[Boxing] Devin Haney vs Vasiliy Lomachenco - May 20

[goldkingcoiner]

Not sure though how you see Haney as a offensive boxer, no offense, but he plays more as a defensive fighter like Floyd. He is bigger if that is what you mean by massive, he has the length. If there will be a offensive boxer here in this rematch, it will be Loma, when his 'hi-tech' style and approach.

Sorry that was my bad, of course I meant defensive not offensive style. Obviously. I just got a bit mixed up who I meant lol. Once Haney finds an opening, his counter punching combos are really nice to watch. Not so much his signature jabs but that might be where defensive styles lack style. He really seems to like parrying from a higher guard stance with his jab.

But his attack combos? The transitions are really nice.

I just think his size will be the deciding factor when combined with his defense in his fight vs Loma..

[Jating]

Not sure though how you see Haney as a offensive boxer, no offense, but he plays more as a defensive fighter like Floyd. He is bigger if that is what you mean by massive, he has the length. If there will be a offensive boxer here in this rematch, it will be Loma, when his 'hi-tech' style and approach.

Sorry that was my bad, of course I meant defensive not offensive style. Obviously. I just got a bit mixed up who I meant lol. Once Haney finds an opening, his counter punching combos are really nice to watch. Not so much his signature jabs but that might be where defensive styles lack style. He really seems to like parrying from a higher guard stance with his jab.

But his attack combos? The transitions are really nice.

I just think his size will be the deciding factor when combined with his defense in his fight vs Loma..

When Devin size, yeah it could really be an advantage for him whoever he fight. Even if he fought a boxer with similar length, he still manages to win. At the same time, Loma also fought boxers that are taller and beat them.

So it's really a hard fight to pick as both as his strengths, however, their style can also negate any advantages of their opponents.

Adjustment, both can do that as well in the middle of the fight, both have high boxing IQ.

[Cling18]

Not sure though how you see Haney as a offensive boxer, no offense, but he plays more as a defensive fighter like Floyd. He is bigger if that is what you mean by massive, he has the length. If there will be a offensive boxer here in this rematch, it will be Loma, when his 'hi-tech' style and approach.

Sorry that was my bad, of course I meant defensive not offensive style. Obviously. I just got a bit mixed up who I meant lol. Once Haney finds an opening, his counter punching combos are really nice to watch. Not so much his signature jabs but that might be where defensive styles lack style. He really seems to like parrying from a higher guard stance with his jab.

But his attack combos? The transitions are really nice.

I just think his size will be the deciding factor when combined with his defense in his fight vs Loma.

I've seen how Haney moved and I must say that he knows when to throw punches and he wisely targets his opponent's weakness so he'll know that his punches will have sure hits.
If he will still does the same thing when he faces Loma, he might also include countering and having a strong defense against him. Loma is also aggressive and that's something he should prepare for.

[Baofeng]

Not sure though how you see Haney as a offensive boxer, no offense, but he plays more as a defensive fighter like Floyd. He is bigger if that is what you mean by massive, he has the length. If there will be a offensive boxer here in this rematch, it will be Loma, when his 'hi-tech' style and approach.

Sorry that was my bad, of course I meant defensive not offensive style. Obviously. I just got a bit mixed up who I meant lol. Once Haney finds an opening, his counter punching combos are really nice to watch. Not so much his signature jabs but that might be where defensive styles lack style. He really seems to like parrying from a higher guard stance with his jab.

But his attack combos? The transitions are really nice.

I just think his size will be the deciding factor when combined with his defense in his fight vs Loma.

I've seen how Haney moved and I must say that he knows when to throw punches and he wisely targets his opponent's weakness so he'll know that his punches will have sure hits.
If he will still does the same thing when he faces Loma, he might also include countering and having a strong defense against him. Loma is also aggressive and that's something he should prepare for.

