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November 27, 2022, 04:42:09 AM
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I‘ve wondered why this sort of thing hasn’t become reality with the internet and crypto. It’s probably a good thing as this sort of inhumane behavior would likely lead to protests. However, I once thought it might be cool to have a crypto gambling site where users could bet on fish fights between Japanese fighting fish, but again, a bit inhumane even if fish are a little less evil due to them not feeling pain. This sort of thing could only bring negativity to Bitcoin, so it’s probably best it doesn’t exist.

Probably but it is thriving on fiat system, specially cockfighting, it's famous in Asia, events are online, gamblers bet. So I don't think it will make any difference or negativity to bitcoin and crypto.

Again, it really up to the society or the government to whether think this is inhumane behavior or not. And if you are a gambler but then are against this kind of cruelty, then just skip it at all.

It’s not up to anyone to decide, there is no decision to be made. Animal fighting of any kind is 100% wrong and unacceptable. I can’t believe some of you are here are willing to justify it as okay, or part of your society/tradition etc.

Culture doesn’t = right.  Take a look at Iran right now. Forcing women to wear certain clothes and do certain things had long been considered “tradition”. Now many Iranians have woken up and realized how utterly ridiculous it is and how wrong it is to not allow for freedom and equal rights.

Sadly so many of you here on this forum have been raised by brainwashing. You weren’t given the chance or education that’s open and free, but rather taught to do and think exactly as you’re told (normally enforced through the words of your scripture, which is of course often taken out of context and used as a weapon of control). The movie “the book of Eli” does an excellent job of showing how this works.


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November 27, 2022, 05:17:40 AM
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It’s not up to anyone to decide, there is no decision to be made. Animal fighting of any kind is 100% wrong and unacceptable. I can’t believe some of you are here are willing to justify it as okay, or part of your society/tradition etc.

Culture doesn’t = right.  Take a look at Iran right now. Forcing women to wear certain clothes and do certain things had long been considered “tradition”. Now many Iranians have woken up and realized how utterly ridiculous it is and how wrong it is to not allow for freedom and equal rights.

Sadly so many of you here on this forum have been raised by brainwashing. You weren’t given the chance or education that’s open and free, but rather taught to do and think exactly as you’re told (normally enforced through the words of your scripture, which is of course often taken out of context and used as a weapon of control). The movie “the book of Eli” does an excellent job of showing how this works.


STOP PROMOTING THE TORTURE OF INNOCENT ANIMALS YOU SICK FUCKS (thank you to those who understand right from wrong).

  -  You know I get what you want to convey here, it's just that we can't do anything if there is a tradition that other countries follow. When it comes to things like this.

I then remembered, apart from cockfighting that takes place in different countries, there is also bullfighting that takes place in other parts of the world, and there is also dog fighting (Pitbull) which causes gamblers to bet though it's just that if you look at these animals it's also pathetic after the fight, to expect someone who won't survive for sure.

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November 27, 2022, 05:59:40 AM
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I have Cock fight in my country too, and I feel are too violent... I mean, putting a knife on the animal's foot and watching how they kill each other is not my favorite way to win a bet. And I think that's the main reason for the banning of this activity in some countries.

I like other ways to betting where no one has to die at the end of the match. But if it's part of the culture there is no other option than respect it.
I guess you are living on one of the Asian countries because this kind of activities are very common there especially when there are town festivals. There will always be a schedule for the cock fights but it's strange on why you are not used to it. You didn't watch it often even when you are still a kid?

But, if you think about it, we also kill chickens using sharp knives because they are a source of food therefore we should not worry about it. There are countries that banned it because are not used to it and they are also not allowing gambling in their country. You still have a good personality because you don't like someone that gets hurt it. May god bless you more for that.

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November 27, 2022, 07:03:20 AM
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This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?
Well, for me animal fighting is not fun and should not be use as tool for gambling. But if it's not prohibited by the Government, these people won't stop using animal, because as you've said it's fun for those who are engaging themselves in this kind of activity. Anyway, in our country, cock fighting is quite popular especially here in our place. Many men elders are taking care of rooster as business (they sell it when ready) or use it for fighting for their own satisfaction. We have an arena where cock fighting is held, it's legal. Recently they even had a promotion called "fastest kill" and the prize is $600 plus a brand new motorcycle.
To me, that's also unpleasant because it's the same as us torturing animals to satisfy our desires and hopefully, that's outlawed by every government. You may gamble and use any media but don't use animals. However, gambling with animals still occurs in some Asian countries and they can gamble in hidden places. The government has noticed this and banned gambling with animals, but there seems to be some community in some areas that cannot detect it easily. This requires more effort from the government to make its citizens aware that those who gamble using animals have abused these animals.

