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May 25, 2023, 11:04:03 AM
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Haney and Top Rank should be happy that they got that numbers and the money.
They cannot be happy if the expectation is high but the outcome is low. I suppose Haney needs to change his style from boring to an exciting boxer. That would certainly attract more viewers, especially if he keeps winning with his new style. Mayweather was boring, yet he was a PPV king. Haney cannot just use that as a basis, as he is not as good as Mayweather. Additionally, people's tastes may have changed since there are plenty of exciting boxers in the sport who are worth spending on PPV subscriptions.
Of course in every fight PPV expectations are set to be high, but if you didn't sell well and it's below expectations then you can't do anything about it. And that's why everyone criticized Haney because he doesn't bring numbers to the table as compare to Tank Davis. So I doubt that Haney will become PPV king, no way that he can sell 500k PPV unless it's Davis that he wil be fighting next.

Even if he fought Shakur, it might be the same numbers are Loma or less. You can't compare him to Floyd, he is very different when he promotes the fight and he can back up his trash talking in the ring. Haney on the other hand will have to shove Loma to get the boxing media hype on this fight. And it backfired on him as it cost $400k out of his purse.

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May 25, 2023, 06:57:47 PM
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Anyone knows who is going to be Haney next opponent? Wonder how he would look when he would defence his belts. I wonder if Loma and Haney would ever meet again. Fans would love to see their second fight, it would answer all the questions, but I think both, Loma and Haney are not looking forward for another fight.

As for a rematch between Loma and Haney, there's a slight chance that it will happen as aside from there's no rematch clause in their contract, Haney's side is already looking forward to see the next chapter and a chapter that doesn't have Loma on it. We may have our own speculations in Haney's next foe, but as per rumors, it's considered that it will be between Shakur Stevenson or Gervonta Davis.

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May 25, 2023, 07:47:49 PM
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Anyone knows who is going to be Haney next opponent? Wonder how he would look when he would defence his belts. I wonder if Loma and Haney would ever meet again. Fans would love to see their second fight, it would answer all the questions, but I think both, Loma and Haney are not looking forward for another fight.

As for a rematch between Loma and Haney, there's a slight chance that it will happen as aside from there's no rematch clause in their contract, Haney's side is already looking forward to see the next chapter and a chapter that doesn't have Loma on it. We may have our own speculations in Haney's next foe, but as per rumors, it's considered that it will be between Shakur Stevenson or Gervonta Davis.

Shakur is wanting the fight.  He even stated that he don't need any tune up fight and can fight straight against Haney.[1]

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“Nah, I don’t need one more fight [at 135 pounds]. I’m ready to fight [Haney] as soon as he’s ready. He just fought. So as soon as he’s settled down and can get himself together, I’m ready to fight,” said Stevenson.

On the other hand, Haney stated that the match between him and Tank Davis may come sooner: Devin Haney: Me & Tank Is A Massive Fight; It’s Gonna Happen Sooner Than Later

No matter who Haney pick, I think it will be another interesting match.



[1] https://www.boxingscene.com/stevenson-haney-better-expected-vs-loma-hes-no-1-not-long-its-time-we-fight--174867
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May 25, 2023, 09:09:42 PM
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Anyone knows who is going to be Haney next opponent? Wonder how he would look when he would defence his belts. I wonder if Loma and Haney would ever meet again. Fans would love to see their second fight, it would answer all the questions, but I think both, Loma and Haney are not looking forward for another fight.

As for a rematch between Loma and Haney, there's a slight chance that it will happen as aside from there's no rematch clause in their contract, Haney's side is already looking forward to see the next chapter and a chapter that doesn't have Loma on it. We may have our own speculations in Haney's next foe, but as per rumors, it's considered that it will be between Shakur Stevenson or Gervonta Davis.

