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June 10, 2025, 03:49:18 PM
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Unfortunately, Indonesia's hopes of winning have now disappeared. The current score also shows the difference in the quality of these two national teams which is very contrasting. Japan was able to break into Indonesia's goal without any problems. They have now managed to score 5 goals and maybe there will be several more goals scored. It seems like STY and Patrick have not been able to make Indonesia match Japan's performance. Maybe it's because the difference in player quality is quite clear that this can happen.

Why is the Indonesian national team's defense weaker than usual? Even though everyone was certainly not surprised by the defeat, in this meeting the number of goals was the highest than usual. In the previous meeting, Indonesia lost with a score of 0-4. And in today's match Indonesia lost with a score of 6-0. Well that's not a result to be proud of. But it was a disappointing result. When facing Australia we also saw the number of goals which was almost close, namely 5-1 and yes at that time it was still quite good because Indonesia was at least able to reply with 1 goal. But in this match I was really disappointed because Indonesia was not even able to mount a single attack throughout the match. And that's a pretty embarrassing thing too. A change of coach doesn't seem to make things better. In fact I think it gets a little worse.

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June 10, 2025, 03:51:14 PM
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In the last World Cup, the Latin American team Argentina was the champion, but in the next World Cup, I think a European team will win the World Cup. Given the state of the Brazilian team, I don't see much chance for Brazil to do well in this World Cup. On the other hand, Lionel Messi may retire in the next World Cup or even if he doesn't retire, he may not perform as well as he did in the 2022 World Cup. In that case, considering all these aspects, I think there are some European teams that have been doing very well recently and they will have a better chance of winning the title. In terms of doing well in the 2026 World Cup, I would put France, Spain, Germany and England slightly ahead. If these teams can prepare well and perform accordingly, I believe they will finish the next World Cup in a good position.

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June 10, 2025, 03:54:03 PM
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Unfortunately, Indonesia's hopes of winning have now disappeared. The current score also shows the difference in the quality of these two national teams which is very contrasting. Japan was able to break into Indonesia's goal without any problems. They have now managed to score 5 goals and maybe there will be several more goals scored. It seems like STY and Patrick have not been able to make Indonesia match Japan's performance. Maybe it's because the difference in player quality is quite clear that this can happen.

Why is the Indonesian national team's defense weaker than usual? Even though everyone was certainly not surprised by the defeat, in this meeting the number of goals was the highest than usual. In the previous meeting, Indonesia lost with a score of 0-4. And in today's match Indonesia lost with a score of 6-0. Well that's not a result to be proud of. But it was a disappointing result. When facing Australia we also saw the number of goals which was almost close, namely 5-1 and yes at that time it was still quite good because Indonesia was at least able to reply with 1 goal. But in this match I was really disappointed because Indonesia was not even able to mount a single attack throughout the match. And that's a pretty embarrassing thing too. A change of coach doesn't seem to make things better. In fact I think it gets a little worse.
You should know that Indonesia is weak when it comes to football and I wasn't expecting any surprise from them in this match after their poor performance in previous matches. They have a poor defense, midfield and attack. I wonder how you expect them to win their matches. Coach is not the cause of the problem but the lack of seriousness from the players.

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June 10, 2025, 03:59:26 PM
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The Belgium-Wales match was a very good match. In previous years, national matches were very boring and had few goals, but especially in this time, we are watching enjoyable and goal-rich matches. A total of 7 goals were scored in the match. Belgium took a 3-0 lead, but Wales did not give up. They scored one goal in the first half and 2 more in the second half, making the score 3-3.

Belgium scored the 4th goal with Lukaku, but the ball had already crossed the touchline, so they cancelled out the goal. Kevin De Bruyne made a great single shot on the cross from the right with 5 minutes left in normal time, making the score 4-3.
Belgium completed the match, which they would have won comfortably, with a hard time.
It was a tough match against Wales for Belgium. To be honest when score was 3:1 in favor of Belgium I thought that everything is over for Wales and Belgium will score more in the second half, but the Welsh team showed character and managed to equalize the score and the second draw for Belgium would be critical, because Macedonia and Wales would have 8 points, and Belgium would have only 2.

