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December 05, 2022, 11:20:12 AM |
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Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm.
If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight. And this game can be integrated into a programmable form into online gambling Luck is a factor in everything, but compared to purely luck-based games, cock fighting is definitely not one of them. It can be compared to MMA fighting, you are right, but the big difference is that MMA fighters voluntarily take part in the event, while roosters are basically forced to participate. It's true, rosters are being raised to this fate, will receive extra care while in the conditioning period, but sadly when the time come, they will risk their life. With cockfighting, roster's decision is always based with the owners, if they are willing to move and push the fight, nothing can stop them. Both the roster and the money that they will be going to use in betting for the fight are at risk. They spend huge amount of money raising the roster then save money to bet.
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December 05, 2022, 03:19:33 PM |
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All animals have the right to life. It's not right to use them in deadly fights. It is unacceptable even to do it in ancient times. It is very sad to hear about such incidents in modern times. Anyone can bet with modern technological methods instead of harming animals. Because today, almost everyone has a smartphone in their pocket. And almost everyone has access to the Internet. It saddens me to hear such incidents in the modern age. Such a gamble would never be fun for me. I never took such a gamble. And I would never gamble like that. I would never go to a casino that organizes such a gamble. I have to admit that I am disappointed that such a gamble is considered normal.
If only people had the same mindset as you had, then surely there would be no animals here on earth that will experience human cruelty just because they are born in a species that gets them no choice but to be involved into these cultural games. And if it would be so easy to boycott these kinds of games then I bet this kind of gamble were stopped decades ago, but no, it's already too late to stop these because it is already part of the culture. Just best for us to be neutral about it, the important thing is that we aren't supporting these kinds of cruelty just for the sake to entertain humans.
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December 05, 2022, 03:26:18 PM |
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It involves a huge amount of amount that's why there must be someone with authority or even syndicates running cockpit operations. It could also be one of the reasons why police and the authorities take time to solve the issue because huge names are operating it and involved in the case. There's also news that family members of the missing agents are getting an offer (a huge amount of money) from the cockpit operator to keep their mouths shut or stop making fuss.
The problem is that several police and authorities are standing behind the organization. Hence, it is difficult for the authorities to investigate because every time they want to investigate, their steps will be deadlocked because their operations have been leaked. And it is very difficult to find out who leaked the operation because the organization is very good at hiding its agents to get valuable information from the authorities. The community thinks that the officials are not working optimally because we don't know what happened.
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December 05, 2022, 03:33:24 PM |
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Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm.
If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight. And this game can be integrated into a programmable form into online gambling Luck is a factor in everything, but compared to purely luck-based games, cock fighting is definitely not one of them. It can be compared to MMA fighting, you are right, but the big difference is that MMA fighters voluntarily take part in the event, while roosters are basically forced to participate. Cock fighting is not a luck based game, rather I will call it a game that cruel people love to play and bet on it. If you ask me, I will never be able to even watch this bloody game. How do people get amusement seeing these cock fight games? Also, can people sleep if they have won money on gambling on the blood of cocks.
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December 05, 2022, 06:33:34 PM |
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Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm.
If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight. And this game can be integrated into a programmable form into online gambling Luck is a factor in everything, but compared to purely luck-based games, cock fighting is definitely not one of them. It can be compared to MMA fighting, you are right, but the big difference is that MMA fighters voluntarily take part in the event, while roosters are basically forced to participate. Cock fighting is not a luck based game, rather I will call it a game that cruel people love to play and bet on it. If you ask me, I will never be able to even watch this bloody game. How do people get amusement seeing these cock fight games? Also, can people sleep if they have won money on gambling on the blood of cocks. I agree. It is quite a unnecessarily cruel game and I would not think that any regular western person would wish to play such a game. Our morals are quite different, which is why I believe that cock-fighting games are more popular out of cultural reasons than just some people being cruel for the sake of enjoyment. Although people can be very cruel indeed, so there may be people who enjoy watching animals suffer . But we are talking about the virtual version of this game in this thread. So cruelty free, 100%. Unless the game develops consciousness.
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December 05, 2022, 08:21:06 PM |
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This could be very difficult to find it in the gambling site its more or less of a physical gambling game which must present different cocks and sometimes requires an app version to work effectively, most of the gambling site only operates on web version. But maybe from this post most of the gambling would likely feature it in their site to make it looks more interesting and attractive.
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December 05, 2022, 08:46:56 PM |
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Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm.