Shakur is wanting the fight.  He even stated that he don't need any tune up fight and can fight straight against Haney.[1]

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“Nah, I don’t need one more fight [at 135 pounds]. I’m ready to fight [Haney] as soon as he’s ready. He just fought. So as soon as he’s settled down and can get himself together, I’m ready to fight,” said Stevenson.

On the other hand, Haney stated that the match between him and Tank Davis may come sooner: Devin Haney: Me & Tank Is A Massive Fight; It’s Gonna Happen Sooner Than Later

No matter who Haney pick, I think it will be another interesting match.



[1] https://www.boxingscene.com/stevenson-haney-better-expected-vs-loma-hes-no-1-not-long-its-time-we-fight--174867

Yes, as what we say, all roads lead to Haney now as he is still the undisputed champion. And it really depend on his team and his father, which fight makes sense, in terms of money and maybe the legacy. This is his last fight with Top Rank and Shakur is with that promotional banner. On the other hand if he goes back to Matchroom then who knows how the negotiation might turn out.

So yeah, it's going to be interesting fight either man, but maybe Haney might also considering moving up to 140 lbs. I mean there could be money in either of the fights but it's a question whether his body will allow him to squeeze to 135 without any issues because for sure it might affect him negatively.

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May 26, 2023, 08:09:29 AM
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Anyone knows who is going to be Haney next opponent? Wonder how he would look when he would defence his belts. I wonder if Loma and Haney would ever meet again. Fans would love to see their second fight, it would answer all the questions, but I think both, Loma and Haney are not looking forward for another fight.

As for a rematch between Loma and Haney, there's a slight chance that it will happen as aside from there's no rematch clause in their contract, Haney's side is already looking forward to see the next chapter and a chapter that doesn't have Loma on it. We may have our own speculations in Haney's next foe, but as per rumors, it's considered that it will be between Shakur Stevenson or Gervonta Davis.

After being robbed so dirty, I think Loma does not want that rematch. If they would have a rematch, Haney would be more prepared, he now knows Lomas boxing (I though Haney looked a bit lost in that fight, specially after Loma dominated in late rounds (round 11 i.e.). If Haney wins, he would taunt everyone for being boxing pound for pound king. Haney does not want that rematch either imho. Because his victory wasnt a dominant. He understands (I hope), that judges made him win, not he won that fight.

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May 26, 2023, 01:43:24 PM
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Anyone knows who is going to be Haney next opponent? Wonder how he would look when he would defence his belts. I wonder if Loma and Haney would ever meet again. Fans would love to see their second fight, it would answer all the questions, but I think both, Loma and Haney are not looking forward for another fight.

As for a rematch between Loma and Haney, there's a slight chance that it will happen as aside from there's no rematch clause in their contract, Haney's side is already looking forward to see the next chapter and a chapter that doesn't have Loma on it. We may have our own speculations in Haney's next foe, but as per rumors, it's considered that it will be between Shakur Stevenson or Gervonta Davis.

After being robbed so dirty, I think Loma does not want that rematch. If they would have a rematch, Haney would be more prepared, he now knows Lomas boxing (I though Haney looked a bit lost in that fight, specially after Loma dominated in late rounds (round 11 i.e.). If Haney wins, he would taunt everyone for being boxing pound for pound king. Haney does not want that rematch either imho. Because his victory wasnt a dominant. He understands (I hope), that judges made him win, not he won that fight.

I think it was confirmed that Lomachenco's camp had file an appeal about the judges decision on the fight and Devin Haney somehow become outrage bad mouthing Lomachenco saying he is a f****** loser.



Along with the appeal, Lomachenco's camp also file another appeal to remove Shakur Stevenson as Haney's mandatory  WBC challenger.  It was disclosed in this yt video: Shocking: Lomachenko Files Petition To Remove Shakur Stevenson As Devin Haney Mandatory WBC  .

I don't know if the decision of the fight can be overturned because there had been lots of cases like that but it is very rare to get the decision overturned.
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May 28, 2023, 05:44:09 AM
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As for the Haney vs Loma fight, the odds hasn't move a bit, Loma is still a 3:1 underdog.