Only thing that I see is for Haney to do the pull counter, ye he has this one in his arsenal, but it is not as smooth or "beautiful", when Floyd throws it. And with his long reach, for sure it might hit Loma as some point throughout that fight. So we are going to watch that strategy if Haney wanted to score points every round. But then again, with Loma's IQ, he might find a way to offset that if he see the Haney is countering him nicely. So again, there could be weaknesses by this two, but they know how to figure and counter it as well.

[serjent05]

Sorry that was my bad, of course I meant defensive not offensive style. Obviously. I just got a bit mixed up who I meant lol. Once Haney finds an opening, his counter punching combos are really nice to watch. Not so much his signature jabs but that might be where defensive styles lack style. He really seems to like parrying from a higher guard stance with his jab.

But his attack combos? The transitions are really nice.

I just think his size will be the deciding factor when combined with his defense in his fight vs Loma..

When Devin size, yeah it could really be an advantage for him whoever he fight. Even if he fought a boxer with similar length, he still manages to win. At the same time, Loma also fought boxers that are taller and beat them.

So it's really a hard fight to pick as both as his strengths, however, their style can also negate any advantages of their opponents.

Adjustment, both can do that as well in the middle of the fight, both have high boxing IQ.

If Lomachenko performance is in its peak then i can say, Lomachenko has a better chance of winning because Loma's IQ is high enough to crack Haney's defence.  But if he perform like the last time, I think Lomachenko will lose this fight.  After all, Devin Hany performance gets better every fight.

Not sure though how you see Haney as a offensive boxer, no offense, but he plays more as a defensive fighter like Floyd. He is bigger if that is what you mean by massive, he has the length. If there will be a offensive boxer here in this rematch, it will be Loma, when his 'hi-tech' style and approach.

Sorry that was my bad, of course I meant defensive not offensive style. Obviously. I just got a bit mixed up who I meant lol. Once Haney finds an opening, his counter punching combos are really nice to watch. Not so much his signature jabs but that might be where defensive styles lack style. He really seems to like parrying from a higher guard stance with his jab.

But his attack combos? The transitions are really nice.

I just think his size will be the deciding factor when combined with his defense in his fight vs Loma.

I've seen how Haney moved and I must say that he knows when to throw punches and he wisely targets his opponent's weakness so he'll know that his punches will have sure hits.
If he will still does the same thing when he faces Loma, he might also include countering and having a strong defense against him. Loma is also aggressive and that's something he should prepare for.

Yeah he exploits the mistakes and miss of his opponent.  That is how defensive player game style is.

[btc_angela]

Sorry that was my bad, of course I meant defensive not offensive style. Obviously. I just got a bit mixed up who I meant lol. Once Haney finds an opening, his counter punching combos are really nice to watch. Not so much his signature jabs but that might be where defensive styles lack style. He really seems to like parrying from a higher guard stance with his jab.

But his attack combos? The transitions are really nice.

I just think his size will be the deciding factor when combined with his defense in his fight vs Loma..

When Devin size, yeah it could really be an advantage for him whoever he fight. Even if he fought a boxer with similar length, he still manages to win. At the same time, Loma also fought boxers that are taller and beat them.

So it's really a hard fight to pick as both as his strengths, however, their style can also negate any advantages of their opponents.

Adjustment, both can do that as well in the middle of the fight, both have high boxing IQ.

If Lomachenko performance is in its peak then i can say, Lomachenko has a better chance of winning because Loma's IQ is high enough to crack Haney's defence.  But if he perform like the last time, I think Lomachenko will lose this fight.  After all, Devin Hany performance gets better every fight.

That's the only time that we might have seen Loma is a bad performance, even when he lost to Teo and had problems with his shoulder, he still manage to engage him. Is this the sign that Loma is slowing down because of age?

I don't think so, most likely, its a combination of factors like long layoff and still the war in his mind in the background.

But he can't be distracted against Haney here, he should be mentally prepared otherwise he might lose this and never got a chance to fight for a world title because he is not getting any younger.

