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December 30, 2022, 08:25:54 PM
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Some investors fear the current market situation and looking down on Bitcoin because of its current price not realizing that it's already time to accumulate more of it and hold until the market recovers again. Holding would really be the best thing to do during this msrket season. It's hard to risk on day trading without enough knowledge because it's a broad and complex thing. If you want to make a good profit without dealing with too much risks, holding will be a wise move.
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December 30, 2022, 09:15:52 PM
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Some traders trade for a living so it will be difficult avoiding trading to focus on hodling. The best is to strike a balance between both side of the crypto hustle. More fraction for hold and the lesser percent for trade. It won't be a bad idea accumulating in the dip using DCA as a strategy and also catching the change in price through trading strategies. Through trading even if Price keeps going dipper a good analyst will always have a profit through trading.

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December 30, 2022, 09:46:59 PM
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Some investors fear the current market situation and looking down on Bitcoin because of its current price not realizing that it's already time to accumulate more of it and hold until the market recovers again. Holding would really be the best thing to do during this msrket season. It's hard to risk on day trading without enough knowledge because it's a broad and complex thing. If you want to make a good profit without dealing with too much risks, holding will be a wise move.

On that particular statement about day trading, I agree that without deeper knowledge you will add more pressure with your investment and can
result to a huge number of losses.

Crypto market had a huge volatility, either you can use it in your favor after learning the fundamentals and have a good overview of most factors
that can affect the market movement in general.

Those are the things that will allow you to decide whether to hold or to do the short trade.
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December 30, 2022, 10:21:36 PM
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Some traders trade for a living so it will be difficult avoiding trading to focus on hodling. The best is to strike a balance between both side of the crypto hustle. More fraction for hold and the lesser percent for trade. It won't be a bad idea accumulating in the dip using DCA as a strategy and also catching the change in price through trading strategies. Through trading even if Price keeps going dipper a good analyst will always have a profit through trading.

do you want to try to say about trading scalping which will be better applied to short term trading and futures trading which is suitable for two-way trading and will benefit even though the price continues to fall? Each type of trading has its own advantages and risks. To apply the right trading strategy, you must do some research and adjust the suitable trading type. Holding is also a type of long-term trading, it's just that holding will continue to hold until the main target price is reached and DCA accumulates more and more assets.
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December 30, 2022, 11:14:45 PM
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Some investors fear the current market situation and looking down on Bitcoin because of its current price not realizing that it's already time to accumulate more of it and hold until the market recovers again. Holding would really be the best thing to do during this msrket season. It's hard to risk on day trading without enough knowledge because it's a broad and complex thing. If you want to make a good profit without dealing with too much risks, holding will be a wise move.
^It is very simple, just hold and wait for the profit was there but the fact that many people now did not have the patience to wait, they wanted to gain profit in a short period of time or a quick profit, that is why they gamble investing on altcoins or doing trading even though they don't have experience and skills. The purpose of BTC to become a digital currency will probably change to a store value, because people see it as a potential of using to store value than using as a digital currency and as a means of payment.
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December 31, 2022, 07:21:26 AM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
to be honest, I trade only when bullish comes because that's when it's much easier to make a profit.
for now I only use 90% of my funds for me to hold in bitcoin and the rest is for interest if one day there is a situation where it is possible to trade with a small amount.
for me the current situation is an opportunity to buy and collect (DCA) to hold onto until the bulls really come to grace the market.

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December 31, 2022, 07:52:06 AM
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I don't really have a right answer to this from my point of view. Because it is difficult to determine exactly what percentage of funds should be hold, and what percentage should be used for trading. When the market creates a huge volatility, panic spreads in the market and along with it the strategies of the traders change. But the most important thing is that you should not trade with all your funds, you should trade only with those funds that you can afford to lose. I made a lot of mistakes during the last market dump, which I should never have done.
I do tell newbies to use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade. Also I can encourage someone that is no more a newbie but that is still losing more than gaining to still continue to use the amount of money he can afford to lose to trade. But as for experienced traders, they do more than that. I can afford to lose 5% of my 100% funds on cryptocurrencies, but I still go up to 20% to trade while the remaining 80% for holding. Trading is like gambling but not gambling, that is why I prefer to treat trading the way it is. But for traders that do not have experience, trading can even take more than gambling.

