Cock fight game

[maydna]

But we must not let them continue to play cockfighting because it involves the lives of animals.

Are you really serious about that?

Can we apply that argument to poultry chickens that were every day killed for human consumption? Or you will say that it's another story because people need to eat every day regardless if it's a chicken or not?

I don't understand why you are against cockfighting because it involves the "lives" of animals but enjoys eating a chicken meal.

There's no Science or Math there.

That's different buddy. Poultry chickens that are killed for human consumption every day are those that are reared and used for consumption. But a chicken to play cockfighting will become a carcass when the chicken dies, although you can still eat it. It's completely different.

Maybe you enjoy playing cockfighting, and there is a different feeling when you see the cocks betting, getting injured, and some even dying in the middle of the match. But I don't, and go ahead if you like it.

well we eat them, i personally had ate some of these rooster when they die in the fight. but that was years ago.
most raiser of these cock fighters are sentimental that if their cock fighter won several times like a champ, they save its race and keep it alive even if its wounded severely. and then reproduce its race also.

they have their own community where they share the race of the chicken, they have their own market which these rosters are traded and traveled from island to island. they do have facebook groups for the raisers treating the animals as pets.

It may be like that. But today's era is different from the previous decades, where not many people care about the lives of everyone who lives. Those living in today's world think that betting using animals is ridiculous and should be banned. But the reality is that there are still several places in remote areas that hold this cockfighting bet, and it turns out that it can attract the attention of the people around the place. And with social media, the group can have its own community as you said.

But we must not let them continue to play cockfighting because it involves the lives of animals.

Are you really serious about that?

Can we apply that argument to poultry chickens that were every day killed for human consumption? Or you will say that it's another story because people need to eat every day regardless if it's a chicken or not?

I don't understand why you are against cockfighting because it involves the "lives" of animals but enjoys eating a chicken meal.

There's no Science or Math there.

That's different buddy. Poultry chickens that are killed for human consumption every day are those that are reared and used for consumption. But a chicken to play cockfighting will become a carcass when the chicken dies, although you can still eat it. It's completely different.

Maybe you enjoy playing cockfighting, and there is a different feeling when you see the cocks betting, getting injured, and some even dying in the middle of the match. But I don't, and go ahead if you like it.

The main point here is that why need to use them for Betting and fun when chicken are provided for meal ? I mean instead of using them to make us enjoy in gambling there are so much to choose from that does not involve any lives, this may sounds corny but I think like Dog fight and other form of animal fighting ? these animals needs to be treated fair , kill them to fed us and that is OK but using them for fun is far different to what needs to be.

Well, everyone's opinion will certainly vary, and I respect that. If I don't like it, but they do, that's up to them. And maybe this cockfighting bet will still exist in several other countries because this is traditional gambling where there are still many people who enjoy it and even have lots of cocks ready to fight to defeat all their enemies.

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[AicecreaME]

It would have been somewhat more acceptable if it had been organized by ferocious animals instead of cockfighting. But the animals by which they are organized are called domestic animals. As a result, if you gamble by harming those animals, there should be more pain than pleasure. Although those who have already involved themselves in such activities may have rejected the affection and love they have for the animals. Moreover, Animal Resources Department will never condone such activities.

I don't think its more acceptable if the animals that are fighting with one another because humans made them do so were the cruel ones. This is because despite being violent in nature, they are still living things that deserve to live peacefully in their natural habitat. Being subjected to fighting forcefully just for the sake of entertainment and betting isn't justifiable. It's unhumane. These kinds of cruelty should be stopped because animals aren't toys to be played with.

Human aren't the only ones who feel pain and suffering. Animals can feel those too. For sure if you were on the shoes of those game cocks and other animals that are required to fight for survival, you wouldn't feel amused.

[Betwrong]

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Not sure about other countries but looking on that perspective, the chance that whatever countries still facilitating this gambling might continue to bring this business.

The revenue which is written is a basis alone and not the actual amount. There are sides betting which
is no longer count plus the illegal places where this gambling can be performed.

With that number, involvement of some government officials is really anticipated, money
will move them since it's an easy side income for them.