[lienfaye]

Sorry that was my bad, of course I meant defensive not offensive style. Obviously. I just got a bit mixed up who I meant lol. Once Haney finds an opening, his counter punching combos are really nice to watch. Not so much his signature jabs but that might be where defensive styles lack style. He really seems to like parrying from a higher guard stance with his jab.

But his attack combos? The transitions are really nice.

I just think his size will be the deciding factor when combined with his defense in his fight vs Loma..

When Devin size, yeah it could really be an advantage for him whoever he fight. Even if he fought a boxer with similar length, he still manages to win. At the same time, Loma also fought boxers that are taller and beat them.

So it's really a hard fight to pick as both as his strengths, however, their style can also negate any advantages of their opponents.

Adjustment, both can do that as well in the middle of the fight, both have high boxing IQ.

If Lomachenko performance is in its peak then i can say, Lomachenko has a better chance of winning because Loma's IQ is high enough to crack Haney's defence.  But if he perform like the last time, I think Lomachenko will lose this fight.  After all, Devin Hany performance gets better every fight.

That's the only time that we might have seen Loma is a bad performance, even when he lost to Teo and had problems with his shoulder, he still manage to engage him. Is this the sign that Loma is slowing down because of age?

I don't think so, most likely, its a combination of factors like long layoff and still the war in his mind in the background.

But he can't be distracted against Haney here, he should be mentally prepared otherwise he might lose this and never got a chance to fight for a world title because he is not getting any younger.

Well, Loma is not too old to think it's because of his age, I'd like to believe it's because of his background that's why he is rusty in his last fight. It might not be his best performance like what fans looked forward for but still he did well and managed to win.

Anyway, he really need to improve his performance if he wants to beat Haney incase their fight will push through. Because Haney is fearless, confident and an impressive boxer. Moreover he is much younger which is an advantage for him.

[Yamifoud]

Well, Loma is not too old to think it's because of his age, I'd like to believe it's because of his background that's why he is rusty in his last fight. It might not be his best performance like what fans looked forward for but still he did well and managed to win.

He must have been a little complacent in that fight because he was the heavy favorite, and we're just not impressed with his performance. Anyway, he did his job and won the fight, so I think he still deserves the respect.

Anyway, he really need to improve his performance if he wants to beat Haney incase their fight will push through. Because Haney is fearless, confident and an impressive boxer. Moreover he is much younger which is an advantage for him.

This one is different, though. He is the underdog, and he understands that it's the biggest fight of his career. A young champion is trying to dominate, but Loma is still definitely here. Maybe he's not in his prime based on what we've seen, but he will try to prove us wrong in this fight.

[Russlenat]

Anyway, he really need to improve his performance if he wants to beat Haney incase their fight will push through. Because Haney is fearless, confident and an impressive boxer. Moreover he is much younger which is an advantage for him.

This one is different, though. He is the underdog, and he understands that it's the biggest fight of his career. A young champion is trying to dominate, but Loma is still definitely here. Maybe he's not in his prime based on what we've seen, but he will try to prove us wrong in this fight.

Yes, and the majority believe that Loma will lose because he is no longer in his prime. Judgments like that from fans can be very challenging for Loma. Hopefully, he will use it as inspiration to prove to the world that he's still here, and he can do that by giving Haney his first loss.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Anyway, he really need to improve his performance if he wants to beat Haney incase their fight will push through. Because Haney is fearless, confident and an impressive boxer. Moreover he is much younger which is an advantage for him.

This one is different, though. He is the underdog, and he understands that it's the biggest fight of his career. A young champion is trying to dominate, but Loma is still definitely here. Maybe he's not in his prime based on what we've seen, but he will try to prove us wrong in this fight.

Yes, and the majority believe that Loma will lose because he is no longer in his prime. Judgments like that from fans can be very challenging for Loma. Hopefully, he will use it as inspiration to prove to the world that he's still here, and he can do that by giving Haney his first loss.

