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December 29, 2022, 10:42:14 AM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

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December 29, 2022, 11:00:11 AM
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What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

I am not a day trader. I trade only when I see good market conditions and of course, see my mood. maybe that's what made my trading skills so bad.
but I usually use 50% of the funds I set up for trading or gambling. I usually choose one of them, when I've traded, then I'm not going to the casino.

I have divided my long term investment assets, of which 70% is Bitcoin. as for trading, I have my allocation, which as much as possible I will not let my long term planning be disturbed.


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December 29, 2022, 11:16:22 AM
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I've chosen to hold at most times and if I'd trade, I still do it under different circumstances where I think that I'll make a profit. Not just random trades but I am making sure that there's something positive to happen for it. For the newbies, it's okay to trade and that will serve you as a lesson and will help you gain experience but always have that good allocation on how much you're willing to learn a lesson and lose at the same time. 5% is already good enough for your whole fund.

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December 29, 2022, 11:52:42 AM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

The only thing that is important as a trader here in the crypto industry is that we will not give up on our belief in cryptocurrency, as a financial solution to our problem.

Doing trading activity here can give us profit, there is a time every day and there is also a time when it is not, because of the volatility that exists in cryptocurrency. That's why if everyone only has a goal management that is called in trading, we will not notice that later we are doing DCA via percentage that we give like for example 15% for the profit we get from trading and this is what will be separated ours for long term holdings or it depends on you.


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December 29, 2022, 11:58:39 AM
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Many traders are too afraid to HODL Bitcoins for 1 or 2 years.
Some traders are selling their BTC for stablecoins and waiting for the next Bitcoin bull market. I'm not a fan of stablecoins in general, but this seems like way to protect the value of their portfolio, if the BTC price drops below 10K USD. The first downside of this tactic is that many traders would just keep their stablecoins in centralized exchanges(which is risky, FTX is the best example), the second downside is the stablecoin prices crashing, due to the developers lying about the actual reserves(Terra/Luna).
Perhaps a better way would be to just sell BTC for fiat and keep the fiat. The problem here is the high inflation, which will devalue all fiat money.
In summary, there's no win-win situation here.
I'm not a fan of altcoin/shitcoin day trading, especially in times of a bear market.

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December 29, 2022, 12:27:49 PM
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What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

There's really no right answer to this — as it will totally depend on things like your risk appetite and the actual size of your bankroll. It's almost like asking what the right percentage to invest in crypto is.

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December 29, 2022, 02:46:18 PM
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I don't think all trader mindset with holding could be better because they are trying with profitable earn in daily day, I dislike with long term holding trough Bitcoin still not stable yet and have opportunity back to lower price. I get decision earn as soon possible when profit reaching about 10% until 15% and buy back later with lower price.

I sure have potential earn more than 100% with long term holding, but I have to earn profit in daily day because still low budget for long term investment, exactly I have to earn about 10% in daily or minimum can earn until 50% in a weeks. I have spent with long term holding with Bitcoin only as four years cycle can give impact for bitcoin break higher price.

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December 29, 2022, 02:55:12 PM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Holding means long term trading and its counterpart would be short term trading. Majority of bitcoin should be kept on holding while a minimum amount for short term, but this can vary depending on your personal reasons.

Holding is safer and better in terms of mental ease that you have bought at low and you can sell at any good price. The wrong decisions are done due to lack of experience of having gone through bear-bull cycles in the past, common for newbies and impulsive decisions, commonly taken by gamblers. Lack of patience is another issue where they start with a long term goal but start panicking and sell midway.

So I guess everyone has their own sweet spot, some might want to take more risks so these numbers would not be same for all.

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December 29, 2022, 03:03:00 PM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

I think 80% should go into "safe" investments like real estate/gold/bonds/good stocks. 20% in crypto, where 15% in hodling 5% in trading account. No matter how much you bealive in crypto, never put 100% into any single type of assets.
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December 29, 2022, 03:10:19 PM
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If you advise trader who is losing to trade with 20% of fund and keep 80% of fund in hodling, so how are you sure that a trader who has been losing will still be able to do well with the 20%? This is still difficult to do. I was thinking the best advise will be to caution on the use of high leverage because traders don't really understand leverage techniques. Using a lower leverage can help you stay in the market longer before your stop loss is hit, it may revert you back to entry point where you regain your running loses.
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December 29, 2022, 03:11:23 PM
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I have also watched the analysis of Mark Moss about having no bull run anymore and that the last was last year. Quite crazy to think in my opinion because the amount of BTC is just too few and the halving will always trigger the market rally.

If you buy at the current price the better for you to be holding on to it. Somehow spot trading in the bull market is always a good idea but not in the bear market.

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If you advise trader who is losing to trade with 20% of fund and keep 80% of fund in hodling, so how are you sure that a trader who has been losing will still be able to do well with the 20%? This is still difficult to do. I was thinking the best advise will be to caution on the use of high leverage because traders don't really understand leverage techniques. Using a lower leverage can help you stay in the market longer before your stop loss is hit, it may revert you back to entry point where you regain your running loses.
using only 20% of funds for trading is also a good suggestion. because traders lose too often, trade with small capital first to give experience. and saving more will help the trader to keep the investment asset. but your advice is also very good. it helps new traders.

I do not know for sure what percentage I traded. maybe 30-40%. could be bigger. because every BTC I earn from the campaign, I will put into another wallet for the long term, and the less I will accumulate into trading capital.

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December 29, 2022, 04:50:15 PM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


Not only newbie, but also all the veteran traders make these mistakes for which they suffer at last. Greed is the main prototype which a trader should control. Newbies and Traders fall for the greed and over trade for which ultimately they make mistakes. I know sometimes holding is better and for that reason they always advise to trade in budget. As if you go over budget and trade with your savings, then at crucial times you will be forced to sell the coins when holding might be the ideal option. So act and invest accordingly.

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December 29, 2022, 04:50:37 PM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Good point to invest with money we are prepared to lose. But to be honest, I can hardly say anything about the percentage of the amount to be traded at a loss as you say. Maybe I'd rather say there's no percentage for that, why? because basically we don't want to experience losses even if only 1% of the amount of money we have.
We are in a situation where we have to take advantage of the opportunities that are in front of us because the current price is worth investing in. So do your best, and we'll meet our very desired price in the future.

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December 29, 2022, 04:53:45 PM
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Many traders are too afraid to HODL Bitcoins for 1 or 2 years.
Some traders are selling their BTC for stablecoins and waiting for the next Bitcoin bull market. I'm not a fan of stablecoins in general, but this seems like way to protect the value of their portfolio, if the BTC price drops below 10K USD. The first downside of this tactic is that many traders would just keep their stablecoins in centralized exchanges(which is risky, FTX is the best example), the second downside is the stablecoin prices crashing, due to the developers lying about the actual reserves(Terra/Luna).
Perhaps a better way would be to just sell BTC for fiat and keep the fiat. The problem here is the high inflation, which will devalue all fiat money.
In summary, there's no win-win situation here.
I'm not a fan of altcoin/shitcoin day trading, especially in times of a bear market.

Inflation reduces the value of your fiat but it's not as fast as bitcoin's decline. If you don't like holding bitcoins for a long time, then choosing to hold fiat is safer than keeping the stablecoin on an exchange. I'm a holder, and I still have funds available to DCA every time bitcoin drops more, but I don't hold the stablecoin because it's unsafe. I hold it in fiat, and so far despite high inflation, that loss is negligible compared to buying bitcoin at its peak or holding shitcoin.

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December 29, 2022, 04:57:43 PM
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I usually base my capital allocated on trading to the fiat value and not through percentage. I have a limit of maximum 100$ capital per coin that I want to invest. The percentage varies base on my overall capital but I have a fixed amount of 100$ per trade on each altcoin. Only Bitcoin can get the majority of my capital since that's the only coin I trust with huge capital.

I believe most people here look on the fiat amount and not solely on percentage for capital allocation on there trade.

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December 29, 2022, 05:16:51 PM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
We still have some few expert traders who are making profits from trading even with the current market condition,  but it all depend on the percentage allocation to both day trade and long term holding.

Indeed any one that is holding bitcoin at this current price is still at advantage, because there is high certainty that bull run will follow immediately after the bitcoin halving in 2024, but that is a long time from now even though we can still see a bull run before then because of the volatility of Bitcoin.

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I don't really have a right answer to this from my point of view. Because it is difficult to determine exactly what percentage of funds should be hold, and what percentage should be used for trading. When the market creates a huge volatility, panic spreads in the market and along with it the strategies of the traders change. But the most important thing is that you should not trade with all your funds, you should trade only with those funds that you can afford to lose. I made a lot of mistakes during the last market dump, which I should never have done.

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December 29, 2022, 08:10:46 PM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

You know, I am also one of those who believe in a four-year period and hope that this time everything will happen as before, that is, by the end of 2025 we will see another flight to the moon. Yes, this is just my vision, nothing more, but in reality everything can happen differently. But if we assume that everything will be so, then now we are really in the accumulation zone and our task is to accumulate or save our crypto assets. As for trading, I traded a little and it's hard to say how best to do it. But if there is an opportunity to trade and earn, then you need to use this opportunity 100% but not take risks.
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
This is actually subjective because each trader does have its own preference on how many percentage that they would really be that using into their trading or their stashes.
Doesnt matter if its 20% or more or less, its your money and just let them decide on whatever things that they would really be doing. Its true that its better to hold but we know that
there are people who doesnt really like to wait up longer or more years and if we do compare out the profits for someone who do actively trade than into those holders
then it would be much but of course it would really be having that risks.This is why it would really be depending whether you could bare up the risk or not.

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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

20%? You are joking? This is a huge risk. It has long been known that the correct risk management says that you need to allocate MAXIMUM 2% of the deposit for a trade, no more. Only under such conditions can we count on long-term success. I did not come to this right away, I also started with a high risk of 25%, but over time I realized that the lower the risk, the more stable the trade. At the end of my activity, my risk was in the range of 1,36-1,66% of my deposit.
Basing on my understanding, he might talking into that investment allocation which 80% should be on holding and 20% of those funds would be allocated for trading and this isnt really that 100% of trading capital he's been talking which it is really true that putting 20% is a huge risks.(I dont know if im correct) but this is really basing on my understanding.
Holding or trading then it would really be depending on someones choice because there are people who cant really just wait for long time without doing something or simply there are people who
do accept out the risk and this is why they've decided to make out some trades rather than on making themselves do sit and wait.

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I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run.
Seriously I can't really forget 2020, around April 2020, Bitcoin price was down, I was able to accumulate some bitcoin, but I didn't have enough money so I was not satisfied with amount of bitcoin I was holding, but before the year runs out, Bitcoin started pumping. I was regretting because I was not having much bitcoin in my wallet, have being looking for opportunity to accumulate more bitcoin, Since we entered the bear market have being accumulating more bitcoin.

Am always shaking my head and laughing whenever I see people complaining about the bear market, some people even sell their bitcoin, they don't know that this is buying opportunity, this is the right time to accumulate more bitcoin, I don't want to regret that I haven't accumulated enough bitcoin in the next bull run, any extra money am having am investing it in bitcoin.

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I have also watched the analysis of Mark Moss about having no bull run anymore and that the last was last year. Quite crazy to think in my opinion because the amount of BTC is just too few and the halving will always trigger the market rally.

If you buy at the current price the better for you to be holding on to it. Somehow spot trading in the bull market is always a good idea but not in the bear market.
And who is this mark moss? Another fudder in BTC? Hmm. The amount of BTC isn't few but there are over 19m BTC that have been mined. If you mean the price then yes it is low right now compared to its last ATH.

A lot are saying that halving event can cause the price to rise. I do believe on that but I also believe that it's not only about the halving. BTC can rise randomly, especially if there is some unexpected positive event that happened like some country adopts BTC or some whales/large companies bought a huge load of BTC. We are currently in a bear so buying now still guarantees a profit even only at a small recovery. Hodling longer can be optional.

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Permit me to say this is crypto imperialism, lol. You sound as if you are trying to force your own idea on people who prefer to trade. The truth is that everyone has its own way of making profits. If yours is by holding then that's fine and let those who choose to trade be. Holding can be beneficial if you are patient enough because it takes long time but trading will you a reason to smile or cry in a jiffy.
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
50% can already be a good amount to deal with their trading, they are still newbie which is more prone to error and emotional trades so better not to go all in. Holding is still advisable because this can save your from losing that much and you can’t succeed on trading as a newbie so better not to expect too much. Trading will always takes time and this is not an overnight success, usually it took years depends on how serious you are to learn how to trade properly.
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Since I was in here and taking the risk, I'd use 100% of the funds to trade as a trader. Why we should hold if the purpose of being here is to trade? We can never call ourselves if we are doing that (holding). Of course, it doesn't mean that we use the entire amount in a single trade, you'll somehow hold some for the next trade.

The only thing that I could say is that - make use of all of your money if you wanted to enjoy as a trader otherwise, you are not a trader but rather call yourselves a holder. And if ever you fail, then have no option but to stop trading and just go to holding as a normal investor does.

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December 29, 2022, 09:28:25 PM
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Permit me to say this is crypto imperialism, lol. You sound as if you are trying to force your own idea on people who prefer to trade. The truth is that everyone has its own way of making profits. If yours is by holding then that's fine and let those who choose to trade be. Holding can be beneficial if you are patient enough because it takes long time but trading will you a reason to smile or cry in a jiffy.
OP is just reminding the newbies to take things slower and there is no need to rush here in the market, if you can’t still trade properly since you are still a newbie then you can just hold and diversified your crypto. No one is stopping you to trade with your money, but the data says that many newbies are suffering from a big losses on their first trades, so to avoid that better to limit first your capital for trading and just increase it over time.

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Trading is matter of calculation and when you calculate wrongly and lose,is when you will know that  any person who wants s a trader supposed to know that in trading you are suppose to trade on what you can afford to lose, and some of the traders now doesn't knowns exactly what to do when they lose their another of investment funds, that is why when they lose their money they do be in sober, so your comment from the beginning is nice doe everyone not particularly a newbies only
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.

All people not only newbies must understand about this. This is one of the basic things to always have when getting investment, Always invest only the amount that we can afford to loose.

Holding may be better moreover for those who are not good in trading and who are still new in trading or crypto. but, it is important to understand what crypto to hold. For, not all cryptos are valuable for holding. we have seen how many shit cryptos that are ended to be dead cryptos. So here, Only hold Bitcoin that has trust, value, and also journey.

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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.

All people not only newbies must understand about this. This is one of the basic things to always have when getting investment, Always invest only the amount that we can afford to loose.

Holding may be better moreover for those who are not good in trading and who are still new in trading or crypto. but, it is important to understand what crypto to hold. For, not all cryptos are valuable for holding. we have seen how many shit cryptos that are ended to be dead cryptos. So here, Only hold Bitcoin that has trust, value, and also journey.
It would be more sensible and much more wiser if we do make out that kind of decision on which Bitcoin is something that should be mainly hold off and some top ranking coins that we do have the market.
Really had to ignore nor deny that there are also good projects which is really worth for you to invest or hold on and its true that holding isnt something just for those people who do lack skills and knowledge
but rather it is really something that wise to be done if you arent that sure on what you should gonna do.Its up to someones choice and yet its our money that had been invested
then you do know on how you would be handling yourself.

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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
20% seems like the maximum amount of money a newbie trader should use when they are testing the waters, that amount of money should be enough to let them know if their strategy works or not, and if they can make money trading the markets then they could always use a bigger share of their capital to multiply their profits, but if they fail, and we need to be honest the majority of them will fail, then they can keep most of their capital intact and recover it during the next bull run by simply holding their coins.
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
It was better if they don't continue and stop trading until such time that he gains more knowledge and skills. We don't have to urge ourselves to become a trader if we actually just suffering losses because it only affects our goals and strategies. The more we trade with loss, the more it bothered us how to recover those losses until getting out of our minds and lose control of our emotions. I don't think we have to reach that far before we realized, it is better to stop and proceed to hold all of our funds to have a safe play.

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December 30, 2022, 12:34:17 PM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
I can say that holding is more profitable than any other method, and now is still a good time to keep adding bitcoins to our bag. Any percentage 20% 80% or 100% if it is applied to Bitcoin then holding it longer will give more profit and safer, and I feel long term holders have peace of mind compared to day trades

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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
I can say that holding is more profitable than any other method, and now is still a good time to keep adding bitcoins to our bag. Any percentage 20% 80% or 100% if it is applied to Bitcoin then holding it longer will give more profit and safer, and I feel long term holders have peace of mind compared to day trades
Trading seems another way to earn a profit every day if possible but in the situation that OP has presented to us, I don't think it is a need to pursue our trading carrier if we only just lose our money. From that situation, we never have a better option than just HOLD. You can add more if you want but trading more, that was not a perfect idea, it wil just leads us to spend all our money on nothing. I think we can't afford to do that rather than stop our imagination to become rich in trading.

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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
I can say that holding is more profitable than any other method, and now is still a good time to keep adding bitcoins to our bag. Any percentage 20% 80% or 100% if it is applied to Bitcoin then holding it longer will give more profit and safer, and I feel long term holders have peace of mind compared to day trades

Trading is the most profitable; let's just say you will win 1% per day and it will accumulate, but again, the cons are that it is not safer than holding a bitcoin and is not stress-free (unless you keep checking the price). This really depends on the person since some prefer trading and some want to hold. I do most of my trading when I have free time, and I also have bitcoin in my wallet to hold since I treat holding it as a savings in case I need it in the future.
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I concur that investing and saving whatever amount you may comfortably manage without it having an impact on your bills Buy some bitcoins rather than spending $3 per day on Starbucks or a snack. $30 each month is $3 every day. Put it in bitcoin and hold onto it. If you didn't practice DCA consistently in 2022, you can make it a goal for the new year that starts in 48 hours.

