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January 07, 2023, 05:48:08 PM
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Looking at the last fight of Loma, I think he is not in his prime anymore. The early 30s to mid-30s are the most common for most boxers to lose their primes. I believe Haney will be the stronger and faster guy and he will win against this version of Loma. As a huge fan of Loma since the start of his pro career, I hate to see him lose. Maybe Haney cannot make the weight and just move up. Cheesy

Haha you got me there! Grin

But anyway, I agree with you and as a fan of Lomachenko, it's really hard to see him on this phase where his prime years has ended quite early than expected despite the fact that he's still on his early 30s. I'm expecting that he will at least achieve the rank of Devin Haney before his career goes down but I think that's too much to ask because his recent fight reveals that he's not the kind of Loma we used to know. Devin Haney will definitely win this fight as Loma's sole advantage is his IQ in the ring, which Haney also got it and explains why he got the rank of being the undisputed in the lightweight division.

Not be easy for Haney to just move up in weight and forget about Loma or make it easy for Loma to take all the belts because that's what his goal is at 135 lbs. Loma is known as hi-tech so that says its, he is on a different level as setting up his power punches, the angle and the intangibles in the fight. So we shouldn't discount him just because of his last poor showing against a big and young fighter in Ortiz.

Well, there's only one way to find out if Loma is indeed way over his prime these days. I agree, let's just give the man some time to adjust because he's was probably struggling in that fight as he was away for some time because of the war that broke out in the north. Not underestimating him either, but just like how you describe Haney, he is truly different from the rest which explains why he is the undisputed in the lightweight division. It will be a tough challenge for Loma to fight a boxer that has an upgraded version of what he was in his younger years.

I do agree that Haney is different as compare to other champions, just like Floyd, only not a big puncher but he win fights by this defense first and then to counter. So it's just a question on how Loma has adjusted since his fight with Ortiz because we have to admit he didn't look good that some sports fans and analyst say that he is not his prime anymore. But we will see, this fight is for the undisputed and if Loma is really what he is, then he can go a notch on his skills and beat a prime Devin Haney.

Let's not add Floyd Mayweather into the discussion because Haney is different as well as Mayweather Jr. himself, I know that the retired undefeated legend is not that easy to defeat because of the defense mastery he had obtained and practiced, but Haney is just different because as of now, Haney is not picky in his opponent and just let anyone one come to him and try to dethrone him while Mayweather had to chose some opponents to increase his chances or at least let his opponent grew old first before he faces them.

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January 08, 2023, 05:59:18 PM
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Looking at the last fight of Loma, I think he is not in his prime anymore. The early 30s to mid-30s are the most common for most boxers to lose their primes. I believe Haney will be the stronger and faster guy and he will win against this version of Loma. As a huge fan of Loma since the start of his pro career, I hate to see him lose. Maybe Haney cannot make the weight and just move up. Cheesy

Haha you got me there! Grin

But anyway, I agree with you and as a fan of Lomachenko, it's really hard to see him on this phase where his prime years has ended quite early than expected despite the fact that he's still on his early 30s. I'm expecting that he will at least achieve the rank of Devin Haney before his career goes down but I think that's too much to ask because his recent fight reveals that he's not the kind of Loma we used to know. Devin Haney will definitely win this fight as Loma's sole advantage is his IQ in the ring, which Haney also got it and explains why he got the rank of being the undisputed in the lightweight division.

Not be easy for Haney to just move up in weight and forget about Loma or make it easy for Loma to take all the belts because that's what his goal is at 135 lbs. Loma is known as hi-tech so that says its, he is on a different level as setting up his power punches, the angle and the intangibles in the fight. So we shouldn't discount him just because of his last poor showing against a big and young fighter in Ortiz.

