Proof Of Income Will This Pass

[pungopete468]

If you got your income together legally, then it shouldn't be a problem, right? I also don't think gambling sites have the right to go into much more detail about this. And then there, how is a gambling site going to check something like that? If they want to elaborate on that, it's usually a sign that you can't trust the site and that they're stretching things. Too bad, because it should only be for administration and not to perform all kinds of checks. After all, a gambling site has absolutely no power and authorization to carry out such checks.

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[carlfebz2]

Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

I'm not sure about it but I don't think the gambling site will be that keen to review your expenses upon your issuance of Proof of Income. It's all a matter of self-principle. You yourself feel like you're doing too much and have begun to spend most if not all of your money in gambling. The casino could care less about where you put your money. They just need the proof of income to make sure you are not a robot or a hacker if I'm not mistaken. So as a for fun gambler, if you feel like you have already gone too far, so as to spend all your salary for gambling, maybe how the gambling site thinks of your expense report should be the least of your concern. You should have yourself checked to a therapist or a psychiatrist because that could be a defining sign you are addicted.

I would agree with the fact that the gambling company couldn't care less about where you spend your money, just where you got it from, thus the reason why they are asking about proof of income. And I also think the OP's question may be a bit deep-seated and could be an indicator that the person he is pertaining to is now at least subjected to gambling addiction, that's why he needs to be checked if ever. The casino wouldn't care if you spent 500 bucks or 500 thousand bucks on them, it's how you think about spending that money that would matter. if you think you are doing too much already, then maybe it's time to reconsider your choices and see if you can get help in a way or another. 

You are the only ones who could really help out yourself and the ones who could see whether you are already spending that much or not.When it comes to proof of income kind of thingy then i do believe that

houses would really be asking out on the time that it do trigger out their security measures or something that they are really that boggling on where those funds came from specially if we do talk about

bigger ones.As a centralized platform and do abide with some laws and regulations then they would really be at least caring out on where those funds came from and
this is where they do ask out those proof of income.

[Sanitough]

Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

i think it doesn't matter. because the casino only wants the reputation of the player and the casino to remain good.
all I know when the casino asks for proof of your salary is just to prove that you really put in $ 500 of your job salary. because what the casino fears every time you put money into the casino with the same amount every time is afraid if the money is the result of money laundering or corruption.
so if the casino has received proof of your salary they will be fine.

Right. The casino needs your proof of income for verification only to prove that you are not making money out from any fraudulence. So if you are making just the right income you have in your bankroll, then it won’t matter all, you will still be allowed to gamble anytime you want. The casino after all is only concern for their own reputation, and maybe not yours lol.

[RILWAN]

When you had a job for the monthly income from some companies over a period of 2 years. Then the account was enroll as the salary account. So then if you withdraw the money from casino it was seems to be the funds from your salary. Even it may not from the income of salary, this case make to pass such things due to the old transaction. Then it became easy to withdraw the gambling money. No need to pay separate tax for this. It’s best way to use the salary account for the gambling site and to win. When the pass of bank account was approved, it’s essential one for the gambling withdraw money from it.

I think what casinos are looking for from proof of income is to check whether the player pays the right tax or not from their winning from the casino am sure casinos only ask for such documents when the player already has a history of past big wins and withdrawals.

[Russlenat]

I want to ask first if there's a case before where a gambling site asks for proof of income. If yes, can you share it?

I think there's this thread in this section where stake asked the OP for proof of income.

If that thing will be asked of me, that's already too much since the gambling site has nothing to do with our source of income as long as we were able to make deposits on their site legally. They supposed should not care about that part of our personal life.

I would have the same opinion that the casino shouldn't worry and think of what we do in our personal lives. But if it's written on their books that it's one document that they have to ask to someone that might have some activities that they detected to check, one has just to be obliged to comply.

It’s part of KYC so they can have an assurance that we are not money launderers, so if we want to gamble at peace, we should comply whatever they ask for as long as it’s legal. And I think they don’t care if all our salary net goes to gambling, it’s in us that we should put limits when gambling.

[aioc]

Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

They will definitely accept that but not if you're salary is only $500 a month and you deposit $500 weekly that would make it questionable and the casino will ask you for more proof of income not only on your salary but other documents that will prove that you can sustain your bankroll and you are not working just to gamble, even if you're living with your parents there should be right allocation on all your basic needs.

[Jemzx00]

Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

They will definitely accept that but not if you're salary is only $500 a month and you deposit $500 weekly that would make it questionable and the casino will ask you for more proof of income not only on your salary but other documents that will prove that you can sustain your bankroll and you are not working just to gamble, even if you're living with your parents there should be right allocation on all your basic needs.