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The only thing that is important as a trader here in the crypto industry is that we will not give up on our belief in cryptocurrency, as a financial solution to our problem...

For a trader, it is more important to get a profit than faith in cryptocurrency itself. Therefore, it does not matter for a trader whether the market is in a bearish or bullish cycle. In this case, the volatility, which is the highest in the crypto market, is more important for the trader.

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Since I am not a pro trader, so holding is the better option for me. I don't care much about predictions those been saying there will not be a bull or Bitcoin will go zero. But I can't hold longer. My habit is getting the advantage of the volatile, I sell my holding when having some profits and buy back into the dip. Doesn't matter if it's Bitcoin or altcoin, I follow the same strategy for all. If I miss any coin to make great profits then I move to another. That's how I hold my coins. Hold but take advantage of volatility.

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Since I am not a pro trader, so holding is the better option for me. I don't care much about predictions those been saying there will not be a bull or Bitcoin will go zero. But I can't hold longer. My habit is getting the advantage of the volatile, I sell my holding when having some profits and buy back into the dip. Doesn't matter if it's Bitcoin or altcoin, I follow the same strategy for all. If I miss any coin to make great profits then I move to another. That's how I hold my coins. Hold but take advantage of volatility.
Holding is the way of choice and while not trading like a professional trader, you are making a wise choice. Instead of having to do something that we are not good at, it is better to do work that we already understand. Maybe in terms of profits it will be different from professional traders, also the time needed will be much longer than those who are already pros. But this is part of minimizing the losses that you will get when you force yourself to do something you don't understand. Do this kind of thing, if we don't want to be at a higher risk.

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I am one of those traders that are not favoured with daily trading, I only jump into the market when I observed a slight opportunity that I have a strong conviction about. And I currently have sum bucks I put into bitcoin for a long term purpose waiting for a bull in price and another sum I do use for opportunity I see in the market based on volatility of the coin am interested in, finally I have my normal business I run too. Now going by the percentage on each over 100% my normal business I run takes in 60%, then 30% for hodlin and 10% for trading based on opportunity I see in the market.

Wether hodlin for long term  or day trading , anyone that's convenient for you as a trader  should be what you engage into and not to follow what others as doing. Do what profits you as the end point of each strategy is profit making and nothing less.

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Some investors fear the current market situation and looking down on Bitcoin because of its current price not realizing that it's already time to accumulate more of it and hold until the market recovers again. Holding would really be the best thing to do during this msrket season. It's hard to risk on day trading without enough knowledge because it's a broad and complex thing. If you want to make a good profit without dealing with too much risks, holding will be a wise move.
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Some traders trade for a living so it will be difficult avoiding trading to focus on hodling. The best is to strike a balance between both side of the crypto hustle. More fraction for hold and the lesser percent for trade. It won't be a bad idea accumulating in the dip using DCA as a strategy and also catching the change in price through trading strategies. Through trading even if Price keeps going dipper a good analyst will always have a profit through trading.

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December 30, 2022, 09:46:59 PM
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Some investors fear the current market situation and looking down on Bitcoin because of its current price not realizing that it's already time to accumulate more of it and hold until the market recovers again. Holding would really be the best thing to do during this msrket season. It's hard to risk on day trading without enough knowledge because it's a broad and complex thing. If you want to make a good profit without dealing with too much risks, holding will be a wise move.

On that particular statement about day trading, I agree that without deeper knowledge you will add more pressure with your investment and can
result to a huge number of losses.

Crypto market had a huge volatility, either you can use it in your favor after learning the fundamentals and have a good overview of most factors
that can affect the market movement in general.

Those are the things that will allow you to decide whether to hold or to do the short trade.
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Some traders trade for a living so it will be difficult avoiding trading to focus on hodling. The best is to strike a balance between both side of the crypto hustle. More fraction for hold and the lesser percent for trade. It won't be a bad idea accumulating in the dip using DCA as a strategy and also catching the change in price through trading strategies. Through trading even if Price keeps going dipper a good analyst will always have a profit through trading.

do you want to try to say about trading scalping which will be better applied to short term trading and futures trading which is suitable for two-way trading and will benefit even though the price continues to fall? Each type of trading has its own advantages and risks. To apply the right trading strategy, you must do some research and adjust the suitable trading type. Holding is also a type of long-term trading, it's just that holding will continue to hold until the main target price is reached and DCA accumulates more and more assets.
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Some investors fear the current market situation and looking down on Bitcoin because of its current price not realizing that it's already time to accumulate more of it and hold until the market recovers again. Holding would really be the best thing to do during this msrket season. It's hard to risk on day trading without enough knowledge because it's a broad and complex thing. If you want to make a good profit without dealing with too much risks, holding will be a wise move.
^It is very simple, just hold and wait for the profit was there but the fact that many people now did not have the patience to wait, they wanted to gain profit in a short period of time or a quick profit, that is why they gamble investing on altcoins or doing trading even though they don't have experience and skills. The purpose of BTC to become a digital currency will probably change to a store value, because people see it as a potential of using to store value than using as a digital currency and as a means of payment.
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December 31, 2022, 07:21:26 AM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
to be honest, I trade only when bullish comes because that's when it's much easier to make a profit.
for now I only use 90% of my funds for me to hold in bitcoin and the rest is for interest if one day there is a situation where it is possible to trade with a small amount.
for me the current situation is an opportunity to buy and collect (DCA) to hold onto until the bulls really come to grace the market.

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I don't really have a right answer to this from my point of view. Because it is difficult to determine exactly what percentage of funds should be hold, and what percentage should be used for trading. When the market creates a huge volatility, panic spreads in the market and along with it the strategies of the traders change. But the most important thing is that you should not trade with all your funds, you should trade only with those funds that you can afford to lose. I made a lot of mistakes during the last market dump, which I should never have done.
I do tell newbies to use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade. Also I can encourage someone that is no more a newbie but that is still losing more than gaining to still continue to use the amount of money he can afford to lose to trade. But as for experienced traders, they do more than that. I can afford to lose 5% of my 100% funds on cryptocurrencies, but I still go up to 20% to trade while the remaining 80% for holding. Trading is like gambling but not gambling, that is why I prefer to treat trading the way it is. But for traders that do not have experience, trading can even take more than gambling.

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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

You are right and I strongly believe I'm the bull market,  it is something that will definitely come as far as the market is concerning.  I'm very comfortable with the bull market because I have nothing to lose if I hold what I'm having till when the bull markets comes. The risk in trading is high expecially for beginners. My advice for people who lose much on trading should trade with a smaller amount of money that can be afforded to lose. It is is better to put in more money in investing than trading for those who believe in hodling.

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December 31, 2022, 11:44:30 AM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

According to me this depends on how good you are at trading. If you are able to make profits even in a bear market then you can consider trading.
You can assign 50% of your money to trading while holding the rest but if you don't make decent profits then you should avoid trading.
This is a time where we bitcoin can flip any moment and you might lose or make a considerable amount of profit.
So if I were at your place I would avoid trading and hold instead.

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December 31, 2022, 02:18:24 PM
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Some traders trade for a living so it will be difficult avoiding trading to focus on hodling. The best is to strike a balance between both side of the crypto hustle. More fraction for hold and the lesser percent for trade. It won't be a bad idea accumulating in the dip using DCA as a strategy and also catching the change in price through trading strategies. Through trading even if Price keeps going dipper a good analyst will always have a profit through trading.
Holding bitcoins is a good thing because we've suddenly seen the history of bitcoins rising. We want to get a big profit from selling the bitcoins that we have accumulated for a long time at the highest price, which will happen again in the future. We can see the bitcoin price rise again in the next year or a few more years. And right now, we can buy more bitcoins using DCA, so that's a way that we can collect more bitcoins. But be careful when buying bitcoin because the market situation can decline even deeper than now, and make sure we can buy when the price is below.
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Indeed, holding is actually much better than trading. Bitcoin is a volatile but extremely unpredictable asset so trading can sometimes bring good profits but can also make us lose, even lose everything if the price of bitcoin is volatile too much. But if you just hold, buy low and only sell when bitcoin is higher, it means it is always profitable and almost risk free for us.
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According to me this depends on how good you are at trading. If you are able to make profits even in a bear market then you can consider trading.
You can assign 50% of your money to trading while holding the rest but if you don't make decent profits then you should avoid trading.
This is a time where we bitcoin can flip any moment and you might lose or make a considerable amount of profit.
So if I were at your place I would avoid trading and hold instead.
20%, 50%, or 100% - it lies on the decision of the trader. If we are pro-traders, we already know what is best for us. We can't push ourselves to risk more if we know that it was likely impossible because we never rely on luck as we are not gambling but we rely on knowledge and skill as we are trading. If we miss any of these things, I think is better to forget about trading and let's focus on holding. I see this option will save us from losing more.

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December 31, 2022, 07:03:13 PM
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I won't advise anything to anyone as that is their personal thing. They can do whatever with their funds. But I can tell you my method. Usually I don't trade much, specially in future trading. When I was new to this whole trading concept, I jumped straight into trading with a small fund. I lost almost all in future trading. And took a huge L in spot too.
After that, I stopped trading for a few months. Then I learned from every source that I can find. Now to this day, I don't consider myself a pro, I am still learning. But I don't do the same mistake that I did back then. Just gather enough knowledge about chart and market's movement and then trade and learn as you move forward.
As OP mentioned.
Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.
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As you stated, your advice is good for newbie traders who cannot make good gains in the current bear market.
For professional traders who know their chat and make gains, trading is always the best option for them.

But it is not easy to be able to learn trading to such a level that your profits will exceed your losses.
It takes perseverance and many years of accumulated experience to attain to such height.

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I do tell newbies to use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade. Also I can encourage someone that is no more a newbie but that is still losing more than gaining to still continue to use the amount of money he can afford to lose to trade. But as for experienced traders, they do more than that. I can afford to lose 5% of my 100% funds on cryptocurrencies, but I still go up to 20% to trade while the remaining 80% for holding. Trading is like gambling but not gambling, that is why I prefer to treat trading the way it is. But for traders that do not have experience, trading can even take more than gambling.
Have been similar between trading and gambling based on profit earn or loss for every one have greedy, less knowledge and actually trader with hype moment and allow what the other recommended, I think newbies has potential allow third step above and they can loss their investment fund when allowing other recommended about moment buy and invest with Bitcoin.

Exactly true with what did you said, newbies can't manage with their loss and most disappointed when looking portfolio drop 10% until 20%, but as experience trader and know more how risk when investing in cryptocurrency losing more than 50% have been usual habit and try to wake up another day with lucky moment.

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If you advise trader who is losing to trade with 20% of fund and keep 80% of fund in hodling, so how are you sure that a trader who has been losing will still be able to do well with the 20%? This is still difficult to do. I was thinking the best advise will be to caution on the use of high leverage because traders don't really understand leverage techniques. Using a lower leverage can help you stay in the market longer before your stop loss is hit, it may revert you back to entry point where you regain your running loses.
A trader is a risk taker, and any trader is liable to adventure into risk in trading,so i believe that if someone wants to be a good trader you will seek from the opinion of orders, so a trader most be careful and adopt some method that will make them not to lose some percentages, so i believe that information of trading is something that we understand through the achievement of another person example or experience.
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I just went 100% to holding instead of still trying the <20% trade since I was not winning anyway and I do not have the full time to still do trading. To add up to your advice, traders should also check if they can stress it out to do the trading the whole day. Indicators or signals or TAs would only get you so far and you might not even make a single penny in a day.
That's at least from my experience though. It could be different for others.
I am not thinking of going back to day trading just yet so there's that.
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I just went 100% to holding instead of still trying the <20% trade since I was not winning anyway and I do not have the full time to still do trading. To add up to your advice, traders should also check if they can stress it out to do the trading the whole day. Indicators or signals or TAs would only get you so far and you might not even make a single penny in a day.
That's at least from my experience though. It could be different for others.
I am not thinking of going back to day trading just yet so there's that.
Every women should start leaning how to defend themselves and not let anyone to bully them, we should give respect to everybody regardless of the value. Holding and trading are both ok, all you have to is to balance and know where to put your money. Trading needs a lot of time and attention so if you are a busy person, then holding good coins are moe ideal and safe for me.

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honestly such strategy is only suited if you have many spare time, so that you can wait your investments to grow, the thing with such strategy is that you also need to invest around bullish if you want it to be effective. after all, if you invested around bearish like it is right now, you definitely gonna be waiting few years until your investments could recover its value let alone giving you good returns. which is actually okay if you have the time to spare, the reason other might not really favour this method is because they have constrained duration in their investments so this kind of investment model wouldn't do in the long run.

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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Currently trading at this time seems very risky to me. I hold 100%. I pretty much stopped trading. Then without knowing my mind I took a trade but there I am still in a lot of losses. So in this bad market I suggest to refrain from trading. Holding is better than trading in these bad times.  If you can hold on to these bad times, surely you will achieve something good soon. Trading especially requires extra time, if you don't have it, you must hold on. So I say it's better to hold on.
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

Zero percentage, any trader that isn't profitable in his/her time during trading should stop trading with immediate effect and focus on investing by holding Bitcoin and other well established projects. If you aren't winning trades then that means you haven't acquired the knowledge rightfully so you should go back to the drawing boards and start learning afresh or widen your knowledge on how to trade.

If you learnt a specific trading strategy then you have to unlearn that particular strategy as it isn't working for you and learn a new one. No trader that losses should continue trading no matter how small the money been used is as it'll only lead to more losses.

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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Currently trading at this time seems very risky to me. I hold 100%. I pretty much stopped trading. Then without knowing my mind I took a trade but there I am still in a lot of losses. So in this bad market I suggest to refrain from trading. Holding is better than trading in these bad times.  If you can hold on to these bad times, surely you will achieve something good soon. Trading especially requires extra time, if you don't have it, you must hold on. So I say it's better to hold on.

It is safer than holding but mostly on bear market they will not do any trades because they will be lossing . Holding on the other hand is good  or purchasing bitcoin on bear market since  if the price is back for sure you'll get profit. Trading really requires time but some only spends few hours since they are do day trading and they will only trade once . The most stressful is scalping that you'll be in monitoring always to see when is the best time to trade
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
If they can analyze the market, they can continue to trade with 20% of their capital while holding the rest. It can be done but if they are not sure that they can trade and make a profit, it is better to hold the coin and not decide to trade. It will be better for them because they will not lose more money trading and can wait until the market picks up again. But I don't trade much because the situation is uncertain until now and I only do DCA. And until now, I can do that strategy while waiting for market conditions to recover.

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Holding still requires a plan until when you will hold your assets because of you know how to make an execution of your assets; you can now make an entry and exit quickly with a profit or less loss of your holdings. People get FOMO in the market because they think they are late, but there's a chance of getting down more because of their fear they bought that still market is going down. Always make a trading plan decide a cut off of your losses and not pretending you are not lossing and still hoping to get back.

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January 01, 2023, 07:06:30 PM
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Holding still requires a plan until when you will hold your assets because of you know how to make an execution of your assets; you can now make an entry and exit quickly with a profit or less loss of your holdings. People get FOMO in the market because they think they are late, but there's a chance of getting down more because of their fear they bought that still market is going down. Always make a trading plan decide a cut off of your losses and not pretending you are not lossing and still hoping to get back.
Yeah, so many people think hodling is easy but hodling actually looked like this > I bet those who think it was easy have fail to HODL their coins for too long but they already sold it early for some reasons like they are too scared when they saw the price is crashing or they got too greedy when they saw that the price pumping, however there are two scenarios about this. One is already given there and the second one would be they will over HODL and miss the bull run completely.

There are indication that we can use to possibly tell if the coin is already at it's bottom or not. We can learn that. There's also threads here about price speculation, if we don't know how to do it. This should avoid us to FOMO.
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January 01, 2023, 07:15:04 PM
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Holding still requires a plan until when you will hold your assets because of you know how to make an execution of your assets; you can now make an entry and exit quickly with a profit or less loss of your holdings. People get FOMO in the market because they think they are late, but there's a chance of getting down more because of their fear they bought that still market is going down. Always make a trading plan decide a cut off of your losses and not pretending you are not lossing and still hoping to get back.
Yeah, so many people think hodling is easy but hodling actually looked like this > I bet those who think it was easy have fail to HODL their coins for too long but they already sold it early for some reasons like they are too scared when they saw the price is crashing or they got too greedy when they saw that the price pumping, however there are two scenarios about this. One is already given there and the second one would be they will over HODL and miss the bull run completely.

There are indication that we can use to possibly tell if the coin is already at it's bottom or not. We can learn that. There's also threads here about price speculation, if we don't know how to do it. This should avoid us to FOMO.
The funniest part is that those that do advise us to keep holding are mostly the ones that do not have any holdings because they are scared to hold or have sold most of there holdings. It is very difficult to hold a coin or different coins now that the market is never certain.
 It might be very easy for those that have sufficient funds to get what they want or for those that have leftovers. As this time, it is very difficult for an average man to hold now that the price of goods is getting high and no chances of it coming down. Inflation is high and we are all expected to feed and pay bills which could be very difficult for some families or persons.
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Every women should start leaning how to defend themselves and not let anyone to bully them, we should give respect to everybody regardless of the value. Holding and trading are both ok, all you have to is to balance and know where to put your money. Trading needs a lot of time and attention so if you are a busy person, then holding good coins are moe ideal and safe for me.
Uh... not sure why you inserted gender from what I just stated there as I am pretty sure that I was neutral about the gender on that.
Everyone can just hold or trade depending on what pleases them the most or what works for them. Either works, but it is entirely dependent on how does the said person can manage his/her own money and time.
Mine just did not work as I was working 9-5 and I almost have little time to work on my trading. Trading is not my hobby so it cannot be just be won by being "consistent" if I am not interested or committed to it.
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Holding, in my opinion, would be the best option, but people are always looking to trade and make a quick profit. When you warn, particularly about futures, people often ignore your warnings. I am aware of one person who made quite a profit from spot trading I wonder what drew her attention to futures, where lo and behold, a sizable amount was liquidated. If trading is what you want to do, remove greed from your mind, as for me personally I always accumulate and hold.