I don't think we should think that way, I mean he might lose some steps and base on his last fight, he doesn't look good. But I think Loma is still very unpredictable in his fight against Loma. Maybe he will train hard and go back to where he used to be prior to his injury or even participating in the war.

So let's not judge him base on just 1 fight.

He can still turn around his career and if he is going to be a underdog, then win via upset for all we know and prove all his detractors wrongs.

[AverageGlabella]

Anyway, he really need to improve his performance if he wants to beat Haney incase their fight will push through. Because Haney is fearless, confident and an impressive boxer. Moreover he is much younger which is an advantage for him.

This one is different, though. He is the underdog, and he understands that it's the biggest fight of his career. A young champion is trying to dominate, but Loma is still definitely here. Maybe he's not in his prime based on what we've seen, but he will try to prove us wrong in this fight.

Yes, and the majority believe that Loma will lose because he is no longer in his prime. Judgments like that from fans can be very challenging for Loma. Hopefully, he will use it as inspiration to prove to the world that he's still here, and he can do that by giving Haney his first loss.

No longer in his prime but he is still 1 of the best in the world. The odds are stacked against him because he is the older fighter and he has declined the older he has got but I think people are being unfair and forget how good Lomachenko is because he was dominant for many years when he was at his prime and because he loses his recent fights people think he is finished but he still has a good chance of beating Devin Haney or any one that he goes against. He has lost speed but he is still very good technically and I think he could beat Devin Haney if Devin does not take this seriously.

[Kemarit]

Anyway, he really need to improve his performance if he wants to beat Haney incase their fight will push through. Because Haney is fearless, confident and an impressive boxer. Moreover he is much younger which is an advantage for him.

This one is different, though. He is the underdog, and he understands that it's the biggest fight of his career. A young champion is trying to dominate, but Loma is still definitely here. Maybe he's not in his prime based on what we've seen, but he will try to prove us wrong in this fight.

Yes, and the majority believe that Loma will lose because he is no longer in his prime. Judgments like that from fans can be very challenging for Loma. Hopefully, he will use it as inspiration to prove to the world that he's still here, and he can do that by giving Haney his first loss.

No longer in his prime but he is still 1 of the best in the world. The odds are stacked against him because he is the older fighter and he has declined the older he has got but I think people are being unfair and forget how good Lomachenko is because he was dominant for many years when he was at his prime and because he loses his recent fights people think he is finished but he still has a good chance of beating Devin Haney or any one that he goes against. He has lost speed but he is still very good technically and I think he could beat Devin Haney if Devin does not take this seriously.

His losses is early on his career against a very experience Orlando Salido and then to Teo Lopez, but that is when Loma has injuries. So he is not 100% on that fight. But when he is in the zone, against Nakatani on his comeback after that shoulder operation, or even against a former champion in Richard Comney, Loma can still fight high level. So I do agree, the degree is somewhat disrespectful to Loma against Devin Haney. But when the odds are stack up against a great boxer, they usually level up their performance, IMHO.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Speculations grow regarding this fight:
Eddie Hearn Siding With Devin Haney: “He’ll Beat Lomachenko Handily”

Eddie Hearn is playing the crowd favorite, well, he has his own judgment, then be it. But as for me, I'm a believer in Lomachenco, so regardless of the betting odds or even if he is the underdog, I still have my confidence in him to show the world that he is still in his prime.

Also, Eddie Hearn sharing which side he is rooting for will only attract more bettors on Haney, which is good for the odds of Loma.

Well, in my personal opinion, I would like Loma to win, because it seems to me that he is a boxer who has a lot of desire, he is very thirsty for victory and also his fighting style is very good, I have seen the combinations he gives and they are effective, besides that a fighter is not seen as technical but is similar to those boxers of the old school, those who like to knock out, they like things very clear and that everything does not go to a merely technical scheme where They do some speculative things and manage to win thanks to that, although it's something legal but I think the fans don't like it in that aspect.


