Cock fight game

[Oasisman]

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? 

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

I also think luck is a huge factor in this game.  Since cockfighting is modified by equipping blades on the legs of the rooster,  other rooster are not comfortable wearing it so as a result there are some incidents of self-afflicted damage that can result in the death of a roster.  This sometimes happen when the dominant rooster shuffle the almost beaten opponent that is lying on the ground.  The dominant rooster often hit its neck that can result to insta-death of the rooster.

Another case of luck case is the fighting strategy of a cock.  Since most owners are not aware of how the cock fight, there is a chance that their rooster fight style is countered by the opposing rooster's fight style.  There are lots of cases that luck can apply on the cockfigting game.  One that I experienced was that the blade was wrongly equipped on our rooster making it not deal damage even though it should be a clear hit.

I'm not really a huge fan of cock fighting, but most of the time in a huge cock fighting tournament where wealthy and expert breeders are clashing together, it's mostly base on luck as majority of these roosters are well trained and very well taken care of with all the vitamins and hybrid foods.
However, there are these local cock fighting, which is mostly unpermitted, you can easily determine which rooster is more likely to win and which one is more likely depending on luck.

That's what I've heard from the people who loves cock fighting here in my place.

[virasisog]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such a game be in the casino?

I often watch cock fighting when I was young because my father used to work in a cock fight arena. It was heartbreaking to see animals dying for the happiness of humans but everything seems normal to the viewers since it's a traditional game.
I'm not into games where animals are involved because for me, they also deserve to live and they don't have to sacrifice their lives for our selfish desires but we can't stop these gambling games because they are already part of our culture.

[goinmerry]

I'm not into games where animals are involved because for me, they also deserve to live and they don't have to sacrifice their lives for our selfish desires but we can't stop these gambling games because they are already part of our culture.

That's what others don't understand and they will just stick with their loving the animals' stuff and being an animal patriot.

If they don't like that game, these people don't have to say "stop this game" but rather respect other countries' beliefs.

There are lots of worst cultures out there compare to cockfighting. People should not stress themselves if they don't like this type of gambling game.

[ethereumhunter]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such a game be in the casino?

I often watch cock fighting when I was young because my father used to work in a cock fight arena. It was heartbreaking to see animals dying for the happiness of humans but everything seems normal to the viewers since it's a traditional game.
I'm not into games where animals are involved because for me, they also deserve to live and they don't have to sacrifice their lives for our selfish desires but we can't stop these gambling games because they are already part of our culture.

It must be very sad to see animals dying for human satisfaction and they can't feel the sadness. But it is part of the cockfight bet and only those who lose will feel it when they see their animal lose. This animal bet is very difficult to stop and only with the awareness of the gamblers can stop it. They have to find other ways to bet and not use animals anymore to bet. Maybe one day, this animal bet will completely disappear because gamblers will have other ways to channel their passion for gambling.

[Hispo]

But how does the owner of the roosters manage to scam people that way?
Don't people know about the state of the roosters before the fight, so they can know where to place their bets?

They bet on the opponent while the rooster that they're going to release is sick and weak. It's the arbitrage scam that they do and those people that bet on their sick rooster are for sure going to lose money while they know that they've got an instant win because who's going to win with a weak and sick rooster in a fight?

Also, I assume you mean there are crime syndicates that have been ripped off by these online casinos and they retaliate against the owners of the casinos by kidnapping them.  Another reason why transparency is necessary in every kind of betting, I guess.

Exactly, they're taking revenge on those people and they presume that they're scammers that make them lose money. Those people that have been reported were never found and even the government had already stepped on it and did an investigation but it did nothing.

Man, that is insane. The government can't even stop neither the scammers nor the kidnappers?
Here people cannot try to scam people like that, they would not last a week (and they know it), very disgusting and unfair. At least, here most of the times people get "fair" fights.

The deeper I dive into this thread about cockfighting the more I convince myself it should be banned in my country and leave animals out of betting. Perhaps, with the exception of horse races. 

[Ben Barubal]

Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

  Gamblers are happy to win the chicken of their choice of course. But the animals or chickens are not happy, that's for sure, if only these

chickens could talk, they probably would have talked to people like us. It's a pity to see, because, in every game or fight between two chickens,

one of them will surely be a delicious dish after the fight. But this gambling game is not in all countries they allow to do in some others it is illegal

for them and in others it is legal.

