Any Lottery players here? Pick 2, Cash 3, Cash 4, Pick 5 numbers in particular.

[Coin_trader]

Let's take the case of the philippine controversial numbers that come out in a lottery where there were over 400 winners

This event occurred because the winning number has pattern which is the common denominator for all the winners. I’m sure those who claim that they dreamed it saw this number combination before that’s why there brain remind them about this combination through the dream.

Using statistics to create a pattern is really useless not just because the result is really pure random and also he/she can experience a tremendous waste of win like what happened on the 400 winners of the lotto that you mention. Betting on numbers with pattern will surely gonna have same winner since many people is thinking like this.

[virasisog]

Let's take the case of the philippine controversial numbers that come out in a lottery where there were over 400 winners

This event occurred because the winning number has pattern which is the common denominator for all the winners. I’m sure those who claim that they dreamed it saw this number combination before that’s why there brain remind them about this combination through the dream.

Using statistics to create a pattern is really useless not just because the result is really pure random and also he/she can experience a tremendous waste of wins like what happened to the 400 winners of the lotto that you mention. Betting on numbers with patterns will surely gonna have the same winner since many people are thinking like this.

Others may have not believed the result but we can't deny the fact that a big number of people could have the same number combination out of nowhere. Filipinos have different mantras and beliefs when it comes to lottery number combinations. Some of them base it on the current events and birthdays of the family members. Some combinations are funny and weird but they keep on using the same numbers with the same hope of winning.

[acroman08]

I believe you can study historical data, patterns and certain numbers follow and hit after certain numbers come out as winners.   I would love to discuss theory with anyone who understands this and have any theories of their own.

I am curious why exactly you think this would improve your chances of winning the lottery. all these studies can do is give you the most common numbers that show up on the lottery results, and even if you chose the most common numbers that show up on the winning lottery tickets your chance of winning will still be the same.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I believe you can study historical data, patterns and certain numbers follow and hit after certain numbers come out as winners.   I would love to discuss theory with anyone who understands this and have any theories of their own.

I am curious why exactly you think this would improve your chances of winning the lottery. all these studies can do is give you the most common numbers that show up on the lottery results, and even if you chose the most common numbers that show up on the winning lottery tickets your chance of winning will still be the same.

I guess one thing or should I call it mistake some gamblers make is thinking or seeing luck and chance as the same thing.
Luck and chance are to different things.
A gambler can luckily win a bet, or lottery after doing some number calculations or studying, that by luck, he won that lottery does not mean his chances of winning that lottery increased an inch for studying the numbers.

This is what the op does not understand, studying numbers does not move your chances of winning the lottery an inch, it all still depends on how luck chooses to shine on the player.

[buwaytress]

Somewhat agree if the 3/4/5 number system works like it does where I come from (it is based off horse racing results earlier on the same day).

I'm not 100% sure it works exactly the same way, but the numbers drawn are somehow tied to the numbers of the horses that win the day's races. So let's say Horses 2,3 and 7 win top 3 on the main race, then 2,3 and 7 are the pool drawn from for 1st prize.

The window to buy the numbers are closed before the races start but you can already more or less base your picks on horse odds, perhaps in a small window of 5 minutes?

So, not patterns, but "research".

[PawGo]

The main thing is that each time the result is “independent”, there is no memory. Therefore there is no “justice”, past results has no impact on the future one.
You may do statistical analysis, you may believe in “systems”, you may prefer odd or even numbers - all that is just a looking for a patterns where there are no patterns.
Yes, it is interesting to see how many times number 7 was selected in the last 10 years, but it has nothing to do with the predictions.

[serjent05]

Other players study the previous winning numbers and do a comparison of the probability of the number to be chosen next.  Even though we all know that the result of the lottery is random, others believe in a certain pattern in how the number is selected.  But I still believe as long as the result is not rigged, no one can precisely predict the outcome of the lottery because there is a 1 in 13,983,816 chance to hit the right combination no matter how much they research on the next winning number.  Any resemblance to other results is possibly a coincidence.

[autoprt]

I was in the NBA forum and the subject of lottery numbers came up and I didn't want to hijack that forum and didn't see anything lottery related. The discussion came up that numbers are random and there isn't anyway to improve your chances to win and I disagreed.  I believe you can study historical data, patterns and certain numbers follow and hit after certain numbers come out as winners.  

It's funny to see this very statement of yours, because if really there was any way to study historical data, patterns and certain numbers win a lottery thrown at random, then mathematicians or statistician would have been the most richest people in the world today, or the set with the most lottery winning history, and not ordinary people just like you and I. Because on this very motion, I strongly stand behind what those people on the NBA forum said that in lottery, there is no formula to improving your chances of winning, than buying more lottery ticket over and over again, because apart from that. No other way.

i keep saying i am in agreement with you with the fact that with mega lotteries the odds are too great to make a difference no matter what you do.  i get that.  i am talking about smaller lotteries where you only pick 3 or 4 numbers where the odds are substantially smaller you can increase your odds.  if you have 1 in 999 odds you can do certain things to increase your odds of winning a pick or cash 3 number. i truly believe if you don't play a cash 3 you aren't understanding what i'm talking about and can only relate this to what you know about and that is the mega and powerball lotteries.

