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January 15, 2023, 12:21:43 AM
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As per Bob Arum, they already have a date on this fight, May 20, the only sticking point is where the fight is going to be held. They are are looking at 3 possible venues, New York, Las Vegas or even Middle East. But we will have to see, it seems that Bob Arum is trying to maximized the potential profit live gate of this fight. Those 3 potential venues are great in my opinion, they just have to look at the schedule so that it won't collide on other big sporting events like in New York wherein there are a lot also like the Knicks, game or Rangers, so we will have to see. But the good news is that this fight is in the bag.

Haney is a Muslim, and if I'm not mistaken, Ramadan will take place March 22 and will end April 21.

So Arum will have to take that in consideration although I think Haney did train the same time as the Ramadan last year when he fought George Kambosos. So I guess May 20 will be fine for both sides,

Saudi will be the long short as far as venue, so most likely it will be New York or Vegas, I reckon.

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January 15, 2023, 03:55:56 AM
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My early final decision for this match is to go to Loma. Loma's performance in his last fight was not looking good. There are always ups and downs in fighters. Maybe this fight coincided with the decline period. I think Devin Haney will prepare well for the match, although he feels ready enough, his technical skills are enough to beat him. Although not in his prime, I think he's still playing the game very well.

Same here. I think we are biased for Loma because we have seen him or how good he was when he fought the likes of Linares, Rigo and etc and also i think Haney is still have to prove that the belt that he has now is rightfully his. I doubt that if he fought Lopez, he would win, it's just that Haney was lucky that Kambosos won and defeated him in the unification.

Though the chance of Haney defeating Loma is great but i would still bet for the fighter that i think has the style or at least deserves to be the unified champion on this category.

Yeah, definitely agree with you that we should not overlook Loma or think that he might have a slim chance against a young fighter like Haney. As what we have been saying, style makes fight. And this is one classic example of it.

Loma might look bad against Ortiz, but he got the win and that's important right now.

Is this fight since the stake are high for sure he will have a different mindset and we will see if Loma still has the mental edge even against one of the highest boxing IQ in 135 lbs in Devin Haney.

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January 15, 2023, 08:08:13 AM
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As per Bob Arum, they already have a date on this fight, May 20, the only sticking point is where the fight is going to be held. They are are looking at 3 possible venues, New York, Las Vegas or even Middle East. But we will have to see, it seems that Bob Arum is trying to maximized the potential profit live gate of this fight. Those 3 potential venues are great in my opinion, they just have to look at the schedule so that it won't collide on other big sporting events like in New York wherein there are a lot also like the Knicks, game or Rangers, so we will have to see. But the good news is that this fight is in the bag.

Yeah, good to hear that this fight is in the bag already and reportedly it will be held in the garden, not Vegas which i think a good venue for this massive fight for this division but they have a good reason if they pursue this one in New York.

Haney is a Muslim, and if I'm not mistaken, Ramadan will take place March 22 and will end April 21.

I just knew this one from you, thanks for this. One month of preparation will be okay i think (after the Ramadan) for a boxer like Haney.

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January 15, 2023, 11:24:26 AM
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As per Bob Arum, they already have a date on this fight, May 20, the only sticking point is where the fight is going to be held. They are are looking at 3 possible venues, New York, Las Vegas or even Middle East. But we will have to see, it seems that Bob Arum is trying to maximized the potential profit live gate of this fight. Those 3 potential venues are great in my opinion, they just have to look at the schedule so that it won't collide on other big sporting events like in New York wherein there are a lot also like the Knicks, game or Rangers, so we will have to see. But the good news is that this fight is in the bag.

Yeah, good to hear that this fight is in the bag already and reportedly it will be held in the garden, not Vegas which i think a good venue for this massive fight for this division but they have a good reason if they pursue this one in New York.

Haney is a Muslim, and if I'm not mistaken, Ramadan will take place March 22 and will end April 21.

I just knew this one from you, thanks for this. One month of preparation will be okay i think (after the Ramadan) for a boxer like Haney.

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I also like New York though, it's one of the best city to held a boxing fight as big as this one. Although Vegas is the gambling capital and for sure it will bring a lot of money for the casinos if it held there, so win-win for them. But in the stand point of PPV or live gates, might be better if it is in MSG.

I think in the Kambosos fight, Haney already trained during the Ramadan, so this is not the first time for him to do that.

He is used to it so I don't see it being a big issue on his side.

