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May 12, 2025, 03:04:47 AM
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What you say is not wrong and the logic is not Wrong , Foreign players are the Scorers , and I think that is very accurate, but how can it help the Arab Team to be better ? Easy, their players Chant with these players, they somehow learn to play with those Styles of play and despite the fact that they are not scorers or so outstanding, in their leagues they learn things from them, they know who they Face and look for ways not to succumb to them, there is already growth there and the less they play in a World Cup they will know much more how to play against them, that is the bet that the Arabs make , and by the way, that strategy is very intelligent.

Foreign players in Saudi Pro League teams recently have expensive salary payment receiving from their previous club, leaving top European teams and play there I think most of them must paid higher than Saudi Arabia players because their arrival make SPL become most popular exactly since Cristiano Ronaldo signed by Al Nassr.
Actually expensive salary payment receiving depend on skill have each players, not matter as foreign player or not but if have skill and play well get chance for Saudi Arabia players have the same salary with foreign player. Just reminder, the foreign players recently make Saudi Pro League more popular and Saudi Arabia success become host of the World Cup 2034 after top European players joining any Saudi Pro League teams.

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May 12, 2025, 08:59:31 AM
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It must be admitted that football was much more advanced in Europe, and that is also what makes clubs from the European League much more famous until now. However, in terms of financial strength, clubs from the Saudi Pro League are currently probably stronger than European clubs. However, I think we don't have to compare these leagues, because each of them has a different history even though the goal is the same, we just need to enjoy it.
Lol, what?
There are teams from the USA with more money than the Saudi League, the Cl winner is getting more than the entire budget of Al Hilal for example.
Not to mention, you have the champion team playing at home and you only manage to get 13000 people in the stadium?
There are teams in the second division in the European league packing more spectators.

All this and oil at $50 and the Saudi League might start competing with Vanatu.
Comparison of leagues and clubs like this has never been justified because all well known about regional situations and leagues positions as well but still argument needed to be carried on I am feeling Saudi League is improving in quality but still it's long way to go for them if they are going to challenge European clubs even for me it's never been possible.

But, here we have few other things like Saudi League is having vision of change culture and bring things on good level in sports which is doing good, and they are on right path they could be able to bring good strength with competitiveness but still it's not possible for them to challenge European clubs in finances. Soccer culture is Europe is one of the best in world their competitions and their clubs are had enough structure and system to stay at the top in other regions it's never been easy to have things like these.

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May 12, 2025, 09:52:01 AM
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because of Ronaldo Saudi League is having good increase in fan base which is good success even still they are having no results which they needed, but their moves are giving them good popularity and chance of having more influential players which are important for them and their vision to change this country into best sporting country of world with their billions of dollars.

They are going to have a big crisis when Ronaldo eventually retires and TV viewing figures drop.
Well here's the thing and it's a fact that can't seem to be disputed. It is not surprising that Al-nassr has also given Cristiano Ronaldo a contract extension. because the SPL is not ready to lose Cristiano Ronaldo. Because until now, because of Cristiano Ronaldo's big name, many star soccer players from Europe have joined clubs in the SPL. But for now our attention is also divided not only on Cristiano Ronaldo but also on the names of other famous players who are also owned by many other clubs, namely the players owned by Al-hilal, Al-ittihad, Al-Ahli, Al-Qadisiyah, Al-ettifaq and Al Taawon. So when Cristiano Ronaldo leaves, the SPL will still get attention because of the other star players. But yeah, it won't be as big as when Cristiano Ronaldo was around. And a decline in the number of TV viewers will clearly occur.

But perhaps another aim of bringing in European star players is to advance Saudi Arabian football itself and motivate native Saudi players to become even better by competing with world star players. So, it is hoped that the Saudi Arabian National Team will also experience an increase in quality because the players will become accustomed to competing at clubs with European star players.

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May 12, 2025, 11:10:21 AM
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Comparison of leagues and clubs like this has never been justified because all well known about regional situations and leagues positions as well but still argument needed to be carried on I am feeling Saudi League is improving in quality but still it's long way to go for them if they are going to challenge European clubs even for me it's never been possible.

