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I do see people come here and declare themselves as long term holders of bitcoin because they are holding for weeks to months; they are right because previously they were into intraday or sessional/trend trading which may not last for more than six months.
But, bitcoin's cycle is 4 year long which means your long term should cover at least one full cycle of bitcoin markets.
To enjoy the real benefits of bitcoin investments, you must plan up for covering 3 to 5 cycles of bitcoin markets. Waiting period of more than 10 years may sound unrealistic to many people but I like to suggest them to google to know about the real power of decade long holding of famous stocks.
Yeah, there were stocks which transformed long term holders to multi-millionaires for the investment of $100 to $1000. Luckily, we do not have to break our head to find the right stock for long term holding in this crypto space; it is only bitcoin but to get 1000x returns, we must learn patience.
For the people, who argue that they cannot lock $1000 for year then they should plan up for $50 or $100; that is very basic. If we stick with basics of investments then we can easily convert deep bear markets of bitcoin into moderate ones.
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Long term investments should be multi-year investments where the holders must be willing to put up with market fluctuation and avoid them as much as possible. They just need to be optimistic that in the long term bitcoin can provide good return for the holder even though no one can guarantee return. They shouldn't ignore risk, it's more important than aiming for big long-term gains.
However, there is nothing to force, they can be holders for 2-4 years, 3-5 years, or 10 years, the important one they know that bitcoin is the best investment in the long term.
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November 29, 2022, 10:32:18 PM |
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A long-term perspective is what makes Bitcoin investment to be a not do-or-die affair and one should buy Bitcoin with the money one can afford to forget for a very long time, so this requires a lot of patience to achieve. I agree with you on the 10-year investment cycle you mentioned and the waiting period becomes less stressful when you are not holding funds in Bitcoin that you will be needing for urgent needs but being set aside for good period. Giving Bitcoin a month or 1 year investment time frame may not give the desired profits results, as a matter of fact, you can lose your money investing for a short period base, but if it covers at least to cycle which is 4 years x 2 which equal 4 years, you can be guaranteed of making a fortune from a littler investment from this time, considering now that the price of Bitcoin is low. Not only Bitcoin, but other assets in the Bitcoin category such as Gold, and silver need long-term strong for good profits margin, I am and am still an advocate of long-term holding for profits maximization, but above all, one needs to do their own research to get a personal conviction before deciding to invest and to what period he/she is willing to wait.
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November 29, 2022, 10:37:10 PM |
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Long term investments should be multi-year investments where the holders must be willing to put up with market fluctuation and avoid them as much as possible. They just need to be optimistic that in the long term bitcoin can provide good return for the holder even though no one can guarantee return. They shouldn't ignore risk, it's more important than aiming for big long-term gains.
However, there is nothing to force, they can be holders for 2-4 years, 3-5 years, or 10 years, the important one they know that bitcoin is the best investment in the long term.
Actually you are right, some people misunderstand the scenario of long term investment in cryptocurrency, I'm referring us during the time Bitcoin were established, and people who happen to purchase Bitcoin at affordable price and kept for more years, they made a reasonable profit through the increment of Bitcoi. So long investment of for some years are best that can give an investor a mega profit due to bullrus of Bitcoin over the years.
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November 29, 2022, 11:16:27 PM |
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People must understand that making a profit here in crypto doesn't just come in just a few days unless you are in trading. But because we are talking about holding - this means that it takes months to years or even decades, from short-term to long-term holding. What is a short-term investment? If you’re making a short-term investment, you’re often doing so because you need to have the money at a certain time. If you’re saving for a down payment on a house or a wedding, for example, the money must be at the ready. Short-term investments are those you make for less than three years. https://www.bankrate.com/investing/best-short-term-investments/So if we are talking about long-term investment, that for sure it is more than that and it depends on how long we have to keep our investment running. Because this is a game of patience and sadly, not all have that winning strategy as they mostly fall into short-term.