As expected, Loma is still the big underdog here. Everyone is likely rooting for Haney to get an easy win because he is the younger and stronger fighter, so there should be no problem winning. However, I love surprises, so I want Loma to shock Haney and prove to him that he hasn't fought a technically skilled fighter as good as him.

Is 'shock' really the appropriate term? LOL. I think that word is used when one is not expected to win, and although Loma is quite the underdog here, he is capable of winning. Perhaps he will surprise the doubters, but the believers won't be shocked because they trust Loma to bring his A-game in the biggest fight of his career this year.

Perhaps it could be the right term, I mean beating a 3:1 underdog and then winning it, should be shocking right? the thing is that Loma is a live underdog that's why we thought that the odd is not that fair. Similar to Ryan Garcia who is also the same underdog odds with Tank, if he wins the fight will it be shocking? Of course yes, as bettors and handicappers thinks that he has a small chance of winning.

So we will see how this game will play out, will it be the underdog Loma here and then he become the undisputed or Haney continue on his winning streak and cementing his legacy.

Can't blame them if they listed Loma as slight 3:1 underdog because his past form wasn't seen in his recent fight against Jamaine Ortiz, I mean he was still flexible and hard to predict even after his lost against Teo where he fought two boxers, Nakatani and Commey, respectively but that was before his inactivity because of the Russian-Ukraine war where he had to sacrifice his career to help the troops defend Ukraine.

I sure do hope that we will still see the old Loma, so that he can give Haney a good fight and might dethrone him from being the undisputed champion in this division. But if not, I'm confident to say that it will be like a walk in the park Devin Haney.
Boxers are quite complimentary of themselves, but I can't deny that in this case they are underestimating Loma a lot, I don't have to Deny that Haney is one of the best I've Seen in action, but I also can't deny that Loma has a classic style , like from the old school and it is the same one that everyone wants to have in a fight, for me this is Something that will always be the best,but it is good that I know this type of fight, the good thing is that the bets will Always have an impact what we think about what we get right, that's why this is still relevant.

Because Haney thought that he will have all the advantage, actually the bookies believed that, that's why he is the favorite in this fight. One thing though is that Haney doesn't have power behind his punches and Loma knows this and he should be walking him and try to be the aggressor in the early rounds to test what Haney is made of.

If not then since we said that they have boxing IQ, maybe they will have another plan to counter the other.

So yeah, this is a great fight to watch specially for fans on how to play defense as it will be the key here in this fight.

They are both masters on their respective specialties, Loma got the needed defense and as well as the offense which make him difficult to defeat but Haney here despite having that lack of power, he is still the undisputed champion at 135 which means he is not that easy to defeat even though his power is not as strong as Loma's.

The fact that these two are fighting is a test of which of them is more dominant in the division and for the people as well to know who's who because we've been asking this question for a quite a long time now. We are just fortunate enough, we as the avid fans, that we're given this kind of entertainment.
Unquestionably things are like that, I could not give a verdict right now, but things with this type of boxers are very unexpected, I cannot deny that the things that these boxers can do are very great, but personally what is shown the most It is that Haney is more hierarchical According to some forums , but I would prefer to go for Loma who is more Hungry to win and is a Person who has a lot to give and prove , that is why I think Loma would have been my ideal bet, but even though Haney won , I really liked the controversy that Loma said , he really did not respect that they had beaten him , eventually he was very irreverent , this is something that leaves one between seeing that Haney sees it easy , that because of a merely Technical fight he Beat him , this Leaves open doors to a next fight.

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May 28, 2023, 05:55:33 AM
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Anyone knows who is going to be Haney next opponent? Wonder how he would look when he would defence his belts. I wonder if Loma and Haney would ever meet again. Fans would love to see their second fight, it would answer all the questions, but I think both, Loma and Haney are not looking forward for another fight.