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Sometimes yes. In general, I cannot say that one of the strategies can be profitable or not always. Often this requires the trader to be able to choose the right strategy at the right time.

Why to follow a specific strategy everytime ? According to me when you invest something, then no strategy works the second time. It will be great if we take actions according to the situations. I mean why to follow the repeated strategy everytime we see a same situation? And to be very precise, holding isn’t a strategy for me. It’s just a necessary action that each trader should do when the market is unstable and pretty volatile.

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If we're going to settle with a specific amount of capital, I think you should have extra money and another for holding. Not make it to one capital. On your trading funds, you should set the amount per trade. For the HODL fund, accumulate more and more of it depending on the amount you can invest in a specific timeframe.

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Sometimes yes. In general, I cannot say that one of the strategies can be profitable or not always. Often this requires the trader to be able to choose the right strategy at the right time.

Why to follow a specific strategy everytime ? According to me when you invest something, then no strategy works the second time. It will be great if we take actions according to the situations. I mean why to follow the repeated strategy everytime we see a same situation? And to be very precise, holding isn’t a strategy for me. It’s just a necessary action that each trader should do when the market is unstable and pretty volatile.
Developing and verifying a single profitable strategy is incredibly time consuming, so most traders are not going to have the time to have specific strategies for every single market condition they may encounter, in that case a general strategy that works most of the time, albeit not perfectly, is preferable than having several strategies devised for many different market conditions, what you are proposing is the best case scenario, but very rarely traders will have the time or even the ability of using so many different strategies.
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Basically when newbies in the market start trading they invest without understanding and later face huge losses. So to do trading you must acquire good knowledge. And if you invest, you must invest in good coins. Bitcoin investing is definitely trending and gaining reputation as a successful trader. And right now market condition is not very good so holding will be better than trading. And if you hold, when the market increases, it will be possible to earn a lot of profit.
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Holding, in my opinion, would be the best option, but people are always looking to trade and make a quick profit. When you warn, particularly about futures, people often ignore your warnings. I am aware of one person who made quite a profit from spot trading I wonder what drew her attention to futures, where lo and behold, a sizable amount was liquidated. If trading is what you want to do, remove greed from your mind, as for me personally I always accumulate and hold.

We can't remove that fact those people really wanted to have a quick profit when placing their investment, trying to earn as quick as they
can and as big as possible.

But that's also the reason why many people losses huge amount in taking that chance, thinking that in a short run they can make decent
amount of money and not to think about the potential of losing huge.

Looking at your perspective, holding is good as long as you know the value of your investment and you understand the big potential
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Sometimes yes. In general, I cannot say that one of the strategies can be profitable or not always. Often this requires the trader to be able to choose the right strategy at the right time.

Why to follow a specific strategy everytime ? According to me when you invest something, then no strategy works the second time. It will be great if we take actions according to the situations. I mean why to follow the repeated strategy everytime we see a same situation? And to be very precise, holding isn’t a strategy for me. It’s just a necessary action that each trader should do when the market is unstable and pretty volatile.
Developing and verifying a single profitable strategy is incredibly time consuming, so most traders are not going to have the time to have specific strategies for every single market condition they may encounter, in that case a general strategy that works most of the time, albeit not perfectly, is preferable than having several strategies devised for many different market conditions, what you proposing is the best case scenario, but very rarely traders will have the time or even the ability of using so many different strategies.
We should really be that versatile as much as possible and it is indeed true that not all does have the time and the effort to be spend on finding every strategy for a specific market condition which they would
rather just be sticking into something that they do know and would be repeatedly be making use of it and if they dont have any choice then they would really be opting in on making some holding.
Holding could really be that worth on something likes Bitcoin and other some useful altcoins but not all does have that kind of patience on trying to wait for seeing profits
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

Everything will depend on whether you know how to trade? If the answer is negative, then any attempt to trade will ultimately result in the loss of the deposit, regardless of how much money you have allocated for this. If you have trading skills, then the best strategy for a losing position is to try to reduce the average order price by trading a small part of the deposit, which may be in the range of 20-30%.

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I think that people are just trading and hope that they will double their money in a seconds but actually it may not be possible because you require enough time to multiply this cash sometimes people lost money due to their mistakes and misunderstanding about trading. I will suggest that start from lower amount if you win then save your starting amount and use the remaining amount for trading so in this case it will not hard for you to get it back after losing it. Do not put whole money in trading because a person with greater knowledge can also loss if market goes against his thoughts.

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All of the predictions are correct, because I am a crypto coin holder, even though there is a bit of pessimism to see the attack by the Fed who wants crypto coins to be destroyed by paying black swans to attack crypto coins in all markets.

sometimes I think If there is no (Future), I believe in the 100K BTC.
If there is a Future, BTC to 5K only, big investors can profit. (FUTURE= HOLDER Killer)
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January 04, 2023, 04:31:32 PM
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Some investors fear the current market situation and looking down on Bitcoin because of its current price not realizing that it's already time to accumulate more of it and hold until the market recovers again. Holding would really be the best thing to do during this msrket season. It's hard to risk on day trading without enough knowledge because it's a broad and complex thing. If you want to make a good profit without dealing with too much risks, holding will be a wise move.
In a bear market situation like today, buying by taking advantage of every drop and then holding it in the long term is of course the right thing to do because it has proven to be able to provide decent returns, we often have to accept defeat when trading in a bear market, even though it is as good as whatever analysis we apply, because sometimes price movements don't move as we expect, so it's very difficult to get profits if you do day trading when the market tends to continue to decline.

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I think that people are just trading and hope that they will double their money in a seconds but actually it may not be possible because you require enough time to multiply this cash sometimes people lost money due to their mistakes and misunderstanding about trading. I will suggest that start from lower amount if you win then save your starting amount and use the remaining amount for trading so in this case it will not hard for you to get it back after losing it. Do not put whole money in trading because a person with greater knowledge can also loss if market goes against his thoughts.
Those type of people who think that they could trade very quickly and make money right away are people who have no idea what kind of talent they lack to do that. Same people who think that, also are the people who are incapable of doing it because they haven't studied trading enough. Because, anyone who studied trading would tell you that getting rich in a single day is impossible.

You have to trade like crazy, non-stop and constantly in order to make some good profits which would be very tough to handle. I believe that the best thing we could do right now is having some "hodl" situation for long term until the price recovers, and that won't be too long down the road I am sure.

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I think that people are just trading and hope that they will double their money in a seconds but actually it may not be possible because you require enough time to multiply this cash sometimes people lost money due to their mistakes and misunderstanding about trading. I will suggest that start from lower amount if you win then save your starting amount and use the remaining amount for trading so in this case it will not hard for you to get it back after losing it. Do not put whole money in trading because a person with greater knowledge can also loss if market goes against his thoughts.
Those type of people who think that they could trade very quickly and make money right away are people who have no idea what kind of talent they lack to do that. Same people who think that, also are the people who are incapable of doing it because they haven't studied trading enough. Because, anyone who studied trading would tell you that getting rich in a single day is impossible.

You have to trade like crazy, non-stop and constantly in order to make some good profits which would be very tough to handle. I believe that the best thing we could do right now is having some "hodl" situation for the long term until the price recovers, and that won't be too long down the road I am sure.

Some people who haven't done enough research think of it as an easy way of making money not knowing that it has risks and challenges most of the time because of the market's volatility. It requires enough understanding and analytic skills so it isn't easy as they think. It's a long and complex journey so if you feel that your knowledge and skills about trading aren't enough yet, just focus on holding while learning how to trade successfully so you can trade better in the future.
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Newbie traders shouldn't even start trading with real crypto. They should first master the demo and then when they feel confident enough should consider using 5% of their funds to test the water.
Therefore, 95% of their funds should go into holding.
One mistake they do is revenge trading and when they give in to this, they go beyond 5% funds and end up using up to 15% -20% resulting in terrible losses.

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January 04, 2023, 10:37:28 PM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Newbie traders shouldn't even start trading with real crypto. They should first master the demo and then when they feel confident enough should consider using 5% of their funds to test the water.
Therefore, 95% of their funds should go into holding.
One mistake they do is revenge trading and when they give in to this, they go beyond 5% funds and end up using up to 15% -20% resulting in terrible losses.

You cant honed or make yourself that emotionally stabled when you do deal up with demo, yes you could make yourself enhanced with those technical aspects on which its good but when it comes to emotional

aspect or part then it would really be that hard and this is why it would be better to deal off with live on putting some small amounts of capital and trying out not to bust yourself as early as you could.

This is why some of people doesnt be able to bare up the risk and the pressure when dealing with volatility market which it would be that resulting for them to hold
instead with active dealing which it isnt really that a bad idea to be done by someone.
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January 04, 2023, 11:33:00 PM
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when you are investing and holding your investments long term you always have the higher chance of creating good decision and scoring good profits out of it, trading in itself honestly only suited when the market is bullish so it have higher chance of increasing than decreasing, nowadays it seems trading isn't really good way in creating profits moreover the trend of alts in general are still massively bearish. as you said if big share of the money goes into holding i'm sure it gonna works, just hold until bullish comes.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Newbie traders shouldn't even start trading with real crypto. They should first master the demo and then when they feel confident enough should consider using 5% of their funds to test the water.
Therefore, 95% of their funds should go into holding.
One mistake they do is revenge trading and when they give in to this, they go beyond 5% funds and end up using up to 15% -20% resulting in terrible losses.

I think even using demo accounts it's gonna be little bit different in term of emotional control but I do agree any newbies out there should be trying through the demo features, it gives somewhat real impression of what trading and investing gonna feel like.

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January 05, 2023, 04:22:14 AM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Newbie traders shouldn't even start trading with real crypto. They should first master the demo and then when they feel confident enough should consider using 5% of their funds to test the water.
Therefore, 95% of their funds should go into holding.
One mistake they do is revenge trading and when they give in to this, they go beyond 5% funds and end up using up to 15% -20% resulting in terrible losses.


5% is too low unless you have a lot of capital that you want to invest in trading or holding. Also, the demo account was heavily debated, as most people said that if you use a demo account, you can't really feel the heat and adrenaline rush of trading, which is why others will say to deposit a small amount first to try to trade, and if you get comfortable, that's when you'll deposit a large amount. Though it is really best if you don't put all of your eggs in one basket, that is why it is better to cut it in half, like 60% for holding and 40% for trading.
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I prefer holding in this bearish season than to trade in the market, because there are many opportunity for those that will exercise patience with the current price not to sell than to hold and watch for the price to increase higher before they can sell to make a passive incomes. Since the bearish season took over long period in the market, showed that bullish will soon takeover crypto market for investors to experience long bullish in the community. I think, those that experienced losses last year 2022 will learn from their mistakes not to hurry to sell their coins than to be patience for the bull market to appear before he or she can supply to market to achieve huge amount of income.

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Good point to invest with money we are prepared to lose. But to be honest, I can hardly say anything about the percentage of the amount to be traded at a loss as you say. Maybe I'd rather say there's no percentage for that, why? because basically we don't want to experience losses even if only 1% of the amount of money we have.
We are in a situation where we have to take advantage of the opportunities that are in front of us because the current price is worth investing in. So do your best, and we'll meet our very desired price in the future.

To be able to earn something in trading, you need to have good discipline and clearly follow the rules (each may have its own list of rules). And it is very important to withdraw earnings (if any) every week, or every few weeks. If you do not do this, but only try to increase the deposit, then in the end it greatly increases the risk of losing everything that was earned and, accordingly, the deposit too. Hold is easier, we buy and hold on the wallet, until the price reaches the values we need.

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Good point to invest with money we are prepared to lose. But to be honest, I can hardly say anything about the percentage of the amount to be traded at a loss as you say. Maybe I'd rather say there's no percentage for that, why? because basically we don't want to experience losses even if only 1% of the amount of money we have.
We are in a situation where we have to take advantage of the opportunities that are in front of us because the current price is worth investing in. So do your best, and we'll meet our very desired price in the future.

To be able to earn something in trading, you need to have good discipline and clearly follow the rules (each may have its own list of rules). And it is very important to withdraw earnings (if any) every week, or every few weeks. If you do not do this, but only try to increase the deposit, then in the end it greatly increases the risk of losing everything that was earned and, accordingly, the deposit too. Hold is easier, we buy and hold on the wallet, until the price reaches the values we need.


It was called money management and playing it safe so that you would not lose all of your money in case you lost a trade. Though it is really good to withdraw your money weekly or biweekly, you still need to focus more on your strategy first since how could you withdraw if you couldn't win a trade? Also, the set of rules, or, let's say, confirmation (call it confirmation), is really the trigger to hit the trade. Most traders know this, since when they see three or more confirmations for a trade, they will trigger it.
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Good point to invest with money we are prepared to lose. But to be honest, I can hardly say anything about the percentage of the amount to be traded at a loss as you say. Maybe I'd rather say there's no percentage for that, why? because basically we don't want to experience losses even if only 1% of the amount of money we have.
We are in a situation where we have to take advantage of the opportunities that are in front of us because the current price is worth investing in. So do your best, and we'll meet our very desired price in the future.

To be able to earn something in trading, you need to have good discipline and clearly follow the rules (each may have its own list of rules). And it is very important to withdraw earnings (if any) every week, or every few weeks. If you do not do this, but only try to increase the deposit, then in the end it greatly increases the risk of losing everything that was earned and, accordingly, the deposit too. Hold is easier, we buy and hold on the wallet, until the price reaches the values we need.
Discipline by following the rules is important and sometimes people forget about it,
as much as possible we have to minimize the risk and that's why trading is not an easy thing,
holding it also requires patience and usually people just want to make a quick profit

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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Newbie traders shouldn't even start trading with real crypto. They should first master the demo and then when they feel confident enough should consider using 5% of their funds to test the water.
Therefore, 95% of their funds should go into holding.
One mistake they do is revenge trading and when they give in to this, they go beyond 5% funds and end up using up to 15% -20% resulting in terrible losses.


For a new trader, 20% is too much capital to start with, 5% is really a reasonable number but don't start with a demo account but start with a real account with 5% of that capital. A demo account will never give you real experience, when you start with a demo account, it can give you a good experience, but in the end, they are virtual money. And then, when you use it with a real account, your mentality will be completely different, and your experience will also be different, I will still call you new. Loss is inevitable when first trading, but what matters is what we get after those losses, that's what matters.



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January 05, 2023, 11:47:43 AM
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Yeah as the time is passing it's the only viable option for us. In fact it's the history repeating since 2009 year, if we look closely then patterns are repeating, prices are being cyclic and they are making similar moves all the time. If we apply proper logic then one can only think about hodling bitcoin and see our assets growing all the time. If we go for buy and sell on regular basis then we will achieve nothing but regular exchanges, may be use case of crypto over fiat and desired circulation. However, hodling can also benefit to create serious demand and short supplies. This in long term would be factor to hike the prices.
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There are perfect timing to hodl and that time is when bitcoin is doing some bad movement since bear market hit so bad, maybe by this time its better time to decide on when to take you positions then use this one for long term holding.

Bad timing to hold is doing it when bullish season is at the peak because you want more or think that there will be more pump to come since this one will make you a bag holder or even a huge loser since for sure correction times will happen anytime at that situation.

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If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

Trading is not bad if you're profitable and incurring loses (Minimal loses) in trading is normal because is part of trading and learning process mostly for newbies in trading. So success comes from failures and those experienced/profissonal (profitable traders) also lose trades but have learnt from thier trading mistakes to become what they are today.

Secondly, You should have a long term investment goal for Bitcoin (higher percentage of your funds investment funds should be in BTC). Always Take profits when there's opportunity.
 If you have the passion for trading and you're making profits good, but if not continue to try with small amount of money and try to learn why you lose,  maybe one day you could become a profitable trader as well.

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January 05, 2023, 12:16:03 PM
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There are perfect timing to hodl and that time is when bitcoin is doing some bad movement since bear market hit so bad, maybe by this time its better time to decide on when to take you positions then use this one for long term holding.
Buying right now is pretty good as Bitcoin's decline from the last ATH has been around -70% and this is certainly a pretty deep drop. If you're still not sure, then wait for the next decline (if the market doesn't show signs of being bullish).

Bad timing to hold is doing it when bullish season is at the peak because you want more or think that there will be more pump to come since this one will make you a bag holder or even a huge loser since for sure correction times will happen anytime at that situation.
When the bullish time occurs and the candle has shown the needle up, never buy because of FOMO, it will only make your losses increase and hold it long enough to recover from the previous price. but currently, there are no bullish signs yet. the market tends to stagnate and will probably experience a recovery in 2023. let's wait for what will happen next.
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January 05, 2023, 07:59:16 PM
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There are perfect timing to hodl and that time is when bitcoin is doing some bad movement since bear market hit so bad, maybe by this time its better time to decide on when to take you positions then use this one for long term holding.
Buying right now is pretty good as Bitcoin's decline from the last ATH has been around -70% and this is certainly a pretty deep drop. If you're still not sure, then wait for the next decline (if the market doesn't show signs of being bullish).