[Reatim]

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Not all people are having fun seeing these animals kills each others because of our intentions and just because we wanted to have fun and winning , why not gamble in other form?
there are lot to offer in each casino so there is no need for animal to die in this kind of cruel way, aren't we enough of eating them?
maybe this is the time that we must act accordingly towards animal and make them have a living life without this kind of event happening .

[madnessteat]

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I absolutely agree with you, because I think animal fighting is unacceptable. This kind of entertainment has been considered normal in some countries for a long time, but animals don't have to die for entertainment. Nowadays, people can build good fighting robots suitable for this kind of entertainment and bet on them. Why this is still not being done is a big question.

[Sanitough]

In my country, there is a law of animal welfare, and against for animal cruelty such as horse and dog fight, but what, cock fighting is legal here. Only to those licensed cockpits in every sunday and some holidays.
Due to this is a huge business here and already part of the culture and tradition since many hundred years ago, i don't think if government will stop it or make a law against it since most politicians are only held to protect their businesses.

Cockfighting in my country isn’t new anymore and is certainly not an issue even if it’s considered a form of animal cruelty. The fact that it’s been legalized by the government and there are big names behind on it protecting, so it can’t be easily banned or stopped. However, on my own point of view, cockfighting is not just a form of animal cruelty but there are also a lot of crimes happening that is associated to cockfighting just like robbery, drug selling or using, and sometimes committing murder which made me see it as something that needs to be banned or something that should not be played in casinos.

[blockman]

Exactly, they're taking revenge on those people and they presume that they're scammers that make them lose money. Those people that have been reported were never found and even the government had already stepped on it and did an investigation but it did nothing.

Man, that is insane. The government can't even stop neither the scammers nor the kidnappers?
Here people cannot try to scam people like that, they would not last a week (and they know it), very disgusting and unfair. At least, here most of the times people get "fair" fights.

Yup, that's the sad reality. It seems that there's a bigger authority that's behind all of those kidnappings. They can stop the operations but about the kidnappings, it's left as a mystery who's behind related to this issue.

The deeper I dive into this thread about cockfighting the more I convince myself it should be banned in my country and leave animals out of betting. Perhaps, with the exception of horse races. 

It's a brutal sport for the animals, one has to die or be injured a lot, unlike the racing.

[btc78]

it is one of the most popular gambling in my location , there are even roosters near my house and outside my community.

they are conducting street betting for this from day to day and more on weekdays.

also the Online betting of this are rampant from the former years but now it is being banned.

maybe if there are offering now? i believe that there will be chance of this getting here in crypto gambling.

[yazher]

^

I absolutely agree with you, because I think animal fighting is unacceptable. This kind of entertainment has been considered normal in some countries for a long time, but animals don't have to die for entertainment. Nowadays, people can build good fighting robots suitable for this kind of entertainment and bet on them. Why this is still not being done is a big question.

This is one of the most overrated gambling games in our country and sometimes insects like spiders are no exception to them as long as they can play and bet on it. I think this kind of game is not really necessary because how can someone be happy seeing the animal hurt or most of the time get killed?

Animal cruelty should not be in any kind of industry unless they are slaughtered for food to be consumed.

But for the people who find it a money-making machine, they don't mind hosting an event where these cruelties happened all the time.

[len01]

maybe some people like cockfighting or goat fighting for money without seeing how sorry they are in fighting and sometimes to death.
To be honest, my family used to gamble on cockfights, but I didn't have the slightest interest when I saw the animals fighting like they were in pain and very sad. i would rather gamble in a casino or sports betting than have to pit innocent animals against each other.

and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the gambling platforms.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

In my country, there is a law of animal welfare, and against for animal cruelty such as horse and dog fight, but what, cock fighting is legal here. Only to those licensed cockpits in every sunday and some holidays.
Due to this is a huge business here and already part of the culture and tradition since many hundred years ago, i don't think if government will stop it or make a law against it since most politicians are only held to protect their businesses.

Cockfighting in my country isn’t new anymore and is certainly not an issue even if it’s considered a form of animal cruelty. The fact that it’s been legalized by the government and there are big names behind on it protecting, so it can’t be easily banned or stopped. However, on my own point of view, cockfighting is not just a form of animal cruelty but there are also a lot of crimes happening that is associated to cockfighting just like robbery, drug selling or using, and sometimes committing murder which made me see it as something that needs to be banned or something that should not be played in casinos.

Yeah, and probably that's one reason why those groups are really against cock fighting not only as a animal cruelty, but because it can really damage some lives, as you have said, like robbery or even worst, death.