Well, there's only one way to find out if Loma is indeed way over his prime these days. I agree, let's just give the man some time to adjust because he's was probably struggling in that fight as he was away for some time because of the war that broke out in the north. Not underestimating him either, but just like how you describe Haney, he is truly different from the rest which explains why he is the undisputed in the lightweight division. It will be a tough challenge for Loma to fight a boxer that has an upgraded version of what he was in his younger years.

I do agree that Haney is different as compare to other champions, just like Floyd, only not a big puncher but he win fights by this defense first and then to counter. So it's just a question on how Loma has adjusted since his fight with Ortiz because we have to admit he didn't look good that some sports fans and analyst say that he is not his prime anymore. But we will see, this fight is for the undisputed and if Loma is really what he is, then he can go a notch on his skills and beat a prime Devin Haney.
Well, in general terms, we have high hopes for Haney, because for many this boxer is an icon of doing things very well and can perform very well in any scenario, whether favorable or not for him, many trust his great technique and may give results when he is under great pressure in the fight, however, we cannot leave Loma aside, because Loma has very good technique, and apart from that, Loma can get a moment of explosiveness, which I think characterizes him and has a lot of The need to win, he wants to gain fame and I think that is something that all boxers are looking for anyway, which is fame.


Devin Haney sparring Tank Davis’ opponent Hector Luis Garcia in competitive work



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By Allan Fox: Sparring video of Devin Haney and Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis’ next opponent, Hector Luis Garcia, was leaked today, showing a VERY competitive spar & not the one-sided situation that ‘The Dream’ had said it had been. With the problems the smaller super featherweight Hector Garcia gave Haney during the clip of the sparring session, Devin might need to re-think the idea of going up to 140 because he lacks the power to compete in that weight class. Haney is too weak to compete against the lions at light welterweight like Regis Prograis, Josh Taylor, Subriel Matias, Jose Ramirez, and Teofimo Lopez.

Source: Devin Haney Sparring Tank Davis' Opponent Hector Luis Garcia In Competitive Work - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/devin-haney-sparring-tank-davis-opponent-hector-luis-garcia-in-competitive-work/)


Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/devin-haney-sparring-tank-davis-opponent-hector-luis-garcia-in-competitive-work/

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January 08, 2023, 06:12:34 PM
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Let's not add Floyd Mayweather into the discussion because Haney is different as well as Mayweather Jr. himself, I know that the retired undefeated legend is not that easy to defeat because of the defense mastery he had obtained and practiced, but Haney is just different because as of now, Haney is not picky in his opponent and just let anyone one come to him and try to dethrone him while Mayweather had to chose some opponents to increase his chances or at least let his opponent grew old first before he faces them.

Mayweather picks his opponent not because he's scared, but because he's looking for value on his enemy. He only locks in against fighters that will bring him money and not challenge whatsoever. He plays clean boxing, and by clean I mean defenses. He just comes in the ring and treats it as a business deal. He doesn't want to get knocked out, doesn't want to do all the bad stuff, he just wants to win and get the payout. That's why he mastered his defense and evasion plus jabs because he just want to score as much points as possible and not go out head to head against his opponents. He's a smart boxer and a businessman, but not so much of a fighter.
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January 08, 2023, 06:35:34 PM
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Let's not add Floyd Mayweather into the discussion because Haney is different as well as Mayweather Jr. himself, I know that the retired undefeated legend is not that easy to defeat because of the defense mastery he had obtained and practiced, but Haney is just different because as of now, Haney is not picky in his opponent and just let anyone one come to him and try to dethrone him while Mayweather had to chose some opponents to increase his chances or at least let his opponent grew old first before he faces them.

Mayweather picks his opponent not because he's scared, but because he's looking for value on his enemy. He only locks in against fighters that will bring him money and not challenge whatsoever. He plays clean boxing, and by clean I mean defenses. He just comes in the ring and treats it as a business deal. He doesn't want to get knocked out, doesn't want to do all the bad stuff, he just wants to win and get the payout. That's why he mastered his defense and evasion plus jabs because he just want to score as much points as possible and not go out head to head against his opponents. He's a smart boxer and a businessman, but not so much of a fighter.