Nope, they, the casino, will accept the documents you've sent whether or not the amount listed on your pay slip is lesser than what you usually deposit and gamble on their platform. Those documents that they've ask for a proof of income is just an additional verification to support your initial verification, that is also why they ask for the most recent pay slip, so they'll be able to validate it better on their end. Also, just because you're earning lesser amount on your job doesn't mean that is the only way you earn money, there are investments, assets, gambling, trading, freelancing and much more that doesn't provide a pay slip. You're not applying anything like a credit card or loan on a gambling platform for it to require a certain amount of income to be qualified.

[Rengga Jati]

What's the reason for this? Doesn't this sound funny?
Or maybe this is just one of their ways to make it difficult for users to make withdrawals? If this happens, isn't this really crossing the boundaries of our privacy, especially since this is a gambling platform? This is my first time hearing about that. If it's related to KYC, maybe KYC is often done, but usually, it's enough to provide data or more, that's our ID, right? It seems like they are a financial evaluator institution

[ChiBitCTy]

I'm curious which countries actually demand this, and not so sure I actually think it's a bad thing.  Personally I lean more on the side of lesser government, more of a libertarian type-ish when it comes to government rules and regulations, but I think this could actually promote good gambling habits.  That being said, I wouldn't want to deal with it and would certainly try and use ways around it if possible.

[noorman0]

Speaking of principle, maybe the casino won't care, in fact, they are happy to see you put in more money.
But this introduces another problem, it's inadvertently relevant to AML rules. Casinos may force you to provide information on your other sources of income, casino judgment in general would not believe that you put all your salary into their platform with nothing left.

[Silberman]

Speaking of principle, maybe the casino won't care, in fact, they are happy to see you put in more money.
But this introduces another problem, it's inadvertently relevant to AML rules. Casinos may force you to provide information on your other sources of income, casino judgment in general would not believe that you put all your salary into their platform with nothing left.

It would be difficult to believe for a casino that a person is putting all their money in their platform, however I do not think this is their problem, as long as you can prove that whatever amount of money you are depositing with them can be legally justified then that should be more than enough for them to conclude that you are not using funds coming from an illicit source or anything suspicious like that, since at the end of the day it is not their problem if you do in fact spend all your money with them.

[Hispo]

Speaking of principle, maybe the casino won't care, in fact, they are happy to see you put in more money.
But this introduces another problem, it's inadvertently relevant to AML rules. Casinos may force you to provide information on your other sources of income, casino judgment in general would not believe that you put all your salary into their platform with nothing left.

I mean, of course any casino will be happy if their clients decided to deposit more money into their platforms, they are a business after all.
But about the proof of income, I have already stated in other occasions that casinos have no business telling people how to handle their money, actually it should not be decision from the casinos managers to suspect if someone is spending all the salary in gambling, there must be a law or a legislation that allows people to deposit how much they want as long as it coincides with the provided proof of income.

[ethereumhunter]

We will never know because casinos can apply various things for the verification process and even ask for proof of our salary or income. But what if we don't have proof of salary but can make money from what we do?

But the casino will implement a verification process that doesn't burden its users because it can make users uncomfortable doing it. And hopefully, the casino will not ask many things for the verification of their members and will only use a basic verification.

The casinos doesn't need to follow the gamblers desire, but the gamblers are must following the casinos terms of services. They don't care if the requirements are really a lot and make the gamblers uncomfortable, the casinos will just freeze the funds and wait until the gamblers want to submit the whole KYC. Actually before you're want to use the service, you must to read the whole terms of services, this has been a warning when you're creating a new account.

Gamblers have options to play and so does the casino, which has rules and requirements that gamblers must fulfill. Therefore, if gamblers wish to play at a casino, they must prepare the necessary documents in case they may be asked to perform KYC by the casino.

Just reading the terms is all we can do and if we don't like the casino's terms, we can look for another casino that may not have those requirements. We don't need to stay at the casino because many trusted casinos still make it easy for gamblers to play gambling and verify their accounts.

[lienfaye]

Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

Well it's hard to believe that you're using your whole salary for gambling. How about your other expenses? Are you going to rely on your gambling winnings to have such decision to gamble it all? Anyway, I don't think there's a casino who would care on where their players getting their money to deposit. Isn't it good for them that their players are consistently playing and spending their money on their platform? Because it's none of their business. But is this based on your own experience in a specific casino?

[wxa7115]

Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

Well it's hard to believe that you're using your whole salary for gambling. How about your other expenses? Are you going to rely on your gambling winnings to have such decision to gamble it all? Anyway, I don't think there's a casino who would care on where their players getting their money to deposit. Isn't it good for them that their players are consistently playing and spending their money on their platform? Because it's none of their business. But is this based on your own experience in a specific casino?

