are not human in my point of view.

Consider for a moment that someone tortures us in this way. It's just not imaginable and beyond our thinking. 

[RILWAN]

Animal fighting is illegal in some region because using life animals such as a donkey or other game animals to gamble is seen as unfair treatment to those animals and one can get a jail term for that, that is why this type of games are not popular modern days gambling.

In my country animal right is in the law and one can not just use cock or any other animal to gamble at will.

[Wakate]

Animal fighting is illegal in some region because using life animals such as a donkey or other game animals to gamble is seen as unfair treatment to those animals and one can get a jail term for that, that is why this type of games are not popular modern days gambling.

In my country animal right is in the law and one can not just use cock or any other animal to gamble at will.

I have seen make animals and they are so interesting but the most painful part is that the animals involved suffer the injuries that is as a result of the fight. Cock fight is one of the funny animal fight I do see then when I was still tender. I can't still point out what usually cause their fight but suddenly, we could see two cocks fighting for no reason but I don't think that may be as a result their sex mate.
One of the most severe fight I had seen was two dogs fighting because of meal which was very obvious and serious.

[Quidat]

Animal fighting is illegal in some region because using life animals such as a donkey or other game animals to gamble is seen as unfair treatment to those animals and one can get a jail term for that, that is why this type of games are not popular modern days gambling.

In my country animal right is in the law and one can not just use cock or any other animal to gamble at will.

I have seen make animals and they are so interesting but the most painful part is that the animals involved suffer the injuries that is as a result of the fight. Cock fight is one of the funny animal fight I do see then when I was still tender. I can't still point out what usually cause their fight but suddenly, we could see two cocks fighting for no reason but I don't think that may be as a result their sex mate.
One of the most severe fight I had seen was two dogs fighting because of meal which was very obvious and serious.

Cockfight do involved on fighting against other male rooster which turns out that they are really that aggressive into each other.They wont really be fighting just because of that sex mate or something
in  correlation because it is really a male to male most of the time even on other animal betting that we do able to see.They cant just mixed up and make fights with male-to-female
which it would be understandable on that point.If people do find out that betting on these animal fights turns out to be entertaining then its their own preference.
Each country does have their own take and laws about this manner.

[lalabotax]

I have seen make animals and they are so interesting but the most painful part is that the animals involved suffer the injuries that is as a result of the fight. Cock fight is one of the funny animal fight I do see then when I was still tender. 

I don't know, but I never think that that kind of cock fighting is interesting. It is always sad to know they are forced to fight against it. Moreover, they suffer some injuries, but the people keep applauding and talking to fight. I know that most of the cocks are also trained and they get special treatment from the owners. But, it is also sad to know their force. That is why in many countries, cock fighting is really forbidden and illegal. Many raids are done due to this cock fighting in my area.

[harizen]

Yeah, we get feed from these animals but that is something natural. Also, these animals are killed in a proper way and not tortured. In cock fight, the animals get injured, the blood is shed and they die in a manner that is too painful.

Hey, calling that a natural way why chickens should die because of human consumption will trigger the vegetarians haha.

Might be different views but since cockfighting is a big gambling industry, it won't really stop.

Aside from that, if that operation is legal and all procedures are strictly being followed, we just have to live with that or ignore it. Cockfighting operations also provide several jobs for some people. Again, if anyone sees that as unpleasant, simply ignored it.

[ethereumhunter]

Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary.

Yes. Cultural differences will be there. And therefore we need to refrain from imposing our views on others and respect their personal freedom. Irony dies a thousand deaths when someone sitting in the US or the EU wants to lecture on someone else who is part of a tribal community in Indonesia or Vietnam regarding animal cruelty. These people are practicing their customs for many thousands of years, suddenly some outsiders want them to stop doing that. And the same people who lecture them have no problem with animal cruelty that is going on in the mega corporate agrobusinesses in US/EU.

I agree that there will be cultural differences because if we look at Asian countries, this cockfight is still frequently contested. This is difficult to stop because this tradition has existed since ancient times. And that will depend on each person who gambles because we also cannot impose our will on those still playing cockfighting, especially if most of the population there really likes playing cockfighting. We could get into trouble if we keep asking them not to play cockfighting and even if the government asks them to stop, it won't be easy either.

Cultural differences really plays a part in cockfighting in various countries that allow this kind of gambling. Each countries have different traditions and culture which we can't really change, thus, we can't really force them to abandon their cockfighting habits most especially if their government permits this in their locality.

Although for sure there are types of organizations that fight against their cruel acts on animals. What we can do is to just advocate it if it's our principles as well and avoid engaging in it since we can't really impose our beliefs and idealogies to others.

Right. That is why there are lots of traditional gambling in various countries that are still developing today. On the one hand, people want to preserve cockfighting, which may become an identity in a country and that is their tradition and culture. If it is removed, they may lose their identity and forget the traditional games passed down by their ancestors.

And if that doesn't suit us, we don't need to watch the cockfight and choose to use other methods to play gambling. We also can't force them to stop playing cockfighting.

Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary.

Yes. Cultural differences will be there. And therefore we need to refrain from imposing our views on others and respect their personal freedom. Irony dies a thousand deaths when someone sitting in the US or the EU wants to lecture on someone else who is part of a tribal community in Indonesia or Vietnam regarding animal cruelty. These people are practicing their customs for many thousands of years, suddenly some outsiders want them to stop doing that. And the same people who lecture them have no problem with animal cruelty that is going on in the mega corporate agrobusinesses in US/EU.

I agree that there will be cultural differences because if we look at Asian countries, this cockfight is still frequently contested. This is difficult to stop because this tradition has existed since ancient times. And that will depend on each person who gambles because we also cannot impose our will on those still playing cockfighting, especially if most of the population there really likes playing cockfighting. We could get into trouble if we keep asking them not to play cockfighting and even if the government asks them to stop, it won't be easy either.

To add up, even there's already a law against it, in some parts of third country places, traditions indeed are really hard to stop, people who are involved with cockfighting will continue to bring the fight illegally.

Knowing gamblers, they will find ways as both enjoyment and gambling is being catered
with each cockfighting activities are being held, either in a legal arena or even in a small
venue where illegal cockfighting is being catered.

The law already exists and the authorities have intensively carried out operations but there are still cockfighting practices in many places and most of the fights are illegal. That's because they don't care about the laws that have been made. Those who play cockfighting still come to gambling and make their bets. This also attracts the attention of many people to see the fight. This is what keeps cockfighting going, even in a hidden place. The gamblers seemed to be able to hold the cockfighting bet so they could keep doing it and even invite lots of people to come and bet.

[Sithara007]

Hey, calling that a natural way why chickens should die because of human consumption will trigger the vegetarians haha.

Might be different views but since cockfighting is a big gambling industry, it won't really stop.

Aside from that, if that operation is legal and all procedures are strictly being followed, we just have to live with that or ignore it. Cockfighting operations also provide several jobs for some people. Again, if anyone sees that as unpleasant, simply ignored it.

Here is my take on it: Every year, billions (if not trillions) of chickens are being killed to feed the people. And how many get killed in cock-fighting championships? At the most a few thousands? We can't even compare the numbers. And secondly, we can't ignore the benefits from cock fighting, such as the preservation of rare breeds by the participants. And finally, cock fighting is a part of the culture and generates jobs and revenue for the rural population in regions where it is being practiced. All these benefits can't be swept under the carpet.