Mayweather is just using his brain.  I agree Mayweather wanted to put a value on his record which is why he skip boxers that may beat him... avoiding boxers that may beat you isn't being scared, IMO, it is just being cautious  Grin.  And see where that being cautious bring Mayweather now.  Although despise by many hardcore boxing fans, he still get lots of money during his exhibition fight because his record caters huge interest from the boxing fans.

About Devin Haney, if he keeps his record clean until his retirement age, I believe he will be more popular and liked than Mayweather and will surely outshine Maywethers boxing record due to the fact that Haney had beaten all the top boxers in his category(during his time) in their prime.

While on the Haney Lomachechenco possible fight, this comment[1] is worth noting,

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In Lomachenko, the 23-year-old would face an opponent over whom he’d have advantages in height (5'8" to 5'7") and reach (71" to 65.5"), not to mention a significant edge in hand speed.

On the flip side, Lomachenko could cause problems with a southpaw style and elite-level footwork that allow him to play sound defense and utilize unique angles to land punches. There’s also a sizable gap in experience thanks to the older man’s nearly 400-fight amateur career compared to Haney’s 146.



[1] https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10054001-why-vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-devin-haney-should-be-boxings-next-blockbuster

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January 08, 2023, 09:59:09 PM
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^^ There is also factor that made Mayweather famous and rich, he is brandish, talks to much and I would say has the charisma, and the whole character. I don't think Haney will have that even if he has 0 losses when he retire.

Loma fought taller fighters as well, Jorge Linares, 5 ft 8 inch with 69 inch reach advantage. Loma went down in round 6 (first time in his career), but he dominated Linares after that and stopped him in round 10. So he is familiar fighting taller opponents. Another taller opponents he face is Nicholas Walters, 5 ft 7 inches tall and with a 73 inch reach.

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^^ There is also factor that made Mayweather famous and rich, he is brandish, talks to much and I would say has the charisma, and the whole character. I don't think Haney will have that even if he has 0 losses when he retire.

Yes, that's true and that's exactly the side that Haney doesn't have, that's why most people looks at him as one of the boring boxers in the industry because his fights in the past had no hypes at all. He's only became famous these days because he does have the undisputed title in the lightweight division as he also holds all the belt under his possession, and that definitely attracts good boxers that will hype their fight and market it, just like now as he will be fighting Lomachenko soon.

Aside from that fact, Haney's not avoiding any boxers unlike Mayweather who did that tactics in his pro-career. But I know that it's still arguable as it's still too early to tell because Haney is still decades away from the retirement phase.
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^^ There is also factor that made Mayweather famous and rich, he is brandish, talks to much and I would say has the charisma, and the whole character. I don't think Haney will have that even if he has 0 losses when he retire.

Yes, that's true and that's exactly the side that Haney doesn't have, that's why most people looks at him as one of the boring boxers in the industry because his fights in the past had no hypes at all. He's only became famous these days because he does have the undisputed title in the lightweight division as he also holds all the belt under his possession, and that definitely attracts good boxers that will hype their fight and market it, just like now as he will be fighting Lomachenko soon.

Aside from that fact, Haney's not avoiding any boxers unlike Mayweather who did that tactics in his pro-career. But I know that it's still arguable as it's still too early to tell because Haney is still decades away from the retirement phase.

I definitely think that we're too early discussing and comparing Devin Haney with Floyd Mayweather Jr., because in the latter's years, he is not really backing up anyone and doesn't avoid any fight as he's still climbing the ladder and doesn't even know if he can retire undefeated or not. Young Floyd was just focusing in his present during his prime years, just like what Haney did now. So, we will see it soon when Haney will become older and if he will be picky with the fights or not. Because if not, then he's really incomparable with Floyd.

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^^ There is also factor that made Mayweather famous and rich, he is brandish, talks to much and I would say has the charisma, and the whole character. I don't think Haney will have that even if he has 0 losses when he retire.

