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December 04, 2022, 04:37:13 PM
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I am writing to report that I have been subjected to harassment from a member of this community through email.

The person first contacted me via email, asking for my assistance in cracking a wallet. He did not disclose which wallet it was until he began saying that I move that balance.

The person sent me two signatures values (RSZ values), but he were unable to explain the relationship between the signatures or how they were generated.

As you may know, if the relationship between two signatures for the same public key is known, it is possible to recover the nonce and, subsequently, the private key.

However, this person did not provide any information about how the signatures were generated or how they were related to each other.

Initially, I believed that the individual was challenging me to solve a puzzle, as I enjoy solving such challenges.

As the conversation progressed, it became clear that the person was not knowledgeable about the subject he was discussing. I therefore decided to stop responding to their emails and set up a rule to automatically archive any future messages from him.

A few days later, the person began sending me personal messages through this forum, demanding that I give them their share of the wallet. At this point, I was unsure of what they were referring to, as he had previously not provided any information about the wallet in question. They also told me  urging me to check my email inbox, which it have multiple consecutive emails from him. Claiming the same.

I told him that i did not move any wallet, also that i don't know what he is talking about.

He start claming that i stolen "his" wallet. Before of this point he never mentions that it was his wallet.

The person has claimed to be the owner of a well-known wallet and he thinks that I transfer the balance of that wallet

There are several key facts to consider in this situation:

  • The wallet in question was previously involved in a crypto-scandal.
  • The person has been unable to generate a signed message to prove his ownership of the wallet. This raises the question of why he claim that it is "his" wallet?
  • The wallet still has a significant balance on other blockchains (approximately 1.5 million USD). If I was motivated by greed, why would I not have taken the funds from those other chains? Becuase i didn't crack that wallet in first place.
  • It is impossible to determine whether the wallet file is genuine or fake. (This wallet also has a wallet.dat file available aroun the internet)
  • The wallet file is publicly available and is being sold on various websites. Many people was attempting to crack the wallet file using thousands of GPUs.
  • It seems impossible to change this person's mind. No matter what I say, he continue to believe that I transferred the wallet.

I have been a member of this community for over a year and a half, and I primarily engage with posts related to puzzles and challenges. I am also the developer of a CPU tool called keyhunt (For puzzles), which is widely used by many members of this community.

Due to my financial difficulties, I am barely able to make ends meet. The recent harassment I have been subjected to has made it difficult for me to sleep well, I have been depressed. I have been considering seeking legal assistance but also i heve been considering end with my life, why i should end my life if supposedly I'm already a millionaire?

I am writing this post in this community because it is home to many talented and intelligent individuals.

What should I do? Please help

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December 04, 2022, 07:41:18 PM
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This sounds like Craig Wright claiming he owns Satoshi wallets and that he is satoshi.  If there is no proof of ownership there is a 99.9% chance that the claimant is not the owner.   If all the information about the wallet and even the .dat file has been made public (fake or real) it means as obviously stated many persons would be working on the solution.  Take puzzle 64 for example, hundreds of thousands of combined man hours, electricity and processing power went into finding a solution in the past 2 to 3 years, and to my knowledge we still dont know who solved it.  Many attention seekers make the claim, but where is the proof. This means we do not know who moved p64 and we would resonably not know who moved a publicly exposed .dat file balance.  Imagine, it could be the actual owner or some bot.

Alberto, keep your guard up, hopefully members of the community who are capable of assisting in any legal framework will come forward to assist.  I say dont sweat it, the burden of proof is on the person making what seems to be conjecture stemming from their failure to successfully break into that wallet
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December 04, 2022, 10:36:27 PM
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Send me the member's username through PM.

Edit: Also I noticed this thread is not on the Reputation board, it should be moved there.

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December 04, 2022, 11:16:19 PM
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Thank you both for reply.

About the reputation board, can I move it? I didn't find the option to do that.

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December 05, 2022, 01:58:19 AM
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Thank you both for reply.

About the reputation board, can I move it? I didn't find the option to do that.

Regards.

A moderator already moved it there, there is nothing you need to do now.

I have tagged the user in question with neutral with a link back to this topic, but your best course of action is to ignore him from here onwards. Suing someone for libel doesn't really work anywhere except in the USA, and even there, the case does not have much of a chance if the messages aren't public eg. on social media.

If it helps, you can post the addresses in question (only) in public so that the community can also verify that the address(es) are some random scammers' address via a website like https://www.bitcoinwhoswho.com/

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Due to my financial difficulties, I am barely able to make ends meet. The recent harassment I have been subjected to has made it difficult for me to sleep well, I have been depressed. I have been considering seeking legal assistance but also i heve been considering end with my life, why i should end my life if supposedly I'm already a millionaire?

I really really recommend you to take a break from Bitcoin puzzle/recovery and look for free/cheap mental health support offered by government or non-profit organization. Legal assistance probably will just waste your time and money, especially when you don't know nationality of the harasser.

What should I do? Please help

I don't know how much about legal/law, but personally i would recommend you to do these
1. Report the PM with reason "unsolicited pm" or "harassment"
2. Block/ignore this user from all communication medium you use (this forum, email, etc.).