I see. In that case Cock fight game will never be banned in countries with corrupt governments, no matter how much animal rights activists will be protesting. I'm no vegetarian myself, so I don't have the right to be that judgmental about the whole thing, but I would never bet on one animal to be killed by another. Even though I like to eat meat, I think it's over the edge.

[stadus]

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Not sure about other countries but looking on that perspective, the chance that whatever countries still facilitating this gambling might continue to bring this business.

The revenue which is written is a basis alone and not the actual amount. There are sides betting which
is no longer count plus the illegal places where this gambling can be performed.

With that number, involvement of some government officials is really anticipated, money
will move them since it's an easy side income for them.

I see. In that case Cock fight game will never be banned in countries with corrupt governments, no matter how much animal rights activists will be protesting. I'm no vegetarian myself, so I don't have the right to be that judgmental about the whole thing, but I would never bet on one animal to be killed by another. Even though I like to eat meat, I think it's over the edge.

That said, let's just respect each other despite the difference of our beliefs regarding animal cruelty. We already have our own guilt besides from these gambling which includes animals, and that is we're as much guilty also, but the difference is just it's not from cockfighting or any gambling that involves animals. Protesting against these culture is really pointless because the governments and other top personalities are riding with these kind of industry.

[o48o]

Then what's your solution to stop all this mess? Can you do something to stop the cultural activities that are legal in a country?
Don't act like that as in a country where cock fight is legal and many people support it, it will just continue.
Rather than stress yourself on how to stop it, you can just easily and simply ignore it.

You get same advice from nearly any country that has any injustices to correct, they could be injustice against humans or other animals. And that is to talk about it. Talk about it with your representatives, keep the conversation alive. Governments allowing this get more heat and incentives to act. Also organized boycots are one way to make a difference, to make them listen.

These things move very slowly. And it's up to all of us. More people will join, faster changes happen.

[capedbaldy]

That said, let's just respect each other despite the difference of our beliefs regarding animal cruelty. We already have our own guilt besides from these gambling which includes animals, and that is we're as much guilty also, but the difference is just it's not from cockfighting or any gambling that involves animals. Protesting against these culture is really pointless because the governments and other top personalities are riding with these kind of industry.

We certainly won't agree to animal cruelty but we don't know the origin of other cultures so we have to respect it, I've even seen a cockfighting game shown on television but I won't mention the country, I feel sorry for the animal but what can do if the game of cockfighting has been legalized in that country and even published on television. But I hope that cockfighting is not publicized and broadcast in a limited way because other countries don't deserve to watch the event.

[herurist]

It would have been somewhat more acceptable if it had been organized by ferocious animals instead of cockfighting. But the animals by which they are organized are called domestic animals. As a result, if you gamble by harming those animals, there should be more pain than pleasure. Although those who have already involved themselves in such activities may have rejected the affection and love they have for the animals. Moreover, Animal Resources Department will never condone such activities.

I don't think its more acceptable if the animals that are fighting with one another because humans made them do so were the cruel ones. This is because despite being violent in nature, they are still living things that deserve to live peacefully in their natural habitat. Being subjected to fighting forcefully just for the sake of entertainment and betting isn't justifiable. It's unhumane. These kinds of cruelty should be stopped because animals aren't toys to be played with.

Human aren't the only ones who feel pain and suffering. Animals can feel those too. For sure if you were on the shoes of those game cocks and other animals that are required to fight for survival, you wouldn't feel amused.

It just depends on everyone's views, it seems because there will definitely be those who agree and some who don't about this, especially for animal lovers who will indeed seem like torture by fighting chickens, but on the other hand, in my area, things like this are even entertainment. It has been around for a long time before it was even used as a gambling venue. because sometimes there are a number of things that can become culture or tradition which is always done when there are certain celebrations.

[dunfida]

It would have been somewhat more acceptable if it had been organized by ferocious animals instead of cockfighting. But the animals by which they are organized are called domestic animals. As a result, if you gamble by harming those animals, there should be more pain than pleasure. Although those who have already involved themselves in such activities may have rejected the affection and love they have for the animals. Moreover, Animal Resources Department will never condone such activities.