Yes, that's true and that's exactly the side that Haney doesn't have, that's why most people looks at him as one of the boring boxers in the industry because his fights in the past had no hypes at all. He's only became famous these days because he does have the undisputed title in the lightweight division as he also holds all the belt under his possession, and that definitely attracts good boxers that will hype their fight and market it, just like now as he will be fighting Lomachenko soon.

Aside from that fact, Haney's not avoiding any boxers unlike Mayweather who did that tactics in his pro-career. But I know that it's still arguable as it's still too early to tell because Haney is still decades away from the retirement phase.

I definitely think that we're too early discussing and comparing Devin Haney with Floyd Mayweather Jr., because in the latter's years, he is not really backing up anyone and doesn't avoid any fight as he's still climbing the ladder and doesn't even know if he can retire undefeated or not. Young Floyd was just focusing in his present during his prime years, just like what Haney did now. So, we will see it soon when Haney will become older and if he will be picky with the fights or not. Because if not, then he's really incomparable with Floyd.

Yes, but certainly the arguments could be there. At 130-135 lbs, Floyd was phenomenal, until he mature become the boss of himself and then just chooses fighters he want to fight. So Haney is doing that as well at 135 lbs, taking the belt from Kambosos and now facing Loma. Hopefully though, Davis and Garcia should be also in his radar, unfortunately, we might not see that happening as he also talks about going up to 140 lbs.

Maybe at welterweight we will see a lot of great fights because it will be stack up division with Davis, Garcia and Haney moving up and then we have Lopez already on that division.

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Let's not add Floyd Mayweather into the discussion because Haney is different as well as Mayweather Jr. himself, I know that the retired undefeated legend is not that easy to defeat because of the defense mastery he had obtained and practiced, but Haney is just different because as of now, Haney is not picky in his opponent and just let anyone one come to him and try to dethrone him while Mayweather had to chose some opponents to increase his chances or at least let his opponent grew old first before he faces them.

Mayweather picks his opponent not because he's scared, but because he's looking for value on his enemy. He only locks in against fighters that will bring him money and not challenge whatsoever. He plays clean boxing, and by clean I mean defenses. He just comes in the ring and treats it as a business deal. He doesn't want to get knocked out, doesn't want to do all the bad stuff, he just wants to win and get the payout. That's why he mastered his defense and evasion plus jabs because he just want to score as much points as possible and not go out head to head against his opponents. He's a smart boxer and a businessman, but not so much of a fighter.

That's how Floyd is when he become the cash cow, he can pick anyone he wants earn millions for him without blemishing his record. And for his opponents, it's a blessing as well to be with the legendary Floyd in the ring and then win their biggest paycheck.

But I do agree that there is no comparison between him and Haney, they might be the same defensive fighter. But Floyd is one of a kind fighter, not just inside the ring but outside with his business and still making a lot of money with exhibition fights.

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Just like other fans, I'm gonna be biased here and will root for Loma. Maybe he is passed his prime but his IQ is still there and 34 isn't old enough as other boxers at his age are still doing pretty well too. Let's not forget Pacquiao passed his prime and still manage to win by a split decision at age 40.

Most probably a unanimous decision at the end of the fight. As per rumor says, he will be the underdog and that is not surprising but fans will be happy to bet coz they have better odds.
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Just like other fans, I'm gonna be biased here and will root for Loma. Maybe he is passed his prime but his IQ is still there and 34 isn't old enough as other boxers at his age are still doing pretty well too. Let's not forget Pacquiao passed his prime and still manage to win by a split decision at age 40.

This is highly possible if Loma step on the ring at his best.  Many fans believe that Loma can crack Devin Haney's defense and I so want to see it too.  Although Haney has all the advantage, reach, size, youth except I think is the experience where Loma has the advantage, many believes that the fighting style and ring adaptiveness of Loma is superb,  I also want to see Loma win this upcoming fight.