Bad timing to hold is doing it when bullish season is at the peak because you want more or think that there will be more pump to come since this one will make you a bag holder or even a huge loser since for sure correction times will happen anytime at that situation.
When the bullish time occurs and the candle has shown the needle up, never buy because of FOMO, it will only make your losses increase and hold it long enough to recover from the previous price. but currently, there are no bullish signs yet. the market tends to stagnate and will probably experience a recovery in 2023. let's wait for what will happen next.
The current price is indeed not a bad spot for you to buyback or make out some accumulation because in making up some comparison into those previous bear markets then it is really that significant
percentage drop which we could assume out that we might be already at the bottom or near on it which means that it isnt a bad spot for us to make such move.Although, there are
really just people who do decide to wait up further just because they are really that believing that there is still more drops to come, its not something that we could know ahead
but its up to someone whether they would take up the risk or not.

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January 05, 2023, 10:15:21 PM
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There are perfect timing to hodl and that time is when bitcoin is doing some bad movement since bear market hit so bad, maybe by this time its better time to decide on when to take you positions then use this one for long term holding.
Buying right now is pretty good as Bitcoin's decline from the last ATH has been around -70% and this is certainly a pretty deep drop. If you're still not sure, then wait for the next decline (if the market doesn't show signs of being bullish).

Bad timing to hold is doing it when bullish season is at the peak because you want more or think that there will be more pump to come since this one will make you a bag holder or even a huge loser since for sure correction times will happen anytime at that situation.
When the bullish time occurs and the candle has shown the needle up, never buy because of FOMO, it will only make your losses increase and hold it long enough to recover from the previous price. but currently, there are no bullish signs yet. the market tends to stagnate and will probably experience a recovery in 2023. let's wait for what will happen next.
The current price is indeed not a bad spot for you to buyback or make out some accumulation because in making up some comparison into those previous bear markets then it is really that significant
percentage drop which we could assume out that we might be already at the bottom or near on it which means that it isnt a bad spot for us to make such move.Although, there are
really just people who do decide to wait up further just because they are really that believing that there is still more drops to come, its not something that we could know ahead
but its up to someone whether they would take up the risk or not.

There are different perceptions and different assessment in each investor and traders' mindsets, you need to work on your own analysis
and make your decision according to how you anticipate the upcoming market.

No one can predict the market as accurate as it can be, more on speculation and basing in how they experienced the last market movement.

Either bull or bear, they are basing their investment with how they understand the market.
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January 05, 2023, 10:41:25 PM
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There are perfect timing to hodl and that time is when bitcoin is doing some bad movement since bear market hit so bad, maybe by this time its better time to decide on when to take you positions then use this one for long term holding.

Bad timing to hold is doing it when bullish season is at the peak because you want more or think that there will be more pump to come since this one will make you a bag holder or even a huge loser since for sure correction times will happen anytime at that situation.
I might agree with you when you say the best time for you to hodl is whn the market is undergoing undergoing some bad moves which means bearish as, the market is in the low, its not a best time to sell and you don't lose by not selling. Instead, you buy more to 8ncrease your crypto portfolio.
What I don't so much agree with is you selling selling when it's bearish. That's as well not the best decision to make given that, the market would continue to grow a later times. There are more and more bearish/bullish moves to come which means, you can stil profit from your hodlings towads future moves.

At best, you hodl what you can, keep buying yo increase your portfolio and sell only when you must and that doenst mean you have to empty your portfolio.

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If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

Trading is not bad if you're profiting and incurring loses (Minimal loses) in trading is normal and is part of learning process for newbies in trading, because success comes from failures and those experienced /profissonal (profitable traders) also lose trades but have learnt from thier trading mistakes to become what they are today.

Secondly, You should have a long term investment goal for Bitcoin (huge portion). Always Take profits when there's opportunity and also trade if you have the passion for trading if you're making profits or continue to try with small money and learn why you lose maybe one day you could become a profitable trader as well.
One thing that is often ignored by those that trade the markets is that even some of the best traders around the world still take a break from trading if they think the conditions they are facing are too adverse for them to make any kind of profits, and when we think about the market conditions we have been facing for more than a year it is not difficult to imagine those traders would probably avoid trading cryptocurrencies right now as it is simply too challenging to obtain any profits.
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If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

Trading is not bad if you're profiting and incurring loses (Minimal loses) in trading is normal and is part of learning process for newbies in trading, because success comes from failures and those experienced /profissonal (profitable traders) also lose trades but have learnt from thier trading mistakes to become what they are today.

Secondly, You should have a long term investment goal for Bitcoin (huge portion). Always Take profits when there's opportunity and also trade if you have the passion for trading if you're making profits or continue to try with small money and learn why you lose maybe one day you could become a profitable trader as well.
One thing that is often ignored by those that trade the markets is that even some of the best traders around the world still take a break from trading if they think the conditions they are facing are too adverse for them to make any kind of profits, and when we think about the market conditions we have been facing for more than a year it is not difficult to imagine those traders would probably avoid trading cryptocurrencies right now as it is simply too challenging to obtain any profits.

There is really that kind of mindset in which it is very greedy to enter the market without knowing its status, like if it was going sideways or if the market was in a downtrend, in which case you can still trade but the chance of losing is higher. I can't blame others as this was my thinking before; it was because of the greed of getting money, and it taught me a lot of lessons. So, if the current trend is down, I avoid focusing my attention on finding the best trade because it is time consuming; instead, I check the chart to see if there are any good trades to trigger; if not, I'll be relaxing on my couch.
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All traders, including seasoned pros, make these errors, for which they ultimately pay a price. The primary prototype that a trader should control is greed. Beginners and traders succumb to greed and overtrade, which leads to blunders. I am aware that keeping is occasionally preferable, which is why they always recommend trading within your means. If you go over budget and trade with your savings, you may be obliged to sell the coins at key moments when keeping them could have been a better choice. Act and make investments as such.
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Although, there are
really just people who do decide to wait up further just because they are really that believing that there is still more drops to come, its not something that we could know ahead
but its up to someone whether they would take up the risk or not.
Deciding to wait longer at a price that might be cheaper, that's each individual's decision. The main reference is how you do a market analysis and predict where the market will go next. When deciding to buy for the long term, wherever the specified purchase price will remain good as long as the target is achieved far from the current price.

The price of bitcoin which is still stable at $ 16,800 is a good price for now, we just need to be prepared for a bull market, or when the market is forced down again we also have reserve money to do DCA. The higher the risk, the higher the profit will also be.

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No one can predict the market as accurate as it can be, more on speculation and basing in how they experienced the last market movement.

Either bull or bear, they are basing their investment with how they understand the market.
Prediction is just a description that explains what future market conditions will be like, it depends on how to read the candles that are formed in a certain period of time. Predictions won't be 100% accurate, but they can be used as a reference to determine where the market will go next.

There was a lot of speculation going on and it was intentional to disrupt the market fundamentally. Bringing together the knowledge of technical analysis and Fundamentals will give a clear picture of where the crypto market is going.

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January 06, 2023, 10:21:58 AM
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If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.
Indeed. Well, it's understandable that many of us still prefer to trade for short term gain regardless of the profit. However, not everyone is successful to profit at this time that the market is not moving upward consistently and no major changes has been made due to the recent issues that happened (FTX and Luna). So I agree that it's better to just hold if you know trading is not good anymore for you to earn. This season is really ideal to fill our bags and hold long as long as you can.

Anyway, we have different decision when it comes to this because we know better what strategies could work for us to be a gainer.

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January 06, 2023, 11:52:57 AM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

I agree that holding is much better if you don't have enough skills in trading.

I'd say I use my funds 90% on holding while the remaining 10% is on futures. I only use enough funds that I can afford to lose while still learning, I just wanna take it in slow phase. Newbie traders are always in a hurry making huge profits overnight, that's why they always end up losing what they didn't expect to lose in the first place. The ending is they always chase their losses without any plan or knowledge that could guarantee their success.
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All traders, including seasoned pros, make these errors, for which they ultimately pay a price. The primary prototype that a trader should control is greed. Beginners and traders succumb to greed and overtrade, which leads to blunders. I am aware that keeping is occasionally preferable, which is why they always recommend trading within your means. If you go over budget and trade with your savings, you may be obliged to sell the coins at key moments when keeping them could have been a better choice. Act and make investments as such.
Greed is what makes most traders lose their capital even if they have good profits. For me, I return my capital in full and put 50% of the profits into trading, and this reduces the risk. Holding is the best option that makes us achieve huge gains in the long run, but we must not bet all of our capital in one currency and always follow technical analysis, charts, and currency news. and we must adhere to a specific plan and collect fifty percent of profits as soon as we obtain them, then move on to another trading process, and most importantly of all, we choose the trading platform carefully on which we will deposit and HODL our currencies on it.

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January 06, 2023, 06:33:22 PM
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For a new trader, 20% is too much capital to start with, 5% is really a reasonable number but don't start with a demo account but start with a real account with 5% of that capital. A demo account will never give you real experience, when you start with a demo account, it can give you a good experience, but in the end, they are virtual money. And then, when you use it with a real account, your mentality will be completely different, and your experience will also be different, I will still call you new. Loss is inevitable when first trading, but what matters is what we get after those losses, that's what matters.
I would say 10% could be better as well. I did that, when I first started I used 100% of my money on each trade, literally every trade was all-in for me and of course I learned how bad that is eventually and how I should do better. After that I started to use like 50% of it each trade, and then lower and lower. Now, I have 90% on long term holding, and 10% on trading but not using all 10% of that each trade neither, I use smaller portion.

So, if you look at my each trade, it's like 2-3% of my entire portfolio and I make like 0.2% or so profit from it, maybe less. This allows me to make mistakes and not get burned, and still learn to be a better trader, even after so many years
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All traders, including seasoned pros, make these errors, for which they ultimately pay a price. The primary prototype that a trader should control is greed. Beginners and traders succumb to greed and overtrade, which leads to blunders. I am aware that keeping is occasionally preferable, which is why they always recommend trading within your means. If you go over budget and trade with your savings, you may be obliged to sell the coins at key moments when keeping them could have been a better choice. Act and make investments as such.
Greed is what makes most traders lose their capital even if they have good profits. For me, I return my capital in full and put 50% of the profits into trading, and this reduces the risk. Holding is the best option that makes us achieve huge gains in the long run, but we must not bet all of our capital in one currency and always follow technical analysis, charts, and currency news. and we must adhere to a specific plan and collect fifty percent of profits as soon as we obtain them, then move on to another trading process, and most importantly of all, we choose the trading platform carefully on which we will deposit and HODL our currencies on it.
On the time that you are making out some profits then for sure you would really be thinking off on how you would really making it even more and this is something a certain investor or trader to do on which you
shouldnt really make yourself chasing off for more profits.

Always consider out that risk management which is something that is really that much needed most of the time.Dont overtrade and dont make out that kind of desperation on making out
trades just because you had made out some money on your first tries. Market doesnt always go along on what we are expecting and we should really keeping those things
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in the investment world there are several types of investors, there are people who want quick profits because they don't have time to wait for years and there are people who don't know how to day trade, or who don't have time to day trade so these people choose to do hodl , of course even in this matter of doing hodl the person who put a lot of money and wait for years may be the person who will make a profit

for example a person who has 100$ and does hodl for 3 years and has a profit of 300$, in my opinion I do not see that person having much advantage, but a person who takes 30,000$ and holds it for 3 years to obtain a profit of $90,000 for that person will be very advantageous and it will be worth it for him to have made the sacrifice of doing hodl for 3 years, summarizing Hodl and more advantages when you put a lot of money

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January 07, 2023, 07:51:32 AM
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If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

There's no need to continue in this current bitcoin price when all you do is keep losing money in the trades, If the trading especially for those using  scalping technique is ain't working out well for you it's rather potent to use such money for this accumulation period as all it takes is just patient believing that the bull period will eventually kick off...
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

That is a good advice in my opinion, when it comes to building up a crypto portfolio it makes a lot of sense to split our funds into different categories. HODL investing has been one of most profitable strategies when it comes to Bitcoins, that is why I would always recommend any new trader to leave at least some of his money in a long term account and don't trade it short term. It's like with your bank account, you leave some money in the savings account while you invest other parts into stocks and bonds. A 80/20 split or even 90/10 would be a good approach for any beginner. Like this you have at least some money to trade with and get experience. I still remember my first few trades I did in the stock market and how much money I used for bad trades. I didn't really lose a lot of money, but I had to hold some of my positions for more than a year for them to turn a profit. The more experience you have the higher the percentage of the money we use for active trading should be.
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All traders, including seasoned pros, make these errors, for which they ultimately pay a price. The primary prototype that a trader should control is greed. Beginners and traders succumb to greed and overtrade, which leads to blunders. I am aware that keeping is occasionally preferable, which is why they always recommend trading within your means. If you go over budget and trade with your savings, you may be obliged to sell the coins at key moments when keeping them could have been a better choice. Act and make investments as such.

This mostly applied to investing, a trader isn't supposed to hodl unless you're trading for a very long time. Trading naturally should do with you taking advantage of the price difference in the market and that means you can buy and sell your coins as many times as possible even with in the interval of a day. As a trader your major concern should be how you can profit from the market now and not in the future.

Future thinking are for holders and they shouldn't care about the current movement of the market as their strategy should always involved holding for the future. You can be both a trader and an investors as both are profitable when you understand what you're doing and doing it right.

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who have just joined and have plans to invest in crypto currency this year I really say that you are very lucky,
because holding crypto currency from this year until maybe 2025 is a very good thing,
considering according to the bullish cycle of crypto currency is once every 4 years and 2023 might be the start of this cycle journey.
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January 07, 2023, 06:20:53 PM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

I agree that holding is much better if you don't have enough skills in trading.

I'd say I use my funds 90% on holding while the remaining 10% is on futures. I only use enough funds that I can afford to lose while still learning, I just wanna take it in slow phase. Newbie traders are always in a hurry making huge profits overnight, that's why they always end up losing what they didn't expect to lose in the first place. The ending is they always chase their losses without any plan or knowledge that could guarantee their success.
In crypto-currencies, some tries to hold and some are willing to trade. Since trading takes less time, the returns are not very high, while holding takes more time, but there is a chance of getting good returns later. Moreover, holding is very useful in terms of risk. If you can hold in this current bearish market it will be very profitable. Some investors panic at a time when holding is needed. As a result those investors cannot hold. And when they decide to hold, it is considered a good time to sell. So I think an investor should be well aware of the importance of holding and should know it's proper time. If you lose in trading there is no way to get it back but holding asset prices can be multiple x even if the current price decreases.

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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Trading is a much much better way to make profit if you know how to trade, it's not even close, you could make 50x more trading than holding if you are a good trader, and that's just for one year, if you know how to trade and do it for a few years then we are talking about tons of difference and not even close. This means you should learn how to trade and how to be a good trader.

However, if you are not good at it, then it's not smart to make this type of decisions and just hold it. That's where holding becomes better because when you are hodling you are basically making bigger differences and better results since trading would be a terrible way if you don't know how to trade.

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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

 Op I believe that this is sound advise for those who are suffering significant losses during this bad market. For individuals who are not skilled enough in trading, it will be a fantastic time to hold some coins, especially Bitcoin, for the upcoming bull run. However, I continue to think that some traders make far more money than those who hold investments for like years or longer. but all depends the coin you are holding.

Since the market is currently in a bear market and difficult to predict, it will even be preferable for newbies to be accumulating Bitcoin rather than considering trying trading. As for me, I find that holding is preferable than short-term trading because trading requires strong research.

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January 08, 2023, 09:46:41 PM
 #114

Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

I agree that holding is much better if you don't have enough skills in trading.

I'd say I use my funds 90% on holding while the remaining 10% is on futures. I only use enough funds that I can afford to lose while still learning, I just wanna take it in slow phase. Newbie traders are always in a hurry making huge profits overnight, that's why they always end up losing what they didn't expect to lose in the first place. The ending is they always chase their losses without any plan or knowledge that could guarantee their success.
In crypto-currencies, some tries to hold and some are willing to trade. Since trading takes less time, the returns are not very high, while holding takes more time, but there is a chance of getting good returns later. Moreover, holding is very useful in terms of risk. If you can hold in this current bearish market it will be very profitable. Some investors panic at a time when holding is needed. As a result those investors cannot hold. And when they decide to hold, it is considered a good time to sell. So I think an investor should be well aware of the importance of holding and should know it's proper time. If you lose in trading there is no way to get it back but holding asset prices can be multiple x even if the current price decreases.
So it does really shows that it would really be mattering on someones goals or perspective on how they should really be gonna dealing off with this unpredictable market.There's no way that we could really be able

to tell or on how should other people do make out their trading or investment whether it would be traded up actively or just simply would be holding.We know that not all does have the patience when it comes to
holding for too long before they could see up some profits and also we know that its not that assured that we could make one in the future.

Hold if you do see that it is worthy to do so or trade it up if you dont have the patience in doing so, its up actually into your own choice.

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January 08, 2023, 10:24:02 PM
 #115

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Trading is a much much better way to make profit if you know how to trade, it's not even close, you could make 50x more trading than holding if you are a good trader, and that's just for one year, if you know how to trade and do it for a few years then we are talking about tons of difference and not even close. This means you should learn how to trade and how to be a good trader.

However, if you are not good at it, then it's not smart to make this type of decisions and just hold it. That's where holding becomes better because when you are hodling you are basically making bigger differences and better results since trading would be a terrible way if you don't know how to trade.

But in the situation that we keep on losing, it was an indication that trading is not the right place for us. It was an indication that we need to leave and holding seems to be the best option now. We have to accept that sometimes we fail at one area but it opens another opportunity on the other side. Let us say that holding is not really a profitable option during the bear season but I see the benefits of this during the bear season. Well, we can do trading again when the bull season comes.