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Comparing the two leagues is just unfair, because no matter how you look at it, the European league is more developed and better than the Saudi league. Remember that the European league has been developing for a longer time - it just doesn't make sense to compare the newly developing Saudi league with the established league. However, as you said, the Saudi league is developing and they have spent a lot of money so that it can continue to grow to have more fans globally, and their efforts to improve the image of their league are something we should appreciate.. at least there is a league that is really developing from the Asian continent.

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May 12, 2025, 11:20:32 AM
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Comparison of leagues and clubs like this has never been justified because all well known about regional situations and leagues positions as well but still argument needed to be carried on I am feeling Saudi League is improving in quality but still it's long way to go for them if they are going to challenge European clubs even for me it's never been possible.

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Comparing the two leagues is just unfair, because no matter how you look at it, the European league is more developed and better than the Saudi league. Remember that the European league has been developing for a longer time - it just doesn't make sense to compare the newly developing Saudi league with the established league. However, as you said, the Saudi league is developing and they have spent a lot of money so that it can continue to grow to have more fans globally, and their efforts to improve the image of their league are something we should appreciate.. at least there is a league that is really developing from the Asian continent.

Yes, SPL is the best league in Asia, but when compared to European leagues, they are still far behind, both in terms of the number of fans and the number of broadcasts. In terms of infrastructure, maybe yes, the stadiums in Saudi Arabia are almost all of international standard, but it is very unfortunate that they do not have a large enough fan base. Their fans are only limited to Asia, and even then not as a whole, and this is very different from European leagues which not only have a fan base in Europe, but also all over the world. And that is why the European league is still the best until now.

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May 12, 2025, 11:45:02 AM
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But perhaps another aim of bringing in European star players is to advance Saudi Arabian football itself and motivate native Saudi players to become even better by competing with world star players. So, it is hoped that the Saudi Arabian National Team will also experience an increase in quality because the players will become accustomed to competing at clubs with European star players.
You are right, that is the ultimate goal of Saudi Arabia investment in football, by recruiting former top European players, they hope to make the Saudi Pro League more competitive. And this step will also bring more financial benefits, the prestige of the Saudi Pro League will increase. Saudi seriousness in football can also be seen from their efforts to host the 2034 World Cup, I think with the financial strength they have Saudi will succeed in carrying out all their plans.

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You are right, that is the ultimate goal of Saudi Arabia investment in football, by recruiting former top European players, they hope to make the Saudi Pro League more competitive. And this step will also bring more financial benefits, the prestige of the Saudi Pro League will increase. Saudi seriousness in football can also be seen from their efforts to host the 2034 World Cup, I think with the financial strength they have Saudi will succeed in carrying out all their plans.
For the few years the Saudi government have used money to attract some good player from Europe, I doubt if it has yielded the needed results. Right, these world class players have attracted more attention to the Gulf league. There has also been an improvement in the quality of the games. However, they have failed to build local players that can be exported to other countries. The SPL has not produced any local player that is highly sought after in Europe.

Young players are not also attracted to the league because of some factors. The wages of average players are still low; only foreign world-class players get the big pay.

But they have achieved the aim of winning the bid for the world, which is a big achievement.

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May 12, 2025, 12:54:20 PM
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It must be admitted that football was much more advanced in Europe, and that is also what makes clubs from the European League much more famous until now. However, in terms of financial strength, clubs from the Saudi Pro League are currently probably stronger than European clubs. However, I think we don't have to compare these leagues, because each of them has a different history even though the goal is the same, we just need to enjoy it.
Lol, what?
There are teams from the USA with more money than the Saudi League, the Cl winner is getting more than the entire budget of Al Hilal for example.
Not to mention, you have the champion team playing at home and you only manage to get 13000 people in the stadium?
There are teams in the second division in the European league packing more spectators.

All this and oil at $50 and the Saudi League might start competing with Vanatu.
Comparison of leagues and clubs like this has never been justified because all well known about regional situations and leagues positions as well but still argument needed to be carried on I am feeling Saudi League is improving in quality but still it's long way to go for them if they are going to challenge European clubs even for me it's never been possible.

