[Boxing] Devin Haney vs Vasiliy Lomachenco - May 20

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Lomachenko did great and showed his craftiness, that's all I could say and he deserves that title. You are right, we have the judges' winner but we also have the people's champion and that's Lomachenko without a doubt.
Haney was definitely worried while he is talking with his cornermen during the fight and judging by how happy he is when his name was said, he didn't expect he will win it. He knows he was banged hard by Loma, especially those straight lefts.

They already felt that it might be the last day of Haney being the unified champion in lightweight division because unlike what they've said days or weeks before the fight, what happened was the opposite thing because it was Haney who was getting schooled by receiving Lomachenko's combination without any choice as he cannot predict what will happen next. By the time the announcer was talking, I know that they are already expecting a defeat which explains their faces when it was announced that Haney was able to retain his belts.

Not surprising that we here got the opposite decision and that Lomachenko should've won that fight despite the judge's decision to favor Devin Haney because even the people inside the venue watching the fight live is also opposing the judge's decision. But unfortunately, even if the fight will be reviewed by the board meticulously, I doubt that there will be a different outcome that will surface. Now, there should be rematch this year and Haney should be willing to make it happen if he wanted to redeem this fight because I know that he already knew that people aren't convinced the he won the fight.

[BitcoinPanther]

Lomachenko did great and showed his craftiness, that's all I could say and he deserves that title. You are right, we have the judges' winner but we also have the people's champion and that's Lomachenko without a doubt.
Haney was definitely worried while he is talking with his cornermen during the fight and judging by how happy he is when his name was said, he didn't expect he will win it. He knows he was banged hard by Loma, especially those straight lefts.

They already felt that it might be the last day of Haney being the unified champion in lightweight division because unlike what they've said days or weeks before the fight, what happened was the opposite thing because it was Haney who was getting schooled by receiving Lomachenko's combination without any choice as he cannot predict what will happen next. By the time the announcer was talking, I know that they are already expecting a defeat which explains their faces when it was announced that Haney was able to retain his belts.

Not surprising that we here got the opposite decision and that Lomachenko should've won that fight despite the judge's decision to favor Devin Haney because even the people inside the venue watching the fight live is also opposing the judge's decision. But unfortunately, even if the fight will be reviewed by the board meticulously, I doubt that there will be a different outcome that will surface. Now, there should be rematch this year and Haney should be willing to make it happen if he wanted to redeem this fight because I know that he already knew that people aren't convinced the he won the fight.

I read that the camp of Lomachenco is not satisfied with the decision and is planning to file a petition to contest the result.  I wonder if the judges will be sanctioned for their wrong judgement if the governing body found out that the decision is wrong.  Will the authority come up with a resolution of changing the decision and awarding the win to Lomachenco?  I read there are some instances where decision were corrected once the commission reviewed the fight and the recent is the fight between Casimero and Akaho where the no contest fight were corrected to TKO in favor of Casimero.

[bittraffic]

I doubt the decision to be reversed. 
Loma only looks like he dominated the fight because Haney is not staying in the center. He's maintaining the distance and just wants to throw jabs. When Loma comes he did a lot of clean body punches. Loma somehow found his range in the early rounds of the fight, high-level skills stealing the rounds. All I can say they deserve a 2nd fight.

[LUCKMCFLY]

This is going to be an interesting fight, Devin Haney for me is a master class in reading the rhythm of his opponent and sometimes he will study the habits of his opponent and use that to his advantage and make his jabs effective because of it, Devin Haney will surely study his opponent for sure, and he could also do this to Vasiliy Lomachenco and their upcoming fight, but for sure Vasiliy Lomachenco will expect this and for me Devin Haney is getting ready and anticipating all of the possible moves that Vasiliy Lomachenco will do,

It will still be the skills and the style of this two. He can watch all the tapes of Loma in the past and maybe find some weakness. But we all know how technical Loma is in every fight so it might be a different version of him that is going to appear in this fight. Nevertheless, as you have said, Haney has a good boxing IQ as well so he can adjust in the middle of the fight.