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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Trading is a much much better way to make profit if you know how to trade, it's not even close, you could make 50x more trading than holding if you are a good trader, and that's just for one year, if you know how to trade and do it for a few years then we are talking about tons of difference and not even close. This means you should learn how to trade and how to be a good trader.

However, if you are not good at it, then it's not smart to make this type of decisions and just hold it. That's where holding becomes better because when you are hodling you are basically making bigger differences and better results since trading would be a terrible way if you don't know how to trade.

But in the situation that we keep on losing, it was an indication that trading is not the right place for us. It was an indication that we need to leave and holding seems to be the best option now. We have to accept that sometimes we fail at one area but it opens another opportunity on the other side. Let us say that holding is not really a profitable option during the bear season but I see the benefits of this during the bear season. Well, we can do trading again when the bull season comes.
Have you ever imagined to holding $1,000 and losing $600 then topping up back to $1,000 bit then hitting with the all time low to get lost 80% to $200 only ... that time indeed a stressful time , even if you use the money that you can afford to lose , that's how crazy crypto when you do the holding randomly.

You need to have a through analysis still to have your holding in the right path.

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January 09, 2023, 01:31:34 AM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Why not hold 100% for long term gains? If they are losing money it doesn't make much sense to continue insisting on this practice. Instead of losing 20% of their portfolio today, they should be profiting 20% more futurely, from long term tradings. I think someone who attempted day trade for a considerable length of time must feel regretful if he calculates how much he has already lost with bad trades. That represents money that could be put in good use if he had simply held for longer, until the market started pumping again. People venturing into daily trading must think carefully if it worths to have more headaches, spend more time to end losing money after all.

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January 09, 2023, 12:52:25 PM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Why not hold 100% for long term gains? If they are losing money it doesn't make much sense to continue insisting on this practice. Instead of losing 20% of their portfolio today, they should be profiting 20% more futurely, from long term tradings. I think someone who attempted day trade for a considerable length of time must feel regretful if he calculates how much he has already lost with bad trades. That represents money that could be put in good use if he had simply held for longer, until the market started pumping again. People venturing into daily trading must think carefully if it worths to have more headaches, spend more time to end losing money after all.

Better understanding and how they can handle the risk while playing with day trades, there's a need of good assessment if you think
that you are not getting any good outcome with your day trades.

For sure there are different views regarding to this matter and those who can manage day trade have their own opinions about your statement.

Whatever strategy, either hold or do day trade or scalping, the intention remain the same, gaining profits is what traders are targeting
and if they can achieve that then it's a good trade for them.
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Whatever strategy, either hold or do day trade or scalping, the intention remain the same, gaining profits is what traders are targeting
and if they can achieve that then it's a good trade for them.


I agree with this.While personally I have always and still am against daily trading because I consider it the same as gambling,something in which you have no control over,in gambling you have no control over the slot machines you play and in trading you have no control on external market factors doing the same as those slot machines,making you lose money in the long run.

What I love and call a profitable business usually is to hold the coins,or mine and hold the coins during time exactly like ours,a deep crypto winter and sell in the next bull run,it take patience to do this but it is I think a guaranteed trade that will make you profit in the long run.

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January 09, 2023, 06:43:58 PM
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Whatever strategy, either hold or do day trade or scalping, the intention remain the same, gaining profits is what traders are targeting
and if they can achieve that then it's a good trade for them.

Patience is highly practicable in this strategy, holding from the bear market to the bull season would turned out profitable only when one chooses the good projects to invest in. Scalping also brings profits on the table but it's very risky since it deal with massive timing and observation of the candle sticks. Scalping also leads to panic if one is still a newbie in the market, motion is not stable and very difficult to deal with, with the up and downs of the market, one can easily make the wrong decisions which will lead to either lose or liquidation of trading accounts.

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January 09, 2023, 07:04:15 PM
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What I love and call a profitable business usually is to hold the coins,or mine and hold the coins during time exactly like ours,a deep crypto winter and sell in the next bull run,it take patience to do this but it is I think a guaranteed trade that will make you profit in the long run.
Holding is profitable and it's proven not just by words but with actuality.

Patience for everybody will determine on how long you're willing to hold and even on the last bull run, we've been too patient and many haven't sold at the top of it because no one knows if that's the peak for bitcoin.

But, that only teaches us and even you're a solid holder still you need to have that point of time that you will have to sell because no matter what the peak goes as it's written that many will miss it.



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January 09, 2023, 09:32:31 PM
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What I love and call a profitable business usually is to hold the coins,or mine and hold the coins during time exactly like ours,a deep crypto winter and sell in the next bull run,it take patience to do this but it is I think a guaranteed trade that will make you profit in the long run.
Holding is profitable and it's proven not just by words but with actuality.

Patience for everybody will determine on how long you're willing to hold and even on the last bull run, we've been too patient and many haven't sold at the top of it because no one knows if that's the peak for bitcoin.

But, that only teaches us and even you're a solid holder still you need to have that point of time that you will have to sell because no matter what the peak goes as it's written that many will miss it.
Real experience would really make us really that learn and would be changing up our trading or investment decisions.We've seen that 69k peak but we didnt tend to sell out because we do believe and hope that the

price might shoot up on $100k but it didnt happen but instead the price had dip or bottomed out on 15k which is really that a too far off feel or gap with the ATH.If we do have just able to sell on that particular time
then we might be cherishing out those huge profits and able to make up some buybacks on the time that it would be making out some correction which i could say that it would be more worth rather than making
yourself that been holding for too long on just getting that small profits compared when you do make out those alternate decisions but well not all does have the courage on doing so.This is why
we do really see different decisions basing up on this manner, some could trade but most of the time we do hold up.

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January 10, 2023, 10:47:05 AM
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Holding is profitable and it's proven not just by words but with actuality.

Patience for everybody will determine on how long you're willing to hold and even on the last bull run, we've been too patient and many haven't sold at the top of it because no one knows if that's the peak for bitcoin.

But, that only teaches us and even you're a solid holder still you need to have that point of time that you will have to sell because no matter what the peak goes as it's written that many will miss it.
Real experience would really make us really that learn and would be changing up our trading or investment decisions.We've seen that 69k peak but we didnt tend to sell out because we do believe and hope that the

price might shoot up on $100k but it didnt happen but instead the price had dip or bottomed out on 15k which is really that a too far off feel or gap with the ATH.If we do have just able to sell on that particular time
then we might be cherishing out those huge profits and able to make up some buybacks on the time that it would be making out some correction which i could say that it would be more worth rather than making
yourself that been holding for too long on just getting that small profits compared when you do make out those alternate decisions but well not all does have the courage on doing so.This is why
we do really see different decisions basing up on this manner, some could trade but most of the time we do hold up.
Everyone is on that belief that bitcoin will reach $100k soon. It didn't happened last 2021 and that's okay, it's not the end of everything and we just have to be more patient this time.

We're probably half way there for waiting but the price is still a lot to go before it reaches that target. For some traders that have been doing their trades for a long time, it's not worth it to them.

But at least with holding, there's a choice for those who are not good in trading.



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January 10, 2023, 11:08:38 AM
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Whatever strategy, either hold or do day trade or scalping, the intention remain the same, gaining profits is what traders are targeting
and if they can achieve that then it's a good trade for them.

Patience is highly practicable in this strategy, holding from the bear market to the bull season would turned out profitable only when one chooses the good projects to invest in. Scalping also brings profits on the table but it's very risky since it deal with massive timing and observation of the candle sticks. Scalping also leads to panic if one is still a newbie in the market, motion is not stable and very difficult to deal with, with the up and downs of the market, one can easily make the wrong decisions which will lead to either lose or liquidation of trading accounts.
If we are not good at trading, I think holding is the best option to take.
In this bear season, we need to be careful in making decisions because this will have a huge impact not only it cause losses but also it will affect mentally. Well, we can say it was a huge challenge for us until when we hold but I was sure the bull season will come soon, and get bug rewards from patiently waiting for it. It is really need not to get affected by the FUDs.

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January 11, 2023, 08:18:04 PM
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Whatever strategy, either hold or do day trade or scalping, the intention remain the same, gaining profits is what traders are targeting
and if they can achieve that then it's a good trade for them.

Patience is highly practicable in this strategy, holding from the bear market to the bull season would turned out profitable only when one chooses the good projects to invest in. Scalping also brings profits on the table but it's very risky since it deal with massive timing and observation of the candle sticks. Scalping also leads to panic if one is still a newbie in the market, motion is not stable and very difficult to deal with, with the up and downs of the market, one can easily make the wrong decisions which will lead to either lose or liquidation of trading accounts.
If we are not good at trading, I think holding is the best option to take.
In this bear season, we need to be careful in making decisions because this will have a huge impact not only it cause losses but also it will affect mentally. Well, we can say it was a huge challenge for us until when we hold but I was sure the bull season will come soon, and get bug rewards from patiently waiting for it. It is really need not to get affected by the FUDs.
For me personally investing for a long time is the main thing, and day trading or even scalping is another way to make a profit. When I trade it is very different when I invest, I mean in this case analyzing the market will take much longer because we have to predict where the market is going in a relatively short time. And more indicators are used to be more precise in predicting the next price.
Indeed, the benefits you get will be felt on the same day, but it's worth the risk as you said. If we lack mentality then it is not recommended to do day trading like this.

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January 11, 2023, 08:46:58 PM
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Whatever strategy, either hold or do day trade or scalping, the intention remain the same, gaining profits is what traders are targeting
and if they can achieve that then it's a good trade for them.

Patience is highly practicable in this strategy, holding from the bear market to the bull season would turned out profitable only when one chooses the good projects to invest in. Scalping also brings profits on the table but it's very risky since it deal with massive timing and observation of the candle sticks. Scalping also leads to panic if one is still a newbie in the market, motion is not stable and very difficult to deal with, with the up and downs of the market, one can easily make the wrong decisions which will lead to either lose or liquidation of trading accounts.
If we are not good at trading, I think holding is the best option to take.
In this bear season, we need to be careful in making decisions because this will have a huge impact not only it cause losses but also it will affect mentally. Well, we can say it was a huge challenge for us until when we hold but I was sure the bull season will come soon, and get bug rewards from patiently waiting for it. It is really need not to get affected by the FUDs.
For me personally investing for a long time is the main thing, and day trading or even scalping is another way to make a profit. When I trade it is very different when I invest, I mean in this case analyzing the market will take much longer because we have to predict where the market is going in a relatively short time. And more indicators are used to be more precise in predicting the next price.
Indeed, the benefits you get will be felt on the same day, but it's worth the risk as you said. If we lack mentality then it is not recommended to do day trading like this.
Its a personal choice on what you would really be dealing with since not all are really that good when it comes to scalping or short trade which they would rather decide to hold than to take risk on something that they arent really be able to be good at or something that they could handle it out and this is why people would decide that they will really just hold instead.Of course holding wont really be that simple as well specially
if you do able to see this market which does move on a random or no path manner which it would leave you some questions in mind on how these things could happen.
You do blink nor sleep you would be potentially missing out some price actions.

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January 12, 2023, 09:39:44 AM
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Its a personal choice on what you would really be dealing with since not all are really that good when it comes to scalping or short trade which they would rather decide to hold than to take risk on something that they arent really be able to be good at or something that they could handle it out and this is why people would decide that they will really just hold instead.Of course holding wont really be that simple as well specially
if you do able to see this market which does move on a random or no path manner which it would leave you some questions in mind on how these things could happen.
You do blink nor sleep you would be potentially missing out some price actions.
Learning or doing a research is free. If only we did that before we start investing then we won't wonder anymore on why the price moves. It may be true that the price can move in a random fashion. That's because cryptos are unregulated or decentralized but I think most of the times, the price is influenced by other factors like the news, economic conditions, our own actions, etc...

Price doesn't change that quick so you don't miss them when you blink. Sleeping can take a long time and within these times, the price may experience a change but it doesn't mean that we shouldn't be sleeping anymore. That's wrong. Health is still wealth and besides, the are there tools out there which we can use to auto sell or buy, when we are not monitoring the market.

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January 12, 2023, 09:59:38 AM
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Patience is highly practicable in this strategy, holding from the bear market to the bull season would turned out profitable only when one chooses the good projects to invest in.

You could also say luck is needed more than patience when it come to investing in altcoins. Holding them doesn't guarantee you will be success as you will never know which one is going to survive the bear market. But when you're lucky you could guess the  next coin to rise. 2023 has come with AI making the noise, nobody who has predicated that but those who are lucky to buy AI coins are now making profits.

Patience is needed for holding as without it you'll sell early and so is luck, when this two work together you'll be receiving profits from any investment that you get into because they'll do better than others but this isn't guarantee only just assumptions.

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January 12, 2023, 11:35:25 AM
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Op imagine a person had savings of 100$ and at that time BTC is on 42K and he invested all in 42K I know his first mistake is he got all in on 42k he should buy partially from time to time 25% each time then results might be different but now he already did this mistake what else you expect from him rather then holding on the 17k and hoping for the at least no profit no loss situation but I think if he is bearing it he should wait a bit more he will be in profit i am damn sure and this situation is mine but +points are i did multiple buyings on 35 then 28 and now on 17.

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January 12, 2023, 11:53:16 AM
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Patience is highly practicable in this strategy, holding from the bear market to the bull season would turned out profitable only when one chooses the good projects to invest in.
Patience is needed for holding as without it you'll sell early and so is luck, when this two work together you'll be receiving profits from any investment that you get into because they'll do better than others but this isn't guarantee only just assumptions.

I'm not sure if luck is involved because luck does not influence the value of the coin only your pure knowledge and how can you control your emotions. It really needs patience, which most of the newbies don't have; they tend to panic sell or be very greedy to sell. When we are talking about bitcoin, it is way safer than those other coins, as you've noticed that some of them won't last 2 years, but bitcoin stands still and the price keeps going up. What's best is to hold the coin that is most promising in the long run, or just hold bitcoin.
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I agree with this.While personally I have always and still am against daily trading because I consider it the same as gambling,something in which you have no control over,in gambling you have no control over the slot machines you play and in trading you have no control on external market factors doing the same as those slot machines,making you lose money in the long run.

Day trading is not like gambling, there is a difference, because in gambling you can only rely on your luck, and trading requires knowledge and skills, experience and discipline will be decisive in this matter. But day trading is very difficult, trading is not easy at all, but day trading is even more difficult.

What I love and call a profitable business usually is to hold the coins,or mine and hold the coins during time exactly like ours,a deep crypto winter and sell in the next bull run,it take patience to do this but it is I think a guaranteed trade that will make you profit in the long run.
Mining can probably be called a business, because you buy equipment, invest with the hope of making a profit in order to return your investment and earn income. This is also not a very easy task, which requires certain knowledge and the ability to find a good place and cheap electricity, so yes, this is a real business.

And buying coins for the long term is already an investment, you just buy and wait for the price of your coins to rise, this is probably the easiest way out of the above, but it also requires a lot of patience and understanding of the market in order to know when to buy and when to sell.
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January 12, 2023, 07:41:38 PM
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For me personally investing for a long time is the main thing, and day trading or even scalping is another way to make a profit. When I trade it is very different when I invest, I mean in this case analyzing the market will take much longer because we have to predict where the market is going in a relatively short time. And more indicators are used to be more precise in predicting the next price.
Indeed, the benefits you get will be felt on the same day, but it's worth the risk as you said. If we lack mentality then it is not recommended to do day trading like this.
Its a personal choice on what you would really be dealing with since not all are really that good when it comes to scalping or short trade which they would rather decide to hold than to take risk on something that they arent really be able to be good at or something that they could handle it out and this is why people would decide that they will really just hold instead.Of course holding wont really be that simple as well specially
if you do able to see this market which does move on a random or no path manner which it would leave you some questions in mind on how these things could happen.
You do blink nor sleep you would be potentially missing out some price actions.
I want to think positively for people who are always day trading because of course they already know that this is trading and there needs to be capital both in terms of finance and in terms of knowledge because only stupid people who are involved in day trading do not have knowledge or do not study first formerly.
As for investing for the long term, I think some of us must have experienced this condition before, at least once. and of course they can look in the mirror from before, no matter how tough the conditions are, in the end we're back to the point where it's nice and green.

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January 12, 2023, 09:50:48 PM
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For me personally investing for a long time is the main thing, and day trading or even scalping is another way to make a profit. When I trade it is very different when I invest, I mean in this case analyzing the market will take much longer because we have to predict where the market is going in a relatively short time. And more indicators are used to be more precise in predicting the next price.
Indeed, the benefits you get will be felt on the same day, but it's worth the risk as you said. If we lack mentality then it is not recommended to do day trading like this.
Its a personal choice on what you would really be dealing with since not all are really that good when it comes to scalping or short trade which they would rather decide to hold than to take risk on something that they arent really be able to be good at or something that they could handle it out and this is why people would decide that they will really just hold instead.Of course holding wont really be that simple as well specially
if you do able to see this market which does move on a random or no path manner which it would leave you some questions in mind on how these things could happen.
You do blink nor sleep you would be potentially missing out some price actions.
I want to think positively for people who are always day trading because of course they already know that this is trading and there needs to be capital both in terms of finance and in terms of knowledge because only stupid people who are involved in day trading do not have knowledge or do not study first formerly.
As for investing for the long term, I think some of us must have experienced this condition before, at least once. and of course they can look in the mirror from before, no matter how tough the conditions are, in the end we're back to the point where it's nice and green.
We cant really be look like this forever where everything is red or moving sideways or a condition which the price is really somewhat that stagnant.Going back into this present time and period
where the market do make out some green movement even though it is really just on that small percentage increase but at least this do really shows that to those who had taken up some risk
on getting some coins on cheap times are really making some money now.Even though it is really just that small but still considerable basing up on the risk that you had put it in.
Hold or actively been engaging then it would really be depending into your preference as a trader/investor.

