delete

[nutildah]

I'd suggest that if this forum does go the route of removing the alt-coin section, there should be an early announcement to allow some time for people to make some decisions.  My guess is that removal of these boards would have a very significant impact on the alt-coin markets and therefore will affect the investments of many.

Uh oh... Well I guess what I had in mind was more of a surgical removal of the ANN section, or else aggressive moderation in that subsection in general. I mean, that place is kind of its own Wall Street. Minus any sort of rules.

It gets far more traffic than the Alt main forum and its evident that the same people are running scams over and over, giving cryptocurrency a bad name in general.

There is some truly amazing innovation taking place there as well, but let's face it, most new coin developers are more interested in a payout than contributing to society as what I hope was bitcoin's original intention.

So I would kindly ask you to consider not slashing the whole Alternative Cryptocurrencies section in general for the sake of fostering advancement and growth in this budding science but perhaps allocate more resources towards investigating abuses being committed in the ANN subsection.

Just a suggestion from an avid fraud investigator. Aloha.

[jackjack]

Just remove the altcoin board altogether. It's nothing but a cesspool of shit.

Not the first time that I would have said much the same.
+1

+1
I think it's been a waste of space for a long time, and it's definitely grown to be much worse.

Here is another +1 ,sadly it won't help with the removal of the section.

+1

Honestly, I think we have enough support to remove it completely. I really need to finish my altcoin forum project to at least send the legit players somewhere, ya know?

I'll talk to my partner about jump starting the project...

+1 nuke that place
And add some mods if you really think altcoin threads will pop all over the forum

[BitCoinDream]

Just remove the altcoin board altogether. It's nothing but a cesspool of shit.

Not the first time that I would have said much the same.
+1

+1
I think it's been a waste of space for a long time, and it's definitely grown to be much worse.

Here is another +1 ,sadly it won't help with the removal of the section.

+1

Honestly, I think we have enough support to remove it completely. I really need to finish my altcoin forum project to at least send the legit players somewhere, ya know?

I'll talk to my partner about jump starting the project...

+1 nuke that place
And add some mods if you really think altcoin threads will pop all over the forum

I beg to disagree with all of U. Alt Coin section is the wild west of BitcoinTalk. It adds an extra flavour to it. How many forum u get on the internet where u see a million dollar+ is being raised in front of your eye ? This clearly shows that the people on BitcoinTalk have money and it attracts the advertisers. This is a known space, where SCAM takes place. Just Enter in your own Risk. Its better to leave this place semi-moderated.

Statutory Disclaimer: Except for Bitcoin, I only hold some Stellar and have an interest in holding some Ether too.

[BBmodBB]

Just remove the altcoin board altogether. It's nothing but a cesspool of shit.

Not the first time that I would have said much the same.
+1

+1
I think it's been a waste of space for a long time, and it's definitely grown to be much worse.

Here is another +1 ,sadly it won't help with the removal of the section.

+1

Honestly, I think we have enough support to remove it completely. I really need to finish my altcoin forum project to at least send the legit players somewhere, ya know?

I'll talk to my partner about jump starting the project...

+1 nuke that place
And add some mods if you really think altcoin threads will pop all over the forum

I beg to disagree with all of U. Alt Coin section is the wild west of BitcoinTalk. It adds an extra flavour to it. How many forum u get on the internet where u see a million dollar+ is being raised in front of your eye ? This clearly shows that the people on BitcoinTalk have money and it attracts the advertisers. This is a known space, where SCAM takes place. Just Enter in your own Risk. Its better to leave this place semi-moderated.

Statutory Disclaimer: Except for Bitcoin, I only hold some Stellar and have an interest in holding some Ether too.

funny stellar and ether are not even minable coins....!!!   

[BitCoinDream]

Just remove the altcoin board altogether. It's nothing but a cesspool of shit.

Not the first time that I would have said much the same.
+1

+1
I think it's been a waste of space for a long time, and it's definitely grown to be much worse.

Here is another +1 ,sadly it won't help with the removal of the section.

+1

Honestly, I think we have enough support to remove it completely. I really need to finish my altcoin forum project to at least send the legit players somewhere, ya know?

I'll talk to my partner about jump starting the project...