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November 27, 2022, 07:13:02 AM
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I have Cock fight in my country too, and I feel are too violent... I mean, putting a knife on the animal's foot and watching how they kill each other is not my favorite way to win a bet. And I think that's the main reason for the banning of this activity in some countries.

I like other ways to betting where no one has to die at the end of the match. But if it's part of the culture there is no other option than respect it.
I guess you are living on one of the Asian countries because this kind of activities are very common there especially when there are town festivals. There will always be a schedule for the cock fights but it's strange on why you are not used to it. You didn't watch it often even when you are still a kid?

But, if you think about it, we also kill chickens using sharp knives because they are a source of food therefore we should not worry about it. There are countries that banned it because are not used to it and they are also not allowing gambling in their country. You still have a good personality because you don't like someone that gets hurt it. May god bless you more for that.
it's actually easy if you don't want any animals to die or be killed in gambling as the OP wrote in the thread that is it possible that it will be added in the casino I think it looks like you can that is using a kind of NFT collection of chickens with various versions and qualities of the chickens themselves so that they can fight each other with chicken NFT owners from other users  Wink

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November 27, 2022, 07:22:28 AM
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it's actually easy if you don't want any animals to die or be killed in gambling as the OP wrote in the thread that is it possible that it will be added in the casino I think it looks like you can that is using a kind of NFT collection of chickens with various versions and qualities of the chickens themselves so that they can fight each other with chicken NFT owners from other users  Wink

Good idea, indeed my country there are still some people who do gambling with fighting chickens. But I'm not sure they'll switch to this model. The reason is that they don't understand technologies like NFTs. Need introduction or socialization. They prefer cash to be received directly without intermediaries.
Maybe for gamblers who are tech-savvy it would be a good solution. But for traditional people, it seems that they don't want to know and learn.

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November 27, 2022, 08:05:03 AM
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This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?
Seeing animals fighting around us is not fun especially gambling on this type of game. I know that there are many types of games where gamblers bet on animal fighting and this is famous in developing countries or the third world, but in developed countries it will be difficult to find it because they protect animals so much.
This type of gambling also exists in my country but it is done but private acsess because it is illegal even though gamblers can still play it in various ways, for example playing in hidden places and gamblers who come have been filtered first in various ways.
If I had the opportunity to join that gambling community, I would still prefer not to take part in betting and even want to watch it, unless it's just online gambling where the animals that are fighting are only in virtual form, not real animals that can injure one another.

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If such a game is viewed for passion then it gets some acceptability but when such game is organized for gambling it loses its acceptability completely. Not just cockfighting. In my opinion, none of the animal in the world should be encouraged by gambling to play such a combative game. Moreover, I do not believe that there is any precedent in any religion to accept such a thing. If someone is regularly immersed in such activities then it is everyone's responsibility to bring him back.

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November 27, 2022, 01:19:32 PM
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If such a game is viewed for passion then it gets some acceptability but when such game is organized for gambling it loses its acceptability completely.

No one should be encouraged by human both for passion or organized for gambling. Human make laws for themself against fighting, body harm by the other person or killing of human that people charge offender to court for redress and to punish. How can human now to organise animal fighting for fun, passion or gambling and they can understand the pain of the fight to the body. That act of human is now barbaric to do, it is cutting the life of animals short and untimely.
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November 27, 2022, 01:33:33 PM
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Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?
There are numerous gambling and betting competitions without animal cruelty. I would prefer it better. In such games of chance, which OP is talking about, a person doesn't even directly touch animals, but creates such conditions in which animals cripple each other. Above you give such examples. I would not want to participate or even watch such games. I'm sorry, but I don't like this. I doubt that such games will be included in the casino. In offline casinos, they definitely won’t. I can't imagine that in a casino building that looks like a palace they will create an enclosure for cockfights or ramfights, where spectators will stand around. It seems to me that these are completely different types of gambling, in no way compatible and from different worlds.

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November 27, 2022, 02:07:05 PM
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This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?
Gambling on chickens, sheep, buffalo, crickets and so on, this is a traditional type of game/gambling, not all countries are legal for this gambling, many Muslim-majority countries prohibit this type of betting, if caught they will have to deal with law enforcement, even so there are some areas where this type of animal gambling is a tradition passed down from their ancestors.

Sometimes, like gambling on sheep, buffalo, chickens and so on, there is an attractive power to show to tourists, both local and international, depending on the situation and gambling laws in that country.

But if this type of gambling is implemented and included in an online casino site, why not, all of that can be done depending on the features and system of the online casino in implementing games such as gambling on chickens, sheep and so on, as casino gambling on dogs, horses etc.