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As long as we can have a long-term vision of the market, I would say that it is best to hodl, and buy right now to save and wait as long as necessary, that is something that we must be clear about, that is, now if the person or investor You really want to enter the market and make operations is something else, we could talk about many ways that they have to operate and be market speculators, but you can do both, both operate and invest, and I think that the investment path is pro now, It is the fastest, most intelligent path and the one that many choose to make a difference, but very few are the ones who are patient.

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As long as we can have a long-term vision of the market, I would say that it is best to hodl, and buy right now to save and wait as long as necessary, that is something that we must be clear about, that is, now if the person or investor You really want to enter the market and make operations is something else, we could talk about many ways that they have to operate and be market speculators, but you can do both, both operate and invest, and I think that the investment path is pro now, It is the fastest, most intelligent path and the one that many choose to make a difference, but very few are the ones who are patient.
For people who invest in Bitcoin or altcoins for the long term, it is surely better to keep their coins. We are heading the bullish season in 2024-2025, so why not to be patient to wait for? Selling now isn't a wise decision, the prices just start to increase, let them raise more. I am sure everyone who sell their coins before 2024-2025, will regret it since there is a possibility of a huge increase in 2024-2025. Bullrun is always a special moment to take maximum profits.



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Better to invest in the current market and hold.  Because right now the market is down, it is slowly turning into an uptrend. At this time, most investors have bought and held the coin with their target for 2024 when the market will once again grow at a bullish pace. Right now it is not possible to make that much profit by trending so you have to hold and don't lose patience.  It is wise to invest and hold Bitcoins right now and expect good profits in the future.

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Buying and holding any currency for a long time is really a matter of patience. Those who have exemplified patience by investing in crypto-currencies have largely profited by holding onto cryptocurrencies.But holding is the safest Because if a coin suffers a temporary loss after purchase, but later it is seen that the price of that coin has increased as a result of holding for a long time. So I think buying and holding any coin is best.

I am also a holder, so I will agree with you that holding is a better solution than short term trading. But I want to tell you that not holding any coin can be profitable. If the coin you hold is not bitcoin but altcoin, then I'm not sure holding will be profitable for you. Altcoins are very risky, many altcoins will die or never recover when we hold them for long. So long-term holding is good, but more important is which coin to hold. My long term investment recommendation is only bitcoin, say no altcoins.

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Buying and holding any currency for a long time is really a matter of patience. Those who have exemplified patience by investing in crypto-currencies have largely profited by holding onto cryptocurrencies.But holding is the safest Because if a coin suffers a temporary loss after purchase, but later it is seen that the price of that coin has increased as a result of holding for a long time. So I think buying and holding any coin is best.

I am also a holder, so I will agree with you that holding is a better solution than short term trading. But I want to tell you that not holding any coin can be profitable. If the coin you hold is not bitcoin but altcoin, then I'm not sure holding will be profitable for you. Altcoins are very risky, many altcoins will die or never recover when we hold them for long. So long-term holding is good, but more important is which coin to hold. My long term investment recommendation is only bitcoin, say no altcoins.

Pick those top altcoins if you are really want to hold altcoins but if not then the bitcoins is the top choice. I prefer bitcoin for long term holding and i think most of us , only few of my friends holds altcoins such as ETH but they also have bitcoin since ETH is also promising but again no one I've every known that has his/her investment are in altcoins. Bitcoin has been proven that in the long run you'll get profit that is why most of us wants to hold , the problem with holding is if you cant control your emotion then it will result to selling it at low price
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I am also a holder, so I will agree with you that holding is a better solution than short term trading. But I want to tell you that not holding any coin can be profitable. If the coin you hold is not bitcoin but altcoin, then I'm not sure holding will be profitable for you. Altcoins are very risky, many altcoins will die or never recover when we hold them for long. So long-term holding is good, but more important is which coin to hold. My long term investment recommendation is only bitcoin, say no altcoins.
Holder is the winner but not always about this motivation true depending which one altcoin for holing, I faced bad experience when holding coin receiving from airdrop and price drop drastically. Most import about kinds of altcoin holding if want to earn profit, some time many holder choose wrong altcoin project without having good planning schedule for long time and their coins price going dump drastically.

I am holder but keep selective about which one coins have to hold, I don't want make the same mistake by holding shit coins and delisting from exchange market later. Long term holding is not problem, keep depending about your coins assets for holding is potential or not and looking with team project, roadmap and actually how many partner having.

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I am also a holder, so I will agree with you that holding is a better solution than short term trading. But I want to tell you that not holding any coin can be profitable. If the coin you hold is not bitcoin but altcoin, then I'm not sure holding will be profitable for you. Altcoins are very risky, many altcoins will die or never recover when we hold them for long. So long-term holding is good, but more important is which coin to hold. My long term investment recommendation is only bitcoin, say no altcoins.
This simple rule can save the holder from many problems in the future, in fact, it can save one main problem, from losing money. It's true, altcoins may not return to their previous values, may not reach their ATH, they can be delisted from exchanges, it can be scam.

All this creates additional risks that we can get rid of if we invest in bitcoin. It would seem that it is so easy to understand, there is nothing complicated about it, but altcoins are pumped so often, it is such a temptation to buy one of them and hit the jackpot, right?  Grin

But do not give in to this temptation, the result will almost always be the same.
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Whatever trading any one wants to engage himself with should be very careful on the amount they wants to trade with because I believe too well that trading is likely to be gambling, any amount they have lose while trading can't never be recovered so I am on the Opinion that only 20 percent of their capital should be used to trade and 80 percent should be reserved to buy and hold some good amount of bitcoin or any another reputable coin out there.
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Whatever trading any one wants to engage himself with should be very careful on the amount they wants to trade with because I believe too well that trading is likely to be gambling, any amount they have lose while trading can't never be recovered so I am on the Opinion that only 20 percent of their capital should be used to trade and 80 percent should be reserved to buy and hold some good amount of bitcoin or any another reputable coin out there.
That's one of concept i can't agree with people kind of comparison with trading and gamblling. Their is a huge difference between gambling and trading. Gamblling have to do with prediction or assumptions because it's doesn't a particular skill you can learn that will make you to wining or to losing, so it's totally obvious that gambling have to do with risk measure, while trading you most undersgoes a proper training and also master the risk difference before you can make huge profit. So trading have a skill we have to learn and understand the steps before making profit as i portray before now .

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Better to invest in the current market and hold.  Because right now the market is down, it is slowly turning into an uptrend. At this time, most investors have bought and held the coin with their target for 2024 when the market will once again grow at a bullish pace. Right now it is not possible to make that much profit by trending so you have to hold and don't lose patience.  It is wise to invest and hold Bitcoins right now and expect good profits in the future.
It's a good decision to hold bitcoins for the exact coins to fall in price but the verity is that everything depends on the glass you look through. Holding onto bitcoin like any other system, can be a fantastic way to make a profit. But after every stumble in recent times the request will tend to recover fairly snappily.

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Whatever trading any one wants to engage himself with should be very careful on the amount they wants to trade with because I believe too well that trading is likely to be gambling, any amount they have lose while trading can't never be recovered so I am on the Opinion that only 20 percent of their capital should be used to trade and 80 percent should be reserved to buy and hold some good amount of bitcoin or any another reputable coin out there.
That's one of concept i can't agree with people kind of comparison with trading and gamblling. Their is a huge difference between gambling and trading. Gamblling have to do with prediction or assumptions because it's doesn't a particular skill you can learn that will make you to wining or to losing, so it's totally obvious that gambling have to do with risk measure, while trading you most undersgoes a proper training and also master the risk difference before you can make huge profit. So trading have a skill we have to learn and understand the steps before making profit as i portray before now .
Yes, I agree with you that between trading and gambling is clearly different,
in trading we need to have good preparation in knowledge, skills, and others,
whereas in gambling we can make predictions without clear benchmarks.

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January 16, 2023, 12:02:12 PM
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Buying and holding any currency for a long time is really a matter of patience. Those who have exemplified patience by investing in crypto-currencies have largely profited by holding onto cryptocurrencies.But holding is the safest Because if a coin suffers a temporary loss after purchase, but later it is seen that the price of that coin has increased as a result of holding for a long time. So I think buying and holding any coin is best.

I am also a holder, so I will agree with you that holding is a better solution than short term trading. But I want to tell you that not holding any coin can be profitable. If the coin you hold is not bitcoin but altcoin, then I'm not sure holding will be profitable for you. Altcoins are very risky, many altcoins will die or never recover when we hold them for long. So long-term holding is good, but more important is which coin to hold. My long term investment recommendation is only bitcoin, say no altcoins.

Pick those top altcoins if you are really want to hold altcoins but if not then the bitcoins is the top choice. I prefer bitcoin for long term holding and i think most of us , only few of my friends holds altcoins such as ETH but they also have bitcoin since ETH is also promising but again no one I've every known that has his/her investment are in altcoins. Bitcoin has been proven that in the long run you'll get profit that is why most of us wants to hold , the problem with holding is if you cant control your emotion then it will result to selling it at low price

Currently, I don't want to invest in altcoins, but if I had to choose, I would select ETH over top altcoins. I will ignore Luna and FTT, they are also top altcoins, but they are dead, but have you seen Solana? It is a top altcoin. Sol is considered a phenomenon in the 2021 bull season, but currently, those who have held it I believe they are losing heavily and certainly will not have a chance to rise again. Focus on bitcoin and maybe add ETH, and stay away from altcoins including topcoin.

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January 16, 2023, 03:40:54 PM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Maybe there is a point, if you look at the current crypto market there has been little change in terms of movement, but for me 50/50 is a good goal to do, either trade and hold, but your idea is also not bad for beginners 20/80, where if they don't understand properly they will lose.

Especially if you are a beginner in futures trading and money margin is risky, it's different if spot trading might not be too dangerous, but whatever type of trading when the crypto market situation in the past few days is good enough to achieve good results, but all of that cannot be separated from the trading knowledge they have.

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Whatever trading any one wants to engage himself with should be very careful on the amount they wants to trade with because I believe too well that trading is likely to be gambling, any amount they have lose while trading can't never be recovered so I am on the Opinion that only 20 percent of their capital should be used to trade and 80 percent should be reserved to buy and hold some good amount of bitcoin or any another reputable coin out there.
That's one of concept i can't agree with people kind of comparison with trading and gamblling. Their is a huge difference between gambling and trading. Gamblling have to do with prediction or assumptions because it's doesn't a particular skill you can learn that will make you to wining or to losing, so it's totally obvious that gambling have to do with risk measure, while trading you most undersgoes a proper training and also master the risk difference before you can make huge profit. So trading have a skill we have to learn and understand the steps before making profit as i portray before now .
Yes, I agree with you that between trading and gambling is clearly different,
in trading we need to have good preparation in knowledge, skills, and others,
whereas in gambling we can make predictions without clear benchmarks.

Gambling you need also skills knowledge and strategy the difference on this is that the luck you are carrying because in gambling mostly the chance of your winning is small unlike in trading as long as you have knowledge to it and read news that can impact on it then it has a possibility that you will win. The example of trading in gambling style is putting a trade and hoping for luck to struck you lets say you are lucky for now but for sure in the long run you'll be losing a lot.
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January 17, 2023, 04:34:12 AM
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Whatever trading any one wants to engage himself with should be very careful on the amount they wants to trade with because I believe too well that trading is likely to be gambling, any amount they have lose while trading can't never be recovered so I am on the Opinion that only 20 percent of their capital should be used to trade and 80 percent should be reserved to buy and hold some good amount of bitcoin or any another reputable coin out there.
Holding is always safer,and better in any way you look at it.It has less risk involved.When I started Bitcoin, i thought the whole thing about it was trading,but when I lose three times,I had to think of other ways of keeping it and avoiding lose,untill I discovered that you can also hold coin for future use,and ever since then,holding has being what I concentrate on because it has less risk,and it is also safer.
But before holding,it is good to look at the project critically,whether it has any chance of becoming rich in the nearest future,because it can be so annoying when a project becomes dormant.
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Whatever trading any one wants to engage himself with should be very careful on the amount they wants to trade with because I believe too well that trading is likely to be gambling, any amount they have lose while trading can't never be recovered so I am on the Opinion that only 20 percent of their capital should be used to trade and 80 percent should be reserved to buy and hold some good amount of bitcoin or any another reputable coin out there.
Holding is always safer,and better in any way you look at it.It has less risk involved.When I started Bitcoin, i thought the whole thing about it was trading,but when I lose three times,I had to think of other ways of keeping it and avoiding lose,untill I discovered that you can also hold coin for future use,and ever since then,holding has being what I concentrate on because it has less risk,and it is also safer.
But before holding,it is good to look at the project critically,whether it has any chance of becoming rich in the nearest future,because it can be so annoying when a project becomes dormant.
Holding is somewhat of a sacrifice and patience but after all, it gives us benefits and huge rewards. But guess what, it is really hard for all of us to do this. And this is because we usually get affected by the FUDs driving our minds to think negatively as well then decided to sell instead of holding. If we know ourselves that we can do it (holding), investing during the bear season is a good starting point but if we can't, this will only give us losses in the end.
I would say that Holding could be better at a specific time but not always.

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Holding is somewhat of a sacrifice and patience but after all, it gives us benefits and huge rewards. But guess what, it is really hard for all of us to do this. And this is because we usually get affected by the FUDs driving our minds to think negatively as well then decided to sell instead of holding. If we know ourselves that we can do it (holding), investing during the bear season is a good starting point but if we can't, this will only give us losses in the end.
I would say that Holding could be better at a specific time but not always.
The main part of the portfolio should be on hold, but if you have good trading results, then why not trade part of your deposit? If it brings good, more or less stable results in the long run, and you see the point in this, then you can do it. There are those who just like trading, it’s boring to sit and wait while their coins grow in price, they want to do something at this time, trading for them is just an opportunity to earn a few more coins.

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January 17, 2023, 05:18:34 PM
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Holding is somewhat of a sacrifice and patience but after all, it gives us benefits and huge rewards. But guess what, it is really hard for all of us to do this. And this is because we usually get affected by the FUDs driving our minds to think negatively as well then decided to sell instead of holding. If we know ourselves that we can do it (holding), investing during the bear season is a good starting point but if we can't, this will only give us losses in the end.
I would say that Holding could be better at a specific time but not always.
The main part of the portfolio should be on hold, but if you have good trading results, then why not trade part of your deposit? If it brings good, more or less stable results in the long run, and you see the point in this, then you can do it. There are those who just like trading, it’s boring to sit and wait while their coins grow in price, they want to do something at this time, trading for them is just an opportunity to earn a few more coins.

I don't see any boring part of seeing your money grow. without having any effort like sitting? People that I've known want to have passive income like business and they are working hard so sitting on the couch and seeing your bitcoin holdings grow overtime is good. But it takes time unlike trading when you can win a certain amount on that day or week unlike holding takes years before you can see that you gain profit. but again it depends on the person since my self I prefer both so I do allocate money to both.
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Holding is somewhat of a sacrifice and patience but after all, it gives us benefits and huge rewards. But guess what, it is really hard for all of us to do this. And this is because we usually get affected by the FUDs driving our minds to think negatively as well then decided to sell instead of holding. If we know ourselves that we can do it (holding), investing during the bear season is a good starting point but if we can't, this will only give us losses in the end.
I would say that Holding could be better at a specific time but not always.
If you let FUDs drive your minds into thinking that it's going to be worse, then you shouldn't trade or you should learn how to silence those thoughts. It's obvious that we are talking about a situation where it's going to hurt everyone when it's all said and done, which we should be avoiding as much as possible.

I know that people will have emotions, you can't stop having emotions but you could definitely control what you do with those emotions. So, if you fear that it's going to go down, do not try to stop fearing it, just keep on holding even when you fear it will go down. When you are capable of doing something like that, it would definitely work out better for you.

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January 17, 2023, 09:56:01 PM
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Holding is somewhat of a sacrifice and patience but after all, it gives us benefits and huge rewards. But guess what, it is really hard for all of us to do this. And this is because we usually get affected by the FUDs driving our minds to think negatively as well then decided to sell instead of holding. If we know ourselves that we can do it (holding), investing during the bear season is a good starting point but if we can't, this will only give us losses in the end.
I would say that Holding could be better at a specific time but not always.
If you let FUDs drive your minds into thinking that it's going to be worse, then you shouldn't trade or you should learn how to silence those thoughts. It's obvious that we are talking about a situation where it's going to hurt everyone when it's all said and done, which we should be avoiding as much as possible.

I know that people will have emotions, you can't stop having emotions but you could definitely control what you do with those emotions. So, if you fear that it's going to go down, do not try to stop fearing it, just keep on holding even when you fear it will go down. When you are capable of doing something like that, it would definitely work out better for you.
Having sufficient experience and knowledge would really be putting you into a state where you are already that numb or emotionless when it comes to probable market conditions that you might faced ahead  which is something a very common approach if you are really that into this scenario.

If you do compare out into those people who had just recently deal off with this market or investment then they would really be that impulsive when it comes to that kind of approach
on which it would really be that very common. Holding could be better? If you dont know on what to do then this would be the best thing to be done.

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January 17, 2023, 10:41:31 PM
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We should know that we have categories of holding our coins, sometimes some doesn't know  their objectives or motives of holding a coin. Specifically holding a coin is quite right, but it depends on your target of holding a coin which is the major thing in the aspect of holding a coin. it's very encouraging to hold a coin when the price is absolutely low and wait for the time the bullrun will come. The essence of holding a coin and especially a coin that have a potentialities or potential is because of profit making, so in that aspect it's good to hold a coin with a target.