+1 nuke that place
And add some mods if you really think altcoin threads will pop all over the forum

I beg to disagree with all of U. Alt Coin section is the wild west of BitcoinTalk. It adds an extra flavour to it. How many forum u get on the internet where u see a million dollar+ is being raised in front of your eye ? This clearly shows that the people on BitcoinTalk have money and it attracts the advertisers. This is a known space, where SCAM takes place. Just Enter in your own Risk. Its better to leave this place semi-moderated.

Statutory Disclaimer: Except for Bitcoin, I only hold some Stellar and have an interest in holding some Ether too.

funny stellar and ether are not even minable coins....!!!   

I'm not a miner. So minability is not a criteria for me. I look for availability & usability.

- Stellar was available for free and now getting scarce.

- Ether pitches a great usability idea. But I wonder whether they'll be able to materialize that idea.

[jackjack]

Just remove the altcoin board altogether. It's nothing but a cesspool of shit.

Not the first time that I would have said much the same.
+1

+1
I think it's been a waste of space for a long time, and it's definitely grown to be much worse.

Here is another +1 ,sadly it won't help with the removal of the section.

+1

Honestly, I think we have enough support to remove it completely. I really need to finish my altcoin forum project to at least send the legit players somewhere, ya know?

I'll talk to my partner about jump starting the project...

+1 nuke that place
And add some mods if you really think altcoin threads will pop all over the forum

I beg to disagree with all of U. Alt Coin section is the wild west of BitcoinTalk. It adds an extra flavour to it. How many forum u get on the internet where u see a million dollar+ is being raised in front of your eye ? This clearly shows that the people on BitcoinTalk have money and it attracts the advertisers. This is a known space, where SCAM takes place. Just Enter in your own Risk. Its better to leave this place semi-moderated.

Statutory Disclaimer: Except for Bitcoin, I only hold some Stellar and have an interest in holding some Ether too.

So as long as a subject is "wild west", adds extra flavor, brings millions+ dollars users and brings advertisers then it should have a sub-forum in bitcointalk?

Great, I can't wait for the weapons and drugs subforums

[-ck]

So as long as a subject is "wild west", adds extra flavor, brings millions+ dollars users and brings advertisers then it should have a sub-forum in bitcointalk?

Great, I can't wait for the weapons and drugs subforums

Indeed, the gun-running, drug smuggling, slave trading, terrorist arms, paedophile forums of choice!

[justusranvier]

Indeed, the gun-running, drug smuggling, slave trading, terrorist arms, paedophile forums of choice!

That subforum already exists - it's called "Legal".

It's dedicated to the most successful group of gun-running, drug smuggling, slave trading, terrorist-arming pedophiles on the entire planet.

[iluvpie60]

Does it really need a nuke though?

Is it possible all that needs to be done is split the major altcoins into their own section then have the other section be the free for all?

What about limiting newbies to a few posts per day in altcoin section or something similar?

I thought newbies were only allowed to post in beginner section for the first 2 weeks right? I know that was changed but I don't see how that has helped? I feel like that made things worse everywhere.

Maybe if they post in another section they can only do it a few times per day instead of every 6 minutes?

[dserrano5]

Is it possible all that needs to be done is split the major altcoins into their own section then have the other section be the free for all?

Who decides what is a "major" altcoin? On what criteria? When is a free for all altcoin deemed to be promoted to the major section? And conversely, when does a major altcoin deserve a demotion to the FFA?

+1 on the alt subforum demolition.

[BitCoinDream]

Just remove the altcoin board altogether. It's nothing but a cesspool of shit.

Not the first time that I would have said much the same.
+1

+1
I think it's been a waste of space for a long time, and it's definitely grown to be much worse.

Here is another +1 ,sadly it won't help with the removal of the section.

+1

Honestly, I think we have enough support to remove it completely. I really need to finish my altcoin forum project to at least send the legit players somewhere, ya know?

I'll talk to my partner about jump starting the project...

+1 nuke that place
And add some mods if you really think altcoin threads will pop all over the forum

I beg to disagree with all of U. Alt Coin section is the wild west of BitcoinTalk. It adds an extra flavour to it. How many forum u get on the internet where u see a million dollar+ is being raised in front of your eye ? This clearly shows that the people on BitcoinTalk have money and it attracts the advertisers. This is a known space, where SCAM takes place. Just Enter in your own Risk. Its better to leave this place semi-moderated.