Well here things get interesting:

Shakur Stevenson to face winner of Devin Haney vs Vasiliy Lomachenko if successful against Shuichiro Yoshino

Shakur Stevenson may be yet to make his lightweight debut, but his promoter Bob Arum is already planning his next fight.

The 25-year-old Stevenson 19-0 (9) is set to take on Japanese puncher Shuichiro Yoshino 16-0 (12) at the Prudential Center in his hometown of Newark, New Jersey on April 8th.

“The Japanese boy is a tremendous puncher. He’s undefeated and the guy that we work with in Japan thinks he’s extraordinarily talented,” Arum said to iD Boxing.

If successful, Arum plans to match Stevenson with one of the other big names on the Top Rank roster.

“You know what we think about Shakur and that he’s on the pound-for-pound list as one of the great fighters today,” he said. “So if Shakur beats the Japanese, and it’s going to be a tough fight, then our plan would be to match Shakur against the winner of Haney-Lomachenko. That’s another massive fight.

“The plan is to have him fight the Haney-Loma winner. If Haney wins he’s talking about going to 140, so that makes a vacant title for Shakur. But if Loma wins, that’s a fight between Loma and Shakur that I would pay all kinds of money to watch.

“That’s really an unbelievable fight. Two really great students and artists in the game of boxing.”

Source: https://www.ringnews24.com/2023/02/17/shakur-stevenson-to-face-winner-of-devin-haney-vs-vasiliy-lomachenko-is-successful-against-shuichiro-yoshino/

[inthelongrun]

Lomachenko is very good and even looked invincible but that was during his prime. He is now in his mid 30s and physically he won't be the same anymore. If he wins over Haney, it means even his old version is still good enough to win just like what old Pacman, Donaire, GGG and Beterbiev are doing.

I'm amazed as to how Top Rank inspite Bob Arum getting old and not the same promoter as before and the recent lost of Crawford, it continues to have the best fighters. Shakur Stevenson with or without Loma and Haney will surely get his title fight this year. I believe Haney is moving up if he wins.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Shakur Stevenson says Devin Haney has no choice but fight him or vacate in 2023

It's too early to talk about this, I think Haney should beat Lomachenco in his upcoming fight, and let's see if Shakur and Hane's fight is going to happen. Loma is not going to give this fight easily to Haney, in fact, I believe that Loma has a good chance of beating Haney if he can use his accuracy. I mean, Loma is still here, he can fight and could win, so why are people underestimating him?

I'm also surprised that some are assuming that Haney is coming out as the certain winner of this battle. It is as if Haney is fighting against somebody who is not a good boxer. Will Haney surely win this fight? I don't think so. Perhaps they're only looking at physical stats or age or some numbers that Haney has higher or more than Loma, but Loma has not lost everything yet. He is still quick and athletic. He could actually defeat Haney. Somebody should remind Shakur of this.

Why not, right? Devin Haney earned his place and that's why he is favored by some and even already assumed that he would defeat Loma, not easily but eventually. Just like Devin's chances, that goes the same for Loma as he's not guaranteed too. Let's just try to move-on because the world is moving and Loma might not be the same anymore, I know because I used to admire Loma's talent but after his defeat and long inactivity, something has changed.

The other reasons why Haney is favored is because he defeated the boxer who gave Loma's first defeat.

It doesn't seem bad to me that he fights Shakur, Haney is a very complete boxer, the question here is that the sponsors evaluate whether the fight is going to give them good money or not, because apparently what happened with the Nonito Donaire fight was something that did not add up to them in terms of money and the fight that they had already arranged with Moloney is not going to happen, they can say whatever but for me it is that.

However, when it comes to fighting, Haney has to rise to the challenge and fight, a boxer needs to have action and not just think about the money, when one boxer challenges another he should always say yes.

Shakur vs. Haney doesn't sound bad at all, what I think is that if that fight happens it will be very interesting, especially if Haney loses.