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I don't see any boring part of seeing your money grow. without having any effort like sitting? People that I've known want to have passive income like business and they are working hard so sitting on the couch and seeing your bitcoin holdings grow overtime is good. But it takes time unlike trading when you can win a certain amount on that day or week unlike holding takes years before you can see that you gain profit. but again it depends on the person since my self I prefer both so I do allocate money to both.
Most of the investors haven't come into cryptocurrency see it for a space to come and make money then leave. That's just it, you come in, accumulate as you want and walk away. Only to come back when ever your ready to accumulate some more and leave.

Well, there are sides to this even. Given that, what is given is taken from someone or some place else. Its why we've got Aak and Bid in our orders. Depending on the market situation, one might make profit from being in either position  from time to time.

Trading and hodling offers different advantages or securities.
In trading, you get to operate on a high level of risk to reward ratio. You find yourself putting out more which could always take either ways in either profit or lose bit, this occurs more frequently and so, you've got some real chance of doubling or been robbed of your portfolio in the shortest possible time.
When it's got to do with hodling, the dynamics to doubling comes with the time you put in and even might not be commensurate with the wait time in years. One thing remains for sure and that is, profit but, its coin specific though. Bitcoin remains the most recommended for hoding if you may. DYOR.

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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

That depends on the level of expertise and the market analysis skills of such individual, because trading can be more profitable than holding, if you handle your portfolio very well. Some newbies have skills and enough knowledge to sustain their trading journey, but mostly are not.
So, it is obvious that holding will be the best advice we can give to those people who are constantly lossing due to bad trading decisions.
Holding is for everyone I guess, as long as you're patient and doesn't get easily affected by bearish market.

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I don't see any boring part of seeing your money grow. without having any effort like sitting? People that I've known want to have passive income like business and they are working hard so sitting on the couch and seeing your bitcoin holdings grow overtime is good. But it takes time unlike trading when you can win a certain amount on that day or week unlike holding takes years before you can see that you gain profit. but again it depends on the person since my self I prefer both so I do allocate money to both.
Most of the investors haven't come into cryptocurrency see it for a space to come and make money then leave. That's just it, you come in, accumulate as you want and walk away. Only to come back when ever your ready to accumulate some more and leave.

Well, there are sides to this even. Given that, what is given is taken from someone or some place else. Its why we've got Aak and Bid in our orders. Depending on the market situation, one might make profit from being in either position  from time to time.

Trading and hodling offers different advantages or securities.
In trading, you get to operate on a high level of risk to reward ratio. You find yourself putting out more which could always take either ways in either profit or lose bit, this occurs more frequently and so, you've got some real chance of doubling or been robbed of your portfolio in the shortest possible time.
When it's got to do with hodling, the dynamics to doubling comes with the time you put in and even might not be commensurate with the wait time in years. One thing remains for sure and that is, profit but, its coin specific though. Bitcoin remains the most recommended for hoding if you may. DYOR.

If you win a trade and earn a profit for sure there are trader around the world that lost it. That is really the life in trading if you win someone should lose if you lose someone should win it is the cycle and it never breaks that is why it is only rare who can earn a lot of profit in trading that is why others tend to walkway once the get enough profit for the day or for the month. On the other hand, holding is also great as long as you can control your emotion and less effort but again having control of your emotions are difficult so you should be prepared.
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January 18, 2023, 07:41:16 AM
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I don't see any boring part of seeing your money grow. without having any effort like sitting? People that I've known want to have passive income like business and they are working hard so sitting on the couch and seeing your bitcoin holdings grow overtime is good. But it takes time unlike trading when you can win a certain amount on that day or week unlike holding takes years before you can see that you gain profit. but again it depends on the person since my self I prefer both so I do allocate money to both.
Most of the investors haven't come into cryptocurrency see it for a space to come and make money then leave. That's just it, you come in, accumulate as you want and walk away. Only to come back when ever your ready to accumulate some more and leave.

Well, there are sides to this even. Given that, what is given is taken from someone or some place else. Its why we've got Aak and Bid in our orders. Depending on the market situation, one might make profit from being in either position  from time to time.

Trading and hodling offers different advantages or securities.
In trading, you get to operate on a high level of risk to reward ratio. You find yourself putting out more which could always take either ways in either profit or lose bit, this occurs more frequently and so, you've got some real chance of doubling or been robbed of your portfolio in the shortest possible time.
When it's got to do with hodling, the dynamics to doubling comes with the time you put in and even might not be commensurate with the wait time in years. One thing remains for sure and that is, profit but, its coin specific though. Bitcoin remains the most recommended for hoding if you may. DYOR.

If you win a trade and earn a profit for sure there are trader around the world that lost it. That is really the life in trading if you win someone should lose if you lose someone should win it is the cycle and it never breaks that is why it is only rare who can earn a lot of profit in trading that is why others tend to walkway once the get enough profit for the day or for the month. On the other hand, holding is also great as long as you can control your emotion and less effort but again having control of your emotions are difficult so you should be prepared.
That's how trading is that we can't keep making profits because there will be times when we lose,
trading is also not that easy because it requires preparation,
in holding self-control or controlling emotions is so important and indeed it is difficult to practice.
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I don't see any boring part of seeing your money grow. without having any effort like sitting? People that I've known want to have passive income like business and they are working hard so sitting on the couch and seeing your bitcoin holdings grow overtime is good. But it takes time unlike trading when you can win a certain amount on that day or week unlike holding takes years before you can see that you gain profit. but again it depends on the person since my self I prefer both so I do allocate money to both.
Most of the investors haven't come into cryptocurrency see it for a space to come and make money then leave. That's just it, you come in, accumulate as you want and walk away. Only to come back when ever your ready to accumulate some more and leave.

Well, there are sides to this even. Given that, what is given is taken from someone or some place else. Its why we've got Aak and Bid in our orders. Depending on the market situation, one might make profit from being in either position  from time to time.

Trading and hodling offers different advantages or securities.
In trading, you get to operate on a high level of risk to reward ratio. You find yourself putting out more which could always take either ways in either profit or lose bit, this occurs more frequently and so, you've got some real chance of doubling or been robbed of your portfolio in the shortest possible time.
When it's got to do with hodling, the dynamics to doubling comes with the time you put in and even might not be commensurate with the wait time in years. One thing remains for sure and that is, profit but, its coin specific though. Bitcoin remains the most recommended for hoding if you may. DYOR.

If you win a trade and earn a profit for sure there are trader around the world that lost it. That is really the life in trading if you win someone should lose if you lose someone should win it is the cycle and it never breaks that is why it is only rare who can earn a lot of profit in trading that is why others tend to walkway once the get enough profit for the day or for the month. On the other hand, holding is also great as long as you can control your emotion and less effort but again having control of your emotions are difficult so you should be prepared.
That's how trading is that we can't keep making profits because there will be times when we lose,
trading is also not that easy because it requires preparation,
in holding self-control or controlling emotions is so important and indeed it is difficult to practice.
Most noobs do really think up this way specially on their first encounter or try on trading on which they do really believe that making yourself profitable is really just easy with trading but on the time that they do really make out those real trades then this is where realizations do comes in which is really that very hard and its not something that you could easily deal with.We do really end up on holding if we are really that making
huge mistakes its not really that bad if you arent that liquidated due to futures trading..This is why its really that important on where you do know on where you would be heading up.
Holding is good but it would be that ideal if you do know on how to deal up with volatility and make profits in short duration.

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January 18, 2023, 10:40:08 AM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

That depends on the level of expertise and the market analysis skills of such individual, because trading can be more profitable than holding, if you handle your portfolio very well. Some newbies have skills and enough knowledge to sustain their trading journey, but mostly are not.
So, it is obvious that holding will be the best advice we can give to those people who are constantly lossing due to bad trading decisions.
Holding is for everyone I guess, as long as you're patient and doesn't get easily affected by bearish market.

Correct holding is for everyone, especially if you are not willing to lose your money. You can set your expected selling position after you
bought your assets, you need to patiently wait till the value hit your set target.

Just like what you said, trading is a good venue to grow your investment,, but it always depends on how a person can take care of
his knowledge and how good he is in doing the decision.

Not all are capable, that's reality, but as long as you have that goal, the chance is always possible for anyone.
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Now is the perfect time to invest.  Out of 100% assets 60% assets will be for long term and 20% assets for short trading and remaining 20% ​​assets will be reserves.
If the wealth is accumulated in this way, it will be used according to the need.  Reserve assets can be used in times of crisis and reinvested for these turbulent times.  A long-term investment would be appropriate at this time as Bitcoin prices have been trading at very high levels in the past.  From there it started to slow down to the last level and stood on the river bank.  As a result, this is our last chance to make a long-term investment.  This opportunity should never be wasted.
Must invest and I myself have invested in Bitcoin.

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That's how trading is that we can't keep making profits because there will be times when we lose, trading is also not that easy because it requires preparation, in holding self-control or controlling emotions is so important and indeed it is difficult to practice.
In spot trading at long term, the bear market is the accumulating phase. The loss here is only on the unrealized PnL. In the bull market you sell those same assets to get a profit plus your capital back, which you reinvest in the bear market. So there can be nothing easier than this. The only difficulty is the patience that you need keep and the grits to select the buy/sell price without regret.

Day trading on the other hand is way more risky and needs quick decision making and often staying online for long periods or at least running a bot to monitor the market. I dont recommend day trading to everyone, unless someone has a serious knack for it.

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February 04, 2023, 08:46:06 AM
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This mostly applied to investing, a trader isn't supposed to hodl unless you're trading for a very long time. Trading naturally should do with you taking advantage of the price difference in the market and that means you can buy and sell your coins as many times as possible even with in the interval of a day. As a trader your major concern should be how you can profit from the market now and not in the future.

Future thinking are for holders and they shouldn't care about the current movement of the market as their strategy should always involved holding for the future. You can be both a trader and an investors as both are profitable when you understand what you're doing and doing it right.

Doing mistake in the process of trading is avoidable if the trader is careful about it. And also I agreed with the statement of irhact, anyone that is trading most not hold because the trader most buy and sell and if the trader must buy and sell then there is no need for him to hold. Trading can not be a long term because it is a daily business. The trader must trade to make profit every day.
It is only investment that can go for a long term because the investor would just dropped the fund there and can waited for a very long period and have his profit from the long investment.
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February 04, 2023, 12:03:18 PM
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Doing mistake in the process of trading is avoidable if the trader is careful about it. And also I agreed with the statement of irhact, anyone that is trading most not hold because the trader most buy and sell and if the trader must buy and sell then there is no need for him to hold. Trading can not be a long term because it is a daily business. The trader must trade to make profit every day.
Trading can be both short-term and long-term, it is not necessary for a trader to buy and sell every day.

Traders are also different, there are those who like day trading, they make a lot of transactions every day, but there are also those who trade not so actively, they also follow the market, but they make significantly fewer transactions, perhaps only a few transactions per week, or even per month. In addition, there is long-term trading.

And besides, a trader can easily be a holder as well. He splits his funds, part of which goes to hold, and the other part he trades, and this happens very often.
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February 04, 2023, 02:02:00 PM
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This mostly applied to investing, a trader isn't supposed to hodl unless you're trading for a very long time. Trading naturally should do with you taking advantage of the price difference in the market and that means you can buy and sell your coins as many times as possible even with in the interval of a day. As a trader your major concern should be how you can profit from the market now and not in the future.

Future thinking are for holders and they shouldn't care about the current movement of the market as their strategy should always involved holding for the future. You can be both a trader and an investors as both are profitable when you understand what you're doing and doing it right.

Doing mistake in the process of trading is avoidable if the trader is careful about it. And also I agreed with the statement of irhact, anyone that is trading most not hold because the trader most buy and sell and if the trader must buy and sell then there is no need for him to hold. Trading can not be a long term because it is a daily business. The trader must trade to make profit every day.
It is only investment that can go for a long term because the investor would just dropped the fund there and can waited for a very long period and have his profit from the long investment.
And yeah, I totally agree with irhact. Trading is a daily grind, you gotta be on your toes and ready to make quick decisions. But holding, on the other hand, is a much more relaxed approach to investing. You put your money in and just let it sit there for the long haul, collecting gains along the way. It's a bit more chill and gives you more breathing room.

At the end of the day, both trading and holding have their pros and cons. It's all about finding the strategy that works best for you and sticking to it!
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February 05, 2023, 07:46:42 AM
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Because it takes constant time to do in-depth market research, holding on to a coin has historically been the best course of action. The secret to earning greater money in the area is patience. Whether you hold a coin for a long or short period of time, you'll either make money or lose money. The market is extremely risky, and depending on how the market functions, one has every chance of making profits or losing money. Different trading tactics are used on the market over certain weeks.
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February 05, 2023, 08:10:52 AM
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Because it takes constant time to do in-depth market research, holding on to a coin has historically been the best course of action. The secret to earning greater money in the area is patience.
Holding for a long term is good and better as, it comes with a minimal amount of risk and by that I mean, the risk which you can access easily and have a promiscuous future about but, you've got to be mindful of the coin your holding.
At the time, the altcoins I've tried holding haven't been of any benefit to me and it always feels as though, they was a big mistake. Most of the altcoins out there are pump and dump so, you don't hold for long, once you get some pump, take profit and leave.

Bitcoin is your most trusted coin for a long term holding. Get it, hold and have patience about it to make you some profit and even then, still hold.
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February 05, 2023, 01:24:18 PM
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Because it takes constant time to do in-depth market research, holding on to a coin has historically been the best course of action. The secret to earning greater money in the area is patience.
Holding for a long term is good and better as, it comes with a minimal amount of risk and by that I mean, the risk which you can access easily and have a promiscuous future about but, you've got to be mindful of the coin your holding.
At the time, the altcoins I've tried holding haven't been of any benefit to me and it always feels as though, they was a big mistake. Most of the altcoins out there are pump and dump so, you don't hold for long, once you get some pump, take profit and leave.

Bitcoin is your most trusted coin for a long term holding. Get it, hold and have patience about it to make you some profit and even then, still hold.
Hey there! So, let me tell you about holding onto crypto for the long haul. It's a smart move, my friend! Less risk and a brighter future, you know? But, here's the thing - you gotta pick the right coin to hold onto. I've tried dabbling in altcoins, but let me tell you, it's been a rough ride. Pump and dump schemes are everywhere, so when you get a little pump, take your profits and run.

But, if you really want to play it safe and secure a solid future, put your trust in the king of crypto - Bitcoin. Just hold onto it and be patient. It's not always easy, but it'll be worth it in the end, I promise!
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February 05, 2023, 02:01:45 PM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.
This is first lesson new trader should keep in mind because crypto is not an asset like gold or other asset and you can lose very big here. Whoever enters the market has only profit in mind, but he should think from both sides that there can be loss as well as profit.

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Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.
I am thinking Same and we can see a bull season again in 2023 also. Starting month  of this year was very good for crypto and we have seen many coins did 2x in very short of time. Fear is 50% over and now we need one big breakout of BTC to hit 30k with high volume then from here we expect big bull run of Altcoins.

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If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Trading is not bad option if once has lot of experience because I know many users Whose work is only to trade and they making very good profit and infact 5 times more than holder. Suppose if you buy one token and hold . It will take saveral up and down and then reach 2x and trader job is to buy low sell high and he will make profit in every up and down.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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February 05, 2023, 04:34:15 PM
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Investing and holding on for most of the time would be the wisest thing to do I think. Because it is not possible to get a very good profit by trading, but if you invest and hold for a long time, it is definitely possible to collect good quality profit. So I have held as much as possible on my part and it would be best to hold for now.

I agree with you that holding would be better since I am also a holder but I think trading can also make a good profit. Trading can still generate better returns than holding if you have enough knowledge and experience in trading. As we often say, the higher the risk, the higher the return, and the riskier trade than holding, so it cannot be said that its return is not equal to holding. It all depends on the knowledge and mindset of each investor.

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February 05, 2023, 08:28:29 PM
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yes its good but we can start trade with automatic trading bots its good for new traders

Bot are for automation and when you are that a noob then it wont really be that totally recommended to make use directly without even knowing on what it is, and on how it do works.Yes, there might be some pre-set

bot when it comes to strategies or whatsoever indicators been used but we do know that it wont really be that much as precise.So if you do really like to learn up trading then go for manual because this is the only way that you could practice up yourself and would make you learn at the same time because this is what you should really be aiming.Just make yourself dont rushing up on things because if you do
then this would create errors and mistakes which we should really avoid as much as we could.

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You are right in saying that, crypto trading is the heart of this industry which is why it has lasted this long.

    Now, when it comes to the matter of holdings, this is also an important thing that an individual trader should do, especially for those who believe in bitcoin, it is really good to save now, don't decide to save when you see the value of bitcoin increasing the most of the time because it is in a bull run. Does that mean there are so many gamblers in the US and so many rich people in their country too? Gambling is legal for them.



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Waiting for the proper moment to acquire bitcoin will be wonderful because the price of bitcoin has increased recently. Although I am aware that no one will be able to recognize the bull market since it is unknown, it is still feasible that a bull run will start when there is a bull market because the price will benefit you. Making poor decisions will be a major contributor to crypto trading failure.

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February 09, 2023, 04:19:27 PM
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yes its good but we can start trade with automatic trading bots its good for new traders

its good unless if you know how to pick a good bots as well according to your needs, if not then it's a waste of money.. Imagine how much it cost nowadays. Lol
Better to buy which coin is good when it comes long term than doing that especially if you're newbie. To good to be true for short.  Wink
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February 09, 2023, 06:20:44 PM
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yes its good but we can start trade with automatic trading bots its good for new traders

its good unless if you know how to pick a good bots as well according to your needs, if not then it's a waste of money.. Imagine how much it cost nowadays. Lol
Better to buy which coin is good when it comes long term than doing that especially if you're newbie. To good to be true for short.  Wink

It's good with traders who already have a good experienced in how the market is working, trading bot will depend on how the owner
will set it up to the outcome that they intended to execute.