Belgium is lucky that it has such players as De Bruyne and Lukaku, who can win almost any match and what will happen to the Belgian national team when these two players leave is not very clear, because even now in not the most difficult group Belgium has problems with the playoffs.

We can also mention Juri Tillemans and under Emery's guidance he is progressing and yesterday Tillemans managed to score a goal and give a pass to De Bruyne.

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June 10, 2025, 03:59:59 PM
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today of course there are so many match schedules that of course make us all confused about which match to choose which match do you think you choose which match to watch? if I apparently want to watch the Japan vs Indonesia match because I come from Indonesia and I want to see Indonesia win even though of course it is not easy for the Indonesian national team to win.
As an Indonesian, I will also watch the Japan vs Indonesia match. Even though I know Indonesia will most likely lose. But I won't mind that. because I think we all know there is a clear difference between the quality of the Japanese national team and the quality of the Indonesian national team. Moreover, even from the FIFA rankings, the difference is very, very big. So what we expect from Indonesia is perhaps whether they can show a better game or not than usual. Even if Indonesia loses but can score a goal against Japan then that is good enough in my opinion.

That ls true if you consider their strength base on H2H meetings with your country's team, FIFA ranking and base on their physical strength as a team, and the last three times they met with Indonesia, the Japanese team all won the game with this scores respectively 4-1, 4-0 and now 6-0, obviously this shows how destructive the Japanese team can be against your team,  However, sometimes you never can tell the outcome of a football match until it's played.

 
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June 10, 2025, 04:00:05 PM
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The final score was 6-0 for Japan victory, as an Indonesian citizen I am quite disappointed with what happened today, they had no resistance at all, they had difficulty getting even one chance, even for a corner kick they didn't get it. Yes the quality of the players from both countries is very different but in my opinion since Kluivert hands the national team game has been less interesting, if you remember when it was still in Shin hands, they were still able to put up resistance against Japan.
Well, now we can say that the Indonesian national team was still a little better when STY was still the coach. And well, at that time, at least Indonesia could provide resistance, even if only a little. Meanwhile, the Indonesian national team under Kluivert's coaching seems to be a weaker team. Not only in defense, but also in the attack line, this team doesn't seem very creative in building attacks. What makes this team even more disappointing is that the passing accuracy of the Indonesian national team players is really bad. They made more mistakes in this match.

And as we can see, this is a very, very disappointing match statistical result. 0 shots is a number that already answers how weak the Indonesian national team is.












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June 10, 2025, 04:10:12 PM
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Unfortunately, Indonesia's hopes of winning have now disappeared. The current score also shows the difference in the quality of these two national teams which is very contrasting. Japan was able to break into Indonesia's goal without any problems. They have now managed to score 5 goals and maybe there will be several more goals scored. It seems like STY and Patrick have not been able to make Indonesia match Japan's performance. Maybe it's because the difference in player quality is quite clear that this can happen.

Why is the Indonesian national team's defense weaker than usual? Even though everyone was certainly not surprised by the defeat, in this meeting the number of goals was the highest than usual. In the previous meeting, Indonesia lost with a score of 0-4. And in today's match Indonesia lost with a score of 6-0. Well that's not a result to be proud of. But it was a disappointing result. When facing Australia we also saw the number of goals which was almost close, namely 5-1 and yes at that time it was still quite good because Indonesia was at least able to reply with 1 goal. But in this match I was really disappointed because Indonesia was not even able to mount a single attack throughout the match. And that's a pretty embarrassing thing too. A change of coach doesn't seem to make things better. In fact I think it gets a little worse.
You should know that Indonesia is weak when it comes to football and I wasn't expecting any surprise from them in this match after their poor performance in previous matches. They have a poor defense, midfield and attack. I wonder how you expect them to win their matches. Coach is not the cause of the problem but the lack of seriousness from the players.
Both teams make some changes into their squad even i have seen some of Japan young players make their debut in this match and i have watching this match indeed Indonesia performing poorly they even unable get out of Japan pressure which in this match Japan playing with very aggressive and indeed although both teams had different quality which Japan players quality above to Indonesia but i never thought Indonesia will lost with a lot of goals but regardless all of it at least indonesia can able to reach to 4th round and i think they should be focus to this round later on October