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November 27, 2022, 02:21:01 PM
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I‘ve wondered why this sort of thing hasn’t become reality with the internet and crypto. It’s probably a good thing as this sort of inhumane behavior would likely lead to protests. However, I once thought it might be cool to have a crypto gambling site where users could bet on fish fights between Japanese fighting fish, but again, a bit inhumane even if fish are a little less evil due to them not feeling pain. This sort of thing could only bring negativity to Bitcoin, so it’s probably best it doesn’t exist.

Until the industry became so corrupt that there was game fixing that results in kidnapping and killing that the government have to stop the operation, they have no choice but to do that, because of this cock fighting so many humans are sacrificed

Good thing it stop because cockfighting doesn't do anything good to people since for what we see in local news it all cost to much damage to people who's betting on cock fighting. And look what happen government can live without it also it seems that crimes or violence news related with such incidents are been low because government already ban the source.

FYI only the online version was stopped there is still cockfighting in stadiums and specialized cockpit arenas, its a tradition for many countries and so instead of totally banning it, governments just regulate it so they can make money out of it, it's hard to fight tradition, only on a total communist country can they stop tradition, it may look cruelty to animals but these gamblers don't see it that way they only want to make money and they will just eventually cook the chicken who loss in the match.

The banned cockfight game was just the E-Sabong and not the indoor ones which is attended by a mass of people on occasions. At first, the government seems to benefit from it because of the millions of taxes that the game can give but eventually, people have gone addicted to it because they can just play anywhere and anytime they want without going to a cockpit arena, and some cases, there are people who got lost because of the alleged cheating inside.

Now, only the selected cockpits are given the permit to operate their businesses, given that they will just open their doors occasionally, so that people won't get that too addicted.

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November 27, 2022, 02:29:41 PM
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Agreed, you're right about how horrendous these kinds of activities are especially since times have already changed and this should be avoided as much as possible however these activities are part of the culture of these countries which makes it hard to stop. I'm from a country where cock fighting is too common where you may see it in any place you visit and unfortunately, it some people are against it, they can't stop it as it is already a part of our culture, and it is a common activity on most festivals on provincial part of my country.

Also, this can be said for other animal activities in other countries such as Bull Riding and Horse Race where animals are used to compete with each other or subjected to a stressful environment which are also common cultural activities in those countries.
Except rosters fight all the time even if they are not matched by people. When you put 2 cocks in one square meter, chances is that they will fight to death. There is no protest against this kind of gambling. This is a culture for countries in Asia. Besides rosters/chickens is not an endaganred species. Unlike dogfights, the Animal welfare society will be rallying for justice for these pets.

Did you know that they eat these chickens when they die in the fight?  Well, that's what they said in the youtube comments.  Cheesy
That's not the point here, yes, in the wild most animals will fight once they face each other however setting up two animals in a restricted location or ring isn't natural which is why Animal Organization are against it as human are the ones who's provoking these animals to fight to the death. However, there are various reasons which these activities are hard to stop such as culture and how we treat these animals where we also kill them for human consumption or food.

And, yes, I can assure you that in all matches these chickens that were injured or killed are eaten or even added to the bet where the winner will be the who can take them and cook them.

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November 27, 2022, 02:50:02 PM
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I have only seen in movies, and heard cock fight as gambling for people and I heard it from the Asian part of the world. Expect movie, I have not seen it in physical life that people used cocks for gambling. And also in the second part of the story which talked about Muslims using Rams for gambling is the first time I am hearing it. Though I have not gone to that part of the world or country. I have not heard of it. Though in life, everything can be used to place gamble.
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November 27, 2022, 03:13:44 PM
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Yes, it can be added to casinos but don't tell that it's fun. You don't have the same feelings as the majority that find it not really fun at all.
There's the thing that's about it that's being debated by many people and if you're happy seeing these animals bathe with their bloods, you need to reconsider that feeling of yours.

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November 27, 2022, 03:57:07 PM
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Yes I have heard of cock fight and have also watched it in films, I have a friend from part of Asia he explained this gambling stuff to me saying that his parents and grandparents loves gambling on cock fight. He said also grew up to enjoy it because they see it as fun. I love trying something new,if i happen to see it anywhere I will go and watch and possibly stake my bet after I have observed the game and have seen the rascal chicken that is capable of winning. I don't think this can be included in a casino because of the love man has for animals and have seen them worth living so many people might not like the concept.
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November 27, 2022, 06:06:52 PM
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I‘ve wondered why this sort of thing hasn’t become reality with the internet and crypto. It’s probably a good thing as this sort of inhumane behavior would likely lead to protests. However, I once thought it might be cool to have a crypto gambling site where users could bet on fish fights between Japanese fighting fish, but again, a bit inhumane even if fish are a little less evil due to them not feeling pain. This sort of thing could only bring negativity to Bitcoin, so it’s probably best it doesn’t exist.