As for a rematch between Loma and Haney, there's a slight chance that it will happen as aside from there's no rematch clause in their contract, Haney's side is already looking forward to see the next chapter and a chapter that doesn't have Loma on it. We may have our own speculations in Haney's next foe, but as per rumors, it's considered that it will be between Shakur Stevenson or Gervonta Davis.

After being robbed so dirty, I think Loma does not want that rematch. If they would have a rematch, Haney would be more prepared, he now knows Lomas boxing (I though Haney looked a bit lost in that fight, specially after Loma dominated in late rounds (round 11 i.e.). If Haney wins, he would taunt everyone for being boxing pound for pound king. Haney does not want that rematch either imho. Because his victory wasnt a dominant. He understands (I hope), that judges made him win, not he won that fight.

I think it was confirmed that Lomachenco's camp had file an appeal about the judges decision on the fight and Devin Haney somehow become outrage bad mouthing Lomachenco saying he is a f****** loser.



Along with the appeal, Lomachenco's camp also file another appeal to remove Shakur Stevenson as Haney's mandatory  WBC challenger.  It was disclosed in this yt video: Shocking: Lomachenko Files Petition To Remove Shakur Stevenson As Devin Haney Mandatory WBC  .

I don't know if the decision of the fight can be overturned because there had been lots of cases like that but it is very rare to get the decision overturned.

No, I don't think that the decision can be overturn here, the best thing that Loma can do is to have a rematch, but I don't think they have that in their contracts. Besides, Haney 3 fight deal with Top Rank is done, and he might go over to Eddie Hearn again, so it is not guarantee that he will have a title shot again. And if Haney decided to go up in weight and fight for the belt at 140 lbs and vacated all the belts, then maybe we can see Stevenson vs Loma for at least one of those belts. Or maybe Davis too will get a chance to have the regular belts in his waist.

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May 28, 2023, 02:34:51 PM
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So if we are to based on Haney's tweets, he did not actually re-sign with Top Rank. And with this version of old Bob Arum not careful with his words once again, an affected Haney might really return to Eddie Hearn once again. DAZN has the deeper pockets over ESPN should it won't be surprising if Haney joins Matchroom again.

Haney's camp are being open about their struggle to make the weight. Loma was part of his contract with Top Rank so Haney will definitely move up in weight with or without Top Rank. Top Rank already offered Haney earlier the winner of WBO champion Josh Taylor and Teofimo Lopez while Matchroom offered WBC champion Regis Prograis. The only reason I can see Haney remaining in the division is a fight with Tank Davis which I believe is too difficult to make. PBC only picks weaker opponents for its bigger star.

The WBC retained Loma as its #1. Although what happened in the fight will only make Loma's ranking higher if he is not #1 since he actually won the fight, only that he lost to the judges' scorecards. If Haney moves up in weight then the WBA regular holder Tank Davis will automatically become the WBA Super champion. Loma is most likely #1 by the WBC, IBF, and WBO so he can choose any of the belts. Top Rank can make a double-header for Loma and Shakur before they unify their belts. But it will be very hard for the 4 belts to get unified again. Tank Davis will only fight Loma maybe 2 years from now when he depreciates big time but he will never fight a prime Shakur Stevenson.   

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May 28, 2023, 05:27:48 PM
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So if we are to based on Haney's tweets, he did not actually re-sign with Top Rank. And with this version of old Bob Arum not careful with his words once again, an affected Haney might really return to Eddie Hearn once again. DAZN has the deeper pockets over ESPN should it won't be surprising if Haney joins Matchroom again.

Haney's camp are being open about their struggle to make the weight. Loma was part of his contract with Top Rank so Haney will definitely move up in weight with or without Top Rank. Top Rank already offered Haney earlier the winner of WBO champion Josh Taylor and Teofimo Lopez while Matchroom offered WBC champion Regis Prograis. The only reason I can see Haney remaining in the division is a fight with Tank Davis which I believe is too difficult to make. PBC only picks weaker opponents for its bigger star.