Vasyl Lomachenko Preparing For Devin Haney On May 20th

The undersized 135-lb contender Lomachenko (17-2, 11 KOs) states there are only “small issues” that need to be worked out in the negotiations before the fight with Haney (29-0, 15 KOs) is official for May 20th. If the fight falls through, Lomachenko will need to figure out if he wants to go after WBA secondary lightweight champion Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis or give up on the 135-lb division and return to 130. Bob Arum would like to have Lomachenko and Shakur Stevenson fight if Haney chooses to vacate his four belts to go up to 140. But unless there is a title on the line for that fight, it wouldn’t make sense for Lomachenko to fight Shakur because there would be nothing for him to gain.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/02/vasyl-lomachenko-preparing-for-devin-haney-on-may-20th/

[Kemarit]

Lomachenko is very good and even looked invincible but that was during his prime. He is now in his mid 30s and physically he won't be the same anymore. If he wins over Haney, it means even his old version is still good enough to win just like what old Pacman, Donaire, GGG and Beterbiev are doing.

I'm amazed as to how Top Rank inspite Bob Arum getting old and not the same promoter as before and the recent lost of Crawford, it continues to have the best fighters. Shakur Stevenson with or without Loma and Haney will surely get his title fight this year. I believe Haney is moving up if he wins.

Yeah, and Bob says that he Shakur is scheduled to fight the winner of this fight. Bob still attracts good boxers though, and those that don't want the control of Al Haymon and Oscar Dela Hoya. But there are boxers that also wanted to separate from him like Crawford, and like the more touted Edgar Berlanga

https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/1/18/23561168/edgar-berlanga-top-rank-part-ways-promotional-free-agent-boxing-news-2023

So let's see who's going to win in this fight because he still has his hands full in his next fight against Shakur.

[Kelvinid]

Lomachenko has predicted that Tank Davis will win against Garcia.

2023 Vasiliy Lomachenko favors Gervonta Davis over Ryan Garcia, talks Fury vs Usyk

On a Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia matchup
“I said before it’s very interesting fight. It depends how they prepare for this fight. If they prepare 100%, both, it will be very interesting and very hard for both, tough for both. Because they understand boxing and I think, my opinion, Gervonta Davis will win.

“He’s very technical, he has the power, he has the speed, and he knows how he needs to move. And he always fight with guys who are (taller) than him.”

I've also read some posts suggesting that Ryan Garcia doesn't like Lomachenko's prediction and would like to fight Lomachenko after he knocks out Tank Davis. What do you think - is Garcia being too disrespectful by making Lomachenko's prediction too personal?

[btc_angela]

Lomachenko has predicted that Tank Davis will win against Garcia.

2023 Vasiliy Lomachenko favors Gervonta Davis over Ryan Garcia, talks Fury vs Usyk

On a Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia matchup
“I said before it’s very interesting fight. It depends how they prepare for this fight. If they prepare 100%, both, it will be very interesting and very hard for both, tough for both. Because they understand boxing and I think, my opinion, Gervonta Davis will win.

“He’s very technical, he has the power, he has the speed, and he knows how he needs to move. And he always fight with guys who are (taller) than him.”

I've also read some posts suggesting that Ryan Garcia doesn't like Lomachenko's prediction and would like to fight Lomachenko after he knocks out Tank Davis. What do you think - is Garcia being too disrespectful by making Lomachenko's prediction too personal?

Of course, who would like to see someone betting against you in a fight. But I think Ryan Garcia shouldn't take this as personal attack on him. On the contrary, he could do the same, tell the public that Devin Haney will beat Loma so they are all even.

So another hype has been created, but I doubt that they will face in the future as Ryan might go to 140 lbs.

And Loma remain at 135 lbs because he is too small to move up.

[inthelongrun]

Lomachenko is very good and even looked invincible but that was during his prime. He is now in his mid 30s and physically he won't be the same anymore. If he wins over Haney, it means even his old version is still good enough to win just like what old Pacman, Donaire, GGG and Beterbiev are doing.