Most probably a unanimous decision at the end of the fight. As per rumor says, he will be the underdog and that is not surprising but fans will be happy to bet coz they have better odds.

I think it is obvious that Lomachenco will be the underdog here, Devin Haney is the champion, bigger and younger boxer at his prime plus the unblemished records.
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Just like other fans, I'm gonna be biased here and will root for Loma. Maybe he is passed his prime but his IQ is still there and 34 isn't old enough as other boxers at his age are still doing pretty well too. Let's not forget Pacquiao passed his prime and still manage to win by a split decision at age 40.
No, 34 years old is still prime age... I would say 40 years old is where their power and stamina are greatly decrease. Just look GGG is still active fighting and he would likely want to challenge a champion at 40 years old.

Although Haney has all the advantage, reach, size, youth except I think is the experience where Loma has the advantage, many believes that the fighting style and ring adaptiveness of Loma is superb,  I also want to see Loma win this upcoming fight.
Yeah, Loma was built different, I don't find any good boxer that similar with him because most of them has reach advantage and young. So much respect to Loma even though he doesn't own any title anymore, it's his time to get back all his titles after losing to Lopez.

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No, 34 years old is still prime age... I would say 40 years old is where their power and stamina are greatly decrease. Just look GGG is still active fighting and he would likely want to challenge a champion at 40 years old.
The age range below 40 still has excellent strength and there are no restrictions for the age of the boxer, many boxers increase their prime at that age because they already have experience and established ability to beat their opponents. Pacquiao and GGG are motivations for all boxers that age is not a problem to achieve a better boxer career.

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Yeah, Loma was built different, I don't find any good boxer that similar with him because most of them has reach advantage and young. So much respect to Loma even though he doesn't own any title anymore, it's his time to get back all his titles after losing to Lopez.
Loma has a better range advantage than Haney and he has other skills for hand speed attacks, based on data sources that he has 2 defeats and has already fought 400 amateur fights, so we shouldn't doubt his ability and even though Haney is a strong opponent but he should be able to win belt from him in that fight.

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January 10, 2023, 05:38:32 PM
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I wouldn't count Loma here, he could just have a bad performance against Ortiz the last time, could be ring rust only.

So in any case, this is going to be a good technical match as put are very defensive fighters and very skilled. Maybe Haney could be just a slight advantage when the odds are listed, but for sure we all wanted Loma to be the underdog because our bet will get a good win. Too early for now, but this fight for sure can be made without any hitch as both are under Bob Arum's Top Rank promotions.

Yeah, I will go with Loma here even though I know Devin Haney has an advantage, besides, many people believe that the technical skill of Loma is the counter for the defensive style of Haney.  I so love to see that happen.  Hopefully the latest performance of Lomachenco is just a ring rust and not the sign of his performance decline.
My early final decision for this match is to go to Loma. Loma's performance in his last fight was not looking good. There are always ups and downs in fighters. Maybe this fight coincided with the decline period. I think Devin Haney will prepare well for the match, although he feels ready enough, his technical skills are enough to beat him. Although not in his prime, I think he's still playing the game very well.

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Just like other fans, I'm gonna be biased here and will root for Loma. Maybe he is passed his prime but his IQ is still there and 34 isn't old enough as other boxers at his age are still doing pretty well too. Let's not forget Pacquiao passed his prime and still manage to win by a split decision at age 40.
No, 34 years old is still prime age... I would say 40 years old is where their power and stamina are greatly decrease. Just look GGG is still active fighting and he would likely want to challenge a champion at 40 years old.

Although Haney has all the advantage, reach, size, youth except I think is the experience where Loma has the advantage, many believes that the fighting style and ring adaptiveness of Loma is superb,  I also want to see Loma win this upcoming fight.
Yeah, Loma was built different, I don't find any good boxer that similar with him because most of them has reach advantage and young. So much respect to Loma even though he doesn't own any title anymore, it's his time to get back all his titles after losing to Lopez.