[Pamadar]

Hey, calling that a natural way why chickens should die because of human consumption will trigger the vegetarians haha.

Might be different views but since cockfighting is a big gambling industry, it won't really stop.

Aside from that, if that operation is legal and all procedures are strictly being followed, we just have to live with that or ignore it. Cockfighting operations also provide several jobs for some people. Again, if anyone sees that as unpleasant, simply ignored it.

Here is my take on it: Every year, billions (if not trillions) of chickens are being killed to feed the people. And how many get killed in cock-fighting championships? At the most a few thousands? We can't even compare the numbers. And secondly, we can't ignore the benefits from cock fighting, such as the preservation of rare breeds by the participants. And finally, cock fighting is a part of the culture and generates jobs and revenue for the rural population in regions where it is being practiced. All these benefits can't be swept under the carpet.

Oh well, there's always opinions and factors that people can raise about this concern. I'm sure we will hear another opinions regarding to your statement and it will either contest or be agreed by other readers.

Either legal or illegal, it's tough to stop those who love betting using this kind of gambling.
it's a traditional gambling from other side of third world countries.

[Strongkored]

Animal fighting is illegal in some region because using life animals such as a donkey or other game animals to gamble is seen as unfair treatment to those animals and one can get a jail term for that, that is why this type of games are not popular modern days gambling.

In my country animal right is in the law and one can not just use cock or any other animal to gamble at will.

Not all countries have laws on animal protection except for endangered animals which are on the verge of extinction, which is why gambling using animals always exists even though it is done in secret not because of regulations regarding animal protection but rather gambling laws, but even if it is done in secret it is difficult to eradicate because the organizers will always have a way to re-hold the event because they will be able to make a lot of money they will try to keep holding it

[madnessteat]

^

Cockfighting used to be widespread in many countries because people demanded entertainment, which was not as plentiful as it is today, and travelers brought home many entertainments that were held hundreds of thousands of kilometers away from home. At one period even cockfighting was held in my country, but then this tradition was eradicated by the authorities.

So it is possible to eradicate almost everything - if only one had the desire.

[michellee]

Animal fighting is illegal in some region because using life animals such as a donkey or other game animals to gamble is seen as unfair treatment to those animals and one can get a jail term for that, that is why this type of games are not popular modern days gambling.

In my country animal right is in the law and one can not just use cock or any other animal to gamble at will.

Not all countries have laws on animal protection except for endangered animals which are on the verge of extinction, which is why gambling using animals always exists even though it is done in secret not because of regulations regarding animal protection but rather gambling laws, but even if it is done in secret it is difficult to eradicate because the organizers will always have a way to re-hold the event because they will be able to make a lot of money they will try to keep holding it

And even though there are laws that regulate animal protection, cockfighting still exists. It's like hunting for wild animals in the wild, which is still being carried out by a group of people and even if the authorities try to chase them, it won't be easy either because it looks like someone is protecting those people. And when there is no law regarding protecting these animals, people freely do cockfights and even in open places that will attract people's attention to see them. And the organizers will make a lot of money because an event like that works.

[klidex]

Animal fighting is illegal in some region because using life animals such as a donkey or other game animals to gamble is seen as unfair treatment to those animals and one can get a jail term for that, that is why this type of games are not popular modern days gambling.

In my country animal right is in the law and one can not just use cock or any other animal to gamble at will.

Not all countries have laws on animal protection except for endangered animals which are on the verge of extinction, which is why gambling using animals always exists even though it is done in secret not because of regulations regarding animal protection but rather gambling laws, but even if it is done in secret it is difficult to eradicate because the organizers will always have a way to re-hold the event because they will be able to make a lot of money they will try to keep holding it

Yes, just like in the country where I live, there are still many traditions of cockfighting gambling and it is indeed prohibited by the government because there is a law against gambling in any form.
However, there are many cockfighting gambling places that are guaranteed to be safe.
From the organizers themselves, they provide taxes to influential or authorized agencies to ensure this security and so that certain government Parliaments do not know about it.
Cockfighting gambling activities are actually used by unscrupulous government officials to profit solely from the tax yields provided by the organizers.

[348Judah]

I want to believe many cocks ised for the gambling purpose will serve right for this Christmas season as Xmas chickens  this also tells us about various use of cocks on different occasions and serving different purpose, cocks have been seen as one of the common livestocks that can be easily seen within the neighborhood with a number of its species spread across thw world, this great and unique category in their species makes it more suitable for gambling after one would have selected the best breeds to ise for cock fighting games for gambling purposes.

[Sithara007]

I want to believe many cocks ised for the gambling purpose will serve right for this Christmas season as Xmas chickens   this also tells us about various use of cocks on different occasions and serving different purpose, cocks have been seen as one of the common livestocks that can be easily seen within the neighborhood with a number of its species spread across thw world, this great and unique category in their species makes it more suitable for gambling after one would have selected the best breeds to ise for cock fighting games for gambling purposes.

Cocks reared for poultry purpose are not the ones being used for cock-fight. Broiler chicken are not suitable for this purpose, as they gain weight very rapidly without much muscle growth. That is the reason why I say that cock fighting helps in preserving rare breeds of birds. In my area, the most common breeds that are used for fighting are - Albany, Kelso, Roundhead, Whitehackle, Brown Red and Asil. These breeds face extinction because they are not preferred by the poultry industry and cockfighting helps in their preservation. 

[gunhell16]

I want to believe many cocks ised for the gambling purpose will serve right for this Christmas season as Xmas chickens   this also tells us about various use of cocks on different occasions and serving different purpose, cocks have been seen as one of the common livestocks that can be easily seen within the neighborhood with a number of its species spread across thw world, this great and unique category in their species makes it more suitable for gambling after one would have selected the best breeds to ise for cock fighting games for gambling purposes.

Most of the male chickens are used as fodder in the field of gambling, then the hens or native chickens are destined to be part of people's business in their lives.

These male chicken that are fought in the cockpit are used for betting and making sure that before the fight between two roosters is over, one of them will die or become a dish that whoever holds it or owns it, it's that simple.

[Peanutswar]

I want to believe many cocks ised for the gambling purpose will serve right for this Christmas season as Xmas chickens   this also tells us about various use of cocks on different occasions and serving different purpose, cocks have been seen as one of the common livestocks that can be easily seen within the neighborhood with a number of its species spread across thw world, this great and unique category in their species makes it more suitable for gambling after one would have selected the best breeds to ise for cock fighting games for gambling purposes.

Cocks reared for poultry purpose are not the ones being used for cock-fight. Broiler chicken are not suitable for this purpose, as they gain weight very rapidly without much muscle growth. That is the reason why I say that cock fighting helps in preserving rare breeds of birds. In my area, the most common breeds that are used for fighting are - Albany, Kelso, Roundhead, Whitehackle, Brown Red and Asil. These breeds face extinction because they are not preferred by the poultry industry and cockfighting helps in their preservation. 

Some of the people right here are still trying to continue to play and of course, they want to urge before having a Christmas and new year they make a good win some of the people playing cockfights most likely in my country, some of them are using those roosters legs as their trophy and if the rooster lose the game they will give it to the winner of course they cant do anything with the dead fighter, for sure they will still playing have few more days left before the year ends.

[goinmerry]

OP, the discussion here won't stop because we have our own preferences here. We can't just force our own beliefs on other people.