To clarify i'm talking about picking numbers like 123 218, 345 for cash 3 and 1234 or 2343 for cash 4.  I'm not talking about guessing a mega number set like 1-2-3-4-5 and then the mega ball.  That is pretty much impossible and can't be predicted any kind of way.   I am being redundant since many don't seem to fully understand what my point was.

[redsun114]

Other players study the previous winning numbers and do a comparison of the probability of the number to be chosen next.  Even though we all know that the result of the lottery is random, others believe in a certain pattern in how the number is selected.  But I still believe as long as the result is not rigged, no one can precisely predict the outcome of the lottery because there is a 1 in 13,983,816 chance to hit the right combination no matter how much they research on the next winning number.  Any resemblance to other results is possibly a coincidence.

Not just on lottery but also on other luck based games like for example in dice. There are some who thinks that the previous result has to do with the future result. They can also invent different strategies. There are times where co-incident happens and they win.

This can fuel their beliefs and think that what they did is really working. Well if they play the game this way, I think it's fine and we shouldn't correct them because these people can only hate us. A belief is only wrong once there are people who already got hurt or if the believer is the one who is hurting himself/herself. If that is the case then they should be stopped in a forced manner.

[dothebeats]

You're in for a treat if you think lottery numbers can be predicted and follow certain patterns and use historical data to produce future draws. There were a number of studies trying to use Mathematics in order to predict future draws—or at least get close to what the actual numbers are. Most of them, in paper and in theory, seem sound and would have likely worked. However, when they're applied in the real world they're not even close to what the actual numbers are. Sure, computers can try and exhaust all the possible numbers that are most probable to appear in the draws, but the number of these combinations would surely be high still, and if you want to hit one big win you will have to invest in a number of combinations and of course, some substantial amount of $$$ without any guarantee that those numbers presented to you will hit.

Perhaps if you're one of those people behind the scenes during a lottery draw, you would know the outcomes. Results can be rigged, and it's as easy changing some balls with lighter ones and tada! You just have won a few million dollars thanks to cheating and your access to those magic balls of destiny.

The main thing is that each time the result is “independent”, there is no memory. Therefore there is no “justice”, past results has no impact on the future one.
You may do statistical analysis, you may believe in “systems”, you may prefer odd or even numbers - all that is just a looking for a patterns where there are no patterns.
Yes, it is interesting to see how many times number 7 was selected in the last 10 years, but it has nothing to do with the predictions.

True, no matter how exhaustive your analysis is, and no matter how much processing power you have put in to come up with a pattern, or even with a system of predicting future draws, you will always lose your money to the lottery no matter what.

If lottery is that easy to crack, and if there is a system to it, then why aren't mathematicians and computer scientists band together and get the prize every single time?

[worldofcoins]

I was in the NBA forum and the subject of lottery numbers came up and I didn't want to hijack that forum and didn't see anything lottery related. The discussion came up that numbers are random and there isn't anyway to improve your chances to win and I disagreed.  I believe you can study historical data, patterns and certain numbers follow and hit after certain numbers come out as winners.   I would love to discuss theory with anyone who understands this and have any theories of their own.

I don't believe in any pattern in the lottery which can guarantee your winning, as the winning is always uncertain.
We can't predict any specific design or theory called authentic and genuine.

[Eureka_07]

I was in the NBA forum and the subject of lottery numbers came up and I didn't want to hijack that forum and didn't see anything lottery related. The discussion came up that numbers are random and there isn't anyway to improve your chances to win and I disagreed.  I believe you can study historical data, patterns and certain numbers follow and hit after certain numbers come out as winners.   I would love to discuss theory with anyone who understands this and have any theories of their own.

I think it would be rare if the same numbers are being drawn from the machine every day (if the lottery is daily). So what I think is better is to avoid those numbers. Some people though might include those numbers in their picks since these number is hot from the following days. But for me, every time it is drawn, it'll have a lower chance to be included in the winning numbers on the next day. Regardless, since it is random, that still does not make sense when it comes to statistics.

[serveria.com]

I was in the NBA forum and the subject of lottery numbers came up and I didn't want to hijack that forum and didn't see anything lottery related. The discussion came up that numbers are random and there isn't anyway to improve your chances to win and I disagreed.  I believe you can study historical data, patterns and certain numbers follow and hit after certain numbers come out as winners.   I would love to discuss theory with anyone who understands this and have any theories of their own.

Basically, you can win in a lottery draw if:

a) you're extremely lucky
b) you buy a boatload of tickets

I'm not a math guy really, but I guess you can find all the necessary calculations online. You need to buy A LOT of tickets, only then you have a decent chance of winning.

[kotajikikox]

I was in the NBA forum and the subject of lottery numbers came up and I didn't want to hijack that forum and didn't see anything lottery related. The discussion came up that numbers are random and there isn't anyway to improve your chances to win and I disagreed.  I believe you can study historical data, patterns and certain numbers follow and hit after certain numbers come out as winners.   I would love to discuss theory with anyone who understands this and have any theories of their own.