So I guess, society is going to be divided in this kind of animal cruelty vs as part of tradition just like what the OP is trying to portray, that's how I understand it.

It will be a continuous topic for discussions, for every government around the world and it will be very difficult to stop this "animal cruelty".

[Betwrong]

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and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the casino platforms.

If you mean online gambling platforms, I agree with you. I think cockfighting is a kind of a thing that people who enjoy seeing it, want to see it with their own eyes, not through a video camera. I wouldn't go so far to call them "perverts", but that's what comes to mind, to be honest. But that's me. I'm not a holder of the universal truth, and, after some working on myself, I'm far from thinking that I know better than anyone, what's right and what's wrong.

[Peanutswar]

maybe some people like cockfighting or goat fighting for money without seeing how sorry they are in fighting and sometimes to death.
To be honest, my family used to gamble on cockfights, but I didn't have the slightest interest when I saw the animals fighting like they were in pain and very sad. i would rather gamble in a casino or sports betting than have to pit innocent animals against each other.

and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the casino platforms.

I have never seen a goat fighting in my country most likely they are playing cockfighting only and you cannot remove this kind of gambling games to their because before there's no gambling casino already just a casual bet between with peer to peer games which they used to the cockfighting it is seems like a pet to them they built a good body shape, vitamins and etc. to let their chicken conquers the tournament most likely, and there's no probably chance that they will adopt this kind of thing because we know how elegance a gambling casino and they have different platforms with it seems like they are already independent like the horse race game.

[stadus]

I'm not into games where animals are involved because for me, they also deserve to live and they don't have to sacrifice their lives for our selfish desires but we can't stop these gambling games because they are already part of our culture.

That's what others don't understand and they will just stick with their loving the animals' stuff and being an animal patriot.

If they don't like that game, these people don't have to say "stop this game" but rather respect other countries' beliefs.

There are lots of worst cultures out there compare to cockfighting. People should not stress themselves if they don't like this type of gambling game.

Exactly! There are lots of entertainment or sports that uses animals as the subject, stopping these kinds of sports/entertainment will take you at least centuries before you can start making slight changes. Even the famous and prestigious horse racing cannot be put on halt these days because it's already part of the history and culture, if you're an animal lover or conservative enough to go against these kinds of stuffs then you should start owning some of these animals to take care of them and to save them. Some people are just too talkative on the internet or better known as keyboard warriors but in reality, they cannot even feed or save stray cats or dogs.

[Japinat]

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? 

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

I also think luck is a huge factor in this game.  Since cockfighting is modified by equipping blades on the legs of the rooster,  other rooster are not comfortable wearing it so as a result there are some incidents of self-afflicted damage that can result in the death of a roster.  This sometimes happen when the dominant rooster shuffle the almost beaten opponent that is lying on the ground.  The dominant rooster often hit its neck that can result to insta-death of the rooster.

Another case of luck case is the fighting strategy of a cock.  Since most owners are not aware of how the cock fight, there is a chance that their rooster fight style is countered by the opposing rooster's fight style.  There are lots of cases that luck can apply on the cockfigting game.  One that I experienced was that the blade was wrongly equipped on our rooster making it not deal damage even though it should be a clear hit.

Yes, if it is not a luck-based game then what is it? I think it's clear that it's classified as a luck-based game because even if your rooster came from a strong breed that previously won different tournaments, its chances may somehow increase but its vulnerability is the same as the game is based on who will survive last or who will inflict the most stab from that blade they're equipped.

[AakZaki]

Seriously, what's the fun about cock fight game? it's animal abuse and that's not fun at all.

It's sad to see a cock that doesn't did anything wrong being forced to fight with each other until of them them sick or dead, while the owner will just looking for new cock again. I think any countries has a law about animals, if you see someone do this game, you can report it to police and they will arrest this dirty people.

I guess their motive is money. Maybe if you want to know directly you can ask them. Just watch them bet on their chickens. Then if their chickens win of course The price of their chickens will go up, they can earn more money.
My country banned cockfighting, even the police have arrested some of those activities. But it doesn't stop either, it seems that it is already a disease that is difficult to get rid of. Or maybe they've even bribed the police into keeping quiet.

[arimamib]

For me personally this type of Cock fighting bet is not that challenging. Even though some of my friends really like being around the Cock fighting arena and placing bets on one of the cocks, I just watch it without making any bets there.
I prefer betting in casinos and it is more challenging for me, self involved play is more fulfilling for me than placing bets on Cock fighting.