Personally I have never been asked to go thought KYC myself, however for what I have read other users which have done so, there are in fact some instances in which a casino could in fact ask you where your source of income is coming from.

After all they do not want to get in trouble themselves by allowing a person to gamble with funds they could have gotten through criminal activities, however other than that I do not think they care about the scenario the OP is worried about.

[dothebeats]

If you got your income together legally, then it shouldn't be a problem, right? I also don't think gambling sites have the right to go into much more detail about this. And then there, how is a gambling site going to check something like that? If they want to elaborate on that, it's usually a sign that you can't trust the site and that they're stretching things. Too bad, because it should only be for administration and not to perform all kinds of checks. After all, a gambling site has absolutely no power and authorization to carry out such checks.

They will have it if you let them. The moment you have given the document to their hands, it is also the moment you have given them the right to do further verification and checking to see whether these documents are up to standard and are not forged in any way. You'd be surprised on how agreeing to some terms of services extends the legal right of a gambling platform to a lot of things. That is why people should really think twice or thrice before checking that tick box on the ToS of every website/service/whatever it is that they are signing up for. They worded it well that you won't think there's anything wrong, when in reality you're giving them every right to go against your ass the moment you submit that document and checked the ToS.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

I think they don't even have the right to prohibit you from gambling even though your money in gambling comes from your monthly salary, of course, this will be a bad habit if you play your monthly salary for gambling. But back to the point I mentioned (bold text). Then, I also wonder, on which site do you play? is this a physical casino? I also want to know more about this. But whatever it is, if what they are asking for is an obligation to withdraw money, like it or not you have to provide the data they ask for.

    - You are right on this point that you are saying, maybe for the most part it is a bad method even if you didn't steal the money you earned. Even I honestly find it hard to believe that he is having a fixed amount of income from his gambling. I can believe that he earns a month but the fixed amount is unbelievable.

What I also don't understand is why a gambling casino needs to know that it is required to show proof of income, what does that have to do with a casino, this is the only casino that asks for proof of income first before you can gamble.

[traderethereum]

When you had a job for the monthly income from some companies over a period of 2 years. Then the account was enroll as the salary account. So then if you withdraw the money from casino it was seems to be the funds from your salary. Even it may not from the income of salary, this case make to pass such things due to the old transaction. Then it became easy to withdraw the gambling money. No need to pay separate tax for this. It’s best way to use the salary account for the gambling site and to win. When the pass of bank account was approved, it’s essential one for the gambling withdraw money from it.

I think what casinos are looking for from proof of income is to check whether the player pays the right tax or not from their winning from the casino am sure casinos only ask for such documents when the player already has a history of past big wins and withdrawals.

We will never know why the casino needs to verify us by asking for proof of salary.
Maybe it's to see how much their salary is and whether the money is just for gambling or they keep most of their salary for other purposes.
If the casino sees the gambler using his salary solely for gambling, perhaps the casino can warn them to change their habits so the gambler doesn't lose more money.
But if you don't want to send proof of income, you don't need to play gambling using big money and play moderately.

[lixer]

Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

Well it's hard to believe that you're using your whole salary for gambling. How about your other expenses? Are you going to rely on your gambling winnings to have such decision to gamble it all? Anyway, I don't think there's a casino who would care on where their players getting their money to deposit. Isn't it good for them that their players are consistently playing and spending their money on their platform? Because it's none of their business. But is this based on your own experience in a specific casino?

I think he was only using that as an example because no one in their right minds gambles all their salary and we don't even have a full salary because there will always be deductions for it. Proof of salary/income was only one of the options that some casinos are asking for their KYC verification.

They need to ensure that all the money that is being put on them are clean and doesn't came from illegal activities. I think this was also being ordered by the government so even if they like to cater all types of players to be able to earn more, they can't possibly do it. Earning small is better than not being able to operate and earn nothing at all.

[Vaculin]

I want to ask first if there's a case before where a gambling site asks for proof of income. If yes, can you share it?

I think there's this thread in this section where stake asked the OP for proof of income.

If that thing will be asked of me, that's already too much since the gambling site has nothing to do with our source of income as long as we were able to make deposits on their site legally. They supposed should not care about that part of our personal life.

I would have the same opinion that the casino shouldn't worry and think of what we do in our personal lives. But if it's written on their books that it's one document that they have to ask to someone that might have some activities that they detected to check, one has just to be obliged to comply.

I have read from some casinos that they really ask for proofs of income because that will be used to support your funds, that you are legally earning it either from your job or from your business that provides your income, and not from any form of fraud. Mainly, this is to protect the casino itself and its reputation, and  to protect the gamblers  as well from any forms of money laundering.