Statutory Disclaimer: Except for Bitcoin, I only hold some Stellar and have an interest in holding some Ether too.

So as long as a subject is "wild west", adds extra flavor, brings millions+ dollars users and brings advertisers then it should have a sub-forum in bitcointalk?

Great, I can't wait for the weapons and drugs subforums

Weapons & Drugs dont fall under CryptoCurrency. May be they find a sub-section under machine manufacturing and chemical forum respectively. The same reason Black Hat SEO & Negative SEO find sub-section under several SEO forum. Those are the wild west for those categories. For the same reason, a semi-moderated Alternative CryptoCurrency section should be under BitcoinTalk.

[nutildah]

I'm now on board for nuking the whole forum.

Way more damage than good coming out of this place in general now, nobody cares, so why not nuke the whole thing?

[jackjack]

For the same reason, a semi-moderated Alternative CryptoCurrency section should be under BitcoinTalk  CryptoCurrencyTalk

FTFY

[Minnlo]

I agree it needs cleaning up but Nuking it? You should think twice before you make a Decision like that because it will No doubt hurt this Forum and bitcoin itself.   All the altcoins end up being traded for BTC and spurs market activity and price with all the sales. If you Nuke the alt forum on the worlds most popular BTC site then you will drive BTC prices lower and lose tons of people. look at these stats.


      
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How many users do you think would drop from this site if you Nuke that area?  Think about your investments think about your BTC value.   I think if you nuke it the BTC price drops over a $100 in the first week.

Like it or not it would hurt everyone.  I say clean it up but leave it.

Nuking the whole altcoin section will lower than number of posts and number of active members here, but why will the bitcoin price drop by 20%? 

[Swordsoffreedom]

Nuking the whole altcoin section will lower than number of posts and number of active members here, but why will the bitcoin price drop by 20%?  

It might kill a few interested users in Bitcoin who also have an interest in altcoins
Also some in the community could read it as a form of censorship that was similar to when Bitcoin was new and was being ignored by other boards, and the topic couldn't even be discussed in hacker/overclocking forums.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ftioc/after_banning_bitcoin_discussion_for_a_long_time/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227288.0
http://www.overclock.net/t/1398181/welcome-to-the-distributed-computing-section

That said the section does need more moderators and cleanups.

[jackjack]

Nuking the whole altcoin section will lower than number of posts and number of active members here, but why will the bitcoin price drop by 20%? 

It might kill a few interested users in Bitcoin who also have an interest in altcoins
Also the forum could read it as a form of censorship that was similar to when Bitcoin was new and was being ignored by other boards and the topics wouldn't even be discussed such as hacker/overclocking forums.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227288.0
http://www.overclock.net/t/1398181/welcome-to-the-distributed-computing-section

That said the section does need more moderators and cleanups.

I don't think killing the interest of people only interested in profit through altcoins would be bad for Bitcoin...
(The goal of Bitcoin is not being worth $1000000000...)

[Swordsoffreedom]

I don't think killing the interest of people only interested in profit through altcoins would be bad for Bitcoin...

I'm with you on that I was talking about nuking the whole section and then banning all altcoin related discussion
It still's needs a place for people to talk about it but with more effective cleaning and moderation from users who want to touch that board.

[Lauda]

Here is a perfect example. Go to the Altcoin section right now.
There is a guy who made 4 threads about Monero being a scam, he and a few others are chatting up them with pure nonsense.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=751124.msg8477661#msg8477661
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=751095.msg8477693#msg8477693

Don't get me wrong. I'm not an active Monero supporter or anything. This is just one of the reasons why the cleanup and banning should be very aggressive. I don't even want to report such reports because of 2 reasons: 1) nobody will attend my report; 2) will probably be rejected, but the moderator is too soft.

[dserrano5]

I agree it needs cleaning up but Nuking it? You should think twice before you make a Decision like that because it will No doubt hurt this Forum and bitcoin itself.   All the altcoins end up being traded for BTC and spurs market activity and price with all the sales. If you Nuke the alt forum on the worlds most popular BTC site then you will drive BTC prices lower and lose tons of people.

Yeah that's because if altcoin sections are removed from bitcointalk.org, there is nowhere else in the internet where the altcoin discussion can take place, right?

[valvalis]

Yeah, we need some new reguler for altcoin too.
There are so many alt coin and a lot of them is scam.