But, here we have few other things like Saudi League is having vision of change culture and bring things on good level in sports which is doing good, and they are on right path they could be able to bring good strength with competitiveness but still it's not possible for them to challenge European clubs in finances. Soccer culture is Europe is one of the best in world their competitions and their clubs are had enough structure and system to stay at the top in other regions it's never been easy to have things like these.

They will never be able to compete with European clubs, football in South America or other parts of the world is much less developed, as a sport people play it from a young age, while in Arab countries, it is only seen as entertainment, nothing more, they will never be competitive at European or South American level, you can't buy everything in life!
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Carlo Ancelotti is to become brazil's new national team coach!
various sports portals and news sites have reported that the italian has signed with 'the seleção'. according to the reports, C. Ancelotti will officially take over as brazil's national team coach on may 26.
his first match will be the world cup qualifier against ecuador on june 6.

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It must be admitted that football was much more advanced in Europe, and that is also what makes clubs from the European League much more famous until now. However, in terms of financial strength, clubs from the Saudi Pro League are currently probably stronger than European clubs. However, I think we don't have to compare these leagues, because each of them has a different history even though the goal is the same, we just need to enjoy it.
Financially, Saudi Arabia clubs are not richer than European clubs. The difference is that few of the Saudi-based clubs enjoy massive financial backing from the government. 75% ownership of clubs like Al-Ahli, Al-Ittihad, Al-Hilal, and Al-Nassr are under the ownership of the government backed Public Investment Fund. If the government relinquishes its stake in these clubs, it might go bankrupt. However, most European clubs are owned by private owners, which makes them free from the influence of the government.
It is not as if some of the European clubs can't afford to pay the amount Saudi Arabia spends on players. One of the reasons why Saudi Arabian clubs pay so much money to their players is publicity. Saudi Arabian football is not well known compared to the European league clubs. I think the main reason for this significant spending on players is to attract players to these clubs, along with their fans, to make the clubs more popular. Because of the big players they have been able to sign, their league has become more recognized.

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May 12, 2025, 02:37:55 PM
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because of Ronaldo Saudi League is having good increase in fan base which is good success even still they are having no results which they needed, but their moves are giving them good popularity and chance of having more influential players which are important for them and their vision to change this country into best sporting country of world with their billions of dollars.

They are going to have a big crisis when Ronaldo eventually retires and TV viewing figures drop.
Same situation happened with the China Super league years back when they were pumping money into signing top European stars players that were closed to retirement age just to create attention from the public to their league thinking they can measure with the competition with European top leagues in terms of views. But after those players got retired with some others leaving after the expiration of their first contract, the Super league is back to what I could referred to as reset factory mode. This could be the fate of Saudi league if they don't tread carefully.

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What you say is not wrong and the logic is not Wrong , Foreign players are the Scorers , and I think that is very accurate, but how can it help the Arab Team to be better ? Easy, their players Chant with these players, they somehow learn to play with those Styles of play and despite the fact that they are not scorers or so outstanding, in their leagues they learn things from them, they know who they Face and look for ways not to succumb to them, there is already growth there and the less they play in a World Cup they will know much more how to play against them, that is the bet that the Arabs make , and by the way, that strategy is very intelligent.
I also think the purpose of Saudi Arabia investing heavily by bringing legendary players to their league is to create a football culture like in Europe in the Saudi League. I do not deny that the arrival of foreign players like Ronaldo or Benzema will make local players become bench players and that will affect their performance when playing for Saudi Arabia. But on the other hand, with players like Ronaldo, local players can learn a lot from Ronaldo, such as kicking skills or how to finish. And with the many star players in the Saudi League, local players will have a new standard so they can get playing time at the club. I think the problem of local players becoming bench players can be solved by making regulations regarding local players who must have playing minutes and that can be done in the future.

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May 12, 2025, 03:23:00 PM
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The best scorers are all foreigners and are not from Asia



So how will Saudi Arabia have a strong national team? when you look at the salaries of all Al Nassr players

https://www.aiscore.com/salary/team-al-nassr-fc-ezk96ino4ocwkn5

All foreign players earn more money than Saudi players, I ask you:

Is this really a good thing?