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Due to my financial difficulties, I am barely able to make ends meet. The recent harassment I have been subjected to has made it difficult for me to sleep well, I have been depressed. I have been considering seeking legal assistance but also i heve been considering end with my life, why i should end my life if supposedly I'm already a millionaire?
It's a random person on the internet sending random emails with random files. Why are you caring so much? Learn from the Bot how to grow a thickskin and let others do whatever they want.

About forum PM, feel free to post these in public. If it looks like life threatening harassment then many users will tag that account. The account will be banned eventually for breaking forum rules of sending unsolicited PMs.

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December 05, 2022, 06:59:37 PM
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Due to my financial difficulties, I am barely able to make ends meet. The recent harassment I have been subjected to has made it difficult for me to sleep well, I have been depressed. I have been considering seeking legal assistance but also i heve been considering end with my life, why i should end my life if supposedly I'm already a millionaire?

Honestly, I would take this very seriously and you should react as soon as possible and seek adequate help. No matter how difficult your current situation seems to you, it is certain that there is a way out of the problem. take it seriously, because obviously, this is your call for help.

if everything is as you say, it seems that you took the whole thing too personally. To me it looks like another way for fraudsters to get money. they don't care. ignoring is perfectly fine.

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The recent harassment I have been subjected to has made it difficult for me to sleep well, I have been depressed. I have been considering seeking legal assistance but also i heve been considering end with my life, why i should end my life if supposedly I'm already a millionaire?

I took time to read through your thread, but this section of your statement I quoted above, I am having difficulty to comprehend it. Were you threatened by him?
I mean if I am too sure that I didn't scam lovesmayfamilis and she kept sending series of messages that I cheated or scammed her, how would that translate into considering to take my life?
Do you know the alleged personality in person? Does he reside in your neighborhood?

Well, if they believe you moved the money in the wallet, they should be one ones to first make a thread against you here in the forum. If your life is not threatened, consider to ignore them.

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First, thank you all for reply.

If it helps, you can post the addresses in question (only) in public so that the community can also verify that the address(es) are some random scammers' address via a website like https://www.bitcoinwhoswho.com/

The address is 1LfV1tSt3KNyHpFJnAzrqsLFdeD2EvU1MK

Yes that person claim to be the owner, that is very funny.

It's a random person on the internet sending random emails with random files. Why are you caring so much?

Well at the beggining I really don't care about it, but He start talking about some sue and he start to be more rude in his emails.

Check:



that email keep going like a bible...

And here is the last one, this last email pushme to  open this topic.



That "thank you and Kind regards" make me laugh a bit, but i was shaking while i read it


Honestly, I would take this very seriously and you should react as soon as possible and seek adequate help. No matter how difficult your current situation seems to you, it is certain that there is a way out of the problem. take it seriously, because obviously, this is your call for help.

Yes I've talking with one of my closest friends I'm more calm now. Thanks

if everything is as you say, it seems that you took the whole thing too personally. To me it looks like another way for fraudsters to get money. they don't care. ignoring is perfectly fine.

Yes, like I said before, at te beggining i don't care but I start to worry about it becasue his emails.

how would that translate into considering to take my life?

those are thoughts that sometimes appear, but I discard them and try not to think about it, that way out is for cowards and I am not one of them.

Do you know the alleged personality in person? Doesn't he reside in your neighborhood?

No, i really don't know where is he from.

Well, if they believe you moved the money in the wallet, they should be one ones to first make a thread against you here in the forum. If your life is not threatened, consider to ignore them.

I will ignore him from now.

Again thank you to all for reply.

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Well at the beggining I really don't care about it, but He start talking about some sue and he start to be more rude in his emails.

The lawsuit he has threatened is frivolous, and you have no cause for concern since his arguments are ridiculous.
If he starts making more serious threats, I suggest you report him to the authorities. You also have every right to file a lawsuit against him for harassment. You should consult a lawyer before you take that step, but I think it would be perfectly legal and appropriate.

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Due to my financial difficulties, I am barely able to make ends meet. The recent harassment I have been subjected to has made it difficult for me to sleep well, I have been depressed. I have been considering seeking legal assistance but also i heve been considering end with my life, why i should end my life if supposedly I'm already a millionaire?

Your story is truly heartbreaking to read. Because of the technicalities involved, I have no idea how all this cracking up is done. What surprises me the most is that you planned to take your own life because you're depressed about everything. Nothing is worth considering suicide; everyone goes through hard times and difficulties in life. I understand how you feel, but you must be able to control your mental health in order to prevent it from taking control of you. Life is valuable, and nothing justifies taking your own life. Please take a break and don't think about it because you know you never did anything you've been accused of by the user.

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December 06, 2022, 03:15:32 AM
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Do you think there is a possibility you are being threatened by someone not for the 'stolen' Coins but for developing keyhunt?  Anyone who could feel threatened by your tool and act like this to try and bring you down mentally?  Just a thought.

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This is straight up harassment.  If I was in your boots, I would ignore the dude but keep the E-mails and Private Messages.  Do not delete anything this person says.  Particularly if they incrementally add pressure every message you receive.