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June 10, 2025, 04:10:17 PM
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Why is the Indonesian national team's defense weaker than usual? Even though everyone was certainly not surprised by the defeat, in this meeting the number of goals was the highest than usual. In the previous meeting, Indonesia lost with a score of 0-4. And in today's match Indonesia lost with a score of 6-0. Well that's not a result to be proud of. But it was a disappointing result. When facing Australia we also saw the number of goals which was almost close, namely 5-1 and yes at that time it was still quite good because Indonesia was at least able to reply with 1 goal. But in this match I was really disappointed because Indonesia was not even able to mount a single attack throughout the match. And that's a pretty embarrassing thing too. A change of coach doesn't seem to make things better. In fact I think it gets a little worse.
You should know that Indonesia is weak when it comes to football and I wasn't expecting any surprise from them in this match after their poor performance in previous matches. They have a poor defense, midfield and attack. I wonder how you expect them to win their matches. Coach is not the cause of the problem but the lack of seriousness from the players.
Well, we all know how weak the Indonesian national football team is. but today's match results were the worst than usual. Just imagine seeing the Indonesian national team continuously being attacked without being able to respond to a single attack. The Japanese national team might even have scored more goals if they had been more serious. and I think we all very rarely expect Indonesia to win. But at least some of us just hope that Indonesia can put up a little resistance. But yeah that didn't happen at all. And yes, maybe you are right that this is not just about the coach but more about the players. We just need to know that under the previous coaching we saw the Indonesian national team was better than this.

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June 10, 2025, 04:13:09 PM
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Why is the Indonesian national team's defense weaker than usual? Even though everyone was certainly not surprised by the defeat, in this meeting the number of goals was the highest than usual. In the previous meeting, Indonesia lost with a score of 0-4. And in today's match Indonesia lost with a score of 6-0. Well that's not a result to be proud of. But it was a disappointing result. When facing Australia we also saw the number of goals which was almost close, namely 5-1 and yes at that time it was still quite good because Indonesia was at least able to reply with 1 goal. But in this match I was really disappointed because Indonesia was not even able to mount a single attack throughout the match. And that's a pretty embarrassing thing too. A change of coach doesn't seem to make things better. In fact I think it gets a little worse.

Indonesia got my attention in this qualification because of the addition of many foreign based players who naturalised in the country. The signing of Dutch legend Patrick Kluivert made me assume that their game standard would improve greatly. But the recent heavy defeats are making me doubt if they can make it to the World Cup. But the hope of reaching the competition is still alive with the slim win over China. Ole Romeny's goal was all that was needed to clinch that all-important win in Jakarta. China are now out of the race to qualify, with the country's hopes of winning the World Cup suffering a devastating blow.

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June 10, 2025, 04:26:18 PM
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Today we will have the final phase of matches in AFC third round qualifier. Picture is a lot clear now. Iran and Uzbekistan has qualified from Group A, and for the latter this will be the first time that they are qualifying to the FIFA World Cup. From Group B, South Korea and Jordan have qualified. Japan and Australia have qualified from Group C. For the fourth round, the scenario is still not that clear. For me, the strongest teams in this round are Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia and Indonesia.


surely at this time Uzbekistan, Iran, South Korea, Australia, Japan and Jordan must be very happy because they have qualified for the 2026 World Cup and of course I want to congratulate them and of course they are still lucky for those who will return to play in the 4th round because of course there is still a chance for them to qualify for the 2026 World Cup.