Both boxers are already expecting that they have been studied well by watching each other's recent bouts, but definitely nobody is underestimating somebody here because if one of them does that, that will be an expensive mistake that they might regret soon as both boxers probably knew how talented they are. Let's expect that they will have a slow start and will take their time reading and observing each other's movement first before they commence on their respective plans.

Both is known to be a slow starter, unless they really found a loophole in the defense and take advantage of it. Both have high IQ so chess game in the beginning until someone has open up and the others taking that opening and maybe score a knock down.

So this is going to be high level match and it's really hard to predict the outcome although Haney is the favorite to win in this fight based on the odds of sports bookies. But Loma is still Loma though, again one of the best technical boxers we have seen so maybe he still has something inside of him in this fight. Just couple of weeks and for sure after the Davis vs Garcia, we are waiting for this because the winner could be fighting Tank Davis.

I have a lot of doubts about this fight, I didn't like the way Haney won, I didn't see a big boxing demonstration from him, but as you say hill is hill, for me he is an old school boxer and he is hungry, And the decision of this fight did not seem fair to him, I don't know what things can play against him, maybe the age factor? but he is a boxer who does not seem to have been affected by anything in life, he is very confident, and it is also seen that he does not have a bit of respect for Haney despite the result , in the boxing forums that I have seen they give Haney the go-ahead due to their Technical fight and their way of Winning , they also Put many Arguments to justify the Victory.

Vasyl Lomachenko's team set to appeal controversial Devin Haney decision loss

Vasyl Lomachenko and his team are set to appeal his controversial points loss to Devin Haney.

The Ukrainian star stepped into the ring with undisputed lightweight champion Haney last night in Las Vegas as he looked to return to the pinnacle of the sport after a gradual rebuild. However he fell short on the judges scorecards with a unanimous decision win awarded to his American rival, in controversial fashion.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/vasyl-lomachenko-devin-haney-fight-30034615

A very controversial fight, that's why when they go technical this kind of thing happens, for me Loma doesn't have a bit of respect for Haney.

[serjent05]

I doubt the decision to be reversed. 
Loma only looks like he dominated the fight because Haney is not staying in the center. He's maintaining the distance and just wants to throw jabs. When Loma comes he did a lot of clean body punches. Loma somehow found his range in the early rounds of the fight, high-level skills stealing the rounds. All I can say they deserve a 2nd fight.

Lomas punches are too fast and is hard to catch whether it connects or not.  If we watch the replay even the commentator did not see the body shot counter of Loma on the 1st round saying that Loma did not connect any body punches on that round when that punch was clearly seen in the slow-mo replay of the round.

As i watch the fight, I saw how huge Devin Haney is compared to Loma.  It is obvious that Devin Haney wanted to take advantage of his reach but was deciphered by Lomachenco in the middle round reason.  I believe even Devin Haney doesn't feel that he won the fight after the bell rang on the last round.  The reason why he is so happy when he heard his name announced as the winner.

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However, who is really losing the psychological tactics? During the face off, Haney appears to have lost his control on his emotions and pushed Lomachenko. This might show that there is fear in Haney. This might also become an advantage for Lomachenko if he can cause something similar in the ring hehe.

It appears that I might have underestimated the Ukranian. Can I change my vote? Change to 19 votes for Haney, 17 votes for Lomachenko hehehehehehe.

I'm surprised he did that, what's with Haney, I have seen a lot of his face-off and he is not like this he used to be very cool and gentlemanly what's with him, Loma is very cool it's like a normal routine for him it's like another fight for him and Haney feels like he is being underestimated by Loma, this is going to be a very good match to watch.
The first one to lose his cool and composure will likely make a mistake that the other guy can exploit.

I was not very surprised. There certainly was fear, uncertainty and doubt in Haney hehehe. Yes, fud can also be caused by the thoughts of the boxer himself. There were replies that this was not fear, however, Haney's performance has not shown his confidence hehe.

I predict Tank Davis to be the unified champion of this weight division within 2 years. It should be shorter, however, I am quite certain Haney will avoid Tank for the longest possible time.