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January 15, 2023, 02:25:46 PM
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this will be a very interesting fight, on one side we have a very young fighter, only 24 years old and on the other side we have a 34 year old fighter, there are 10 years difference in age and difference in fight experience, Devin Miles Haney has the advantage of being taller and from what I could see he will also have the advantage of being a little faster with his hands, while Lomachenko has the advantage of being very experienced due to his age, he had 400 fights against Haney's 146 fights , I'll wait in May to see which one is the favorite and if there are odds worth betting

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January 15, 2023, 02:40:25 PM
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this will be a very interesting fight, on one side we have a very young fighter, only 24 years old and on the other side we have a 34 year old fighter, there are 10 years difference in age and difference in fight experience, Devin Miles Haney has the advantage of being taller and from what I could see he will also have the advantage of being a little faster with his hands, while Lomachenko has the advantage of being very experienced due to his age,
Now, mostly the winners are the younger champion, however, I believe Loma is different, though he already aged and some may call him and old boxer, but he hasn't showed sign that his boxing skills has degrade, he had won his last fight, and that's a good statement that he can still win fights.

Well, Haney is surely different compared to his last opponent, but as long as Loma will stay focus on his game plan, he sure have a shot here.

....he had 400 fights against Haney's 146 fights , I'll wait in May to see which one is the favorite and if there are odds worth betting
I wouldn't count the amateur fights as it's not so competitive unlike in the pro.

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January 15, 2023, 03:44:44 PM
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while Lomachenko has the advantage of being very experienced due to his age, he had 400 fights against Haney's 146 fights , I'll wait in May to see which one is the favorite and if there are odds worth betting
A lot of fights for both men but these are probably short rounded fights against nobodies. I would not use this information to aid your betting because there is no way that any of these fights mean anything. I think Haney is a good fighter but I would not say he is quicker then Lomachenko. Loma has some of the fastest hands in boxing and has some of the quickest feet. What I do think Haney has over Loma is Loma has lost some of his fire in his older age and Haney has something to chase and pursue.
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January 16, 2023, 01:08:54 PM
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while Lomachenko has the advantage of being very experienced due to his age, he had 400 fights against Haney's 146 fights , I'll wait in May to see which one is the favorite and if there are odds worth betting
A lot of fights for both men but these are probably short rounded fights against nobodies. I would not use this information to aid your betting because there is no way that any of these fights mean anything. I think Haney is a good fighter but I would not say he is quicker then Lomachenko. Loma has some of the fastest hands in boxing and has some of the quickest feet. What I do think Haney has over Loma is Loma has lost some of his fire in his older age and Haney has something to chase and pursue.
As a fan we will be biased, if we are a fan of Loma, we will certainly believe that he is faster and even stronger than Haney. That's the exciting part of this fight because both are great boxers, I think the only advantage of Haney is he is the younger fighter and still undefeated, the rest, it's all fair, or Loma has some edge too.

Actually, it's easy to say because these are just our perception, so let's just wait for the official fight to make our judgment.

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January 16, 2023, 01:23:18 PM
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Can't wait to see this match happens. Devin Haney is right in choosing to fight Lomachenko. I agree with Tank Davis that although Haney is an undisputed champion, he is not really that saleable of a fighter. I think it's because of the way he fights. Defeating an old Loma would somehow boost his popularity. If he will be defeated at least he is defeated in a mega fight and by Lomachenko. It is still worth it.
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January 16, 2023, 04:30:17 PM
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As per Bob Arum, they already have a date on this fight, May 20, the only sticking point is where the fight is going to be held. They are are looking at 3 possible venues, New York, Las Vegas or even Middle East. But we will have to see, it seems that Bob Arum is trying to maximized the potential profit live gate of this fight. Those 3 potential venues are great in my opinion, they just have to look at the schedule so that it won't collide on other big sporting events like in New York wherein there are a lot also like the Knicks, game or Rangers, so we will have to see. But the good news is that this fight is in the bag.

Yeah, good to hear that this fight is in the bag already and reportedly it will be held in the garden, not Vegas which i think a good venue for this massive fight for this division but they have a good reason if they pursue this one in New York.

Haney is a Muslim, and if I'm not mistaken, Ramadan will take place March 22 and will end April 21.

I just knew this one from you, thanks for this. One month of preparation will be okay i think (after the Ramadan) for a boxer like Haney.

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I also like New York though, it's one of the best city to held a boxing fight as big as this one. Although Vegas is the gambling capital and for sure it will bring a lot of money for the casinos if it held there, so win-win for them. But in the stand point of PPV or live gates, might be better if it is in MSG.

I think in the Kambosos fight, Haney already trained during the Ramadan, so this is not the first time for him to do that.

He is used to it so I don't see it being a big issue on his side.

