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December 08, 2022, 09:03:08 AM
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.
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December 08, 2022, 09:20:43 AM
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

As long as it can justify the amount the casino have no business what I do in my life,if I gamble it all and leave my family starving to death or I have a lot of other incomes,like I may have mining,I may have objects that I have given for rent,the casinos should not give a damn about what I do and as long as I provide solid proof like the salary statement in your case here they should immediately approve them and let the withdraws go through.

If a worker from a casino want to go further,they will only lose these type of clients,he will go to other casinos who mind their own business and don't go further once the source is verified.

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December 08, 2022, 09:31:19 AM
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

I think the problem is more evident when they would also ask you for a statement of your account and not just proof of your salary.
Because from that it would emerge that you spent a part on "classic" expenses to support yourself/family, go shopping at the grocery, pay bills, etc...
At the same time how did you manage to deposit the same amount in the casino?
in any case it is something very subtle.
you can always prove the bottom line of your earnings, and I don't think any casino should declare it as "unreliable".
Obviously if they want to make a scam they can declare anything to deny a payment....

in any case even if you are violating the "principle of gambling for fun" this is not a good reason to close your account or deny you a withdrawal if you win Roll Eyes

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December 08, 2022, 09:34:56 AM
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If you only even provide that amount and you are collecting just that amount which is $500 as monthly salary, that should not be a reason for a casino not to enable you to withdraw, if the casino do not alllow you to withdraw, that is a scam. Why casinos not ask of proof of income before deposit, but asking when withdrawing. I do not always like casinos for easy registration and deposit and a hard way of withdrawing.

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December 08, 2022, 10:56:32 AM
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

Casino will not do this because they will just limiting there customers with them for that bullshit reason that doesn’t concern them. Casino doesn’t care if you are playing with all your money from your salary because they are business and not a financial manager that guides there customer about there spending. Requiring proof of income to customers just for withdrawal will never justify what it will be used for. KYC is already getting to much conflict on many customers so what’s more for this extra requirement for withdrawal.

Casino asking for this kind of documents is surely just want to have reason for players to not withdraw the amount. Typically casino that has low bankroll to let go withdrawal. This will not gonna pass no ,atter what the reason casino will justify for applying this rules.

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December 08, 2022, 11:03:19 AM
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.
I don't think that they'll mind how much you're going to put even if it's the whole income or salary you make. What they just want to see is that you've got a proof of income. I guess you've made this topic because you've seen also another thread wherein the OP has been asked for proof of income by another known casino. If a gambler sends all of his salary to the casino, I can think of many factors.
1. It could be his other income and there's still got enough money for his needs.
2. He's single and living with his parents that doesn't need to think much about priorities.
3. He's got a lot of savings so whether he wins or not with that amount he deposits, he's still going to live well enough.

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December 08, 2022, 11:14:42 AM
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

A casino asking you to prove your income is the dumbest requirement I've ever heard of.
If some crypto casino demands from you to comply with such ridiculous rules in order to allow you to withdraw your earnings, this definitely smells like a scam. What's next? The casino asking you to prove that you are healthy and that you don't have any "forbidden diseases"? Grin
The only type of private businesses, that can ask you to prove your income are commercial banks(when you apply for a consumer loan or mortgage).
Any other business asking you for your salary or income is doing something sketchy.
Stating that such "proof of income" requirement has something to do with a "responsible gambling" policy seems like total BS to me.
 

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December 08, 2022, 11:33:55 AM
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.
I do believe there is no any site will ask our proofs of income (source of income) if we only deposit $500 every month. It's different when you deposited $500 but you managed to win huge money on that site, they might ask your KYC and other things. But that's also happened on few sites, most of popular sites won't even ask you anything even you won huge amount from their site
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December 08, 2022, 11:37:55 AM
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

Let me ask if it is just a curiosity by you or actually somne casino asked you for this? If it's the second please publish here their names so we can shame them.

I would never accept such a requirement because , as someone already said, what I do in my life os no casino business; I can understand they may adduce anti money laundering reasons and stuff like that but if those were the real reasons they should ask before accepting my money as deposits and and not only at the moment I ask for a withdrawal.

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December 08, 2022, 12:12:29 PM
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Let me ask if it is just a curiosity by you or actually somne casino asked you for this? If it's the second please publish here their names so we can shame them.
There will be no other reason this question is asked than being curious, some people knows how gambling sites can easily seize customers money during withdrawal. I think that is the reason for the question. I do not think gambling sites can be that not professional to request for statement of account or proof of income than not been to only make sure the person is earning the money or not.