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November 29, 2022, 11:50:40 PM |
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Many people mistakenly believe that long-term holding is just weeks or months because they see the hype of altcoins, most altcoins are hyped after launch and people also think bitcoin works similarly to altcoins but unfortunately bitcoin doesn't work like that. Luckily, we do not have to break our head to find the right stock for long term holding in this crypto space; it is only bitcoin but to get 1000x returns, we must learn patience. This is also part of the reason I choose to invest in bitcoin over stocks. Researching to invest in stocks that can bring profits in the long term is difficult because there are so many stocks that need to be analyzed and compared to choose from. But for the crypto market, it takes me only a little bit of time to choose a long-term investment, just choosing bitcoin and choosing the right time to buy is enough.
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November 29, 2022, 11:53:22 PM |
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There's no right approach as what matters here is, it should be effective for investors.
You can't just say to others that they should do this, should do that, should do, etc. because we all have different strategies.
Let others do their respective own way of how to take advantage of "long-term holding".
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November 30, 2022, 04:36:07 AM |
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Everyone already know Bitcoin has 4 year cycle or having event since they're look on the Bitcoin history where the ATH difference is 4 years, the first is 2017 and the next is 2021, so many people predict the next ATH will be on 2025. But is there any 100% guarantee Bitcoin will make new ATH on 2025? no one know, so just invest what you can afford to lose. I think the reason why Bitcoin daily volume trading is high because some people want to learn trading.
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November 30, 2022, 05:29:14 AM |
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I do see people come here and declare themselves as long term holders of bitcoin because they are holding for weeks to months; they are right because previously they were into intraday or sessional/trend trading which may not last for more than six months. I don't think they are right. As far as my understanding of hodling is concerned, I think these people are not hodlers. They are just keeping their Bitcoin inactive for a while after rounds of trading, but they're not hodlers. And weeks and months are not long term. Long term should be years. It is possible for a trader to lie low for months while the market is always red. But he is not necessarily shifting to hodling. He could get in once again anytime when the market is turning green already. Or it's possible he's just waiting for the swing. But he's not a hodler.
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November 30, 2022, 05:51:22 AM |
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bitcoin's cycle is 4 year long which means your long term should cover at least one full cycle of bitcoin markets.
Yeah, but many people get know about bitcoins only by the times of ATH hence they invest bitcoins at the end of bull market or at the beginning of bear markets and then blame bitcoins. Halving should be the factor that every investor must follow for the perfect timing of investment. If they miss a right timing then they still have second chance to correct that by leaving their positions open for more than 4 years. If we stick with basics of investments then we can easily convert deep bear markets of bitcoin into moderate ones.
People rush for profits which lead all of us experience high volatile. At the same time, when majority of bitcoin investors turn 'real' long term holders, I agree that we will have moderate bear market, who knows probably we may have relatively sideways market as well.
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To enjoy the real benefits of bitcoin investments, you must plan up for covering 3 to 5 cycles of bitcoin markets. Waiting period of more than 10 years may sound unrealistic to many people but I like to suggest them to google to know about the real power of decade long holding of famous stocks.
Its all about timing. New technologies always end up with market bubles. Same was with internet and dotcom bubble. If you invested in amazon in 1999, you doubled in 0.5 year, but than after a crash you went underwater for a decade to 2010. same was with intel but you break even after 20 years. Not even talking about stock of companies that failed during bear market (90% of them failed) So now is the question where is bitcoin. Maybe we have 1 more cycle, maybe 2, maybe 0. What if I tell you, we are about to enter a 3 wave bear market 2021-2031 after a 3 wave bull market, that we just ended (2009-2021)
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November 30, 2022, 09:02:10 AM |
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Everyone has basic criteria in designing investments, one of which is knowing coins that have good potential in the long term, risks and fluctuations cannot be ignored, because these are directly related to investments that involve capital. Bitcoin is one of the most talked about, not only for those who take part in investments, another reason may be because bitcoin has advantages in protecting investment values.
If the long-term accumulation is 5 to 10 years, then investing in bitcoin will be the best in providing benefits, without ignoring the risks and fluctuations that will occur along the way.
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November 30, 2022, 09:29:29 AM |
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Perhaps 10 years is a long waiting period for many people due to the short human life, but your words are accurate in view of the investments that have achieved great successes and heights during a period of 10 years (including Bitcoin, of course), but in my opinion, the amount of investment in the long term should be rather large So worth the wait so long. Also, the investment should be with money that you do not need only, otherwise you will find yourself forced to sell (even if it is at a loss) at the first financial problem you encounter.
