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May 20, 2023, 09:24:19 PM
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Most probably it's all just an act. Nothing really provoked him, Loma did nothing in interviews nor on the face-off. But because of that push, I think many fans will want to see a heated fight in the ring. It must be for the marketing deliberately done for wants to see whether Loma can have his revenge.

It happened too fast, Loma should have been cautious already the moment when Haney was talking to him that close. He was still smiling uncomfortably as lips gets closer  Grin

Or Loma is not that kind of fighter? Yeah he usually answers the trash talking, but maybe there is a language barrier here. But in any case, the push could be just an act on the part of Haney to sell the fight because he knows that the PPV numbers of Garcia-Davis did millions.

And so if they can do at least half of it, then there could be narratives that he can still sell fights even though he has a boring style and that the public loves a toe to toe knockout fight like the last one we have seen in this division, Ryan vs Tank.

Haney though still the outstanding favorite in this fight. 1.39 against Loma 2.95.

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May 20, 2023, 09:29:22 PM
 #442

Just makes the fight more exciting and interesting with that shove coming from Loma.

Other says that Loma already won the mind games because of that. And then there is question on how many times Haney is going to hug Loma when he become uneasy on this fight. And Haney is saying that Loma is dirty, but we can surely see who is the dirtier fighter with that old trick of pushing your opponents at the weigh in weight intentional or not.

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May 20, 2023, 09:40:19 PM
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Just makes the fight more exciting and interesting with that shove coming from Loma.

Other says that Loma already won the mind games because of that. And then there is question on how many times Haney is going to hug Loma when he become uneasy on this fight. And Haney is saying that Loma is dirty, but we can surely see who is the dirtier fighter with that old trick of pushing your opponents at the weigh in weight intentional or not.

The push has people talking about the fight on social media, and I heard guys talking about it at the barber shop. I think Haney achieved his goal, which was drum up some interest for the fight.

You know that people love story lines. Now we have some bad blood flowing and people want to see if that spills over into the fight.

I don't think many people even knew they were fighting before the controversy.
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May 21, 2023, 04:38:30 AM
Last edit: May 21, 2023, 06:24:09 AM by Baofeng
 #444

It's the last round,

It's very close so far but I have Loma leading by just a point going into the 12th. Loma asserting himself from round 9 and become the bigger guy here.

Edit: The scores were 116-112, 115-113 and 115-113 for Haney. Damn. They screw Loma here big time.

I had the same score going into the 12th but I gave Haney that last round so for me it was a draw. I think there was enough swing rounds where you can make an argument for either guy winning. I won't call it a robbery but I would love to see a rematch to clear up any doubts. Haney seems like he's ready to move up in weight so there is no guarantee that we will see a second fight.

Yes, it could also be a draw, but the scoring though, 116-112? In any case, I think Haney will stay and wait for Shakur for a bigger payday.

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May 21, 2023, 05:24:52 AM
 #445

It's the last round,

It's very close so far but I have Loma leading by just a point going into the 12th. Loma asserting himself from round 9 and become the bigger guy here.

Edit: The scores were 116-112, 115-113 and 115-113 for Haney. Damn. They screw Loma here big time.


I had the same score going into the 12th but I gave Haney that last round so for me it was a draw. I think there was enough swing rounds where you can make an argument for either guy winning. I won't call it a robbery but I would love to see a rematch to clear up any doubts. Haney seems like he's ready to move up in weight so there is no guarantee that we will see a second fight.

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May 21, 2023, 07:40:17 AM
 #446

It's the last round,

It's very close so far but I have Loma leading by just a point going into the 12th. Loma asserting himself from round 9 and become the bigger guy here.

Edit: The scores were 116-112, 115-113 and 115-113 for Haney. Damn. They screw Loma here big time.


I had the same score going into the 12th but I gave Haney that last round so for me it was a draw. I think there was enough swing rounds where you can make an argument for either guy winning. I won't call it a robbery but I would love to see a rematch to clear up any doubts. Haney seems like he's ready to move up in weight so there is no guarantee that we will see a second fight.

Boxing world is reacting though, it has been trending in Twitter with keyword "Robbery".



So I do agree, I also score the fight for Loma at least 7 rounds for him. But not sure if there will be a rematch, if I'm not mistaken, this is Haney's last fight with Top Rank and so we don't know if he will sign up and extend his contract or to go rival Matchroom.

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May 21, 2023, 07:55:28 AM
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If I were Haney, I would not be happy for that win. I just hope that Devin realize that it could maximum be a draw in that fight, not his victory. Like I have said, Loma should have started pressing and doing max earlier. Until round 9 it was 4-4 between them. Haney received so many punches in 11th round, grabbing ropes, clinches, that I was surprised he survived. UD… Crappy judges.