The subject here is the same as those topics that won't end up because of pride and Principle.

Better if the thread will be considered now locking. It will lead to nowhere and I think it already serves its purpose.

[og kush420]

OP, the discussion here won't stop because we have our own preferences here. We can't just force our own beliefs on other people.

The subject here is the same as those topics that won't end up because of pride and Principle.

Better if the thread will be considered now locking. It will lead to nowhere and I think it already serves its purpose.

Its okie to discuss - however in our country cock fighting is now only be done in the villages.
May feudal lords also keep the expensive pets - But this is now going out of the fashion

[noormcs5]

Hey, calling that a natural way why chickens should die because of human consumption will trigger the vegetarians haha.

Might be different views but since cockfighting is a big gambling industry, it won't really stop.

Aside from that, if that operation is legal and all procedures are strictly being followed, we just have to live with that or ignore it. Cockfighting operations also provide several jobs for some people. Again, if anyone sees that as unpleasant, simply ignored it.

Here is my take on it: Every year, billions (if not trillions) of chickens are being killed to feed the people. And how many get killed in cock-fighting championships? At the most a few thousands? We can't even compare the numbers. And secondly, we can't ignore the benefits from cock fighting, such as the preservation of rare breeds by the participants. And finally, cock fighting is a part of the culture and generates jobs and revenue for the rural population in regions where it is being practiced. All these benefits can't be swept under the carpet.

How sad is it to earn your living and money from the cruel killing of the cock fights? I do not think anyone can sleep properly if they saw how cock fighting in being done and here we are talking about earning from this business whether is directly related to conducting this fight or indirectly through gambling on these cock fighting matches.

By the way, if cock fighting was a part of culture and popular among the masses, it would not be banned by most governments. We only see this game being played in certain backward areas and modern people have already abandoned this sports.

[Chato1977]

this is like in gladiator times when people loves to bet for the life of others .
aren't we contented in all forms of gambling that we have existed ? there are even thousand kind of game worldwide then why need to put the cocks in the arena and let them die ?
this is not tolerable for me , i rather choose to gamble all day in online or live casino than betting in these animals.

[wxa7115]

^

Cockfighting used to be widespread in many countries because people demanded entertainment, which was not as plentiful as it is today, and travelers brought home many entertainments that were held hundreds of thousands of kilometers away from home. At one period even cockfighting was held in my country, but then this tradition was eradicated by the authorities.

So it is possible to eradicate almost everything - if only one had the desire.

It is not as simple, as long as there is demand then there are going to be people that will make the effort to supply what people want.

And what better example than the drug war, more than 100 years have passed with governments trying to destroy the demand for drugs, and while billions have been spent and millions of people have been killed or arrested you can still get those substances almost anywhere around the world, and while cock fighting does not have such a huge demand, there is enough of it to guarantee that we will not see it disappear during our lifetimes.

[RILWAN]

Animals' fight is no longer attractive lately as modern games have replaced real life animal games as that could be harmful to the animals, I understand the game you are talking about, but then it has been long since I saw people playing such games on the street since duck fight is a physical fight so no online need which is why the traditional gaming network. The

[DoublerHunter]

Animals' fight is no longer attractive lately as modern games have replaced real life animal games as that could be harmful to the animals, I understand the game you are talking about, but then it has been long since I saw people playing such games on the street since duck fight is a physical fight so no online need which is why the traditional gaming network. The

^Cockfigting is very popular mostly in Southeast Asia, they have live cock fighting on it and those who did not watch personally can also place bets on an online gambling platform. It is really entertaining to see such a fight because I know there is no trick and it is not manipulated game that you doubted it.
If I were in a government position I will not allow this because considering this is an act of animal cruelty which is not a way to kill a rooster, they are animals that could be protected by us. However, don't make yourself complicated, there are too many games to gamble on online not cockfighting.

[Mate2237]

Animals' fight is no longer attractive lately as modern games have replaced real life animal games as that could be harmful to the animals, I understand the game you are talking about, but then it has been long since I saw people playing such games on the street since duck fight is a physical fight so no online need which is why the traditional gaming network. The

Exactly, animals fight for gambling is for old age method of gambling. Everything has changed so I don even think Asians are still doing it again. In those days when two Fowls were fighting the audience would even pin knight in the middle of the two Fowls and these two Fowls would be fighting for a very long period of time. Everything has been modernized. Physical casinos do not even moving market like the online platforms.

[Pamadar]

^

Cockfighting used to be widespread in many countries because people demanded entertainment, which was not as plentiful as it is today, and travelers brought home many entertainments that were held hundreds of thousands of kilometers away from home. At one period even cockfighting was held in my country, but then this tradition was eradicated by the authorities.

So it is possible to eradicate almost everything - if only one had the desire.

It is not as simple, as long as there is demand then there are going to be people that will make the effort to supply what people want.

And what better example than the drug war, more than 100 years have passed with governments trying to destroy the demand for drugs, and while billions have been spent and millions of people have been killed or arrested you can still get those substances almost anywhere around the world, and while cock fighting does not have such a huge demand, there is enough of it to guarantee that we will not see it disappear during our lifetimes.

Enough to survive for another decade since there is still culture that patronizing this gambling, cockfighting will survive and continue as long as there is money that can be generated.

Expect people who already involve to this gambling will add more people to play the same gamble,
with the word of mouth and how they deliver some alluring ideas they can bring gamblers to play
and from that beginning, it will start a new gambler who will gamble using this venue.

[michellee]

Animals' fight is no longer attractive lately as modern games have replaced real life animal games as that could be harmful to the animals, I understand the game you are talking about, but then it has been long since I saw people playing such games on the street since duck fight is a physical fight so no online need which is why the traditional gaming network. The

Exactly, animals fight for gambling is for old age method of gambling. Everything has changed so I don even think Asians are still doing it again. In those days when two Fowls were fighting the audience would even pin knight in the middle of the two Fowls and these two Fowls would be fighting for a very long period of time. Everything has been modernized. Physical casinos do not even moving market like the online platforms.

Even though it does not look interesting anymore, animal fighting still exists in some areas, especially those that still adhere to customs and traditions that have been passed down for a long time. They thought it was entertainment that could gather many people to see the fight in one place. You won't see it on the street but probably in places that only a few people know about especially those who gamble with animals. And this animal fight will not be found in physical casinos either because government regulations prohibit gambling using animals.

[Eternad]

Even though it does not look interesting anymore, animal fighting still exists in some areas, especially those that still adhere to customs and traditions that have been passed down for a long time. They thought it was entertainment that could gather many people to see the fight in one place. You won't see it on the street but probably in places that only a few people know about especially those who gamble with animals. And this animal fight will not be found in physical casinos either because government regulations prohibit gambling using animals.

Cock fighting is still very popular on my country even during pandemic that many organizer makes it online. There’s a lot of major tournaments on cock fight here different province with huge prize pool and bets every fight.

Besides cock fighting. Spider fight and pidgeon racing are the seasonal gambling games here that many locals really like to place there bets.

[danherbias07]

this is like in gladiator times when people loves to bet for the life of others .
aren't we contented in all forms of gambling that we have existed ? there are even thousand kind of game worldwide then why need to put the cocks in the arena and let them die ?
this is not tolerable for me , i rather choose to gamble all day in online or live casino than betting in these animals.