What you say is not wrong and the logic is not Wrong , Foreign players are the Scorers , and I think that is very accurate, but how can it help the Arab Team to be better ? Easy, their players Chant with these players, they somehow learn to play with those Styles of play and despite the fact that they are not scorers or so outstanding, in their leagues they learn things from them, they know who they Face and look for ways not to succumb to them, there is already growth there and the less they play in a World Cup they will know much more how to play against them, that is the bet that the Arabs make , and by the way, that strategy is very intelligent.

I have to agree with the both of you guys that goals scoring record have all been achieved by none European origin players, but then we should know that football record is not based on the origins of the players but the clubs that they represent, so in most cases it not about the goals or players that score them, but it good to acknowledge the players efforts and most African players signed to foreign clubs are really doing well in that regard one among such players with outstanding goals records is Victor Osimhen.

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What you say is not wrong and the logic is not Wrong , Foreign players are the Scorers , and I think that is very accurate, but how can it help the Arab Team to be better ? Easy, their players Chant with these players, they somehow learn to play with those Styles of play and despite the fact that they are not scorers or so outstanding, in their leagues they learn things from them, they know who they Face and look for ways not to succumb to them, there is already growth there and the less they play in a World Cup they will know much more how to play against them, that is the bet that the Arabs make , and by the way, that strategy is very intelligent.
I have to agree with the both of you guys that goals scoring record have all been achieved by none European origin players, but then we should know that football record is not based on the origins of the players but the clubs that they represent, so in most cases it not about the goals or players that score them, but it good to acknowledge the players efforts and most African players signed to foreign clubs are really doing well in that regard one among such players with outstanding goals records is Victor Osimhen.

That's the good thing in football. A club or team can hire foreign players in their team as long as they have budget for them. This is why like it or not, if a team has good amount of money in their vault, they can surely get high quality of football players or should I say, the top performers in this sports.
Talking about Osimhen, as he's considered to be one of the top strikers across the globe, his worth just increased. And coming from Nigeria, we all know that the worth he is now is like a dream come true for him. But if he stayed in his local club, I don't think he will get the same amount of wage that he has now in Galatasaray.

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But perhaps another aim of bringing in European star players is to advance Saudi Arabian football itself and motivate native Saudi players to become even better by competing with world star players. So, it is hoped that the Saudi Arabian National Team will also experience an increase in quality because the players will become accustomed to competing at clubs with European star players.
You are right, that is the ultimate goal of Saudi Arabia investment in football, by recruiting former top European players, they hope to make the Saudi Pro League more competitive. And this step will also bring more financial benefits, the prestige of the Saudi Pro League will increase. Saudi seriousness in football can also be seen from their efforts to host the 2034 World Cup, I think with the financial strength they have Saudi will succeed in carrying out all their plans.
I'm pretty sure that after the World Cup Saudi Arabia won't care anymore about football, just look what happened with Qatar after the World Cup: before the World Cup they were signing a lot of players to bring more attention to the league, after the World Cup almost nobody goes to Qatar. And let's not forget the show they put on with the fake supporters. I still remember that during the first match, Qatar-Ecuador, the majority of people left way before the end of the game. Saudi Arabia is the same, they are playing the same game.

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But perhaps another aim of bringing in European star players is to advance Saudi Arabian football itself and motivate native Saudi players to become even better by competing with world star players. So, it is hoped that the Saudi Arabian National Team will also experience an increase in quality because the players will become accustomed to competing at clubs with European star players.
You are right, that is the ultimate goal of Saudi Arabia investment in football, by recruiting former top European players, they hope to make the Saudi Pro League more competitive. And this step will also bring more financial benefits, the prestige of the Saudi Pro League will increase. Saudi seriousness in football can also be seen from their efforts to host the 2034 World Cup, I think with the financial strength they have Saudi will succeed in carrying out all their plans.

No doubt with money you can attract international players and make a successful league and this is what we have witnessed with the Saudi Professional League, where the players are paid high and renowned players are the part of that league. Also the Saudi football team can hire best foreign coaches etc but they cannot buy the talent. That is the reason we don't see the Saudi Arab team performing well against the European and American teams in tournaments like the World Cups. Yes, with time things may change, but as of now, even in Asia, Japan and Korea are better teams than the Saudis.