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December 31, 2022, 09:32:56 AM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

You are right and I strongly believe I'm the bull market,  it is something that will definitely come as far as the market is concerning.  I'm very comfortable with the bull market because I have nothing to lose if I hold what I'm having till when the bull markets comes. The risk in trading is high expecially for beginners. My advice for people who lose much on trading should trade with a smaller amount of money that can be afforded to lose. It is is better to put in more money in investing than trading for those who believe in hodling.

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December 31, 2022, 11:44:30 AM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

According to me this depends on how good you are at trading. If you are able to make profits even in a bear market then you can consider trading.
You can assign 50% of your money to trading while holding the rest but if you don't make decent profits then you should avoid trading.
This is a time where we bitcoin can flip any moment and you might lose or make a considerable amount of profit.
So if I were at your place I would avoid trading and hold instead.

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December 31, 2022, 02:18:24 PM
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Some traders trade for a living so it will be difficult avoiding trading to focus on hodling. The best is to strike a balance between both side of the crypto hustle. More fraction for hold and the lesser percent for trade. It won't be a bad idea accumulating in the dip using DCA as a strategy and also catching the change in price through trading strategies. Through trading even if Price keeps going dipper a good analyst will always have a profit through trading.
Holding bitcoins is a good thing because we've suddenly seen the history of bitcoins rising. We want to get a big profit from selling the bitcoins that we have accumulated for a long time at the highest price, which will happen again in the future. We can see the bitcoin price rise again in the next year or a few more years. And right now, we can buy more bitcoins using DCA, so that's a way that we can collect more bitcoins. But be careful when buying bitcoin because the market situation can decline even deeper than now, and make sure we can buy when the price is below.
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December 31, 2022, 04:46:26 PM
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Indeed, holding is actually much better than trading. Bitcoin is a volatile but extremely unpredictable asset so trading can sometimes bring good profits but can also make us lose, even lose everything if the price of bitcoin is volatile too much. But if you just hold, buy low and only sell when bitcoin is higher, it means it is always profitable and almost risk free for us.
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December 31, 2022, 05:06:21 PM
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According to me this depends on how good you are at trading. If you are able to make profits even in a bear market then you can consider trading.
You can assign 50% of your money to trading while holding the rest but if you don't make decent profits then you should avoid trading.
This is a time where we bitcoin can flip any moment and you might lose or make a considerable amount of profit.
So if I were at your place I would avoid trading and hold instead.
20%, 50%, or 100% - it lies on the decision of the trader. If we are pro-traders, we already know what is best for us. We can't push ourselves to risk more if we know that it was likely impossible because we never rely on luck as we are not gambling but we rely on knowledge and skill as we are trading. If we miss any of these things, I think is better to forget about trading and let's focus on holding. I see this option will save us from losing more.

Sometimes we have to open our eyes and see who really we are when it comes to trading.



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December 31, 2022, 07:03:13 PM
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I won't advise anything to anyone as that is their personal thing. They can do whatever with their funds. But I can tell you my method. Usually I don't trade much, specially in future trading. When I was new to this whole trading concept, I jumped straight into trading with a small fund. I lost almost all in future trading. And took a huge L in spot too.
After that, I stopped trading for a few months. Then I learned from every source that I can find. Now to this day, I don't consider myself a pro, I am still learning. But I don't do the same mistake that I did back then. Just gather enough knowledge about chart and market's movement and then trade and learn as you move forward.
As OP mentioned.
Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.
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December 31, 2022, 07:09:18 PM
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As you stated, your advice is good for newbie traders who cannot make good gains in the current bear market.
For professional traders who know their chat and make gains, trading is always the best option for them.