I am afraid there is no way they can prove you moved anything.  It looks much more like an orchestrated attack to make you mentally vulnerable enough to send them at least part of 'their share' and then continue to harass you.  Otherwise there is no way I can explain what they are doing.  Makes no sense.

It is not the first time I hear about this magic 'crackable' Wallet being shared and sold around with random value strings.  Since you can confirm it is publicly available and I suppose it was way before this person started messaging you, even if they can prove ownership of the Wallet now, there is no way they can prove you were the one stealing the funds out of it, can they.

Therefore I suggest you start collecting yourself, relaxing and ignoring the harassment.  Stop stressing out and take all these dark thoughts straight to the trash bin.

Mind sharing the date of your first ever communication?

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December 06, 2022, 01:03:31 PM
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Well at the beggining I really don't care about it, but He start talking about some sue and he start to be more rude in his emails.
He knows your email address, forum profile. Does he know your real name, home address, bank account details or any sort of personal details or any of the person your know who is common between you and him?

I did not see such information was discussed on the email. He can not do any shit to you.

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December 06, 2022, 03:11:52 PM
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The lawsuit he has threatened is frivolous, and you have no cause for concern since his arguments are ridiculous.

Yes right now I am thinking the same

You also have every right to file a lawsuit against him for harassment. You should consult a lawyer before you take that step, but I think it would be perfectly legal and appropriate.

Well since I don't know where is he from, i think that will somekind of useles because that what mention in some other reply look:

Legal assistance probably will just waste your time and money, especially when you don't know nationality of the harasser.


Please take a break and don't think about it because you know you never did anything you've been accused of by the user.

Thanks you, that is what i will do, I ask for this week as vacations one month ago. I am more in calm now.

Do you think there is a possibility you are being threatened by someone not for the 'stolen' Coins but for developing keyhunt?  Anyone who could feel threatened by your tool and act like this to try and bring you down mentally?  Just a thought.

Interesting thought, it never imagine that, but i really don't know and there is now way to know that.

Mind sharing the date of your first ever communication?

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He knows your email address, forum profile. Does he know your real name, home address, bank account details or any sort of personal details or any of the person your know who is common between you and him?

Maybe just my name, i was careless i didn't notice that my email send my name in every mail, i already fix it. but that is some other point to me, If I am supposedly a scammer or a thief, why do I publish my name in my emails, why i should use my personal email insteat of some other fake email?

In any case i'm cleaning any PI from me and reviewing all my networks all this becasue i don't want this kind of harassment in the future.

Thank you all guys for reply, seriously the replies means a lot for me, it they give me more clearity on this stuff

I will be offline almost this week, im trying to get relax from this stuff, i get one week vacations from my job.

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December 06, 2022, 04:46:17 PM
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^ since you're okay now, don't think too much about such things again and in future if the same kind of incidents repeats from same or others try to ignore and don't take it to heart.

Forum PM allows inappropriate messages can be reported to admins and they even get banned apart from tags so don't forget to use the feature in case if you feel the message you received is inappropriate.

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December 06, 2022, 07:23:49 PM
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Maybe just my name, i was careless i didn't notice that my email send my name in every mail, i already fix it. but that is some other point to me, If I am supposedly a scammer or a thief, why do I publish my name in my emails, why i should use my personal email insteat of some other fake email?

In any case i'm cleaning any PI from me and reviewing all my networks all this becasue i don't want this kind of harassment in the future.
It's a good thing you're taking your privacy more serious now. The internet is like a cesspool and you'll find all kind of characters here; the bad, the very bad and the ugly, it's best to have your personal information off it so it doesn't get into any hands at all.

As others have said, I'll probably not think too much of a random stranger on the internet. Anyone can threaten you, that's easy to do.

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December 06, 2022, 10:31:39 PM
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It's the internet you can't stop people trying extortion. Don't get stressed, you've got to forget incidents. If you're barely making ends meet due to financial difficulties join a signature campaign. You're a Full Member you'll be selected by campaign managers, join one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0

I am writing to report that I have been subjected to harassment from a member of this community through email.

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It's a random person on the internet sending random emails with random files. Why are you caring so much? Learn from the Bot how to grow a thickskin and let others do whatever they want.
Some people are bothered by shit like this, whether it's rational or not.  I would also recommend to OP to see if he can get some mental health treatment, because if suicide is seemingly an option because a random nobody on the internet is bothering you, you're obviously in a fragile state.

But OP, keep in mind that this is probably some crackpot who has no way to harm you, no matter what he's saying.  Legal counsel isn't likely to be of help and will only be an expense you probably can't afford.  Just take a deep breath, take a break from the internet for a while if that's an option, and try your best not to let this jackoff get under your skin like he has.  And I've seen some good advice from other members already, so starting up this thread was a good idea on your part.

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December 07, 2022, 08:14:35 AM
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Well at the beggining I really don't care about it, but He start talking about some sue and he start to be more rude in his emails.
He knows your email address, forum profile. Does he know your real name, home address, bank account details or any sort of personal details or any of the person your know who is common between you and him?

He's no stalker or anything, just another forum user.

I recommend negative tag over extortion.

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