For sure the organizers had already done some thorough thoughts about this one like where to hold the Loma-Haney fight and agreed that the fight will be in Madison Square Garden in New York. Not sure why they haven't pursued a Vegas fight but I'm thinking that maybe the specific day where they would like it to host the bout is already booked and reserved for some occasion. One thing is for sure, there's a lot of fans out there who are glad that this fight has materialized because there's a rumor in the past that Haney might face Stevenson instead.

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January 17, 2023, 10:06:54 AM
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Can't wait to see this match happens. Devin Haney is right in choosing to fight Lomachenko. I agree with Tank Davis that although Haney is an undisputed champion, he is not really that saleable of a fighter. I think it's because of the way he fights. Defeating an old Loma would somehow boost his popularity. If he will be defeated at least he is defeated in a mega fight and by Lomachenko. It is still worth it.
Yeah, I read that comment though, but you have to look at the perspective of a boxer or as a fan. As a boxer, we have to respect Devin Haney, he traveled to the backyard of the champion that time Kambosos and then defeated him twice. Although he is not as bankable as Tank Davis, still though he gets the job done and has all the belts that only Davis can envy. On the other hand, if you are a fan, Haney's style is very boring, as he played mostly on a the defensive stance and doesn't have that knockout power that Davis or Ryan Garcia possessed.

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January 17, 2023, 02:17:44 PM
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Haney is a Muslim, and if I'm not mistaken, Ramadan will take place March 22 and will end April 21.
I just knew this one from you, thanks for this. One month of preparation will be okay i think (after the Ramadan) for a boxer like Haney.
I didn't know this too so thank you for that information.
They are strict with their Muslim rules and I think Devin Haney already notified his managers about that event. It's sacred so it should be respected.

If ever the odds will come out how much do you guys think the difference will be? Is Devin Haney a heavy favorite like the odds in Tank Davis' fight against Hector Garcia? IIRC, it's Davis @1.05 only. Or will it be a near fight.
I can see different predictions from a few websites right now with Haney @1.50 and Vasiliy Lomachenco @2.60 -ish but I know they are not accurate yet.
A big change could happen before the fight.
I've also seen a tweet that it won't take place in Madison Square Garden. So Vegas or Crypto.com Arena or what the fans are hyping up or suggesting, Middle East, Saudi Arabia.

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January 17, 2023, 02:37:41 PM
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This would really be an interesting match to watch and I hope that the date and venue be update as soon as it is available.

But this fight really seems a little difficult to predict as there are alot of factors to consider as well and Devin we know is a great fight with reach upto 180 and it might seem difficult for lomachenco but we've seen lomachenco fight in matches with other wrestlers with more than 180 reach and with theserecords I'm sure it will be worth it even if it not seem easy for lomachenco and at worst it will end a draw.
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January 17, 2023, 08:01:02 PM
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This would really be an interesting match to watch and I hope that the date and venue be update as soon as it is available.

But this fight really seems a little difficult to predict as there are alot of factors to consider as well and Devin we know is a great fight with reach upto 180 and it might seem difficult for lomachenco but we've seen lomachenco fight in matches with other wrestlers with more than 180 reach and with theserecords I'm sure it will be worth it even if it not seem easy for lomachenco and at worst it will end a draw.

Don't worry mate, this bout is almost certain already that will happen in the next couple of months because so far, the respective camps discussion is flowing smoothly according to their plan. About the date and venue, organizers are looking forward to making the fight happen in the 20th of May at the Madison Square Garden, New York. However, it's not yet final.

This fight has to be one of the good fights that people are waiting since last year after Loma announced his return and got a fight last year. In fact, it's actually hard to predict the outcome of this bout because both boxers are good when it comes to technicalities and fast as well in reacting. But, some people are not that certain for Loma because his recent fight shows that he is not that fast anymore.

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January 18, 2023, 02:25:40 AM
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Haney is a Muslim, and if I'm not mistaken, Ramadan will take place March 22 and will end April 21.
I just knew this one from you, thanks for this. One month of preparation will be okay i think (after the Ramadan) for a boxer like Haney.
I didn't know this too so thank you for that information.
They are strict with their Muslim rules and I think Devin Haney already notified his managers about that event. It's sacred so it should be respected.

If ever the odds will come out how much do you guys think the difference will be? Is Devin Haney a heavy favorite like the odds in Tank Davis' fight against Hector Garcia? IIRC, it's Davis @1.05 only. Or will it be a near fight.
I can see different predictions from a few websites right now with Haney @1.50 and Vasiliy Lomachenco @2.60 -ish but I know they are not accurate yet.
A big change could happen before the fight.
I've also seen a tweet that it won't take place in Madison Square Garden. So Vegas or Crypto.com Arena or what the fans are hyping up or suggesting, Middle East, Saudi Arabia.