I don't think its more acceptable if the animals that are fighting with one another because humans made them do so were the cruel ones. This is because despite being violent in nature, they are still living things that deserve to live peacefully in their natural habitat. Being subjected to fighting forcefully just for the sake of entertainment and betting isn't justifiable. It's unhumane. These kinds of cruelty should be stopped because animals aren't toys to be played with.

Human aren't the only ones who feel pain and suffering. Animals can feel those too. For sure if you were on the shoes of those game cocks and other animals that are required to fight for survival, you wouldn't feel amused.

It just depends on everyone's views, it seems because there will definitely be those who agree and some who don't about this, especially for animal lovers who will indeed seem like torture by fighting chickens, but on the other hand, in my area, things like this are even entertainment. It has been around for a long time before it was even used as a gambling venue. because sometimes there are a number of things that can become culture or tradition which is always done when there are certain celebrations.

And we know that not all corners or places on the world would really be agreeing or do look for these things to be good but rather they would really be that too mindful when it comes to animal cruelty.There are indeed 

places which is totally against with animal cruelty and on the time that they do seeing off these things then they are starting to disgust or make out some criticisms about it but its true that this one
is really that on cultural side where there are countries had really get used to with these kind of activities or gambling ways on which using up some cock to fight for
the sake of entertainment + make out some betting, just let them be.

[Silberman]

It would have been somewhat more acceptable if it had been organized by ferocious animals instead of cockfighting. But the animals by which they are organized are called domestic animals. As a result, if you gamble by harming those animals, there should be more pain than pleasure. Although those who have already involved themselves in such activities may have rejected the affection and love they have for the animals. Moreover, Animal Resources Department will never condone such activities.

I don't think its more acceptable if the animals that are fighting with one another because humans made them do so were the cruel ones. This is because despite being violent in nature, they are still living things that deserve to live peacefully in their natural habitat. Being subjected to fighting forcefully just for the sake of entertainment and betting isn't justifiable. It's unhumane. These kinds of cruelty should be stopped because animals aren't toys to be played with.

Human aren't the only ones who feel pain and suffering. Animals can feel those too. For sure if you were on the shoes of those game cocks and other animals that are required to fight for survival, you wouldn't feel amused.

It just depends on everyone's views, it seems because there will definitely be those who agree and some who don't about this, especially for animal lovers who will indeed seem like torture by fighting chickens, but on the other hand, in my area, things like this are even entertainment. It has been around for a long time before it was even used as a gambling venue. because sometimes there are a number of things that can become culture or tradition which is always done when there are certain celebrations.

Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary.

[Sithara007]

Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary.

Yes. Cultural differences will be there. And therefore we need to refrain from imposing our views on others and respect their personal freedom. Irony dies a thousand deaths when someone sitting in the US or the EU wants to lecture on someone else who is part of a tribal community in Indonesia or Vietnam regarding animal cruelty. These people are practicing their customs for many thousands of years, suddenly some outsiders want them to stop doing that. And the same people who lecture them have no problem with animal cruelty that is going on in the mega corporate agrobusinesses in US/EU.

[ethereumhunter]

Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary.

Yes. Cultural differences will be there. And therefore we need to refrain from imposing our views on others and respect their personal freedom. Irony dies a thousand deaths when someone sitting in the US or the EU wants to lecture on someone else who is part of a tribal community in Indonesia or Vietnam regarding animal cruelty. These people are practicing their customs for many thousands of years, suddenly some outsiders want them to stop doing that. And the same people who lecture them have no problem with animal cruelty that is going on in the mega corporate agrobusinesses in US/EU.

I agree that there will be cultural differences because if we look at Asian countries, this cockfight is still frequently contested. This is difficult to stop because this tradition has existed since ancient times. And that will depend on each person who gambles because we also cannot impose our will on those still playing cockfighting, especially if most of the population there really likes playing cockfighting. We could get into trouble if we keep asking them not to play cockfighting and even if the government asks them to stop, it won't be easy either.

[AicecreaME]

Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary.

Yes. Cultural differences will be there. And therefore we need to refrain from imposing our views on others and respect their personal freedom. Irony dies a thousand deaths when someone sitting in the US or the EU wants to lecture on someone else who is part of a tribal community in Indonesia or Vietnam regarding animal cruelty. These people are practicing their customs for many thousands of years, suddenly some outsiders want them to stop doing that. And the same people who lecture them have no problem with animal cruelty that is going on in the mega corporate agrobusinesses in US/EU.