The WBC retained Loma as its #1. Although what happened in the fight will only make Loma's ranking higher if he is not #1 since he actually won the fight, only that he lost to the judges' scorecards. If Haney moves up in weight then the WBA regular holder Tank Davis will automatically become the WBA Super champion. Loma is most likely #1 by the WBC, IBF, and WBO so he can choose any of the belts. Top Rank can make a double-header for Loma and Shakur before they unify their belts. But it will be very hard for the 4 belts to get unified again. Tank Davis will only fight Loma maybe 2 years from now when he depreciates big time but he will never fight a prime Shakur Stevenson.   

This scenario is actually not that far from happening and I'd say that this is the nearest scenario that could happen. Devin Haney and his camp sheltering under Eddie Hearn's umbrella is very possible because if he did not re-sign under Bob Arum then that is already a sign that he's no longer going back under Tank Rank and will see his future fight under DAZN Matchroom.

And for Haney's future fights, Tank Davis seems almost impossible to do for now given that he (Haney) doesn't have enough time left in his present weight class. So I think his last foe will be Shakur Stevenson, which is the nearest, but if that will not happen as well, then we might see Haney fighting in the next weight class and possibly facing the WBC champion, Regis Prograis.

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May 28, 2023, 06:35:12 PM
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And for Haney's future fights, Tank Davis seems almost impossible to do for now given that he (Haney) doesn't have enough time left in his present weight class. So I think his last foe will be Shakur Stevenson, which is the nearest, but if that will not happen as well, then we might see Haney fighting in the next weight class and possibly facing the WBC champion, Regis Prograis.

But it looks like Haney is looking to have a fight against Tank Davis.  He is aiming for it next year and Haney stated that if he do not get the fight then he might consider moving up to 140 lbs.  Aside from that, a boxer can move up or down of weight division
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Haney realizes a fight versus Davis would do big business, yet he also acknowledged that he has just about outgrown the lightweight division. His next fight could be contested at the junior welterweight limit of 140 pounds, which would make Haney less valuable as an opponent for Davis or Shakur Stevenson (20-0, 10 KOs).

“You know, if I can’t get those fights next or it doesn’t make sense for it to be next, I’ll probably go to 140, test it out, see how I feel at the weight, at 140,” Haney said. “And then, when the time is right, then I’ll defend my belts at 135. We’ll just see, though. I’ve gotta go back and talk with the team and see what makes the most sense. That’s really all it boils down to.”

Haney knows that fighting Tank Davis will give him a fat purse, so it is possible that his manager will try to make a deal with Tank Davis.
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And for Haney's future fights, Tank Davis seems almost impossible to do for now given that he (Haney) doesn't have enough time left in his present weight class. So I think his last foe will be Shakur Stevenson, which is the nearest, but if that will not happen as well, then we might see Haney fighting in the next weight class and possibly facing the WBC champion, Regis Prograis.

But it looks like Haney is looking to have a fight against Tank Davis.  He is aiming for it next year and Haney stated that if he do not get the fight then he might consider moving up to 140 lbs.  Aside from that, a boxer can move up or down of weight division
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“You know, if I can’t get those fights next or it doesn’t make sense for it to be next, I’ll probably go to 140, test it out, see how I feel at the weight, at 140,” Haney said. “And then, when the time is right, then I’ll defend my belts at 135. We’ll just see, though. I’ve gotta go back and talk with the team and see what makes the most sense. That’s really all it boils down to.”

Haney knows that fighting Tank Davis will give him a fat purse, so it is possible that his manager will try to make a deal with Tank Davis.