But GGG's wear and tear is somehow evident and he's not that agile anymore compared to his younger years or when he was still under 35 years old considering that he's already at the age of 40, but considering that age, GGG can still move well and give some good punch that will question his opponent if he's indeed already 40 years old. Murata is a good example for that.

Regarding this fight, I know you guys are rooting for Loma here but I will go for the opposite camp where Haney is situated. Just can't help to be with the kid especially after seeing some of his fights, recently. He's just too confident because he's good at technical and his defense are quite impressive as well.

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But I do believed that this is going to be a close fight and not going to be easy for Haney even if he turns to be the betting favorite.

Exactly, Haney will not dominate here completely as Loma has not been dominated yet in his boxing career. He use to be the one who dominate his opponent, so until I see that scenario against him, I would not think that Loma is already not good enough for a fighter like Haney who are still on his prime.

If these odds are true, then Haney is the heavy favorite.
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Lomachenko, who struggled to beat Jamaine Ortiz last weekend, opened at +172 odds.
The opening odds mark the longest in the careers of both fighters.

https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/devin-haney-a-sizable-favorite-in-potential-lomachenko-fight/

That will surely attract bettors if Loma will be listed at +172 in the bookies, however, since it's just a prediction, then we cannot ensure we will see the odds once their fight will be announced or official. Loma had only few fights in his career but most of them are against a quality opponent, that's why the boxing community has huge respect on him and he had a great ranking on the pound for pound during his prime.

Haney is one of the best boxers I've ever seen in a ring, I like his technique and the way he faces his opponents, I know he's much more famous than Loma, maybe for that reason he'll start to open up a lot more demand in the Betting sites, it's something normal, I see it that way, however, we can't leave Loma aside either, he's a surprising boxer, the things that I like about him is that at any time in any round he explodes and gives a demonstration of lob boxing as clear as possible, I don't know how it saves energy, because sometimes it can look very tired but when it really explodes it's as if it's charging.

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Washington (AFP) – American Gervonta Davis took his record to 28-0 with 26 knockouts on Saturday when he stopped previously unbeaten Hector Luis Garcia in a World Boxing Association lightweight fight.

Davis retained his WBA "regular" world title in the division, in which American Devin Haney is recognized as the WBA's "super" world champion.

Unbeaten Haney also holds the WBC, IBF and WBO belts, which he defended with a dominant victory over Australian George Kambosos in Melbourne in October.

Saturday's bout at the Capital One arena in Washington saw Dominican Garcia push Davis in the early going.

Source: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230108-davis-stops-garcia-to-retain-regular-wba-lightweight-world-title

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January 12, 2023, 05:47:18 AM
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Well, our physical bodies when we reach our 30s and onwards are not the same as when we were in our 20s. That's proven over time and in any physical sports, athletes will start to decline when they enter their 30s. In boxing, fighters will gain experience over time so the early 20s might lose to the early 30s. Most fighters are primed in their mid-20s to late 20s. If we see champions in their late 30s and onwards, most of them are future Hall of Famers. They are special since their diminishing physiques are still enough to beat fighters in top forms.

Another factor if we observed long enough in the world of boxing, those styles that are conservative and safety-first are the ones to prolong their careers. Guys like Floyd Mayweather Jr., Bernard Hopkins, and Juan Manuel Marquez are good examples. Brawlers and bangers consume too much energy and strength and they are put at a big disadvantage when they are in their 30s if they won't change part of their styles. Mike Tyson and Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. are perfect examples, no matter how very good, explosive, experienced, and gifted they still lose in their 30s. Lewis is even older than Tyson but his style is more long-lasting and allowed him to fight in longer rounds whereas the old Tyson doesn't have enough gas to maintain his quickness and strength in a full 12-round fight. Chavez Sr. was still beating mid-levels to good fighters in his mid-30s but was KO'd when he tried to fight the younger De La Hoya and Tszyu.