I think it would be rare if the same numbers are being drawn from the machine every day (if the lottery is daily). So what I think is better is to avoid those numbers. Some people though might include those numbers in their picks since these number is hot from the following days. But for me, every time it is drawn, it'll have a lower chance to be included in the winning numbers on the next day. Regardless, since it is random, that still does not make sense when it comes to statistics.

If I remember it right , there is a thread here about some bunch of people tries to win against lottery and yes some of them succeeded after calculation and studies and of course with bit capital to use.
i understand the frustration to win lottery but for me ? it is better to stay that way of Luck based gambling , just bet with one ticket and limited amount trying to find your luck and not to carry your entire living from the chance of winning.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

If I remember it right , there is a thread here about some bunch of people tries to win against lottery and yes some of them succeeded after calculation and studies and of course with bit capital to use.

If they won the lottery, it had nothing to do with the 'system' used. Like if I go to the casino saying I have a system to win at roulette, I bet on a single number and I win. All lotteries give out considerably less in prizes than they collect, maybe 30-40%, sometimes less. Which means that if you used the great system of buying all the numbers to win you would be left with at least 30% less than the money used, depending on the lottery.

All the rest is just mental wankery.

[wxa7115]

Basically, you can win in a lottery draw if:

a) you're extremely lucky
b) you buy a boatload of tickets

I'm not a math guy really, but I guess you can find all the necessary calculations online. You need to buy A LOT of tickets, only then you have a decent chance of winning.

There is in theory a way to improve your chances to win but it is too troublesome for most people to follow, most lotteries use a machine which uses air to add randomness to the process and make it fair for the participants of the lottery.

If we assume the same machine is used for long enough and you gather all the results the machine has given, it is possible you could find numbers which appear more often than they should, you could pick those numbers and increase your chances of winning, but this method is simply too laborious and I do not expect most people to pull this off.

[klidex]

If lottery is that easy to crack, and if there is a system to it, then why aren't mathematicians and computer scientists band together and get the prize every single time?

In fact, there are many ways or formulas for predicting lottery numbers, and if they can be made correctly and correctly, then the percentage of matching numbers that comes out is 70-80%, so there is a big chance of winning the lottery.
There are several lottery players that I know and they have their own formula for getting numbers and the results often win even though only 2/3 of the output numbers can be absolutely correct.
If you ask why mathematicians and computer scientists don't band together to get a prize all the time then the answer is they can benefit quite a lot from their skills and they must already have enough wealth so why should they bet on the lottery.

[btc78]

Let's take the case of the philippine controversial numbers that come out in a lottery where there were over 400 winners

This event occurred because the winning number has pattern which is the common denominator for all the winners. I’m sure those who claim that they dreamed it saw this number combination before that’s why there brain remind them about this combination through the dream.

Using statistics to create a pattern is really useless not just because the result is really pure random and also he/she can experience a tremendous waste of wins like what happened to the 400 winners of the lotto that you mention. Betting on numbers with patterns will surely gonna have the same winner since many people are thinking like this.

Others may have not believed the result but we can't deny the fact that a big number of people could have the same number combination out of nowhere. Filipinos have different mantras and beliefs when it comes to lottery number combinations. Some of them base it on the current events and birthdays of the family members. Some combinations are funny and weird but they keep on using the same numbers with the same hope of winning.

we can see that some times the winners are being divided for couple of people meaning you are right that the combination of numbers are the same with each others and this increase the way of the Lottery to earn more than what the wins can provided so meaning also that there is no always winner here but the team behind the game.

[piebeyb]

there is no formula to improving your chances of winning, than buying more lottery ticket over and over again, because apart from that. No other way.

it's hard to win the lottery because it's true that there is no other way but to buy lots of lottery tickets to win, but actually this is also due to the luck factor, the same as when playing gambling using lots of strategies but luck will find the winner.

[Daltonik]

I was in the NBA forum and the subject of lottery numbers came up and I didn't want to hijack that forum and didn't see anything lottery related. The discussion came up that numbers are random and there isn't anyway to improve your chances to win and I disagreed.  I believe you can study historical data, patterns and certain numbers follow and hit after certain numbers come out as winners.   I would love to discuss theory with anyone who understands this and have any theories of their own.

I think it would be rare if the same numbers are being drawn from the machine every day (if the lottery is daily). So what I think is better is to avoid those numbers. Some people though might include those numbers in their picks since these number is hot from the following days. But for me, every time it is drawn, it'll have a lower chance to be included in the winning numbers on the next day. Regardless, since it is random, that still does not make sense when it comes to statistics.

If I remember it right , there is a thread here about some bunch of people tries to win against lottery and yes some of them succeeded after calculation and studies and of course with bit capital to use.
i understand the frustration to win lottery but for me ? it is better to stay that way of Luck based gambling , just bet with one ticket and limited amount trying to find your luck and not to carry your entire living from the chance of winning.

This requires the creation of a large community united by a common idea, who will not leave after several failures and who are willing to spend money to buy lottery tickets, for example, all this requires the cost of attracting, but quite often it can also turn out to be a scam on the part of the organizers of the pursuit of winnings.