It's not like roosters are extinct. Most of them are taken care of by their owners who will use them in the pit to fight for their life.
If there's someone who will get hurt emotionally the most then it's the owner.
Imagine just how much time, effort, and money he spent on Class S foods, supplements, vitamins, and training the rooster so it would be at its best when the fight comes. It's all on the owner and then include the money he risked betting on his rooster. Most of the time, they would bet everything because they trusted their skills on raising it.

[yazher]

Cock fighting is still very popular on my country even during pandemic that many organizer makes it online. There’s a lot of major tournaments on cock fight here different province with huge prize pool and bets every fight.

Besides cock fighting. Spider fight and pidgeon racing are the seasonal gambling games here that many locals really like to place there bets.

They cannot stop it because how the government acts lightly whenever they caught some people doing it and some are hardly enough to get over and cure their addiction because simply they are only thinking of having some entertainment but in reality, they are having an addiction which is not really good because they are even using these innocent animals on their so-called fun times. In our place, they sometimes raid these kinds of gamblers but they cannot constantly do it straight for months, and the gamblers still doing it now.

[Betwrong]

~ Cocks reared for poultry purpose are not the ones being used for cock-fight. Broiler chicken are not suitable for this purpose, as they gain weight very rapidly without much muscle growth. That is the reason why I say that cock fighting helps in preserving rare breeds of birds. In my area, the most common breeds that are used for fighting are - Albany, Kelso, Roundhead, Whitehackle, Brown Red and Asil. These breeds face extinction because they are not preferred by the poultry industry and cockfighting helps in their preservation. 

Wow! I've never thought of this aspect of cockfighting. And some people are saying that this thread should have been locked already! Wouldn't it be better to have one endless thread for each topic than locking and opening new ones all the time?

Hopefully, in the future rare breeds of birds will be cared of just because they are rare, but for now it turns out that we should be thankful to cockfighting for keeping them from extinction.

[BobK71]

Even though it does not look interesting anymore, animal fighting still exists in some areas, especially those that still adhere to customs and traditions that have been passed down for a long time. They thought it was entertainment that could gather many people to see the fight in one place. You won't see it on the street but probably in places that only a few people know about especially those who gamble with animals. And this animal fight will not be found in physical casinos either because government regulations prohibit gambling using animals.

Cock fighting is still very popular on my country even during pandemic that many organizer makes it online. There’s a lot of major tournaments on cock fight here different province with huge prize pool and bets every fight.

Besides cock fighting. Spider fight and pidgeon racing are the seasonal gambling games here that many locals really like to place there bets.

Only a little change in humanity can save us from such a situation. Various games with animals are played in almost every part of the world. But I will definitely support those that are not harmful. As many of us know about bull riding games where no bull is harmed. Many people can enjoy a lot in this game. Although it is quite risky at times. But generally those animals are not harmed. Even if someone takes a bet here, no one will be harmed. But I think it is a crime to directly use two animals for fighting.

[harapan]

How sad is it to earn your living and money from the cruel killing of the cock fights? I do not think anyone can sleep properly if they saw how cock fighting in being done and here we are talking about earning from this business whether is directly related to conducting this fight or indirectly through gambling on these cock fighting matches.

By the way, if cock fighting was a part of culture and popular among the masses, it would not be banned by most governments. We only see this game being played in certain backward areas and modern people have already abandoned this sports.

I'm not a fan of animal fighting as sport but it's always funny where people choose to draw the line. People use horses for racing, they flog those horses so hard so they can go faster, but that's okay. Scientist use different kind of animals for experiment and a good number of them die but that's okay. People pay millions to see two people in a cage beat themselves with all they've got in the name of UFC and that's okay. People even make fortunes from it through gambling and other ways but that's okay. It's cock fight that y'all draw the line. Funny.

[Vaculin]

How sad is it to earn your living and money from the cruel killing of the cock fights? I do not think anyone can sleep properly if they saw how cock fighting in being done and here we are talking about earning from this business whether is directly related to conducting this fight or indirectly through gambling on these cock fighting matches.

By the way, if cock fighting was a part of culture and popular among the masses, it would not be banned by most governments. We only see this game being played in certain backward areas and modern people have already abandoned this sports.

I'm not a fan of animal fighting as sport but it's always funny where people choose to draw the line. People use horses for racing, they flog those horses so hard so they can go faster, but that's okay. Scientist use different kind of animals for experiment and a good number of them die but that's okay. People pay millions to see two people in a cage beat themselves with all they've got in the name of UFC and that's okay. People even make fortunes from it through gambling and other ways but that's okay. It's cock fight that y'all draw the line. Funny.

Yes, people are saying things that they shouldn't be like this and that and asking too many questions about why these certain sports are considered legal yet they didn't know that there's a lot of sports that are far more cruel. Just like the ones you stated mate, people are just choosing where to draw their line and it's just a matter of personal preference. This world we live on are already cruel than what we have thought and there are some things that we cannot change, it's just better to keep ourselves some distance if there's some things that we don't like while also respecting their decisions.

[Odusko]

this is like in gladiator times when people loves to bet for the life of others .
aren't we contented in all forms of gambling that we have existed ? there are even thousand kind of game worldwide then why need to put the cocks in the arena and let them die ?
this is not tolerable for me , i rather choose to gamble all day in online or live casino than betting in these animals.

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

this is like in gladiator times when people loves to bet for the life of others .
aren't we contented in all forms of gambling that we have existed ? there are even thousand kind of game worldwide then why need to put the cocks in the arena and let them die ?
this is not tolerable for me , i rather choose to gamble all day in online or live casino than betting in these animals.

That is the human wants for you, human wants can never be satisfied, it is normal for everybody, just that some of us have better control over it than others.
Most people easily get bored doing or seeing the same thing everyday, so to satisfy their hungry flesh, they crave for new kinds of games everyday, I believe this is how those who start this cock fighting thing came about it.

The fact that we slaughter this animals and use them as food should already be enough punishment, subjecting them to this kind of suffering before their death all for our profit is really uncalled for.

[Jemzx00]

How sad is it to earn your living and money from the cruel killing of the cock fights? I do not think anyone can sleep properly if they saw how cock fighting in being done and here we are talking about earning from this business whether is directly related to conducting this fight or indirectly through gambling on these cock fighting matches.

By the way, if cock fighting was a part of culture and popular among the masses, it would not be banned by most governments. We only see this game being played in certain backward areas and modern people have already abandoned this sports.

I'm not a fan of animal fighting as sport but it's always funny where people choose to draw the line. People use horses for racing, they flog those horses so hard so they can go faster, but that's okay. Scientist use different kind of animals for experiment and a good number of them die but that's okay. People pay millions to see two people in a cage beat themselves with all they've got in the name of UFC and that's okay. People even make fortunes from it through gambling and other ways but that's okay. It's cock fight that y'all draw the line. Funny.

Your reasoning may be valid as unnecessary violence is being as a sport or used for gambling purposes such as humans fighting with each other or people using horses to race but these things differ to Cock Fighting. Scientists used animals such as lab rats to test inventions that could possibly help humanity from danger such as Covid. People fighting in a ring such as UFC, MMA, and boxing involve unnecessary fighting to prove who's stronger however it differs too much on Cock Fighting as these kinds of matches are to the death where it ends either with a critically wounded chicken or a dead chicken which is why a lot of people are against it. The same line was drawn on other kinds of animal fighting like Dog fights which are now illegal in most or all places.