Back to Lomachenko, he is still capable of winning against good opposition but I doubt he is capable of beating younger fighters that have Hall-of-Fame qualities. Right now, Haney and Shakur still need more achievements to their names to become future HOFers like Loma but they are showing signs of greatness. We'll see if Haney can pass the Loma test. I do think he can. Shakur is probably next for the winner. I see Shakur as more talented than Haney. The only piece of stuff that Haney and Shakur don't have is their lack of power which might need if they want to conquer more divisions. Mayweather and Pacman were KO artists before moving up in many divisions.

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January 12, 2023, 06:50:21 AM
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Just like other fans, I'm gonna be biased here and will root for Loma. Maybe he is passed his prime but his IQ is still there and 34 isn't old enough as other boxers at his age are still doing pretty well too. Let's not forget Pacquiao passed his prime and still manage to win by a split decision at age 40.
No, 34 years old is still prime age... I would say 40 years old is where their power and stamina are greatly decrease. Just look GGG is still active fighting and he would likely want to challenge a champion at 40 years old.

Although Haney has all the advantage, reach, size, youth except I think is the experience where Loma has the advantage, many believes that the fighting style and ring adaptiveness of Loma is superb,  I also want to see Loma win this upcoming fight.
Yeah, Loma was built different, I don't find any good boxer that similar with him because most of them has reach advantage and young. So much respect to Loma even though he doesn't own any title anymore, it's his time to get back all his titles after losing to Lopez.

But GGG's wear and tear is somehow evident and he's not that agile anymore compared to his younger years or when he was still under 35 years old considering that he's already at the age of 40, but considering that age, GGG can still move well and give some good punch that will question his opponent if he's indeed already 40 years old. Murata is a good example for that.

Regarding this fight, I know you guys are rooting for Loma here but I will go for the opposite camp where Haney is situated. Just can't help to be with the kid especially after seeing some of his fights, recently. He's just too confident because he's good at technical and his defense are quite impressive as well.

Yeah, wear and tear, or what we call Father time, no one can defeat that and we have seen GGG slowing down once he reach the age of 35 and up. Although eh keeps on winning, he no longer has that power to put his opponent with his one power.

And this could be evident in Loma in his last fight against Ortiz. If Ortiz could have the experience, who knows, maybe he could have upset Loma that time and get the victory. But this time, it's against a prime Haney that Loma will have to face, so it's going to be a big test for him whether we've seen some signs of deterioration and because of age, or Loma can still pull the trigger against a young opponent.
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January 12, 2023, 12:09:52 PM
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My early final decision for this match is to go to Loma. Loma's performance in his last fight was not looking good. There are always ups and downs in fighters. Maybe this fight coincided with the decline period. I think Devin Haney will prepare well for the match, although he feels ready enough, his technical skills are enough to beat him. Although not in his prime, I think he's still playing the game very well.

Same here. I think we are biased for Loma because we have seen him or how good he was when he fought the likes of Linares, Rigo and etc and also i think Haney is still have to prove that the belt that he has now is rightfully his. I doubt that if he fought Lopez, he would win, it's just that Haney was lucky that Kambosos won and defeated him in the unification.

Though the chance of Haney defeating Loma is great but i would still bet for the fighter that i think has the style or at least deserves to be the unified champion on this category.

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January 14, 2023, 10:40:18 PM
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As per Bob Arum, they already have a date on this fight, May 20, the only sticking point is where the fight is going to be held. They are are looking at 3 possible venues, New York, Las Vegas or even Middle East. But we will have to see, it seems that Bob Arum is trying to maximized the potential profit live gate of this fight. Those 3 potential venues are great in my opinion, they just have to look at the schedule so that it won't collide on other big sporting events like in New York wherein there are a lot also like the Knicks, game or Rangers, so we will have to see. But the good news is that this fight is in the bag.

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