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Another ridiculous scorecard in boxing Cheesy

Loma clearly win the match, no debate. I don't see Haney win at least for 6 rounds, no win for Haney or draw in this match. We don't need to use our eyes to see Loma dominating the fight, just hear what the commentators saying because they got hyped when Loma punch more accurately on Haney's face.

On the 11th round, Haney lose his footwork, that's clear sign how Haney got beaten by Loma.

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May 21, 2023, 08:36:43 AM
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If I were Haney, I would not be happy for that win. I just hope that Devin realize that it could maximum be a draw in that fight, not his victory. Like I have said, Loma should have started pressing and doing max earlier. Until round 9 it was 4-4 between them. Haney received so many punches in 11th round, grabbing ropes, clinches, that I was surprised he survived. UD… Crappy judges.

Boxing politics sucks these days, damn judges hehe. I'm sure that when they review the tape, Team Haney will realize that their guy was not dominating the match as he promised, in fact in my view, he was schooled by Loma but a win is a win so they will take this as a bonus and I do hope that they will schedule a rematch as soon as possible as Loma is not getting any younger.
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May 21, 2023, 08:58:42 AM
 #450

Another ridiculous scorecard in boxing Cheesy

Loma clearly win the match, no debate. I don't see Haney win at least for 6 rounds, no win for Haney or draw in this match. We don't need to use our eyes to see Loma dominating the fight, just hear what the commentators saying because they got hyped when Loma punch more accurately on Haney's face.

On the 11th round, Haney lose his footwork, that's clear sign how Haney got beaten by Loma.

I think Loma started slow again and Haney control the fight early with his length and those body shots. However, Haney engine started to get hot and rally late in the rounds and going into round 12 it's anybody's game. But I gave Loma the last round so that makes him the winner in my unofficial card.

But I do agree that the judges fix this match from the beginning they are not going to give Loma the win here unless it's a knockout.

You can see the emotions on Loma, when we thought that he is the matrix, he suddenly shows his emotion and cry.  Cry
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May 21, 2023, 09:02:02 AM
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If I were Haney, I would not be happy for that win. I just hope that Devin realize that it could maximum be a draw in that fight, not his victory. Like I have said, Loma should have started pressing and doing max earlier. Until round 9 it was 4-4 between them. Haney received so many punches in 11th round, grabbing ropes, clinches, that I was surprised he survived. UD… Crappy judges.

Boxing politics sucks these days, damn judges hehe. I'm sure that when they review the tape, Team Haney will realize that their guy was not dominating the match as he promised, in fact in my view, he was schooled by Loma but a win is a win so they will take this as a bonus and I do hope that they will schedule a rematch as soon as possible as Loma is not getting any younger.

True, another big time messed up by the judges here and the boxing pundits are not happy with the results and I do agree, it was highway robbery clear as day. Loma was dominating the last part of the fight specially the championships round.

Hopefully there will be a rematch, otherwise this might be the end of the road for Loma, his dreams of becoming a undisputed is not going to happen. On the other hand, you can see the expression of Haney after the announcement, he was very elated because he knows he could have lost the belt here.

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May 21, 2023, 09:07:39 AM
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It's the last round,

It's very close so far but I have Loma leading by just a point going into the 12th. Loma asserting himself from round 9 and become the bigger guy here.

Edit: The scores were 116-112, 115-113 and 115-113 for Haney. Damn. They screw Loma here big time.



This is a heartbreak loss for Loma and the boxing community, even if you're a fan of Haney you will not like the final score I'm ok with a split decision or a draw but a unanimous decision, come on I can shout it a robbery and no one can debate that.

The final two rounds which are the championship rounds are clearly dominated by Loma it's hard to figure out where the judges are looking even the experts thought the fight is too close and could have been a draw or Loma wins.


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May 21, 2023, 09:24:40 AM
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This is a heartbreak loss for Loma and the boxing community, even if you're a fan of Haney you will not like the final score I'm ok with a split decision or a draw but a unanimous decision, come on I can shout it a robbery and no one can debate that.


Well, nowadays this is the norm when you came to the fight as the underdog because in order to win, you need to either knockout or dominate every round to clear every doubt for the judges. As expected, Loma's experience is too much for Davin Haney to get an easy win and this is a hard lesson for him because not all opponents he will meet in the future will be as easy as the last boxers he fought in the past. there will come a time when he will face someone that makes him use every skill he knows in boxing in order to win the fight just like what Loma did to him tonight.