[flipme]

How sad is it to earn your living and money from the cruel killing of the cock fights? I do not think anyone can sleep properly if they saw how cock fighting in being done and here we are talking about earning from this business whether is directly related to conducting this fight or indirectly through gambling on these cock fighting matches.

By the way, if cock fighting was a part of culture and popular among the masses, it would not be banned by most governments. We only see this game being played in certain backward areas and modern people have already abandoned this sports.

I'm not a fan of animal fighting as sport but it's always funny where people choose to draw the line. People use horses for racing, they flog those horses so hard so they can go faster, but that's okay. Scientist use different kind of animals for experiment and a good number of them die but that's okay. People pay millions to see two people in a cage beat themselves with all they've got in the name of UFC and that's okay. People even make fortunes from it through gambling and other ways but that's okay. It's cock fight that y'all draw the line. Funny.

I also feel sorry for the whipping of the horses. I don't think it's right for horses to be whipped either. However, when horses are whipped, they are not forced to exceed their natural capacity and strength. They are encouraged to do what they normally do. Horses are good runners. However, when two cocks or two animals are made to fight each other, there is a high probability that one of them will receive a fatal blow. Also, these fights are not their natural positions. I think the example you gave is not correct. Also, we cannot justify a wrong with another wrong. We have to say that both are wrong.

[Pamadar]

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

[serjent05]

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

There are always people who will go against the law to profit.  Even if cockfighting is banned, I bet there will be still lots of underground cockfighting appearing every now and then.  Worst the operator oftentimes is a government official.

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

Rotten to the core politicians and police officials are often the ones hosting illegal events.  Or people with strong and influential background and friends that make them untouchable are the one who has courage to go against government regulations and policies.

[Japinat]

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

That's also the reason why the government is not taking this matter into their hands and just let the public enjoy it freely because they already know that banning it will just worsen the situation. They'll be playing hide and seek with these gamblers all along and waste resources again, so now, they are just riding with it because the revenue will be a big help. Harsh truth, I reckon because these animals are experiencing cruelties just to give people some entertainment.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

That's also the reason why the government is not taking this matter into their hands and just let the public enjoy it freely because they already know that banning it will just worsen the situation. They'll be playing hide and seek with these gamblers all along and waste resources again, so now, they are just riding with it because the revenue will be a big help. Harsh truth, I reckon because these animals are experiencing cruelties just to give people some entertainment.

Think about that in the future these things like bans on cockfighting or anything that could harm an animal, all that will cease to exist and will give way to bans against animal abuse, people who do it will be penalized, And I think that one has a lot to do, in my personal opinion I don't like to see any animal suffer and I think that these things, like Gallic fights and other similar things that imply that animals have to be sacrificed, these things are going to cease to exist because the world is giving a direction towards the protection of animals and it is not a bad thing, it seems to me that it is a very good thing.

[peter0425]

Most of the games in which animals were involved were much connected to the tradition and culture. In the name of harming animals more and more activists come out against them. This shouldn't happen, because they're following what is being followed by the ancestors.

mate ,  not because our ancestors are doing it meaning it is completely correct or right , remember that most of the ancestral act are not doing for the greatness of everyone specially to humanity.

Meaning like cannibalism that some of our ancestor does should be happening still? sorry for the comparison but that is how I see it.

Animals' fight is no longer attractive lately as modern games have replaced real life animal games as that could be harmful to the animals, I understand the game you are talking about, but then it has been long since I saw people playing such games on the street since duck fight is a physical fight so no online need which is why the traditional gaming network. The

Exactly, animals fight for gambling is for old age method of gambling. Everything has changed so I don even think Asians are still doing it again. In those days when two Fowls were fighting the audience would even pin knight in the middle of the two Fowls and these two Fowls would be fighting for a very long period of time. Everything has been modernized. Physical casinos do not even moving market like the online platforms.

but it still there   have been seeing those around but at least not like Gladiator fight that human is in the verge of dying .

[michellee]

Even though it does not look interesting anymore, animal fighting still exists in some areas, especially those that still adhere to customs and traditions that have been passed down for a long time. They thought it was entertainment that could gather many people to see the fight in one place. You won't see it on the street but probably in places that only a few people know about especially those who gamble with animals. And this animal fight will not be found in physical casinos either because government regulations prohibit gambling using animals.

Cock fighting is still very popular on my country even during pandemic that many organizer makes it online. There’s a lot of major tournaments on cock fight here different province with huge prize pool and bets every fight.

Besides cock fighting. Spider fight and pidgeon racing are the seasonal gambling games here that many locals really like to place there bets.

I didn't think that cockfighting was made online. But it will make a lot of people curious because something that used to be done traditionally can now be done online and they don't have to come to the match venue. This might be an interesting event but what about your government? Do they just sit idly by and do nothing as if it's not on their agenda?

Indeed, there are still many traditional games that many people still carry out in one place. And that will continue as long as there is still interest from these people to place bets.

[BobK71]

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

The government has always taken action against such a situation. However, if the general public has done such activities, the government is often confused in it. At present, some bad people do this to promote them online. But here they will not be able to make benefit.
There is no chance of coming regularly even if it goes online. Because those who manage or conduct such games are always trying to hide themselves if it is transmitted to online then they will definitely identified. Generally, such games are rarely seen in any community, so the law and forces do not even try to find out with great importance. If such gambles are managed regularly online or offline, then it is certainly possible to eliminate it by local law enforcement.

[og kush420]

The government has always taken action against such a situation. However, if the general public has done such activities, the government is often confused in it. At present, some bad people do this to promote them online. But here they will not be able to make benefit.
There is no chance of coming regularly even if it goes online. Because those who manage or conduct such games are always trying to hide themselves if it is transmitted to online then they will definitely identified. Generally, such games are rarely seen in any community, so the law and forces do not even try to find out with great importance. If such gambles are managed regularly online or offline, then it is certainly possible to eliminate it by local law enforcement.

apart from government restrictions - it is curle to enjoy animal fight
I once saw bear fighting with dogs. Since I am not the one who enjoys these kinds of activities - so I fainted seeing blood all around. It was very christmas say 10 years ago. I still remember the bitterness of it.

[Slow death]

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

the moment the government decrees that the Cock fight is illegal to stop tomorrow for example, even people who are addicted to this type of thing will be scared and will not do it anymore, I say that because we all know that there are police everywhere and this type of fight always has a concentration of many people making a lot of noise and consequently it is something that cannot be organized and not be visible to the police

even if people organize in some distant closed place there will always be someone who will report to the police and the police will come to arrest the person who organized everything, why will this happen? because there are many people who are for animal rights. see that there are many people who do clandestine fights but as people know that the person who is fighting has the brain to decide to fight or not, people do not report it to the police, but in the case of an animal that is being forced to fight, people will report it the police

[Mahanton]

The government has always taken action against such a situation. However, if the general public has done such activities, the government is often confused in it. At present, some bad people do this to promote them online. But here they will not be able to make benefit.
There is no chance of coming regularly even if it goes online. Because those who manage or conduct such games are always trying to hide themselves if it is transmitted to online then they will definitely identified. Generally, such games are rarely seen in any community, so the law and forces do not even try to find out with great importance. If such gambles are managed regularly online or offline, then it is certainly possible to eliminate it by local law enforcement.

apart from government restrictions - it is curle to enjoy animal fight
I once saw bear fighting with dogs. Since I am not the one who enjoys these kinds of activities - so I fainted seeing blood all around. It was very christmas say 10 years ago. I still remember the bitterness of it.