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Carlo Ancelotti is to become brazil's new national team coach!
various sports portals and news sites have reported that the italian has signed with 'the seleção'. according to the reports, C. Ancelotti will officially take over as brazil's national team coach on may 26.
his first match will be the world cup qualifier against ecuador on june 6.
We hear a lot of news about Carlo Ancelotti joining Brazil but we have not seen any news of its truth yet. Some media outlets are claiming that Carlo Ancelotti will not be the next manager of Brazil, while some action-oriented media outlets are claiming that Carlo Ancelotti is going to take charge of Brazil very soon. Since Real Madrid is already thinking about hiring their new manager and they are very positive about signing a manager, it is expected that Carlo Ancelotti will not be seen as the manager of Real Madrid from the next season.

Considering Carlo Ancelotti from that perspective, Brazil fans are going to get some good news about Carlo Ancelotti. Brazil has been waiting for Carlo Ancelotti for a long time, so if he takes charge of Brazil after this season, it will be great news as well as a positive thing for Real Madrid.

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May 12, 2025, 11:44:07 PM
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The best scorers are all foreigners and are not from Asia



So how will Saudi Arabia have a strong national team? when you look at the salaries of all Al Nassr players

https://www.aiscore.com/salary/team-al-nassr-fc-ezk96ino4ocwkn5

All foreign players earn more money than Saudi players, I ask you:

Is this really a good thing?

What you say is not wrong and the logic is not Wrong , Foreign players are the Scorers , and I think that is very accurate, but how can it help the Arab Team to be better ? Easy, their players Chant with these players, they somehow learn to play with those Styles of play and despite the fact that they are not scorers or so outstanding, in their leagues they learn things from them, they know who they Face and look for ways not to succumb to them, there is already growth there and the less they play in a World Cup they will know much more how to play against them, that is the bet that the Arabs make , and by the way, that strategy is very intelligent.


But I think that is only true to a limited degree. No doubt that players can improve if they are training and playing with top players from Europe, but most of the time those European top players go there at the end of their careers and it is a huge difference if a player has gone through the best football education during their entire career compared to players who spend their career in Saudi Arabia and now get to play a few seasons with former world stars.

Ronaldo is perhaps not the best example because he is an exception, but most of these overpaid top players who go to play in the SPL have spent their whole life with great coaches and staff from very early on. That is a different ball game in my opinion.

The SPL will still take advantage of it and the Saudi national team maybe too, but I think not as much as some people think they would. They are not going to win the World Cup or reach the final because they began to buy semi-retired European football players a few years ago.

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May 13, 2025, 08:58:21 AM
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They will never be able to compete with European clubs, football in South America or other parts of the world is much less developed, as a sport people play it from a young age, while in Arab countries, it is only seen as entertainment, nothing more, they will never be competitive at European or South American level, you can't buy everything in life!

Just stick to one, is football in South America less developed or is it better developed, make up your mind, two lines and you already made a mess of everything!
And yes, you can buy everything with enough money, just throw millions in a sport continuously and you will have more people involved and more kids wanting to become a football player, cut all funding for European clubs and you will see a drop in quality like never before in just a generation.

We hear a lot of news about Carlo Ancelotti joining Brazil but we have not seen any news of its truth yet.

You have an official announcement from the Brazilian Football Confederation, what more do you want?
https://www.cbf.com.br/selecao-brasileira/noticias/selecao-masculina/a/carlo-ancelotti-e-o-novo-tecnico-da-selecao-brasileira









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May 13, 2025, 09:29:56 AM
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They will never be able to compete with European clubs, football in South America or other parts of the world is much less developed, as a sport people play it from a young age, while in Arab countries, it is only seen as entertainment, nothing more, they will never be competitive at European or South American level, you can't buy everything in life!

South America has a history and faith in football that surpasses any place in the world
children are born with football in their blood and with the dream of football to redeem themselves from the social condition in which they find themselves
It is very strong and always will be in those parts of the world

they just need to figure out how to make the talents they have play together

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