Yeah, I think it's about right that Haney could be around @1.50 betting favorite, but Loma should not be far behind, for me it should be around @2.20'ish.

They are just trying to look for the venue that will really maximized their profits I guess, but in any case, it will be a huge fight regardless of the venue. Much better if it will be the US though for me.

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January 18, 2023, 02:52:59 AM
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The votes in the poll are already 50/50. It means half thinks Devin Haney will prevail over Vasiliy Lomachenko but the other half thinks the other way around, that the older Lomachenko will defeat the champion Haney. This is a surprising result because the gambling odds released at this point suggest that Haney is the favorite and Loma is the underdog. The odds are even far from even. It means the fight is most probably favoring the younger fighter.
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January 18, 2023, 03:33:51 AM
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The votes in the poll are already 50/50. It means half thinks Devin Haney will prevail over Vasiliy Lomachenko but the other half thinks the other way around, that the older Lomachenko will defeat the champion Haney. This is a surprising result because the gambling odds released at this point suggest that Haney is the favorite and Loma is the underdog. The odds are even far from even. It means the fight is most probably favoring the younger fighter.

It's hard to predict, as what we have seen that Loma seems to get old overnight against Ortiz. But this might not be case in this fight as the stake are very high. And with such talent, for sure Loma will have to elevated his game against a young champion in Devin Haney. So even our boxing fans here are split as who will win this fight. And if the fight is listed on the sports bookies as well, it might be close with Haney taking a slight lead as betting favorite.

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January 18, 2023, 03:51:27 AM
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The votes in the poll are already 50/50. It means half thinks Devin Haney will prevail over Vasiliy Lomachenko but the other half thinks the other way around, that the older Lomachenko will defeat the champion Haney. This is a surprising result because the gambling odds released at this point suggest that Haney is the favorite and Loma is the underdog. The odds are even far from even. It means the fight is most probably favoring the younger fighter.

If Loma is 10 yrs younger the odds could be a bit confusing whom to favour. Haney only is the most favourite because of how well he fought as he moved forward with his career, especially with how he fought Kambosos. Loma on the other hand, have seen a slight rust due to his age, but still he managed to make a come back after that loss to Lopez. So, that explains why people in this community thinks Loma still have plenty left in his tank to get this job done.
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January 18, 2023, 01:08:59 PM
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The votes in the poll are already 50/50. It means half thinks Devin Haney will prevail over Vasiliy Lomachenko but the other half thinks the other way around, that the older Lomachenko will defeat the champion Haney. This is a surprising result because the gambling odds released at this point suggest that Haney is the favorite and Loma is the underdog. The odds are even far from even. It means the fight is most probably favoring the younger fighter.

If Loma is 10 yrs younger the odds could be a bit confusing whom to favour. Haney only is the most favourite because of how well he fought as he moved forward with his career, especially with how he fought Kambosos. Loma on the other hand, have seen a slight rust due to his age, but still he managed to make a come back after that loss to Lopez. So, that explains why people in this community thinks Loma still have plenty left in his tank to get this job done.

Well, sports betting sites and their analysts based their analysis without involving emotions. While many of us fight fans will vote for our favorite fighters even if they are already past their primes. But I honestly voted for Haney in the poll even if I wanted Loma to win.

If this fight happened 10 years ago, no doubt, The Matrix will be a huge favorite. His confidence, aggression, and lateral movements will be at a whole different level. I'd never seen Loma facing any difficulties when he was in his 20s except when he fought the overweight balls hitter Orlando Salido in his 2nd pro fight which could've gone either way.

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January 19, 2023, 01:32:13 AM
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The votes in the poll are already 50/50. It means half thinks Devin Haney will prevail over Vasiliy Lomachenko but the other half thinks the other way around, that the older Lomachenko will defeat the champion Haney. This is a surprising result because the gambling odds released at this point suggest that Haney is the favorite and Loma is the underdog. The odds are even far from even. It means the fight is most probably favoring the younger fighter.

It's hard to predict, as what we have seen that Loma seems to get old overnight against Ortiz. But this might not be case in this fight as the stake are very high. And with such talent, for sure Loma will have to elevated his game against a young champion in Devin Haney. So even our boxing fans here are split as who will win this fight. And if the fight is listed on the sports bookies as well, it might be close with Haney taking a slight lead as betting favorite.

Actually there are already odds released for this fight by some bookies. But I haven't seen the odds of my crypto sports betting platform. But if you try to search for betting odds for this fight, you can already find some. Betfair has odds of 1.44 for Devin Haney and 2.75 for Vasyl Lomachenko. Those odds are not really close. Haney is really the favorite and Lomachenko the underdog. Unlike in the poll here, the odds are saying this is not a 50/50 fight.
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