These are natural encounters which it is really just normal that blood would scatter out everywhere not like into those intently made out animal fights like on an arena or something like that.
Yes, its normal to see those bloods considering that they are fighting.Some could be able to bare it out those situations or scenarios and some just cant take it.
Its true that cockfighting is a cultural based kind of gambling on certain Asian countries which it do turns out that theyre really get used to it.
So its up to you whether you would really be that interested or not.

[danherbias07]

These are natural encounters which it is really just normal that blood would scatter out everywhere not like into those intently made out animal fights like on an arena or something like that.
Yes, its normal to see those bloods considering that they are fighting.Some could be able to bare it out those situations or scenarios and some just cant take it.
Its true that cockfighting is a cultural based kind of gambling on certain Asian countries which it do turns out that theyre really get used to it.
So its up to you whether you would really be that interested or not.

Cultural, traditional, inherited. I had friends in my neighborhood who ended up just like their old man doing the same blood sport when they got older.
Sometimes this kind of thing sticks with you especially if you are the one feeding and taking care of it when your Dad commands you to do so.
Then, there will be a time when curiosity will hit you so you will end up in the same place where they do the fighting, the pit.
Next thing you know you are also breeding a rooster for the same purpose as what your old man did.
I've been there but I never took it seriously, this kind of gambling is so expensive and takes a lot of your time.

[Cantsay]

Animals' fight is no longer attractive lately as modern games have replaced real life animal games as that could be harmful to the animals, I understand the game you are talking about, but then it has been long since I saw people playing such games on the street since duck fight is a physical fight so no online need which is why the traditional gaming network. The

It's no longer common now that technology has changed the way if the society. But I still see people gather round to watch if cocks are fighting but this time the fight wasn't stage it just occurred on its own and no one place any bet. They are all there just to entertain themselves.

[..]
I once saw bear fighting with dogs. Since I am not the one who enjoys these kinds of activities - so I fainted seeing blood all around. It was very christmas say 10 years ago. I still remember the bitterness of it.

And the worst part is that when the fight is going on you'll see so many people excited screaming meanwhile the animals are fighting desperately to survive.

[Mahanton]

These are natural encounters which it is really just normal that blood would scatter out everywhere not like into those intently made out animal fights like on an arena or something like that.
Yes, its normal to see those bloods considering that they are fighting.Some could be able to bare it out those situations or scenarios and some just cant take it.
Its true that cockfighting is a cultural based kind of gambling on certain Asian countries which it do turns out that theyre really get used to it.
So its up to you whether you would really be that interested or not.

Cultural, traditional, inherited. I had friends in my neighborhood who ended up just like their old man doing the same blood sport when they got older.
Sometimes this kind of thing sticks with you especially if you are the one feeding and taking care of it when your Dad commands you to do so.
Then, there will be a time when curiosity will hit you so you will end up in the same place where they do the fighting, the pit.
Next thing you know you are also breeding a rooster for the same purpose as what your old man did.
I've been there but I never took it seriously, this kind of gambling is so expensive and takes a lot of your time.

Ive known some of my friends turns out that their father was a cockfighting enthusiast or shall we say a gambler who still doesnt like to get involved with this kind of habit on which he isnt really that
interested on making gambling considering that it is really just a waste of money on gambling it out.Its true that this one isnt really that a cheap one when you do place out some bets.
But surprisingly there are lots of people who do really get a fan off on betting with this type which some do make out criticism because of animal
cruelty.

[coin-investor]

Animals' fight is no longer attractive lately as modern games have replaced real life animal games as that could be harmful to the animals, I understand the game you are talking about, but then it has been long since I saw people playing such games on the street since duck fight is a physical fight so no online need which is why the traditional gaming network. The

It's no longer common now that technology has changed the way if the society. But I still see people gather round to watch if cocks are fighting but this time the fight wasn't stage it just occurred on its own and no one place any bet. They are all there just to entertain themselves.

[..]
I once saw bear fighting with dogs. Since I am not the one who enjoys these kinds of activities - so I fainted seeing blood all around. It was very christmas say 10 years ago. I still remember the bitterness of it.

And the worst part is that when the fight is going on you'll see so many people excited screaming meanwhile the animals are fighting desperately to survive.

It's inherent in us we have the animal side of us in the olden days of the gladiators in the Roman era they made slaves fight each other to the death and these are humans, not animals but they are treated as animals we are more savage than animals when it comes to this, in times of wars our savage side comes to defend or assault our enemy, we are both defenders and predators, its something we are born with.

[Sithara007]

And the worst part is that when the fight is going on you'll see so many people excited screaming meanwhile the animals are fighting desperately to survive.

First of all, domestication of any animal goes against nature. And then you want to impose your sense of morality on other people who may not agree with that suggestion. In nature, animals constantly fight against each other. And once they get domesticated, you can't expect this urge to go away suddenly. Now people enjoying these fights are a part of nature as well. And if you go against the nature, it is not going to end very well. Look at the poultry industry. The preference is for breeds that gain weight fast. And this has led to the extinction of other breeds. And the breeds that gain weight are the ones who provide less nutritious meat, with lower protein content.

[traderethereum]

Animals' fight is no longer attractive lately as modern games have replaced real life animal games as that could be harmful to the animals, I understand the game you are talking about, but then it has been long since I saw people playing such games on the street since duck fight is a physical fight so no online need which is why the traditional gaming network. The

It's no longer common now that technology has changed the way if the society. But I still see people gather round to watch if cocks are fighting but this time the fight wasn't stage it just occurred on its own and no one place any bet. They are all there just to entertain themselves.

We may never see it again, but cockfighting still exists in certain areas because there is still interest from those who want to bet and watch the game.
Or maybe they made the fight to reminisce where there are still many of those fights that we often see in the past.
But with regulations from the government that began to prohibit bets using animals, the organizers must arrange the matches in secret.
And besides that, some traditions still allow cockfighting in certain events.

[erep]

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

That's also the reason why the government is not taking this matter into their hands and just let the public enjoy it freely because they already know that banning it will just worsen the situation. They'll be playing hide and seek with these gamblers all along and waste resources again, so now, they are just riding with it because the revenue will be a big help. Harsh truth, I reckon because these animals are experiencing cruelties just to give people some entertainment.

Hobbies can overcome any restrictions that have been banned by the government, cockfighting will continue to exist in the midst of society even though they know this type of gambling does not get a good response from the government. They will look for a place away from the crowds to channel their hobbies, even though at certain times law enforcers come uninvited, they will make negotiations at the scene so they don't get caught in the law.
The level of punishment for cockfighting perpetrators should be increased for making pets suffer which is considered entertainment for some people.

[AicecreaME]

Hobbies can overcome any restrictions that have been banned by the government, cockfighting will continue to exist in the midst of society even though they know this type of gambling does not get a good response from the government. They will look for a place away from the crowds to channel their hobbies, even though at certain times law enforcers come uninvited, they will make negotiations at the scene so they don't get caught in the law.
The level of punishment for cockfighting perpetrators should be increased for making pets suffer which is considered entertainment for some people.

Indeed.