If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight. And this game can be integrated into a programmable form into online gambling Luck is a factor in everything, but compared to purely luck-based games, cock fighting is definitely not one of them. It can be compared to MMA fighting, you are right, but the big difference is that MMA fighters voluntarily take part in the event, while roosters are basically forced to participate. Cock fighting is not a luck based game, rather I will call it a game that cruel people love to play and bet on it. If you ask me, I will never be able to even watch this bloody game. How do people get amusement seeing these cock fight games? Also, can people sleep if they have won money on gambling on the blood of cocks. I agree. It is quite a unnecessarily cruel game and I would not think that any regular western person would wish to play such a game. Our morals are quite different, which is why I believe that cock-fighting games are more popular out of cultural reasons than just some people being cruel for the sake of enjoyment. Although people can be very cruel indeed, so there may be people who enjoy watching animals suffer . But we are talking about the virtual version of this game in this thread. So cruelty free, 100%. Unless the game develops consciousness. So the point here is that we should respect other countries culture which we know that it could really differ into each other which people could have different impression when it comes to cockfighting. There are indeed places which doesnt really able to bare up or handle out that animal cruelty which seeing these things would really be out of the boundary or limits which they cant really afford to see it out. For other parts or side of the world then it do really turns out that they are really just that normal on where these animals been fighting insider an arena. So better bare with it and dont make yourself get stressed since each corners of the world does have different culture.
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So the point here is that we should respect other countries culture which we know that it could really differ into each other which people could have different impression when it comes to cockfighting. There are indeed places which doesnt really able to bare up or handle out that animal cruelty which seeing these things would really be out of the boundary or limits which they cant really afford to see it out. For other parts or side of the world then it do really turns out that they are really just that normal on where these animals been fighting insider an arena. So better bare with it and dont make yourself get stressed since each corners of the world does have different culture.
The so called animal rights activists are always selective in their criticism. They always pick up weak targets. Some of the tribal and rural communities have been practicing customs such as cock fighting and bull fighting for thousands of years. It has become a part of their culture. Rather than targeting these practices, the activists should rather target real incidents of animal cruelty. And trust me, a greater degree of cruelty occurs in large-scale agrobusiness facilities that are being run by the multi-billion corporate giants.
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It involves a huge amount of amount that's why there must be someone with authority or even syndicates running cockpit operations. It could also be one of the reasons why police and the authorities take time to solve the issue because huge names are operating it and involved in the case. There's also news that family members of the missing agents are getting an offer (a huge amount of money) from the cockpit operator to keep their mouths shut or stop making fuss.
The problem is that several police and authorities are standing behind the organization. Hence, it is difficult for the authorities to investigate because every time they want to investigate, their steps will be deadlocked because their operations have been leaked. And it is very difficult to find out who leaked the operation because the organization is very good at hiding its agents to get valuable information from the authorities. The community thinks that the officials are not working optimally because we don't know what happened. Correct, the moment anyone tries to begin arresting people or confiscating the animals which are supposed to participate in those fights, a corrupt official will know this and tell the farmers the police is coming and by the time they get to the farms there will be no evidence there, people to arrest or animals they can save, and until this changes then it does not matter if cock fighting is illegal as the people that are behind it will keep organizing those fights.
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It involves a huge amount of amount that's why there must be someone with authority or even syndicates running cockpit operations. It could also be one of the reasons why police and the authorities take time to solve the issue because huge names are operating it and involved in the case. There's also news that family members of the missing agents are getting an offer (a huge amount of money) from the cockpit operator to keep their mouths shut or stop making fuss.
The problem is that several police and authorities are standing behind the organization. Hence, it is difficult for the authorities to investigate because every time they want to investigate, their steps will be deadlocked because their operations have been leaked. And it is very difficult to find out who leaked the operation because the organization is very good at hiding its agents to get valuable information from the authorities. The community thinks that the officials are not working optimally because we don't know what happened. Correct, the moment anyone tries to begin arresting people or confiscating the animals which are supposed to participate in those fights, a corrupt official will know this and tell the farmers the police is coming and by the time they get to the farms there will be no evidence there, people to arrest or animals they can save, and until this changes then it does not matter if cock fighting is illegal as the people that are behind it will keep organizing those fights. The other fact is the authorities are under the organization's payroll that is the first and foremost reason why the gambling lords are always one step ahead. In many cases, there are a lot of illegal cockfights or gambling that are seized by the authorities, but these gambling lords are just erasing their competitors while the authorities are getting fresh image from the public because of the seized operations they've accomplished. The public are just blinded from what is really happening behind the scenes, what they're getting are just the small fishes who are sacrificed for the protection of the big fishes. Quite unfair, isn't it? But that's the world we're living.
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December 07, 2022, 02:37:48 AM |
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It involves a huge amount of amount that's why there must be someone with authority or even syndicates running cockpit operations. It could also be one of the reasons why police and the authorities take time to solve the issue because huge names are operating it and involved in the case. There's also news that family members of the missing agents are getting an offer (a huge amount of money) from the cockpit operator to keep their mouths shut or stop making fuss.