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December 08, 2022, 01:59:18 PM
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The casino should be able to accept it because you have provided proof of the salary you get every month. But if the casino suspects unusual activity on your account, they may ask for more evidence to show you own the account. This is to avoid anything unwanted by the casino and is also due to pressure from the regulators to find out who owns the account at the casino.

And I don't think that violates the principle of gambling for fun because you may already be using gambling to earn money or some other source of income. But I don't know, I'm also not sure about this and maybe you should ask each casino.

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Where did your question come from?

POI's part of verification, there is nothing to do with the wagering or deposit you're made. Casino never restricted any money to their business, even with only 10$ you still can gamble with them.

This is the first time, someone ask this question.

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December 08, 2022, 02:08:15 PM
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing,
Any casino you are speaking of in particular? proof of income being asked is usually when a red flag has been found on an account, IMO. I am sure you would not getting this proof to be submitted very commonly.

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your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.
What they will accept, only they will know.

Also if you feel this breaks the principle of gambling for fun, then dont gamble or keep a limited budget for gambling every month and dont overdo it. Just because you have to show your ledger to someone does not mean you are violating a principle that you have been keeping to yourself. If you feel like you have been lying to yourself, then you have to fix that problem from your side.

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Where did your question come from?

POI's part of verification, there is nothing to do with the wagering or deposit you're made. Casino never restricted any money to their business, even with only 10$ you still can gamble with them.

This is the first time, someone ask this question.

Yeah, I only saw this kind of requirements on loans or purchasing items in-terms since they will need to make sure that customers will have the capability to pay the borrowed money before the due date occur.

Gambling doesn’t gives liability to all there users so this document is really not necessary to be relate on gambling unless casino offers loans to there players for bankroll then this document is important in regards to that matter.

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If casinos were that strict about whether you and your family will have enough money to get you through the month, they would throw out or ban many of their clients. But they don't. And they don't mind you gambling your life savings on their games. The more people do it, the better it is for them. The gamble for fun slogans and the "stop when the fun stops" is just them trying to look good in the eyes of the general public and their regulators. When has a casino ever asked someone if they are sure they want to gamble, and how that will affect the financial stability of their family?

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The question is why the gambler only give a proof of making $500/month? he can create fake paycheck since it's really easy to do that. I don't think there's a stupid gambler who blatantly just post his paycheck because he have thought this before.

However let's say it's really true, the casino will allow if their gamblers gamble all of his salary because they have own responsibility and they're using their money, not ask money or someone.

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Where did your question come from?

POI's part of verification, there is nothing to do with the wagering or deposit you're made. Casino never restricted any money to their business, even with only 10$ you still can gamble with them.

This is the first time, someone ask this question.

Yeah, I only saw this kind of requirements on loans or purchasing items in-terms since they will need to make sure that customers will have the capability to pay the borrowed money before the due date occur.

Gambling doesn’t gives liability to all there users so this document is really not necessary to be relate on gambling unless casino offers loans to there players for bankroll then this document is important in regards to that matter.

The question probably comes from this kind of thread as well. Someone asked about Stake asking for the source of funds. 

If you have a ton of money in the casino wallet yet you only have $500/month as pay check from your job, don't you think the casino will suspect something doesn't add up?


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I haven't experienced any verification like this and might never will. This will certainly limit the money that the casino is making given that they are restricting their gamblers to spend more which is the opposite of the way that they makes money. Gamblers now are hating KYC and adding this will be an absolute red flag to gamblers because I think it exceed the verification that normal casino wants since it requires the payroll which is a sensitive very sensitive information. If a casino requires this kind of verification, for sure they are killing their own business at it's own.
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

As long as it's your money and you work to earn it then it's no man's business to query you regarding how you spend them, but i also want to believe that gamblers found in this kind of category are few on a rare case because no one will get the entire salary into gambling without leaving anything left for feeding, transportation and other emergency needs, and if such gambler also exist then using a kyc free casinos will be the nest option for such gambler and also he will need to read and understand their privacy policy before gambling.



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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

I believe that it should not be a problem, as long as it is my money neither the government nor a casino on internet should not interfere on how I decide to spend it.

There are some situations where this scenario where someone gambles all their money could happen, a young adult which is dependent on their partner or their family could perfectly spend their monthly income on casinos. It would be different if in the terms of service of that specific casino would state that they will reserve the right to suspend accounts of people who are spending recklessly on gambling (which would be unlikely to happen) again, they would need to keep in consideration the personal situation of the user and I doubt any service would go so far to analyze users.


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