[Oasisman]

Another robbery from a legendary fighter. Just because Loma is old and Haney is like 24 years old it seems like they are building up Haney's career as one of the top fighter, but nah I dont think I'd look at that way. Loma clearly won this fight, Haney just couldn't handle Loma's speed. What a shame in boxing industry, robbing a legendary fighter where everyone in the world saw the fight, but then these judges continued their fixed decisions despite of the very obvious result.
Well, in this fight Haney was the judge's champion, but Loma was really the winner in the eyes of the boxing fans.

[Botnake]

Another robbery from a legendary fighter. Just because Loma is old and Haney is like 24 years old it seems like they are building up Haney's career as one of the top fighter, but nah I dont think I'd look at that way. Loma clearly won this fight, Haney just couldn't handle Loma's speed. What a shame in boxing industry, robbing a legendary fighter where everyone in the world saw the fight, but then these judges continued their fixed decisions despite of the very obvious result.
Well, in this fight Haney was the judge's champion, but Loma was really the winner in the eyes of the boxing fans.

That was a close fight, but based on my opinion, I think Loma landed cleaner punches, and he was the aggressor in this fight. It's possible that the judges wanted more from Loma since he was the challenger, or it's safe to say that Haney's multiple belts and popularity influenced the decision.

I believe a rematch in this fight is needed. Initially, I thought Haney would be boring, but it seems like he listened to the fans' complaints about him being a boring fighter. He was able to engage in a toe-to-toe battle against Loma, and the young champion showed great durability.

[Kemarit]

And it was the long time manager of Loma objecting Dave Moretti to be the coach because of the record of this judge for controversial scoring. If we will recall he is the same judge that score 10-10 round 2 of Davis vs Garcia wherein Tank put Ryan in the canvass but it was not reflected by Moretti as he clearly put in even rounds, wherein it should be a clear 10-8 rounds for Davis. And what if that fight didn't end in a knockout but in the judges scorecard and then the same controversy?

[bisdak40]

I believe a rematch in this fight is needed. Initially, I thought Haney would be boring, but it seems like he listened to the fans' complaints about him being a boring fighter. He was able to engage in a toe-to-toe battle against Loma, and the young champion showed great durability.

Was not a boring fight because of Loma's aggressiveness, if the latter only countered whatever Haney throws then that could be a snore-feast but nevertheless it was an entertaining fight though the judges ruined the occasion (in the opinion of most not all).

Loma's manager will file a protest but i doubt it would be successful, the best thing they could do right now is to as for a rematch immediately and not bother to protest as it is a waste of time.

I predict Tank Davis to be the unified champion of this weight division within 2 years. It should be shorter, however, I am quite certain Haney will avoid Tank for the longest possible time.

Agree, Tank Davis will destroy Haney but if there is no rehydration clause or fighting in a catchweight, Tank Davis will be having trouble with Haney but definitely sooner or later, those bombs will flush on Haney's chin.

[Botnake]

I believe a rematch in this fight is needed. Initially, I thought Haney would be boring, but it seems like he listened to the fans' complaints about him being a boring fighter. He was able to engage in a toe-to-toe battle against Loma, and the young champion showed great durability.

Was not a boring fight because of Loma's aggressiveness, if the latter only countered whatever Haney throws then that could be a snore-feast but nevertheless it was an entertaining fight though the judges ruined the occasion (in the opinion of most not all).

Loma's manager will file a protest but i doubt it would be successful, the best thing they could do right now is to as for a rematch immediately and not bother to protest as it is a waste of time.

Yeah, it will take a lot of time before the decision is announced, and I believe Haney will still be declared the winner. Loma may have won in the eyes of many, but this isn't uncommon in boxing. The public perception doesn't necessarily align with the judges' decision, as they have the final say. Loma should have been more aggressive and aimed for a knockout victory to prevent the controversy that occurred.

Nevertheless, despite the loss, it still proves something, and that is Loma has not passed his prime yet.

[TopTort777]

Imho, Lomachenko landed more punches than Haney, but Haney's punches did more visual damage. The best solution would ne a draw in that fight and an immediate rematch (not like GGG vs Canelo third fight). But, as this was a title fight, that could possibly be no draw.