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November 30, 2022, 09:58:52 AM |
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The problem does not lie in the ten years or more, but for you from time you can smooth without touching your reserves. How long can you live the life of poverty and you have thousands of investments in Bitcoin or others.
Also, bitcoin may not appear perfect as investment for all time or at least short term. For example, it is impossible for Bitcoin to rise several times during the next six months, so buying now or until the next April/2023 may not make Bitcoin rise strongly.
In the end, without an investment plan, you will not achieve profits.
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November 30, 2022, 04:12:10 PM |
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Perhaps 10 years is a long waiting period for many people due to the short human life, but your words are accurate in view of the investments that have achieved great successes and heights during a period of 10 years (including Bitcoin, of course), but in my opinion, the amount of investment in the long term should be rather large So worth the wait so long. Also, the investment should be with money that you do not need only, otherwise you will find yourself forced to sell (even if it is at a loss) at the first financial problem you encounter.
Not to mention unexpected circumstances which is why for me, it is not surprising to know that there are people selling their assets inspite of their plan of holding it for decades. Indeed, the money one should invest should be also an amount he can disregard no matter what happen but things just don't work as simple as that. There will be instances wherein investors would be 'forced' to sell in order to solve problems on ither aspects or concerns. 10years is a long interval and there are many things that may happen during that period. With that, I think long term holding simply means hold as long as you can; no exact span.
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November 30, 2022, 04:38:12 PM |
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To truly enjoy the benefit, yes one should just invest and hold for years and the timing of this bear bottom is the right moment to invest. After investing, let the 2025 bear market pass and wait again for the next bull. After this, I think the user will not panic anymore even if the price dips to 80% again.
Users claimed to be long-term holders, they probably just kept some on exchanges that they also trade to accumulate. Can't miss the opportunity.
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November 30, 2022, 05:43:23 PM |
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But, bitcoin's cycle is 4 year long which means your long term should cover at least one full cycle of bitcoin markets.
To enjoy the real benefits of bitcoin investments, you must plan up for covering 3 to 5 cycles of bitcoin markets. Waiting period of more than 10 years may sound unrealistic to many people but I like to suggest them to google to know about the real power of decade long holding of famous stocks.
It's good enough to make a long-term bitcoin investment scheme, but you also have to pay attention to the amount of investment made. For example holding five or ten years, meaning that bitcoin purchases can be made in accordance with the accumulation of capital owned, either using a gradual purchase formula or adjusting to ongoing market prices. Thus bitcoin holdings on long term targets will find great gains. If we look at the growth of bitcoin, then the four year cycle will reach the next ATH in the current year, then we will most likely enter proper accumulation in the next five or ten year holding period. As long as we have the ability to remain patient and not panic when market conditions weaken.
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November 30, 2022, 09:19:09 PM |
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To truly enjoy the benefit, yes one should just invest and hold for years and the timing of this bear bottom is the right moment to invest. After investing, let the 2025 bear market pass and wait again for the next bull. After this, I think the user will not panic anymore even if the price dips to 80% again.
Users claimed to be long-term holders, they probably just kept some on exchanges that they also trade to accumulate. Can't miss the opportunity.
There will always be panic during bear market, and that a normal scenario on any marker, the next bear will just be the same but on a different price level. The bear cycle is about to end, we have to grab this opportunity now and make some good investment, the next 3 years will all about recovery and probably bull market might finally come. If you are doing your thing now, buying Bitcoin and just hold it for a year, then you’re doing the right thing.
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I would agree that in order to consider yourself a long term holder of Bitcoin you have to hold through at least one 4-year cycle. I’m not talking being in Bitcoin but trading in and out and trying to sell the highs and buy the lows. I’m talking owning Bitcoin that hasn’t moved for 4 years. If you’ve done that, you can consider yourself a long term holder and bear market survivor.
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jossiel
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December 01, 2022, 08:14:08 PM |
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That's DCA is the suggested strategy for everybody whether you're a newbie or not. I also understand that long term in stocks is certainly long term and the gains are not that tremendous as what we're seeing in bitcoin.
I can understand how patient the people and investors there because when they say long term, they really mean it that it's an actual long term of holding and investing.
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