The problem is that several police and authorities are standing behind the organization. Hence, it is difficult for the authorities to investigate because every time they want to investigate, their steps will be deadlocked because their operations have been leaked. And it is very difficult to find out who leaked the operation because the organization is very good at hiding its agents to get valuable information from the authorities. The community thinks that the officials are not working optimally because we don't know what happened. Correct, the moment anyone tries to begin arresting people or confiscating the animals which are supposed to participate in those fights, a corrupt official will know this and tell the farmers the police is coming and by the time they get to the farms there will be no evidence there, people to arrest or animals they can save, and until this changes then it does not matter if cock fighting is illegal as the people that are behind it will keep organizing those fights. The other fact is the authorities are under the organization's payroll that is the first and foremost reason why the gambling lords are always one step ahead. In many cases, there are a lot of illegal cockfights or gambling that are seized by the authorities, but these gambling lords are just erasing their competitors while the authorities are getting fresh image from the public because of the seized operations they've accomplished. The public are just blinded from what is really happening behind the scenes, what they're getting are just the small fishes who are sacrificed for the protection of the big fishes. Quite unfair, isn't it? But that's the world we're living. In addition, the authorities involved with illegal gambling benefit by receiving a payment of a lot of money because they are considered to have helped the operation. This is why there is still a lot of illegal gambling, even traditional gambling, often found in many countries, growing without being known by the authorities who want to eradicate it. And if there is a successful operation, it is not a big operation because for the large operation, the information has leaked and the gambling ruler had escaped before the operation began. While the public already knows if there are authorities behind the gambling rulers, unfortunately, they cannot do much because the public does not have the power to pressure the authorities.
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Cock fighting is not a luck based game, rather I will call it a game that cruel people love to play and bet on it. I think it's still a luck based game because you can't say who's going to win the fight since the involved is animals. It's not the typical betting game wherein we can somehow predict the winner based on their previous games. If you ask me, I will never be able to even watch this bloody game. How do people get amusement seeing these cock fight games? Also, can people sleep if they have won money on gambling on the blood of cocks.
Same here. But there are many people who think this game is enjoyable and satisfying to watch, especially if you're the owner of the cock. It's cruel but as long as it is not prohibited, then this kind of gambling will continue to exist.
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December 08, 2022, 09:38:15 AM |
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I thought all forms of gambling are prohibited in the Muslim religion? In any way... I have watched some Cock fighting in real life, not in a gambling setting.. but on a farm and it is not something that I would bet on. The Cock fighting sport remains legal in Puerto Rico and in such countries as the Philippines and the Dominican Republic, where cockfighting clubs operate around the country. The Animal Anti-Cruelty organizations will object to any kind of gambling that are done, where animals are harmed or killed for Sports betting. There are more than enough Sport to gamble on, without having to harm animals ....so let's keep it that way. And I'm sure it's going to be that way in those places we are making our bets, and not only because the Animal Anti-Cruelty organizations involvement. I believe, many gamblers might leave the site that started allowing bets where animals can be harmed or even killed. So, morals aside, it wouldn't be the best decision, business-wise, to start accepting such bets.
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Cock fighting is not a luck based game, rather I will call it a game that cruel people love to play and bet on it. I think it's still a luck based game because you can't say who's going to win the fight since the involved is animals. It's not the typical betting game wherein we can somehow predict the winner based on their previous games. If you ask me, I will never be able to even watch this bloody game. How do people get amusement seeing these cock fight games? Also, can people sleep if they have won money on gambling on the blood of cocks.
Same here. But there are many people who think this game is enjoyable and satisfying to watch, especially if you're the owner of the cock. It's cruel but as long as it is not prohibited, then this kind of gambling will continue to exist. Not all the time its a luck base because if you already played a lot of cock fighting by just seeing the body of the rooster you can say that it has a good body because all of the cock fighter are gamblers at the same time so if you just bet a cock fight without having a knowledge how to identity a good rooster fighter sure you will lose the game, Next is if you are the breeder and take care with the rooster is you can give all your best to give a good quality of fighter and of course the same with the boxing after all the training it comes and it wins gives a different celebration to you.
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December 08, 2022, 12:38:45 PM |
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Cock fighting is not a luck based game, rather I will call it a game that cruel people love to play and bet on it. I think it's still a luck based game because you can't say who's going to win the fight since the involved is animals. It's not the typical betting game wherein we can somehow predict the winner based on their previous games. If you ask me, I will never be able to even watch this bloody game. How do people get amusement seeing these cock fight games? Also, can people sleep if they have won money on gambling on the blood of cocks.