I'm amazed as to how Top Rank inspite Bob Arum getting old and not the same promoter as before and the recent lost of Crawford, it continues to have the best fighters. Shakur Stevenson with or without Loma and Haney will surely get his title fight this year. I believe Haney is moving up if he wins.

Yeah, and Bob says that he Shakur is scheduled to fight the winner of this fight. Bob still attracts good boxers though, and those that don't want the control of Al Haymon and Oscar Dela Hoya. But there are boxers that also wanted to separate from him like Crawford, and like the more touted Edgar Berlanga

https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/1/18/23561168/edgar-berlanga-top-rank-part-ways-promotional-free-agent-boxing-news-2023

So let's see who's going to win in this fight because he still has his hands full in his next fight against Shakur.

Personally, I like Eddie Hearn, he is the best since he is willing to risk his own fighters just for the sake of making the big fights and he's got DAZN also which has the deepest pocket. What is good about Bob Arum is his smarts and experience, he seems to be the most successful when it comes to making prospects into superstars. And Bob Arum acknowledges skills which is why he was able to guide and promote the very best like De La Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Crawford, and now Fury, Inoue, Taylor, Shakur, Loma, Haney, and many more.

Berlanga's contract with Top Rank ended and well, Matchroom is probably the richest promoter nowadays. Still, I believe Berlanga is a bust. He is a hype and won't become a champion which is most likely the reason why Top Rank is not willing to match Matchroom's offer.

Anyways, I wonder what the future of Haney and Shakur brings. They are very talented but their lack of power might limit the divisions they can conquer just like Loma accepted that lightweight is his last division.

[Jating]

Lomachenko is very good and even looked invincible but that was during his prime. He is now in his mid 30s and physically he won't be the same anymore. If he wins over Haney, it means even his old version is still good enough to win just like what old Pacman, Donaire, GGG and Beterbiev are doing.

I'm amazed as to how Top Rank inspite Bob Arum getting old and not the same promoter as before and the recent lost of Crawford, it continues to have the best fighters. Shakur Stevenson with or without Loma and Haney will surely get his title fight this year. I believe Haney is moving up if he wins.

Yeah, and Bob says that he Shakur is scheduled to fight the winner of this fight. Bob still attracts good boxers though, and those that don't want the control of Al Haymon and Oscar Dela Hoya. But there are boxers that also wanted to separate from him like Crawford, and like the more touted Edgar Berlanga

https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/1/18/23561168/edgar-berlanga-top-rank-part-ways-promotional-free-agent-boxing-news-2023

So let's see who's going to win in this fight because he still has his hands full in his next fight against Shakur.

Personally, I like Eddie Hearn, he is the best since he is willing to risk his own fighters just for the sake of making the big fights and he's got DAZN also which has the deepest pocket. What is good about Bob Arum is his smarts and experience, he seems to be the most successful when it comes to making prospects into superstars. And Bob Arum acknowledges skills which is why he was able to guide and promote the very best like De La Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Crawford, and now Fury, Inoue, Taylor, Shakur, Loma, Haney, and many more.

Berlanga's contract with Top Rank ended and well, Matchroom is probably the richest promoter nowadays. Still, I believe Berlanga is a bust. He is a hype and won't become a champion which is most likely the reason why Top Rank is not willing to match Matchroom's offer.

Anyways, I wonder what the future of Haney and Shakur brings. They are very talented but their lack of power might limit the divisions they can conquer just like Loma accepted that lightweight is his last division.

Same here mate, I think Top Rank knows that Berlanga is a bust and that's why Arum parted ways with this kid. Although he has been hype early, but in the last 2-3 fights, he doesn't look good at what it is expected of him.

But if he targeting Canelo for a bigger payday then yeah, Match Room will be the best fit for him.

I wouldn't call them richest promotion, they just have been in the US circuits for the the last 5 years if I'm not mistaken. And even there were predictions that he will not do good in the US soil, but so far he is doing a good job.