Until the industry became so corrupt that there was game fixing that results in kidnapping and killing that the government have to stop the operation, they have no choice but to do that, because of this cock fighting so many humans are sacrificed

Good thing it stop because cockfighting doesn't do anything good to people since for what we see in local news it all cost to much damage to people who's betting on cock fighting. And look what happen government can live without it also it seems that crimes or violence news related with such incidents are been low because government already ban the source.

FYI only the online version was stopped there is still cockfighting in stadiums and specialized cockpit arenas, its a tradition for many countries and so instead of totally banning it, governments just regulate it so they can make money out of it, it's hard to fight tradition, only on a total communist country can they stop tradition, it may look cruelty to animals but these gamblers don't see it that way they only want to make money and they will just eventually cook the chicken who loss in the match.
the sad part is that they only stopped the operation of e-sabong when a mother sold her kid for money so she can continue betting on e-sabong. also, despite cockfighting being regulated(to the point where police are doing raids), there is still a lot of illegal cockfighting happening and a lot of people participating.

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November 27, 2022, 06:16:59 PM
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I‘ve wondered why this sort of thing hasn’t become reality with the internet and crypto. It’s probably a good thing as this sort of inhumane behavior would likely lead to protests. However, I once thought it might be cool to have a crypto gambling site where users could bet on fish fights between Japanese fighting fish, but again, a bit inhumane even if fish are a little less evil due to them not feeling pain. This sort of thing could only bring negativity to Bitcoin, so it’s probably best it doesn’t exist.

Probably but it is thriving on fiat system, specially cockfighting, it's famous in Asia, events are online, gamblers bet. So I don't think it will make any difference or negativity to bitcoin and crypto.

Again, it really up to the society or the government to whether think this is inhumane behavior or not. And if you are a gambler but then are against this kind of cruelty, then just skip it at all.

It’s not up to anyone to decide, there is no decision to be made. Animal fighting of any kind is 100% wrong and unacceptable. I can’t believe some of you are here are willing to justify it as okay, or part of your society/tradition etc.

Culture doesn’t = right.  Take a look at Iran right now. Forcing women to wear certain clothes and do certain things had long been considered “tradition”. Now many Iranians have woken up and realized how utterly ridiculous it is and how wrong it is to not allow for freedom and equal rights.

Sadly so many of you here on this forum have been raised by brainwashing. You weren’t given the chance or education that’s open and free, but rather taught to do and think exactly as you’re told (normally enforced through the words of your scripture, which is of course often taken out of context and used as a weapon of control). The movie “the book of Eli” does an excellent job of showing how this works.


STOP PROMOTING THE TORTURE OF INNOCENT ANIMALS YOU SICK FUCKS (thank you to those who understand right from wrong).

I'd hate to be on the side of animal torture, but I feel I should say that I was much younger when I thought a fish fights website wound be a good idea (decades ago, I'm old).  Nowadays I'm 100x more likely to kill a human being than an animal of any kind (take that however you want).  I don't even fish anymore or own any captive animals.  However, I think there are plenty of horrible animal abuses occurring at a much larger scale than any fighting games.  In my defense, some of these animals (like Japanese fighting fish) even do these actions normally.  They don't need to be trained to fight, it's what they do (unlike dogs that for the most part get along in packs unless taught bad behavior).  I'd also point out that human beings fight for sport, and most other animals fight as well (for clout).

That being said, I give plenty of money to the ASPCA and don't think any animal should ever be subjected to anything but love.  I reject the idea that I would promote the torture of innocent animals.  However, me being a sick fuck is still debatable. 

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November 27, 2022, 06:34:22 PM
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Betting and making money off animal fights is the worst kind of gambling I would ever experience, in my country, we have a game called "Aja Sera" which simply means "Dog race" where dogs are branded and forced to race and gamblers placing bets on the dogs, this is simply animal abuse and should be highly discouraged.

We are in the 21st century and there are so many legitimate ways to make money, even in gambling, there are several games around to make money from, why do we still have to abuse animals all in the name of making money?

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.
By the way, I thought gambling was considered a sin in the Muslim religion, how come Muslims are the ones abusing ram all in the name of making profit
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November 27, 2022, 07:05:11 PM
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Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

You're right this type of game is what has been evoke since the early days in gambling when there have not been any digital technology with gambling during that era, not only cock but gamblers also make use of other animals like rams to gamble in those days, this were best enjoyed on an open field with a numbers of spectators to witness the fight and also cast their bet, cock fight is as interesting and same way entertaining and gamblers still practice this type of gamblings till present days all over the world but common in the remote regions under rural settings.

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