Same here. But there are many people who think this game is enjoyable and satisfying to watch, especially if you're the owner of the cock. It's cruel but as long as it is not prohibited, then this kind of gambling will continue to exist. Left to me alone i see nothing wrong with this kind of game ones it comes to entertainments aside the gambling that comes in with it but the regulatory body under livestocks will not tolerate this because it's serves as an abuse to the right needed to be given to the cocks involved in a fight against each other to the point of death, because many of us don't know the extent to which cock fight can went as brutal as possible which sounds a violation of their right for a living.
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December 08, 2022, 08:31:17 PM |
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Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia
In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.
It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit
This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?
Cockfighting's a staple game in my country as well. It came to a point where all fathers here will get stereotypically berated as cockfight breeders or bettors at one point. I can see other animals being made to fight for profit as well because it's been ingrained in our entertainment even during ancient roman times. What I just can't take is illegal dog fights that sad to say are still active at this point in some parts of the world. If you ask me, I will never be able to even watch this bloody game. How do people get amusement seeing these cock fight games? Also, can people sleep if they have won money on gambling on the blood of cocks.
Same here. But there are many people who think this game is enjoyable and satisfying to watch, especially if you're the owner of the cock. It's cruel but as long as it is not prohibited, then this kind of gambling will continue to exist. Well some people just get off from seeing brutality sometimes. That's why boxing is a sport and wrestling is a craft. As per animals I draw the line with dogs. Cockfights are a little gross but it will grow on you the more you visit dens and betting houses. I guess that's what happened to me.
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December 08, 2022, 08:43:15 PM |
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Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm.
If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight. And this game can be integrated into a programmable form into online gambling Luck is a factor in everything, but compared to purely luck-based games, cock fighting is definitely not one of them. It can be compared to MMA fighting, you are right, but the big difference is that MMA fighters voluntarily take part in the event, while roosters are basically forced to participate. In gambling you can not stand at any point thay you will win gamblling, from understanding i have to note that gamblling is something we know that doesn't work out with a professional predictor, so what can make gamblling to be successful or to become or bring wining is the grace which make some people predicte same game and another person yry to interchange it's prediction and with the little changing of the features gambling the person might be lucky to win.
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December 08, 2022, 10:12:29 PM |
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Come on you can't be serious? How do you enjoy seeing animals fighting and getting killed and you enjoy it ! If you are a real muslim you know that any kind of gambling or hurting animals is forbiden to do without any excuse
Hahaha.... Don't make me Laugh out my ass!! How do you assume peeps in here? Like you really think that everyone is a Muslim? Just as you are? .... having that as a bad take can't justify another person or condemn them either. That's not a legalized stuff; it's just something you get during the southern-fun peripherals and it's practiced in those remote areas, ( not in Urban cities). Don't always have these keen interest of passin' your religious law to anyone, everyone.. except, maybe someone that believes in that. I'm a Christian though but (that isn't to create any diversity though),... Hold firm to what yunno and belief in it. Meanwhile, I enjoyed the last trip for a Scorpio fight ...lol Sandra 🧑
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December 08, 2022, 10:35:12 PM |
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Come on you can't be serious? How do you enjoy seeing animals fighting and getting killed and you enjoy it ! If you are a real muslim you know that any kind of gambling or hurting animals is forbiden to do without any excuse
Hahaha.... Don't make me Laugh out my ass!! How do you assume peeps in here? Like you really think that everyone is a Muslim? Just as you are? .... having that as a bad take can't justify another person or condemn them either. That's not a legalized stuff; it's just something you get during the southern-fun peripherals and it's practiced in those remote areas, ( not in Urban cities). Don't always have these keen interest of passin' your religious law to anyone, everyone.. except, maybe someone that believes in that. I'm a Christian though but (that isn't to create any diversity though),... Hold firm to what yunno and belief in it. Meanwhile, I enjoyed the last trip for a Scorpio fight ...lol Sandra 🧑 Well that's your opinion about enjoying the seen of making animals fighting eachothers till death. But i don't agree with it simply because it's disgusting me. When i talked about islam i only mentioned the islamic rules about these activities that they are forbiden since the OP said the cock fight was set in islamic country, i never said that I am a muslim or the opposite because it's pointless and we are in gambling section. You more than me know that in bitcointalk nobody gives a fuck about religions it's more about being honest and respectful. You are the only racist here by showing your hate to islam and muslims obviously. Nobody need to know if you are a Christian or whatever.
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I have seen this kind of betting many times when I'm traveling and mostly when watching TV. These days, people make Bets through various means that suit them. They uses these animals to fight and the ones that is very strong will string neck do survive the hurt that is always cause when the two heads of the ram collide together. This used to cause severe pains to these animals and the ones that are not string used to died because of internal bleeding and injuries caused from the collision. I don't enjoy think of game because of how painful it could be to the animals.
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