One of judges gave round 10 for Haney, while that was one of best Lomas rounds, same as 11th. How stupid that can be?

From the internet - Haney is "the most disputed "undisputed champion""  lol

[Jawhead999]

Imho, Lomachenko landed more punches than Haney, but Haney's punches did more visual damage.

Loma landed more punches to Haney's face, while Haney landed more punched to Loma's body. I think punch on face should be count higher than body punch because it's not easy to punch someone punch than his body.

Many people including professional boxers were surprised to see Haney won against Loma, but we're forgot the one who really surprised Haney can won the match is the Haney himself

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Imho, Lomachenko landed more punches than Haney, but Haney's punches did more visual damage.

Loma landed more punches to Haney's face, while Haney landed more punched to Loma's body. I think punch on face should be count higher than body punch because it's not easy to punch someone punch than his body.

What? It doesn't matter where the punch landed for as long as it landed clean on an allowed spot. This is boxing. Hitting the body has some purpose. It cannot be underestimated and given less score. In fact, it is a boxing strategy to target the body rather than the face. 

Many people including professional boxers were surprised to see Haney won against Loma, but we're forgot the one who really surprised Haney can won the match is the Haney himself

Even boxers and boxing analysts believe it was a robbery. I watched the replay and there were several rounds that could be given to either of them. And many were given to Haney. But Moretti's 10th round was indeed controversial, even unfair. I don't know how he saw it.

[Yogee]

Really hard to share an opinion when you're not in front of the match. The three judges scored it differently for eleven rounds but it's pretty clear they were unanimous in giving Haney the last round. The match could have ended in a majority draw had Loma done enough to win R12. That result would have been more acceptable and a rematch would most likely happen.

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I think punch on face should be count higher than body punch because it's not easy to punch someone punch than his body.

I don't think this will ever be implemented in Boxing but Taekwondo tournaments kinda score matches this way. A kick to the head is three points while normal body kick is two points.

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I doubt the decision to be reversed. 
Loma only looks like he dominated the fight because Haney is not staying in the center. He's maintaining the distance and just wants to throw jabs. When Loma comes he did a lot of clean body punches. Loma somehow found his range in the early rounds of the fight, high-level skills stealing the rounds. All I can say they deserve a 2nd fight.

Lomas punches are too fast and is hard to catch whether it connects or not.  If we watch the replay even the commentator did not see the body shot counter of Loma on the 1st round saying that Loma did not connect any body punches on that round when that punch was clearly seen in the slow-mo replay of the round.

As i watch the fight, I saw how huge Devin Haney is compared to Loma.  It is obvious that Devin Haney wanted to take advantage of his reach but was deciphered by Lomachenco in the middle round reason.  I believe even Devin Haney doesn't feel that he won the fight after the bell rang on the last round.  The reason why he is so happy when he heard his name announced as the winner.

Haney was just taking some chances that the judge's might favor him hence the big smile he showed after the announcer said the word "and still". While Loma cannot how frustrated he was and his camp, it's was too obvious that it wasn't the result they were expecting and they were not really happy of the outcome because if Loma did not won that fight, it should be a draw.

Anyway, right now, it's a good thing that they are appealing because what happened was really unfair to their side although I'm not expecting something positive because in these instances, it's already hard to retract the decision made. But hopefully justice will be served this time because Loma really did his best and in the end, he's just getting robbed.

[BitcoinPanther]

Even boxers and boxing analysts believe it was a robbery. I watched the replay and there were several rounds that could be given to either of them. And many were given to Haney. But Moretti's 10th round was indeed controversial, even unfair. I don't know how he saw it.

The score of Moretti's 10th round speaks it all.  It seems Loma is destined to lose on that match even before he step on the ring.  The two judges did not make it too obvious while Moretti got carried away and add more round to secure Haney's win.

There are lots of flash punch made by Loma which possibly judges did not see.  I was watching closely on the replay and the only noticeable punches of Haney that mostly connect are the body punches while Loma taking freedom of hitting Haney on the face.  The early round can go either way but the later round is obviously dictated by Loma.