I agree that there will be cultural differences because if we look at Asian countries, this cockfight is still frequently contested. This is difficult to stop because this tradition has existed since ancient times. And that will depend on each person who gambles because we also cannot impose our will on those still playing cockfighting, especially if most of the population there really likes playing cockfighting. We could get into trouble if we keep asking them not to play cockfighting and even if the government asks them to stop, it won't be easy either.

Cultural differences really plays a part in cockfighting in various countries that allow this kind of gambling. Each countries have different traditions and culture which we can't really change, thus, we can't really force them to abandon their cockfighting habits most especially if their government permits this in their locality.

Although for sure there are types of organizations that fight against their cruel acts on animals. What we can do is to just advocate it if it's our principles as well and avoid engaging in it since we can't really impose our beliefs and idealogies to others.

[Pamadar]

Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary.

Yes. Cultural differences will be there. And therefore we need to refrain from imposing our views on others and respect their personal freedom. Irony dies a thousand deaths when someone sitting in the US or the EU wants to lecture on someone else who is part of a tribal community in Indonesia or Vietnam regarding animal cruelty. These people are practicing their customs for many thousands of years, suddenly some outsiders want them to stop doing that. And the same people who lecture them have no problem with animal cruelty that is going on in the mega corporate agrobusinesses in US/EU.

I agree that there will be cultural differences because if we look at Asian countries, this cockfight is still frequently contested. This is difficult to stop because this tradition has existed since ancient times. And that will depend on each person who gambles because we also cannot impose our will on those still playing cockfighting, especially if most of the population there really likes playing cockfighting. We could get into trouble if we keep asking them not to play cockfighting and even if the government asks them to stop, it won't be easy either.

To add up, even there's already a law against it, in some parts of third country places, traditions indeed are really hard to stop, people who are involved with cockfighting will continue to bring the fight illegally.

Knowing gamblers, they will find ways as both enjoyment and gambling is being catered
with each cockfighting activities are being held, either in a legal arena or even in a small
venue where illegal cockfighting is being catered.

[BitcoinPanther]

But we must not let them continue to play cockfighting because it involves the lives of animals.

Are you really serious about that?

Can we apply that argument to poultry chickens that were every day killed for human consumption? Or you will say that it's another story because people need to eat every day regardless if it's a chicken or not?

I don't understand why you are against cockfighting because it involves the "lives" of animals but enjoys eating a chicken meal.

There's no Science or Math there.

There is a huge difference between cockfighting and poultry chickens.  Poultry chickens are butchered because they are for human sustainability, they are used for human consumption while cockfighting is purely used for entertainment.  They both involved the lives of animals but the means of use is very different.  Besides slaughtered chicken has quick death while cocks used in cockfighting have to undergo a longer gruesome death.

There is actually a science there to explain why cockfighting is frowned upon while butchering poultry chicken is tolerated.  And there is a math that shows people who supports cockfighting and who don't. 

But all in all, I think it depends on the people's preference but what makes the difference between how inhuman both cockfighting and chicken slaughter is being discussed in this thread.

[minime0105]

The main point here is that why need to use them for Betting and fun when chicken are provided for meal ? I mean instead of using them to make us enjoy in gambling there are so much to choose from that does not involve any lives, this may sounds corny but I think like Dog fight and other form of animal fighting ? these animals needs to be treated fair , kill them to fed us and that is OK but using them for fun is far different to what needs to be.

How can you make the distinction? You may having the opinion that killing these animals for food is OK. But someone else maybe against that idea. How you are going to react if someone tells you that you should become vegetarian, because you are not allowed to kill animals for food? Let's respect everyone's individual freedom. If you are allowed to kill animals for food, others are also allowed to kill animals for the purpose of entertainment. The most important thing here is to refrain from imposing a false sense of morality over others.

Actually what you said right now is task of every other person to make it's conclusion and personal decision on what you can do with youyown animal, depending on what you have in mind, because from my understanding i believe that some people have theie own method or kind of involving also engaging yourself into something else. So i think that anyone that have something knows it's functions ans it depends on the individual.