of course in the 4th round it certainly seems like it will happen again and of course now like Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Iraq and the United Arab Emirates will certainly try hard to get tickets to the 2026 World Cup. but if I personally favor Indonesia to win and finally qualify for the 2026 World Cup.

today of course there are so many match schedules that of course make us all confused about which match to choose which match do you think you choose which match to watch? if I apparently want to watch the Japan vs Indonesia match because I come from Indonesia and I want to see Indonesia win even though of course it is not easy for the Indonesian national team to win.
I can feel that! This last matchday is more than simply games, even if everyone is looking at separate displays. This is a coming-of-age time for countries like Jordan and Uzbekistan. You can tell by how Jordan rejoiced after the 3-0 win against Oman

Now, your faith in Indonesia is not misplaced. What they are building currently is considerably more complicated than most people think. Almost 90% of their starting XI is made up of players from the diaspora, notably Diks, Audero, and Idzes. It is as if Indonesia finally stopped trying to catch up and started bringing in raw talent from Europe. Diks is going to Monchengladbach, and Audero grew up in the Juventus system. You put it together with Kluivert's efforts to set up a contemporary, possession-based system. Might not pay off fully now, but if they keep this direction, 2026 or not, 2030 could be real

Japan will still control the game today. But even holding a 0-1 or 0-2 and showing some attacking intent would be a silent win for Indonesia. Keep in mind that Indonesia was ranked 170th+ in FIFA just a few years ago. Being here in the fourth round and rubbing shoulders with the Saudis and Iraqis is a message that they are no longer little fry

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June 10, 2025, 04:26:58 PM
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In the last World Cup, the Latin American team Argentina was the champion, but in the next World Cup, I think a European team will win the World Cup. Given the state of the Brazilian team, I don't see much chance for Brazil to do well in this World Cup. On the other hand, Lionel Messi may retire in the next World Cup or even if he doesn't retire, he may not perform as well as he did in the 2022 World Cup. In that case, considering all these aspects, I think there are some European teams that have been doing very well recently and they will have a better chance of winning the title. In terms of doing well in the 2026 World Cup, I would put France, Spain, Germany and England slightly ahead. If these teams can prepare well and perform accordingly, I believe they will finish the next World Cup in a good position.
I would put a little trust in the Brazilian national team just because of Ancelotti, that's it. When I saw the line up against Ecuador I was like WTF is this team. Teams like Brazil and Italy had a huge decline during the last 20 years, when the current players wouldn't even be considered as a 4th choice. The simple fact that people consider Vinicius as Brazil's star and he scored only 6 goals in 38 matches speaks volume about their current crisis.

Spain and France are the best teams in the world at the moment, just behind them Argentina and England. Germany are good but I don't see them winning the competition.

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June 10, 2025, 04:35:42 PM
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Today we have more games, the games in group G will be very interesting, the Netherlands will play against Malta, in this game the Netherlands cannot lose, because also in the same group there will be the game between Poland and Finland, this will be a very complicated game for both teams

but if Poland wins, they will have some comfort as leader of the Group while Finland will be in a very difficult situation, they probably will not be able to recover if they lose in the game against Poland. That is why the Netherlands also needs to win if they do not want to be in a very complicated situation.




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June 10, 2025, 05:07:38 PM
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Today we have more games, the games in group G will be very interesting, the Netherlands will play against Malta, in this game the Netherlands cannot lose, because also in the same group there will be the game between Poland and Finland, this will be a very complicated game for both teams

but if Poland wins, they will have some comfort as leader of the Group while Finland will be in a very difficult situation, they probably will not be able to recover if they lose in the game against Poland. That is why the Netherlands also needs to win if they do not want to be in a very complicated situation.


For today's match between Finland vs Poland, I think Poland will remain the favorite. It's just that I was quite sad when I found out that Lewandowski had withdrawn from the Polish national team. And yes, all of that was because there was a problem regarding the way the team captain's armband was removed by the coach. And I think Lewandowski still deserves to be captain because he is still really needed in the Polish national team. Besides that, he is the oldest player there, right? So yeah, this really surprised me. But I hope Poland remains strong even without Lewandowski.  Even though I actually want to see Lewandowski in that match.