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May 21, 2023, 10:46:46 AM
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When it comes to the judge's decision, anything can happen in pro boxing. It's well known that in pro you need to KO to secure your win. I think Loma understands that and he put a dominant performance to offset the biased decision, but it's still not enough. If this is an amateur fight, Loma easily wins. Well, I'm a bit sad that my hero lost, but it is what it is. It's his fault to go up 135 and challenging the undisputed champ with a hometown advantage. You just can't demand fair judges in pro boxing.

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May 21, 2023, 11:03:14 AM
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What's going wrong with boxing judges when they have to judge a fight that gets a lot of attention? again we have another fight in which it looked like guy X would win and we see the decision of the judges when they gave the victory to guy Y, this frustrates the people who are watching the fight and who paid for tickets to watch the fight, I see a lot of comments criticizing the fight judges' decision and as I didn't watch the fight live so I had to go watch the replay of the fight, 37 minutes watching the fight and I'm not an expert and obviously I don't have even 2% of the level of knowledge that the judges who judged the fight there is a fight, but honestly if my opinion is worth anything I would say that Lomachenko deserved to win this fight

I found the words of Devin Haney's coach very funny when he was motivating Devin Haney, it looks like he was preparing a soldier for the battlefield and on the other side Vasiliy Lomachenko's coach spoke as calmly as possible, maybe he also had to be more tough on words, but leaving that funny part aside, the fact is that Vasiliy Lomachenko constantly pressured his opponent, he cornered his opponent and didn't hesitate to attack, while Devin Haney for most of the fight was defending himself and against he attacked when Lomachenk threw a punch, and also when Lomachenk hit Devin Haney, most of the time Devin Haney took the opportunity to throw a punch, even seeing that this is not a good move

but anyway, we have a winner declared by the judges and we also have a winner declared by the people who watched the fight, I hope that in the next fights we don't see decisions like that, it looks like the judges were sleeping during the whole fight and when they woke up they would declare Devin Haney as winner

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May 21, 2023, 11:14:36 AM
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When it comes to the judge's decision, anything can happen in pro boxing. It's well known that in pro you need to KO to secure your win. I think Loma understands that and he put a dominant performance to offset the biased decision, but it's still not enough. If this is an amateur fight, Loma easily wins. Well, I'm a bit sad that my hero lost, but it is what it is. It's his fault to go up 135 and challenging the undisputed champ with a hometown advantage. You just can't demand fair judges in pro boxing.

But this is definitely bad for boxing that is why its trending that people prefer to watch MMA more than boxing, its not a validation fight for Haney for me, and he could not hold that title for to long, all he does is run and he has a pillow fist, I don't think he hurt Loma or even got him in trouble.

Haney is another Mayweather in the making prefer to run and hug and counter punch he is hiding his weakness from the so called sweet science of boxing.

Loma has nothing to be ashame of he won the hearts of the boxing community, at 35 he is still got it and manage to dominate the young Haney, if there's a rematch its better it be held in a neutral ground.

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May 21, 2023, 11:15:40 AM
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What's going wrong with boxing judges when they have to judge a fight that gets a lot of attention? again we have another fight in which it looked like guy X would win and we see the decision of the judges when they gave the victory to guy Y, this frustrates the people who are watching the fight and who paid for tickets to watch the fight, I see a lot of comments criticizing the fight judges' decision and as I didn't watch the fight live so I had to go watch the replay of the fight, 37 minutes watching the fight and I'm not an expert and obviously I don't have even 2% of the level of knowledge that the judges who judged the fight there is a fight, but honestly if my opinion is worth anything I would say that Lomachenko deserved to win this fight

I found the words of Devin Haney's coach very funny when he was motivating Devin Haney, it looks like he was preparing a soldier for the battlefield and on the other side Vasiliy Lomachenko's coach spoke as calmly as possible, maybe he also had to be more tough on words, but leaving that funny part aside, the fact is that Vasiliy Lomachenko constantly pressured his opponent, he cornered his opponent and didn't hesitate to attack, while Devin Haney for most of the fight was defending himself and against he attacked when Lomachenk threw a punch, and also when Lomachenk hit Devin Haney, most of the time Devin Haney took the opportunity to throw a punch, even seeing that this is not a good move

but anyway, we have a winner declared by the judges and we also have a winner declared by the people who watched the fight, I hope that in the next fights we don't see decisions like that, it looks like the judges were sleeping during the whole fight and when they woke up they would declare Devin Haney as winner
I'm with you here. I watched the whole full replay too as I missed the live match and all I could see is Lomachenko scoring on half of the bout. He ended it strong in the 10th and 11th rounds and I was shocked how the other judge scored it at 116-112. Seems fishy or his eyes are not good anymore.
For me, Lomachenko won that match and we could all see in his expression how ridiculous the decision was. It's not even a split decision which is funnier, not one judge saw how he dominated most of the rounds.