But it is not easy to be able to learn trading to such a level that your profits will exceed your losses.
It takes perseverance and many years of accumulated experience to attain to such height.

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December 31, 2022, 07:37:41 PM
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I do tell newbies to use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade. Also I can encourage someone that is no more a newbie but that is still losing more than gaining to still continue to use the amount of money he can afford to lose to trade. But as for experienced traders, they do more than that. I can afford to lose 5% of my 100% funds on cryptocurrencies, but I still go up to 20% to trade while the remaining 80% for holding. Trading is like gambling but not gambling, that is why I prefer to treat trading the way it is. But for traders that do not have experience, trading can even take more than gambling.
Have been similar between trading and gambling based on profit earn or loss for every one have greedy, less knowledge and actually trader with hype moment and allow what the other recommended, I think newbies has potential allow third step above and they can loss their investment fund when allowing other recommended about moment buy and invest with Bitcoin.

Exactly true with what did you said, newbies can't manage with their loss and most disappointed when looking portfolio drop 10% until 20%, but as experience trader and know more how risk when investing in cryptocurrency losing more than 50% have been usual habit and try to wake up another day with lucky moment.

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December 31, 2022, 09:53:49 PM
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If you advise trader who is losing to trade with 20% of fund and keep 80% of fund in hodling, so how are you sure that a trader who has been losing will still be able to do well with the 20%? This is still difficult to do. I was thinking the best advise will be to caution on the use of high leverage because traders don't really understand leverage techniques. Using a lower leverage can help you stay in the market longer before your stop loss is hit, it may revert you back to entry point where you regain your running loses.
A trader is a risk taker, and any trader is liable to adventure into risk in trading,so i believe that if someone wants to be a good trader you will seek from the opinion of orders, so a trader most be careful and adopt some method that will make them not to lose some percentages, so i believe that information of trading is something that we understand through the achievement of another person example or experience.
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December 31, 2022, 10:29:55 PM
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I just went 100% to holding instead of still trying the <20% trade since I was not winning anyway and I do not have the full time to still do trading. To add up to your advice, traders should also check if they can stress it out to do the trading the whole day. Indicators or signals or TAs would only get you so far and you might not even make a single penny in a day.
That's at least from my experience though. It could be different for others.
I am not thinking of going back to day trading just yet so there's that.
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December 31, 2022, 11:12:24 PM
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I just went 100% to holding instead of still trying the <20% trade since I was not winning anyway and I do not have the full time to still do trading. To add up to your advice, traders should also check if they can stress it out to do the trading the whole day. Indicators or signals or TAs would only get you so far and you might not even make a single penny in a day.
That's at least from my experience though. It could be different for others.
I am not thinking of going back to day trading just yet so there's that.
Every women should start leaning how to defend themselves and not let anyone to bully them, we should give respect to everybody regardless of the value. Holding and trading are both ok, all you have to is to balance and know where to put your money. Trading needs a lot of time and attention so if you are a busy person, then holding good coins are moe ideal and safe for me.

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December 31, 2022, 11:31:34 PM
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honestly such strategy is only suited if you have many spare time, so that you can wait your investments to grow, the thing with such strategy is that you also need to invest around bullish if you want it to be effective. after all, if you invested around bearish like it is right now, you definitely gonna be waiting few years until your investments could recover its value let alone giving you good returns. which is actually okay if you have the time to spare, the reason other might not really favour this method is because they have constrained duration in their investments so this kind of investment model wouldn't do in the long run.

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December 31, 2022, 11:59:50 PM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Currently trading at this time seems very risky to me. I hold 100%. I pretty much stopped trading. Then without knowing my mind I took a trade but there I am still in a lot of losses. So in this bad market I suggest to refrain from trading. Holding is better than trading in these bad times.  If you can hold on to these bad times, surely you will achieve something good soon. Trading especially requires extra time, if you don't have it, you must hold on. So I say it's better to hold on.
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