For the Netherlands vs Malta match, it is clear that the Netherlands will be the favorite. In fact, I didn't hesitate to choose the Netherlands as the winner in that match.


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- https://sport.murianews.com/budi-santoso/441836/penyebab-lewandowski-mundur-dari-timnas-polandia-ternyata-begini

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June 10, 2025, 05:09:54 PM
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Croatia managed to win comfortably against the Czech Republic.Croatia, which scored 5 goals against its opponent, will now lead the group.The goals were scored by Gvardiol, Modric, Perisic, Budimir and Kramaric.Each goal had the signature of a different name.2 of the 5 goals came from penalties.I expected the Croats to struggle, but it must be said that they had a comfortable match.
The Faroe Islands also managed to get their first point in the group.The Faroe Islands won against Gibraltar with the goals they found in the second half and reached 3 points with this win.Let's say that Gibraltar closed the first half 1-0.The Faroe Islands increased the pressure in the second half and managed to win the match.
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June 10, 2025, 05:45:23 PM
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In the last World Cup, the Latin American team Argentina was the champion, but in the next World Cup, I think a European team will win the World Cup. Given the state of the Brazilian team, I don't see much chance for Brazil to do well in this World Cup. On the other hand, Lionel Messi may retire in the next World Cup or even if he doesn't retire, he may not perform as well as he did in the 2022 World Cup. In that case, considering all these aspects, I think there are some European teams that have been doing very well recently and they will have a better chance of winning the title. In terms of doing well in the 2026 World Cup, I would put France, Spain, Germany and England slightly ahead. If these teams can prepare well and perform accordingly, I believe they will finish the next World Cup in a good position.
The FIFA World Cup seems like labyrinth to me because it is completely impossible to predict with certainty which team will be able to win on such a big stage. At the moment France and Spain will be the favorites for everyone because they have some young talents in their teams who can take control of the match at any time. By the way you should probably also look at the Portugal team at the moment because they have some players in their team who are reliable.
The performance of Portugal's Nuno Mendes and Vitinha in the UEFA Champions League will surprise everyone even they have great dynamics in their performance and they even presented it to us perfectly in the final match of the UEFA Nations League.

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June 10, 2025, 06:07:55 PM
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Croatia managed to win comfortably against the Czech Republic.Croatia, which scored 5 goals against its opponent, will now lead the group.The goals were scored by Gvardiol, Modric, Perisic, Budimir and Kramaric.Each goal had the signature of a different name.2 of the 5 goals came from penalties.I expected the Croats to struggle, but it must be said that they had a comfortable match.
The Faroe Islands also managed to get their first point in the group.The Faroe Islands won against Gibraltar with the goals they found in the second half and reached 3 points with this win.Let's say that Gibraltar closed the first half 1-0.The Faroe Islands increased the pressure in the second half and managed to win the match.

Croatia will be the favorite in the group, while Gibraltar probably won't get a chance. Even in the previous qualifiers, out of 10 matches, Gibraltar didn't get any points at all.

Today, there is also the Netherlands vs Malta match. Malta didn't play well in the previous 3 matches. Now they will face a tougher team, not only the Netherlands but also Poland, who will probably be favored in the group.

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June 10, 2025, 06:22:55 PM
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Spalletti has put his achievements and image at risk. Leaving Napoli as champions seemed like a smart move for a "cushy" job with the Italian national team, but now Conte has managed to repeat that success, while Spalletti has failed with the national team. A sad story (especially for Italy haha). I wonder what kind of job Spalletti will be able to find, it is unlikely to be a top club.
As for Ranieri, I am not thrilled with this idea, it is a temporary option, why can't they find a coach with prospects.