It will be a much safer route for Devin Haney to just try out the next weight class without vacating his belts and see if he can handle some of the big boys in that division, and if it will turn out that it's too much for him, he can always go back in lightweight division where he already unified all the belts and where he dominated the division, although it's quite an issue for now because of what happened recently versus Loma.
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And for Haney's future fights, Tank Davis seems almost impossible to do for now given that he (Haney) doesn't have enough time left in his present weight class. So I think his last foe will be Shakur Stevenson, which is the nearest, but if that will not happen as well, then we might see Haney fighting in the next weight class and possibly facing the WBC champion, Regis Prograis.
Fighting Shakur is very attractive its going to be a mega fight, what I like about Haney is he is looking always for mega fights and to establish his legacy his recent fight did not look good in the eyes of the boxing community the only way he can erase the stigma is fighting a high-level fighter like Shakur and dominate him, of course, he can do that Loma is a far better fighter than Shakur.

But if it's possible on his terms he should do a rematch with Loma, this fight did not confirm his status as a pound-for-pound fighter people are questioning if he really got what it takes.

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May 29, 2023, 06:45:44 AM
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And for Haney's future fights, Tank Davis seems almost impossible to do for now given that he (Haney) doesn't have enough time left in his present weight class. So I think his last foe will be Shakur Stevenson, which is the nearest, but if that will not happen as well, then we might see Haney fighting in the next weight class and possibly facing the WBC champion, Regis Prograis.
Fighting Shakur is very attractive its going to be a mega fight, what I like about Haney is he is looking always for mega fights and to establish his legacy his recent fight did not look good in the eyes of the boxing community the only way he can erase the stigma is fighting a high-level fighter like Shakur and dominate him, of course, he can do that Loma is a far better fighter than Shakur.

But if it's possible on his terms he should do a rematch with Loma, this fight did not confirm his status as a pound-for-pound fighter people are questioning if he really got what it takes.

It would be good if Haney moves on and fights an undefeated boxer. Of course, Shakur is a good target, but it's hard to say if Loma is better than Shakur since they haven't fought yet. Haney has faced a lot of criticism, but he is responding by fighting champions. As he continues to challenge and defeat champions, people will start to have less doubt and consider him as one of the greatest boxers of his generation. Hopefully, this fight will push through and provide an opportunity for Haney to further prove himself.

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And for Haney's future fights, Tank Davis seems almost impossible to do for now given that he (Haney) doesn't have enough time left in his present weight class. So I think his last foe will be Shakur Stevenson, which is the nearest, but if that will not happen as well, then we might see Haney fighting in the next weight class and possibly facing the WBC champion, Regis Prograis.
Fighting Shakur is very attractive its going to be a mega fight, what I like about Haney is he is looking always for mega fights and to establish his legacy his recent fight did not look good in the eyes of the boxing community the only way he can erase the stigma is fighting a high-level fighter like Shakur and dominate him, of course, he can do that Loma is a far better fighter than Shakur.

I think this is very possible, so for me, this fight first before he moves up in weight, doable in a sense that they are both under the promotional banner of Top Rank, so easy to make. Besides, we've seen Shakur in the crowd and even criticized Haney for the win. So this might be a good story line for the two as they established their rivalry already.

But if it's possible on his terms he should do a rematch with Loma, this fight did not confirm his status as a pound-for-pound fighter people are questioning if he really got what it takes.

Loma should take a rest first, I know it's a heartbreaking lost for him, but it's better if he will just clear his mind first before fighting again. And maybe the best options for his is to let Stevenson vs Haney happen and then fight the winner.
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But if it's possible on his terms he should do a rematch with Loma, this fight did not confirm his status as a pound-for-pound fighter people are questioning if he really got what it takes.

Loma should take a rest first, I know it's a heartbreaking lost for him, but it's better if he will just clear his mind first before fighting again. And maybe the best options for his is to let Stevenson vs Haney happen and then fight the winner.

That's why the pound-for-pound list remains at its status quo  Grin, even Haney knew that he was defeated on that fight (no offense to Haney fans here, just my view).