Those who do cockfighting will just find ways on how they will continue their gambling habits illegally if the government will ban this. They will just relocate somewhere far from the authorities to organize their event and this is much even worse because it is no longer regulated by the authorities. The authorities won't be able to keep an eye on them that could just make things so much horrible because they could include other bad habits while playing and betting such as having drinks on the side, or even using illegal drugs on the actual site of cockfighting event that is hidden.

However, we can't fully eliminate this because of culture and traditional differences. As much as I abhor the thought of humans playing with animals that could cost the latter's life, I cannot impose my beliefs because each place and people has their own to begin with.

[judeafante]

However, we can't fully eliminate this because of culture and traditional differences. As much as I abhor the thought of humans playing with animals that could cost the latter's life, I cannot impose my beliefs because each place and people has their own to begin with.

There are cultures where animals fightings are part of the ritual, and they handed it down from one generation to the other because they believe that it will bring their community peace, here in our place its a ritual to slit a throat of a chicken when building a foundation, so even if the government interfere, it's impossible to stop a tradition that is part of the ritual, many people believe in ritual than what is right and wrong.

[stadus]

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

There are always people who will go against the law to profit.  Even if cockfighting is banned, I bet there will be still lots of underground cockfighting appearing every now and then.  Worst the operator oftentimes is a government official.

Even that is not new anymore in these types of weather, I'm not generalizing everyone who wears the uniform and has a seat in the government but even though we don't know, we already know that there's always someone who just love to take advantage of the power they have and protects the illegal side of the gambling business, especially the cockfighting where it's so famous in the Asia.

[ethereumhunter]

Even that is not new anymore in these types of weather, I'm not generalizing everyone who wears the uniform and has a seat in the government but even though we don't know, we already know that there's always someone who just love to take advantage of the power they have and protects the illegal side of the gambling business, especially the cockfighting where it's so famous in the Asia.

I have seen it many times on television where people in uniform do something to protect against the illegal activity of any business and not just gambling. In the end, the authorities caught them red-handed handing over security money and reported it to the public. And it's no longer a secret if a person or several people in uniform use their power to have a side business. It really needs people who are honest in their duties to eradicate these illegal activities because it will never be easy.

[qwertyup23]

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

That's also the reason why the government is not taking this matter into their hands and just let the public enjoy it freely because they already know that banning it will just worsen the situation. They'll be playing hide and seek with these gamblers all along and waste resources again, so now, they are just riding with it because the revenue will be a big help. Harsh truth, I reckon because these animals are experiencing cruelties just to give people some entertainment.

If the government cannot completely avoid this kind of situation, they must at least provide stricter and stringent regulation when it comes to these kinds of games. Animal cruelty has been slowly gaining attraction and recognition compared before and this kind of situation must not be taken lightly. The problem is, how do we see a middle-ground for these types of games especially that they are already existing for hundreds of years now?

As someone who grew up with a family that loves to engage in cockfighting (we even have a designated farm raising cockfighters), stricter regulations must be implemented and harsh sanctions must be executed who violate such.

[capedbaldy]

I have seen it many times on television where people in uniform do something to protect against the illegal activity of any business and not just gambling. In the end, the authorities caught them red-handed handing over security money and reported it to the public. And it's no longer a secret if a person or several people in uniform use their power to have a side business. It really needs people who are honest in their duties to eradicate these illegal activities because it will never be easy.

Regulations are never implemented if officials in uniform are dishonest in their duties, they forbid it because they do not get a tip from the provider of the cockfighting place and after they get it, the torture of cockfighting is allowed to go free without any regulations, so honest officials are needed to eradicate cockfighting gambling, so Animal abuse will not happen again in the future.

[QueenVera]

Why not call it a ram fight games rather than cock fight games?
Lol just bursting balls. I've watched most of this things online and it isn't strange to me but it's not common in my country if at all it is even present.
I mostly watch this very aggressive cock fights in Vietnamese movies and some Chinese movies and I also had to conclude that those cocks used for those fights and gambling were or are specially trained and most have gone through a whole of training to be trusted by people for a good fight and possibly wins.
I know those environments are not safe and I wouldn't want to stay over at such place for long.

[ethereumhunter]

I have seen it many times on television where people in uniform do something to protect against the illegal activity of any business and not just gambling. In the end, the authorities caught them red-handed handing over security money and reported it to the public. And it's no longer a secret if a person or several people in uniform use their power to have a side business. It really needs people who are honest in their duties to eradicate these illegal activities because it will never be easy.

Regulations are never implemented if officials in uniform are dishonest in their duties, they forbid it because they do not get a tip from the provider of the cockfighting place and after they get it, the torture of cockfighting is allowed to go free without any regulations, so honest officials are needed to eradicate cockfighting gambling, so Animal abuse will not happen again in the future.

The government can certainly have uniformed officers who are honest in carrying out their duties to catch the perpetrators of illegal activities. And even though it was difficult, they would have help from the people around who would help find information on where the cockfighting took place.

Maybe if the government that allows gambling can legalize cockfighting to get income from the business, it won't be difficult for cockfighting organizers because they can hold it in many places. At the same time, the government can also get additional income. Thus, the government can implement regulations and all parties can get their respective wishes.

[Sithara007]

The government can certainly have uniformed officers who are honest in carrying out their duties to catch the perpetrators of illegal activities. And even though it was difficult, they would have help from the people around who would help find information on where the cockfighting took place.

Maybe if the government that allows gambling can legalize cockfighting to get income from the business, it won't be difficult for cockfighting organizers because they can hold it in many places. At the same time, the government can also get additional income. Thus, the government can implement regulations and all parties can get their respective wishes.

There are only a few places in Asia where gambling is legal (such as Macau and Singapore). But in none of the countries around the world, cock fighting is legal. In some countries such as India and Spain, bull fighting is legal because it is recognized as a part of the culture. Countries such as Indonesia and Vietnam should also do the same for cock fighting, because it is part of their culture. I don't know how much they want to preserve their culture, because nowadays everyone either wants to be a Westerner or Arab.

[kotajikikox]

I have seen it many times on television where people in uniform do something to protect against the illegal activity of any business and not just gambling. In the end, the authorities caught them red-handed handing over security money and reported it to the public. And it's no longer a secret if a person or several people in uniform use their power to have a side business. It really needs people who are honest in their duties to eradicate these illegal activities because it will never be easy.

Regulations are never implemented if officials in uniform are dishonest in their duties, they forbid it because they do not get a tip from the provider of the cockfighting place and after they get it, the torture of cockfighting is allowed to go free without any regulations, so honest officials are needed to eradicate cockfighting gambling, so Animal abuse will not happen again in the future.

well , I have known many official that is truly involving in cockfighting , they even owned many cocks or being operator of the gambling place , so basically this will be harder to totally eradicate as this has been spread in the whole country .
so let's see how this runs for over decades or even centennial.

[Pamadar]

The government can certainly have uniformed officers who are honest in carrying out their duties to catch the perpetrators of illegal activities. And even though it was difficult, they would have help from the people around who would help find information on where the cockfighting took place.

Maybe if the government that allows gambling can legalize cockfighting to get income from the business, it won't be difficult for cockfighting organizers because they can hold it in many places. At the same time, the government can also get additional income. Thus, the government can implement regulations and all parties can get their respective wishes.

There are only a few places in Asia where gambling is legal (such as Macau and Singapore). But in none of the countries around the world, cock fighting is legal. In some countries such as India and Spain, bull fighting is legal because it is recognized as a part of the culture. Countries such as Indonesia and Vietnam should also do the same for cock fighting, because it is part of their culture. I don't know how much they want to preserve their culture, because nowadays everyone either wants to be a Westerner or Arab.