Timing can sometimes be quite wrong, like in this case. Smiley

It should be taken into account though that for someone who went through a stressful time and realizes they need a sort of break or less pressure, these jobs as the coach of a national team are highly sought-after. The salaries for coaching national teams have significantly increased over the past 10-15 years and the workload is probably not even 30% of what it is when you coach a team that plays at the top of a domestic league and participates in the CL.

I think Spalletti will find a top club again.

Italy is more shooting from the hip these days. The national team has been in a bit of trouble for some time now. Their performance declined, but now time is turning into serious pressure as it is only about a year until this World Cup takes place. Ranieri can't lose, he is old and sees this as a great opportunity to have some more fun coaching a big nation. If he fails, he can blame the predecessors, if he wins he will let the nation call him a hero without Ranierei praising himself. Wink

He will find a pre-top club, roughly speaking the same as Napoli. Although they are in the big four and seem to be on par with two of the three clubs, Napoli's weight is not Juventus or Milan or Inter.
I understand why Ranieri does it, but I don't understand why the Italian national team does it. It seems like the wrong choice. Although maybe sometimes a team without a coach plays better than with a coach (whom for some reason they don't like, who knows what the situation was in the locker room with Spalletti, I didn't follow that closely). In this case, Ranieri would be the ideal option - he simply won't get in anyone's way.

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June 10, 2025, 06:34:12 PM
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Both teams make some changes into their squad even i have seen some of Japan young players make their debut in this match and i have watching this match indeed Indonesia performing poorly they even unable get out of Japan pressure which in this match Japan playing with very aggressive and indeed although both teams had different quality which Japan players quality above to Indonesia but i never thought Indonesia will lost with a lot of goals but regardless all of it at least indonesia can able to reach to 4th round and i think they should be focus to this round later on October

Indonesia has a mentality and quality that is far below Japan, this is the reality. Indonesian players still need more matches with strong teams like Japan before the 4th round. This is to maximize all the potential of the players and the coach can find the right formation for Indonesia. Hopefully in the 4th round, Indonesia will not meet a team that is too strong to maintain the opportunity to qualify for the World Cup. But I don't want to expect more, with a 6-goal from Japan, it indicates that there are many weaknesses in Indonesian team.

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June 10, 2025, 06:37:20 PM
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Unfortunately, Indonesia's hopes of winning have now disappeared. The current score also shows the difference in the quality of these two national teams which is very contrasting. Japan was able to break into Indonesia's goal without any problems. They have now managed to score 5 goals and maybe there will be several more goals scored. It seems like STY and Patrick have not been able to make Indonesia match Japan's performance. Maybe it's because the difference in player quality is quite clear that this can happen.


I had bet on Japan to win but not with this number of goals. With no doubt Indonesia will be out of the world cup after losing to China weeks ago, now to Japan. They are 12 points in the qualification, while there is no assurance they can finish third in the group with Saudi Arabia topping them with 2 points.

The only opportunity they have is in October, but that is only if they finish third or fourth in the group. They are lucky to be in the fourth place though because they will be qualifying for the fourth round playoffs scheduled around 8 to 14 October this year.

The match ended 6:0

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June 10, 2025, 06:43:15 PM
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Croatia will be the favorite in the group, while Gibraltar probably won't get a chance. Even in the previous qualifiers, out of 10 matches, Gibraltar didn't get any points at all.

12 goals and only 1 goal conceded in 2 matches played by Croatia, surely Croatia is the favorite of group l.
Czechia is the last team that Croatia defeated and Czechia is now the leader of group l as it has completed 4 matches with 9 points.
When Croatia was able to beat Czechia with a score of 5-1, on paper, the other teams in group l made it easy for Croatia to target full points in each match.

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Today, there is also the Netherlands vs Malta match. Malta didn't play well in the previous 3 matches. Now they will face a tougher team, not only the Netherlands but also Poland, who will probably be favored in the group.

The Netherlands in group g is relatively tight competition. Not Malta, Lithuania, but Poland as a strong team based on the victory that Poland has got although the two teams defeated by Poland according to us are also not tough teams.
Against Malta, the Netherlands can target a score over.

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