If they scored it according to performance, Loma did a better performance since he is able to control Devin Haney despite the fact that Haney is too huge for him.  Loma is the aggressor and did beautiful counters.  But whatever our ranting here, the judge still has the power to give decision to the fight.  I wonder if these judges bet on Haney lol.

Here are some recent article about the reaction on Haney - Lomachenco result:

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Even boxers and boxing analysts believe it was a robbery. I watched the replay and there were several rounds that could be given to either of them. And many were given to Haney. But Moretti's 10th round was indeed controversial, even unfair. I don't know how he saw it.

The score of Moretti's 10th round speaks it all.  It seems Loma is destined to lose on that match even before he step on the ring.  The two judges did not make it too obvious while Moretti got carried away and add more round to secure Haney's win.

There are lots of flash punch made by Loma which possibly judges did not see.  I was watching closely on the replay and the only noticeable punches of Haney that mostly connect are the body punches while Loma taking freedom of hitting Haney on the face.  The early round can go either way but the later round is obviously dictated by Loma.

If they scored it according to performance, Loma did a better performance since he is able to control Devin Haney despite the fact that Haney is too huge for him.  Loma is the aggressor and did beautiful counters.  But whatever our ranting here, the judge still has the power to give decision to the fight.  I wonder if these judges bet on Haney lol.

Here are some recent article about the reaction on Haney - Lomachenco result:

And the Lomachenko camp is right in its decision to appeal Loma's loss. It was a robbery. Even if they won't win the appeal since a decision is very seldom reversed, at least they made a huge statement that there is this bad thing happening in boxing and perhaps it's about time some restructuring is done. Perhaps it's time to revisit the proposal to have 5 judges. This practice can't go on. Robberies like this in mega fights give the sport a bad name.

Honestly, I would have understood if the decision seems unfair but it is slightly tilted towards the better boxer. But Haney is not that man. He doesn't deserve this favor against the legendary Loma. He's not even exciting to watch.

[bisdak40]

I believe a rematch in this fight is needed. Initially, I thought Haney would be boring, but it seems like he listened to the fans' complaints about him being a boring fighter. He was able to engage in a toe-to-toe battle against Loma, and the young champion showed great durability.

Was not a boring fight because of Loma's aggressiveness, if the latter only countered whatever Haney throws then that could be a snore-feast but nevertheless it was an entertaining fight though the judges ruined the occasion (in the opinion of most not all).

Loma's manager will file a protest but i doubt it would be successful, the best thing they could do right now is to as for a rematch immediately and not bother to protest as it is a waste of time.

Yeah, it will take a lot of time before the decision is announced, and I believe Haney will still be declared the winner. Loma may have won in the eyes of many, but this isn't uncommon in boxing. The public perception doesn't necessarily align with the judges' decision, as they have the final say. Loma should have been more aggressive and aimed for a knockout victory to prevent the controversy that occurred.

Nevertheless, despite the loss, it still proves something, and that is Loma has not passed his prime yet.

And it also proves that Haney is not in his prime yet hehe.

I doubt that he could become a crowd drawer after his recent performance, it even made him appear as if he needed more wins to become a PPV star, he's all just talking and shoving.

As for the protest, I agree that the decision would be overturned but nevertheless, it gives an impression to the concerned people that most in the boxing community don't agree with their decision.

A rematch will settle this argument but with different judges and as soon as possible.

[TopTort777]

Imho, Lomachenko landed more punches than Haney, but Haney's punches did more visual damage.

Loma landed more punches to Haney's face, while Haney landed more punched to Loma's body. I think punch on face should be count higher than body punch because it's not easy to punch someone punch than his body.

Many people including professional boxers were surprised to see Haney won against Loma, but we're forgot the one who really surprised Haney can won the match is the Haney himself

Why do you think head punch should be more valued than body punch ? Head punches only make damage more visible. Simply because here arent so much muscles and "meat" on the face. Just skin and skull. But body punches are important two. They force opponent to lose stamina and mobility. In fact, if Haney landed more body punches, why would Loma be so quick in late rounds? It seems that he landed most of the elbows and only few, perhaps about 10, connected clearly.