[noormcs5]

But we must not let them continue to play cockfighting because it involves the lives of animals.

Are you really serious about that?

Can we apply that argument to poultry chickens that were every day killed for human consumption? Or you will say that it's another story because people need to eat every day regardless if it's a chicken or not?

I don't understand why you are against cockfighting because it involves the "lives" of animals but enjoys eating a chicken meal.

There's no Science or Math there.

That's different buddy. Poultry chickens that are killed for human consumption every day are those that are reared and used for consumption. But a chicken to play cockfighting will become a carcass when the chicken dies, although you can still eat it. It's completely different.

Maybe you enjoy playing cockfighting, and there is a different feeling when you see the cocks betting, getting injured, and some even dying in the middle of the match. But I don't, and go ahead if you like it.

The main point here is that why need to use them for Betting and fun when chicken are provided for meal ? I mean instead of using them to make us enjoy in gambling there are so much to choose from that does not involve any lives, this may sounds corny but I think like Dog fight and other form of animal fighting ? these animals needs to be treated fair , kill them to fed us and that is OK but using them for fun is far different to what needs to be.

I think we are mixing two different things here. Yeah, we get feed from these animals but that is something natural. Also, these animals are killed in a proper way and not tortured. In cock fight, the animals get injured, the blood is shed and they die in a manner that is too painful.

I don't think any normal human can bear to see such torture. Those who gamble and enjoy these tortures are not human in my point of view.

Consider for a moment that someone tortures us in this way. It's just not imaginable and beyond our thinking. 

[RILWAN]

Animal fighting is illegal in some region because using life animals such as a donkey or other game animals to gamble is seen as unfair treatment to those animals and one can get a jail term for that, that is why this type of games are not popular modern days gambling.

In my country animal right is in the law and one can not just use cock or any other animal to gamble at will.

[Wakate]

Animal fighting is illegal in some region because using life animals such as a donkey or other game animals to gamble is seen as unfair treatment to those animals and one can get a jail term for that, that is why this type of games are not popular modern days gambling.

In my country animal right is in the law and one can not just use cock or any other animal to gamble at will.

I have seen make animals and they are so interesting but the most painful part is that the animals involved suffer the injuries that is as a result of the fight. Cock fight is one of the funny animal fight I do see then when I was still tender. I can't still point out what usually cause their fight but suddenly, we could see two cocks fighting for no reason but I don't think that may be as a result their sex mate.
One of the most severe fight I had seen was two dogs fighting because of meal which was very obvious and serious.

[Quidat]

Animal fighting is illegal in some region because using life animals such as a donkey or other game animals to gamble is seen as unfair treatment to those animals and one can get a jail term for that, that is why this type of games are not popular modern days gambling.

In my country animal right is in the law and one can not just use cock or any other animal to gamble at will.

I have seen make animals and they are so interesting but the most painful part is that the animals involved suffer the injuries that is as a result of the fight. Cock fight is one of the funny animal fight I do see then when I was still tender. I can't still point out what usually cause their fight but suddenly, we could see two cocks fighting for no reason but I don't think that may be as a result their sex mate.
One of the most severe fight I had seen was two dogs fighting because of meal which was very obvious and serious.

Cockfight do involved on fighting against other male rooster which turns out that they are really that aggressive into each other.They wont really be fighting just because of that sex mate or something
in  correlation because it is really a male to male most of the time even on other animal betting that we do able to see.They cant just mixed up and make fights with male-to-female
which it would be understandable on that point.If people do find out that betting on these animal fights turns out to be entertaining then its their own preference.
Each country does have their own take and laws about this manner.

[lalabotax]

I have seen make animals and they are so interesting but the most painful part is that the animals involved suffer the injuries that is as a result of the fight. Cock fight is one of the funny animal fight I do see then when I was still tender. 

I don't know, but I never think that that kind of cock fighting is interesting. It is always sad to know they are forced to fight against it. Moreover, they suffer some injuries, but the people keep applauding and talking to fight. I know that most of the cocks are also trained and they get special treatment from the owners. But, it is also sad to know their force. That is why in many countries, cock fighting is really forbidden and illegal. Many raids are done due to this cock fighting in my area.