Depends on how those countries will implement any government rules regarding to cockfighting. We all know that there are Asian countries if not many, but there are who still patronize this gambling.

If those who recognized it as part of their culture, it will be good as they can accumulate good
amount of income taxes out from this gambling, if being well-planned and the government is
really serious, then it will be good.

[AicecreaME]

I have seen it many times on television where people in uniform do something to protect against the illegal activity of any business and not just gambling. In the end, the authorities caught them red-handed handing over security money and reported it to the public. And it's no longer a secret if a person or several people in uniform use their power to have a side business. It really needs people who are honest in their duties to eradicate these illegal activities because it will never be easy.

Regulations are never implemented if officials in uniform are dishonest in their duties, they forbid it because they do not get a tip from the provider of the cockfighting place and after they get it, the torture of cockfighting is allowed to go free without any regulations, so honest officials are needed to eradicate cockfighting gambling, so Animal abuse will not happen again in the future.

well , I have known many official that is truly involving in cockfighting , they even owned many cocks or being operator of the gambling place , so basically this will be harder to totally eradicate as this has been spread in the whole country .
so let's see how this runs for over decades or even centennial.

Indeed. Most of the time, there are really government authorities themselves that are largely involved in cockfighting. This is one of the major reasons why it can't be abolished for good aside from the cultural and traditional reasons.

A lot of powerful politicians and even personalities that are wealthy are involved in gambling such as this that hinders those who are in charge to put a stop in this operation. Hence, cockfighting still continues and is becoming more rampant. Personally, I really detest those government officials involve in gambling because they have an oath and principles to uphold. If they were to promote it people become more inclined to it and they could probably forget their duties to their country and constituents.

[Mauser]

Indeed. Most of the time, there are really government authorities themselves that are largely involved in cockfighting. This is one of the major reasons why it can't be abolished for good aside from the cultural and traditional reasons.

A lot of powerful politicians and even personalities that are wealthy are involved in gambling such as this that hinders those who are in charge to put a stop in this operation. Hence, cockfighting still continues and is becoming more rampant. Personally, I really detest those government officials involve in gambling because they have an oath and principles to uphold. If they were to promote it people become more inclined to it and they could probably forget their duties to their country and constituents.

I had no idea that politicians are so involved with cock fighting. Probably makes sense if you have a lot of money and want to bet on an exclusive event. With enough money you could train your own cocks to fight for you. It really depends on how popular and legal the game is itself. In my country it falls under animal cruelty and is not allowed. If there ever would come out a story of a politician running a cock fighting game out of his backyard, then his political career would be over. People in my country love to demonstrate against everything, right now it's mostly against pollution and for climate change, but in the past there were also demonstrations for animals. When it's a big sport in a country for hundreds of years than it can't be changed overnight. In my opinion there is a difference between watching the sport because you have cultural ties to it and betting a lot of money on it with the sole purpose of making money.

[chaser15]

If those who recognized it as part of their culture, it will be good as they can accumulate good
amount of income taxes out from this gambling, if being well-planned and the government is
really serious, then it will be good.

Yes, that's correct. Cockfighting operations as long as it was legal were also complying with taxes. Since the industry is so big, especially in those countries that allow the operation, it's one of the best revenue that a government can rely on.

It's too risky for a politician to operate or influenced an illegal cockfighting operation as to why they should do it if, in the first place, they can just be involved with it legally and have no worries about being hunted down by the authorities.

That's why the government, regardless of the country, is seriously tracking down illegal cockfighting operations so that people will only choose those legal operations over illegal operations where no taxes are being gained.

[Japinat]

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

That's also the reason why the government is not taking this matter into their hands and just let the public enjoy it freely because they already know that banning it will just worsen the situation. They'll be playing hide and seek with these gamblers all along and waste resources again, so now, they are just riding with it because the revenue will be a big help. Harsh truth, I reckon because these animals are experiencing cruelties just to give people some entertainment.

If the government cannot completely avoid this kind of situation, they must at least provide stricter and stringent regulation when it comes to these kinds of games. Animal cruelty has been slowly gaining attraction and recognition compared before and this kind of situation must not be taken lightly. The problem is, how do we see a middle-ground for these types of games especially that they are already existing for hundreds of years now?

As someone who grew up with a family that loves to engage in cockfighting (we even have a designated farm raising cockfighters), stricter regulations must be implemented and harsh sanctions must be executed who violate such.

Felt your story mate because I also came from an Asian household that really loves engaging in this kind of sports, cockfighting. My take is that time to time, these kind of gambling will somehow cease because not every household have some kid that will continue the tradition, in my case, none of my siblings takes any interests to inherit it and we chose our own ways far from it.

In the governments side, they don't have to be any stricter because people already know what's wrong or not about this kind of gambling. The government already laid out some places where to gamble and provide license, so, if someone will gamble that is not on their list then it's sure that they will get chased by the authorities.

[stadus]

Even that is not new anymore in these types of weather, I'm not generalizing everyone who wears the uniform and has a seat in the government but even though we don't know, we already know that there's always someone who just love to take advantage of the power they have and protects the illegal side of the gambling business, especially the cockfighting where it's so famous in the Asia.

I have seen it many times on television where people in uniform do something to protect against the illegal activity of any business and not just gambling. In the end, the authorities caught them red-handed handing over security money and reported it to the public. And it's no longer a secret if a person or several people in uniform use their power to have a side business. It really needs people who are honest in their duties to eradicate these illegal activities because it will never be easy.

Aren't you curious why people in uniform or the government officials get any list whom they will cuff? These said people are just a mere pawn to a much powerful man who doesn't have any seat in the government nor wear any uniform but do have the power to pull off some strings because of the connection and money they have. If you're from an Asian country then I bet you know this story. Authorities that are caught are the ones who are sacrificed for a much bigger cause or because their asking money is getting higher.

[Lanatsa]

Even that is not new anymore in these types of weather, I'm not generalizing everyone who wears the uniform and has a seat in the government but even though we don't know, we already know that there's always someone who just love to take advantage of the power they have and protects the illegal side of the gambling business, especially the cockfighting where it's so famous in the Asia.

I have seen it many times on television where people in uniform do something to protect against the illegal activity of any business and not just gambling. In the end, the authorities caught them red-handed handing over security money and reported it to the public. And it's no longer a secret if a person or several people in uniform use their power to have a side business. It really needs people who are honest in their duties to eradicate these illegal activities because it will never be easy.

Aren't you curious why people in uniform or the government officials get any list whom they will cuff? These said people are just a mere pawn to a much powerful man who doesn't have any seat in the government nor wear any uniform but do have the power to pull off some strings because of the connection and money they have. If you're from an Asian country then I bet you know this story. Authorities that are caught are the ones who are sacrificed for a much bigger cause or because their asking money is getting higher.

This doesnt only happen on Asian countries but also in other neighboring countries on which it is really just in reality that those people who do have the money will really be having always that kind of power and

capability on making things in control.Even if they arent on a position but since they do have that financial capability or simply being rich and influential then pretty sure that you would really be making yourself

to be excluded or having that exclusion for whatever things that you've been dealing.IF you do get caught then you could easily get away with it because there are
people whom could easily for you to bribe with.