Lomachenko did great and showed his craftiness, that's all I could say and he deserves that title. You are right, we have the judges' winner but we also have the people's champion and that's Lomachenko without a doubt.
Haney was definitely worried while he is talking with his cornermen during the fight and judging by how happy he is when his name was said, he didn't expect he will win it. He knows he was banged hard by Loma, especially those straight lefts.

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May 21, 2023, 05:28:07 PM
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If I were Haney, I would not be happy for that win. I just hope that Devin realize that it could maximum be a draw in that fight, not his victory. Like I have said, Loma should have started pressing and doing max earlier. Until round 9 it was 4-4 between them. Haney received so many punches in 11th round, grabbing ropes, clinches, that I was surprised he survived. UD… Crappy judges.

Boxing politics sucks these days, damn judges hehe. I'm sure that when they review the tape, Team Haney will realize that their guy was not dominating the match as he promised, in fact in my view, he was schooled by Loma but a win is a win so they will take this as a bonus and I do hope that they will schedule a rematch as soon as possible as Loma is not getting any younger.

Haven't manage myself to see the fight live and watched many videos in YouTube to avoid bias from every uploader so that I can see for myself who got the upper hand in the fight and who dominates who. I'd say Haney really lost it, in the first seven rounds, both of them got a good showdown while boxing back and forth in the ring, so it's really kind of hard to judge on that part but in the rounds 10 to 12, it is clear that Loma was the one who punished the opposing side and the current undisputed is seemingly not undisputed at all in-front of Loma.

Looks like we got another robbery in the boxing world folks, sad enough to see boxers who are getting unjust and unfair results. I mean, you can clear see from Lomachenko and from his team that it wasn't the result they were expecting and they are clearly not happy about it. Now, I'm not sure if a rematch will happen because Haney's team will be on the safe side while there was no rematch clause included on their contract.

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May 21, 2023, 06:17:16 PM
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Lomachenko did great and showed his craftiness, that's all I could say and he deserves that title. You are right, we have the judges' winner but we also have the people's champion and that's Lomachenko without a doubt.
Haney was definitely worried while he is talking with his cornermen during the fight and judging by how happy he is when his name was said, he didn't expect he will win it. He knows he was banged hard by Loma, especially those straight lefts.

They already felt that it might be the last day of Haney being the unified champion in lightweight division because unlike what they've said days or weeks before the fight, what happened was the opposite thing because it was Haney who was getting schooled by receiving Lomachenko's combination without any choice as he cannot predict what will happen next. By the time the announcer was talking, I know that they are already expecting a defeat which explains their faces when it was announced that Haney was able to retain his belts.

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May 21, 2023, 06:47:37 PM
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If I were Haney, I would not be happy for that win. I just hope that Devin realize that it could maximum be a draw in that fight, not his victory. Like I have said, Loma should have started pressing and doing max earlier. Until round 9 it was 4-4 between them. Haney received so many punches in 11th round, grabbing ropes, clinches, that I was surprised he survived. UD… Crappy judges.

Boxing politics sucks these days, damn judges hehe. I'm sure that when they review the tape, Team Haney will realize that their guy was not dominating the match as he promised, in fact in my view, he was schooled by Loma but a win is a win so they will take this as a bonus and I do hope that they will schedule a rematch as soon as possible as Loma is not getting any younger.

Haven't manage myself to see the fight live and watched many videos in YouTube to avoid bias from every uploader so that I can see for myself who got the upper hand in the fight and who dominates who. I'd say Haney really lost it, in the first seven rounds, both of them got a good showdown while boxing back and forth in the ring, so it's really kind of hard to judge on that part but in the rounds 10 to 12, it is clear that Loma was the one who punished the opposing side and the current undisputed is seemingly not undisputed at all in-front of Loma.

I had it even on the sixth round but after the sixth round it is where Loma dictate the phase of the fight.  Haney body punches were good but Loma's double left straight is way better.  The round 10 - 12 is obviously Loma's, or we can have it even on the 12th round.  I don't know if punches of Loma is too fast that judges hardly noticed them.

Looks like we got another robbery in the boxing world folks, sad enough to see boxers who are getting unjust and unfair results. I mean, you can clear see from Lomachenko and from his team that it wasn't the result they were expecting and they are clearly not happy about it. Now, I'm not sure if a rematch will happen because Haney's team will be on the safe side while there was no rematch clause included on their contract.

The fight is close but I have Loma winning, the best Devin could get is a draw but well, the judges said otherwise. 
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