If the rematch would take more than a year to happen then it would be to Loma's disadvantage as he will be a year or two older which would not be practical because if Loma will lose people will say that it's because of Loma's age not of Haney's skill defeating him.

For me, a rematch should happen right away to settle the real score.

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But if it's possible on his terms he should do a rematch with Loma, this fight did not confirm his status as a pound-for-pound fighter people are questioning if he really got what it takes.

Loma should take a rest first, I know it's a heartbreaking lost for him, but it's better if he will just clear his mind first before fighting again. And maybe the best options for his is to let Stevenson vs Haney happen and then fight the winner.

That's why the pound-for-pound list remains at its status quo  Grin, even Haney knew that he was defeated on that fight (no offense to Haney fans here, just my view).

If the rematch would take more than a year to happen then it would be to Loma's disadvantage as he will be a year or two older which would not be practical because if Loma will lose people will say that it's because of Loma's age not of Haney's skill defeating him.

For me, a rematch should happen right away to settle the real score.

I agree, if there will be a rematch between Loma and Haney then they should make it happen before this year ends because Haney is already on the verge of leaving the weight class plus Lomachenko will be in the disadvantageous side if the rematch will drag on. But in my view, I think asking for a rematch is already too much because I know it will not happen as for Haney's perspective, he's already done with Loma and just like how Mayweather thinks, I bet Haney is also thinking the same way where he should be always on the safe side.

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I don't think that Haney will re-sign with Bob Arum, he should give thanks to Bob though for giving him the opportunities, that 3 fight contract gave Haney all the belts, 2x against Kambosos (who fortunately, remain loyal to Bob Arum and re-sign), and then his controversial win, or shall we say lost to Loma. And with that, he can go back to Match Room and perhaps Eddie Hearn can give him Prograis at 140 lbs, could be a good prospect for another belt for Haney. I don't think that he will give Loma his due rematch, he could give a lot of excuses for avoiding him. Shakur could chase him, but if Haney is on another promotion already, it might be difficult to make without Shakur sacrificing lots of money and Haney will call the shots as obviously he will be the A-side. Loma on the other hand will be the number 1 rank boxer in the 4 bodies, he will be given that special privilege after what happen to the Haney fight. So most likely he will have another crack for the belt but it won't be as unified champion anymore, which is his dream.

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May 30, 2023, 03:13:57 AM
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They are both masters on their respective specialties, Loma got the needed defense and as well as the offense which make him difficult to defeat but Haney here despite having that lack of power, he is still the undisputed champion at 135 which means he is not that easy to defeat even though his power is not as strong as Loma's.

The fact that these two are fighting is a test of which of them is more dominant in the division and for the people as well to know who's who because we've been asking this question for a quite a long time now. We are just fortunate enough, we as the avid fans, that we're given this kind of entertainment.
This is how it is when it comes to champions , they put pressure on themselves not to lose and that everything must be in the name of always winning , it is something that helps them win , here the one who can win a lot is Loma , for me Haney has a lot to think about, more because of the words that Loma gave him , in addition to the fact that he has a very high reputation, of course , in the fight the one who showed no matter how much it was was Haney, therefore he is the one with the best training , it is something like you Already know who he is the winner based on his training, that's the secret in boxing , there are no last minute strategies but the amount of training you had , the stronger you are, the more chances of winning , but in the way Loma said it that gives a victory with a bitter Taste.

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May 30, 2023, 08:46:41 AM
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Wow... Never expected Haney to be such a rotten guy. This tweet only proves that Loma was better that evening. Such people, who always scream like that, that they are best, and dont want to rematch or ever fight again show how scared they are lose their belt. Same was with Lopez. He was also same douchbag when he won and refuses to fight again and said he is the greatest, and lost the belt in next fight.

A real champ is ready to fight anyone. If Haney thinks that he really won that fight, then he can beat Loma one more time, and one more, and many more times. But Haney seems to be only a champ in tweeting Cheesy

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