I see lots of scam offers regarding to automated trading some are really too good to be true, better to think twice before you believe
that it can bring decent profits.

It might bring worse outcome and false hope, better to learn and master the business with patience and good understanding instead
to take a shortcut and regret once you failed.
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February 09, 2023, 08:51:48 PM
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Waiting for the proper moment to acquire bitcoin will be wonderful because the price of bitcoin has increased recently. Although I am aware that no one will be able to recognize the bull market since it is unknown, it is still feasible that a bull run will start when there is a bull market because the price will benefit you. Making poor decisions will be a major contributor to crypto trading failure.
And it's down again. Coming from $24k, it's like $21k-$22k as of this moment. And that's the moment that others might be waiting for but it's on them whether they'll be obliged or not.
Because even if we tell them how cheap it was before, many won't take action and telling that they should go for more dips before they entirely buy a few bits that will be part of their holding.

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February 09, 2023, 11:13:19 PM
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Waiting for the proper moment to acquire bitcoin will be wonderful because the price of bitcoin has increased recently. Although I am aware that no one will be able to recognize the bull market since it is unknown, it is still feasible that a bull run will start when there is a bull market because the price will benefit you. Making poor decisions will be a major contributor to crypto trading failure.
And it's down again. Coming from $24k, it's like $21k-$22k as of this moment. And that's the moment that others might be waiting for but it's on them whether they'll be obliged or not.
Because even if we tell them how cheap it was before, many won't take action and telling that they should go for more dips before they entirely buy a few bits that will be part of their holding.
They would be buying when the market is going up or having that green long candle which is really a very common approach for those people who doesnt have much experience towards the market.
Even into those old ones does have this kind of behavior on where they are really that afraid to accumulate while its still cheap and they would go all in when the market price is already been pumped.
For those who do make out some DCA then it wont really be that much of an issue but for those who do make out some long position are not mostly been liquidated depending on the
leverage that they had set out.

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February 12, 2023, 07:07:39 AM
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Waiting for the proper moment to acquire bitcoin will be wonderful because the price of bitcoin has increased recently. Although I am aware that no one will be able to recognize the bull market since it is unknown, it is still feasible that a bull run will start when there is a bull market because the price will benefit you. Making poor decisions will be a major contributor to crypto trading failure.
There is no specific time to make investmest,or to hold coins because there is no certain and sure time to make investmest and you won't experience setbacks or failure in the investmest.Any trader who wants to do well in his trading businessman,must know the strategies he will use at any given period of time because no time is certain for goood result.
Holding is very good because it doesn't really involve much risk,the only thing required in holding is patience,you must be patient if you are to hold or keep your project for a long time purpose or future.
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February 13, 2023, 12:35:20 PM
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Waiting for the proper moment to acquire bitcoin will be wonderful because the price of bitcoin has increased recently. Although I am aware that no one will be able to recognize the bull market since it is unknown, it is still feasible that a bull run will start when there is a bull market because the price will benefit you. Making poor decisions will be a major contributor to crypto trading failure.
And it's down again. Coming from $24k, it's like $21k-$22k as of this moment. And that's the moment that others might be waiting for but it's on them whether they'll be obliged or not.
Because even if we tell them how cheap it was before, many won't take action and telling that they should go for more dips before they entirely buy a few bits that will be part of their holding.

That's how some traders/investors deal with it,

they are afraid of taking the risk while the market is still down, but for those wise traders, they will take that risk and buy more as
they understand the cycle.

Buy and hold for the best interest for your investment, not all can patiently wait as most of the time traders are aiming for a
quick money that they can earn from the market.
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February 13, 2023, 08:42:15 PM
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Waiting for the proper moment to acquire bitcoin will be wonderful because the price of bitcoin has increased recently. Although I am aware that no one will be able to recognize the bull market since it is unknown, it is still feasible that a bull run will start when there is a bull market because the price will benefit you. Making poor decisions will be a major contributor to crypto trading failure.
And it's down again. Coming from $24k, it's like $21k-$22k as of this moment. And that's the moment that others might be waiting for but it's on them whether they'll be obliged or not.
Because even if we tell them how cheap it was before, many won't take action and telling that they should go for more dips before they entirely buy a few bits that will be part of their holding.

That's how some traders/investors deal with it,

they are afraid of taking the risk while the market is still down, but for those wise traders, they will take that risk and buy more as
they understand the cycle.

Buy and hold for the best interest for your investment, not all can patiently wait as most of the time traders are aiming for a
quick money that they can earn from the market.
On the time that you do get sufficient experience in the market then you would really be having this kind of approach on which you do know on when to  get in and when to get out but if you are deciding for long

term hold then you wouldn't mind on when you would really be getting in since you are really longing or going for long term.Holding might sound simple but its not that easy as it sounds yet lots of factors that would really be affecting your emotion and mindset along the way which might cause for you to sell early.I have been able to experience those things in the past when im just starting where i do decide to hold
but failed on doing so because im really that too impulsive on that time.
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February 14, 2023, 05:39:02 PM
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On the time that you do get sufficient experience in the market then you would really be having this kind of approach on which you do know on when to  get in and when to get out but if you are deciding for long

term hold then you wouldn't mind on when you would really be getting in since you are really longing or going for long term.Holding might sound simple but its not that easy as it sounds yet lots of factors that would really be affecting your emotion and mindset along the way which might cause for you to sell early.I have been able to experience those things in the past when im just starting where i do decide to hold
but failed on doing so because im really that too impulsive on that time.
I think that the majority of long-term hodlers are still waiting for the price to dump before they buy. It's a not a waste of time because there are dumps that we can experience from time to time. They can get some discounts upon doing this than if they will just buy at any price point or do a DCA. It helps them to squeeze more Bitcoins into their stash for a better profit percentage by the time the bull run comes out.

If you have an experience here then things are now going to be much easier for you so you are now opting for the long term but for the starters, there are still difficulties but they can always improve their performance over time.

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February 14, 2023, 07:18:00 PM
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Waiting for the proper moment to acquire bitcoin will be wonderful because the price of bitcoin has increased recently. Although I am aware that no one will be able to recognize the bull market since it is unknown, it is still feasible that a bull run will start when there is a bull market because the price will benefit you. Making poor decisions will be a major contributor to crypto trading failure.
And it's down again. Coming from $24k, it's like $21k-$22k as of this moment. And that's the moment that others might be waiting for but it's on them whether they'll be obliged or not.
Because even if we tell them how cheap it was before, many won't take action and telling that they should go for more dips before they entirely buy a few bits that will be part of their holding.

That's how some traders/investors deal with it,

they are afraid of taking the risk while the market is still down, but for those wise traders, they will take that risk and buy more as
they understand the cycle.

Buy and hold for the best interest for your investment, not all can patiently wait as most of the time traders are aiming for a
quick money that they can earn from the market.
There are different types of investors in this crypto market, many of them are interested in short term profit and there are many who want to stay away from it all. They are long term believers. A holder always get the highest advantage from all the aspects in crypto currency investment. But for this, he has to be patient enough. Holdings are relatively low risk and hassle free investment method. A large part of crypto investors are just trust holdings. Those who hold the appropriate coins will be benefited. But as easy as it seems to hold, it is not easy.

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February 14, 2023, 08:57:30 PM
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Waiting for the proper moment to acquire bitcoin will be wonderful because the price of bitcoin has increased recently. Although I am aware that no one will be able to recognize the bull market since it is unknown, it is still feasible that a bull run will start when there is a bull market because the price will benefit you. Making poor decisions will be a major contributor to crypto trading failure.
And it's down again. Coming from $24k, it's like $21k-$22k as of this moment. And that's the moment that others might be waiting for but it's on them whether they'll be obliged or not.
Because even if we tell them how cheap it was before, many won't take action and telling that they should go for more dips before they entirely buy a few bits that will be part of their holding.

That's how some traders/investors deal with it,

they are afraid of taking the risk while the market is still down, but for those wise traders, they will take that risk and buy more as
they understand the cycle.

Buy and hold for the best interest for your investment, not all can patiently wait as most of the time traders are aiming for a
quick money that they can earn from the market.
There are different types of investors in this crypto market, many of them are interested in short term profit and there are many who want to stay away from it all. They are long term believers. A holder always get the highest advantage from all the aspects in crypto currency investment. But for this, he has to be patient enough. Holdings are relatively low risk and hassle free investment method. A large part of crypto investors are just trust holdings. Those who hold the appropriate coins will be benefited. But as easy as it seems to hold, it is not easy.
But if we do make out  some comparison in between those holders and active traders when it comes to profit then there's no doubt that those who deal up in short term are the ones who would be tending to hold because not all could really be able to withstand the risk of this volatile and unpredictable market and this is why they do decide to hold instead on trading it up actively.
There are two types of investors on which the ones who do actively trades and the one who hold no matter what.Its true that holding might sound simply but its not because you would really
be that affected by lots of things along the way which would really be putting you in doubt whether you should hold or sell early or cut loss.

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February 15, 2023, 11:27:06 AM
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There are different types of investors in this crypto market, many of them are interested in short term profit and there are many who want to stay away from it all. They are long term believers. A holder always get the highest advantage from all the aspects in crypto currency investment. But for this, he has to be patient enough. Holdings are relatively low risk and hassle free investment method. A large part of crypto investors are just trust holdings. Those who hold the appropriate coins will be benefited. But as easy as it seems to hold, it is not easy.
It's not just the long term holders or investors get the high advantage. Short term investors get it as well as they're taking advantage of the market and if we're too stable for quite a while, they're trading within timeframes that they're comfortable with and sees the profit from it.
That's why both really are profitable but you have to choose on which side you're more profitable, on this case, I'm more profitable by being a long term holder and sees the advantage on it.

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February 15, 2023, 12:48:59 PM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Many have stopped investing and trading in other coins, including Bitcoin, after suffering losses from investing in Bitcoin. But now it appears that the market is rising slightly.  So during this time if you can carefully observe the market and trade then I think it is possible to get good amount of profit from this market. And there are many people who currently buy and hold a lot of bitcoins, they can trade from some part of their holding if they want.
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February 15, 2023, 12:59:00 PM
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It's not just the long term holders or investors get the high advantage. Short term investors get it as well as they're taking advantage of the market and if we're too stable for quite a while, they're trading within timeframes that they're comfortable with and sees the profit from it.
That's why both really are profitable but you have to choose on which side you're more profitable, on this case, I'm more profitable by being a long term holder and sees the advantage on it.
A long-term hold will always beat a short-term trade. Even successful traders say that before they started making money in trading, they had long periods when they lost money.

If a trader buys some asset and at some point he decides to sell it, and the coin will grow, then in fact this is already a loss of profit compared to the hold. In addition, trading is time consuming, the crypto market never stops and it can be very tiring to keep track of a trade.

For myself, I chose hold, it does not take much of my time, I buy bitcoin and send it to a cold wallet and this is where my work ends, then bitcoin works and hold does its job.
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February 15, 2023, 11:41:17 PM
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Holding has always been most person's preferred choices in terms ofmaking investment,because despite the fact that it requires a lot of patience,at the end point,profit is somehow guaranteed if the project that was held is fruitful.Holding has elevated so many persons in the bitcointalk forum,and so many people will always make holding of coin their top most profit.
In terms of comparison,holding is more better because it it is not too risky,while trading is like gambling, something that can take luck for someone to be able to win or make gain.
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February 16, 2023, 04:01:23 AM
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Holding has always been most person's preferred choices in terms ofmaking investment,because despite the fact that it requires a lot of patience,at the end point,profit is somehow guaranteed if the project that was held is fruitful.Holding has elevated so many persons in the bitcointalk forum,and so many people will always make holding of coin their top most profit.
In terms of comparison,holding is more better because it it is not too risky,while trading is like gambling, something that can take luck for someone to be able to win or make gain.
but holding a major coin would be better if it goes through an indeterminate wait. therefore choosing a good coin or altcoin is highly recommended in investing. The main thing is that we have to be realistic in choosing coins, it doesn't mean we can't invest in new projects, but we can do it with a small portion of capital, so it doesn't affect the health of our capital. because many people tend to want large returns, so they don't pay attention to good money management

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February 16, 2023, 01:14:52 PM
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I think things are more clear now, according to the current market situation the non-patient people can learn a lesson now. Now the Holders should enjoy the journey I am damn sure about the bitcoin it's going to 30k+ with no doubt. Holders can also troll the nonpatient people now haha I was watching soo many funny memes on such crypto market investors.

Anyway, this is nothing market is going to set a milestone for the ATH as you can say the warm-up journey of the market is ongoing and it is going to last until 47k+ market value of Bitcoin after that a roller coster ride is waiting for the investors. So Hold tight and be  alittle more patient these days. 

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February 16, 2023, 02:55:36 PM
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I think things are more clear now, according to the current market situation the non-patient people can learn a lesson now. Now the Holders should enjoy the journey I am damn sure about the bitcoin it's going to 30k+ with no doubt. Holders can also troll the nonpatient people now haha I was watching soo many funny memes on such crypto market investors.

Anyway, this is nothing market is going to set a milestone for the ATH as you can say the warm-up journey of the market is ongoing and it is going to last until 47k+ market value of Bitcoin after that a roller coster ride is waiting for the investors. So Hold tight and be  alittle more patient these days.
If they knew what the long-term potential hold was, then they would be happy to go for it without a doubt. Bitcoin is a better investment than gold, I think, but not everyone believes that to be true because some tend to believe that altcoin can bring them greater returns. I agree with some, but not all altcoin are hopeful in the long term.

I believe there is potential for bitcoin and some altcoin, this will allow me to diversify a few in my portfolio. So for whatever reason, having a high percentage of bitcoin ownership over the long term is very beneficial.

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February 16, 2023, 04:15:55 PM
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I think things are more clear now, according to the current market situation the non-patient people can learn a lesson now. Now the Holders should enjoy the journey I am damn sure about the bitcoin it's going to 30k+ with no doubt. Holders can also troll the nonpatient people now haha I was watching soo many funny memes on such crypto market investors.

Anyway, this is nothing market is going to set a milestone for the ATH as you can say the warm-up journey of the market is ongoing and it is going to last until 47k+ market value of Bitcoin after that a roller coster ride is waiting for the investors. So Hold tight and be  alittle more patient these days. 

Earlier, I made similar forecasts for the cryptocurrency market for (2023). 

The price of bitcoin will rise above $25,000.  $30,000 will not become a strong resistance level and the price will move higher.  Once the price breaks above $40,000, bullish optimism will take over traders.  They will expect the price of bitcoin to reach the new ATH.  However, this will not happen.  The price of Bitcoin will not be able to exceed $50,000, after which a new period of continuation of the bear market and extreme pessimism of the crypto industry participants will begin…

That was my prediction…. 

However, I am very upset when my predictions coincide with what other users of the Bitcointalk forum write.  Trading ideas that capture the masses of crypto enthusiasts, as a rule, are not implemented. 

Maybe this year will be different?

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If they knew what the long-term potential hold was, then they would be happy to go for it without a doubt. Bitcoin is a better investment than gold, I think, but not everyone believes that to be true because some tend to believe that altcoin can bring them greater returns. I agree with some, but not all altcoin are hopeful in the long term.

I believe there is potential for bitcoin and some altcoin, this will allow me to diversify a few in my portfolio. So for whatever reason, having a high percentage of bitcoin ownership over the long term is very beneficial.
Indeed as long as history keeps repeating itself it is very convincing. But holding back requires great strength and mentality. Not everyone is capable. Many traders are unable to hold on for a long time and prefer Altcoins for short-term trading. Whether it's a loss, I think not. As long as they are able to do the analysis they are able to seize the moment very favorably in a short period. Besides that there is currently Futures trading, it will also make short-term trading more varied.
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February 16, 2023, 06:25:28 PM
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It's not just the long term holders or investors get the high advantage. Short term investors get it as well as they're taking advantage of the market and if we're too stable for quite a while, they're trading within timeframes that they're comfortable with and sees the profit from it.
That's why both really are profitable but you have to choose on which side you're more profitable, on this case, I'm more profitable by being a long term holder and sees the advantage on it.
A long-term hold will always beat a short-term trade. Even successful traders say that before they started making money in trading, they had long periods when they lost money.

If a trader buys some asset and at some point he decides to sell it, and the coin will grow, then in fact this is already a loss of profit compared to the hold. In addition, trading is time consuming, the crypto market never stops and it can be very tiring to keep track of a trade.

For myself, I chose hold, it does not take much of my time, I buy bitcoin and send it to a cold wallet and this is where my work ends, then bitcoin works and hold does its job.
We're the same as we've chosen to be holders, not just holders but long-term holders. It's because we see what we can do with it and it's saving us time.
Unlike being focused on trading, day trading, we can do other things that we want to do. Also, we know that trading is tough and it's not going to suit everyone's ideas and liking.
There will be some time that you'll think that trading is more profitable but, if you try it and didn't become successful with it then you'll just be back to holding.

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Many have stopped investing and trading in other coins, including Bitcoin, after suffering losses from investing in Bitcoin. But now it appears that the market is rising slightly.  So during this time if you can carefully observe the market and trade then I think it is possible to get good amount of profit from this market. And there are many people who currently buy and hold a lot of bitcoins, they can trade from some part of their holding if they want.

Holding will be the perfect decision for times like now that the market is very uncertain. The price of Bitcoin has been moving up for sometimes yet people are still calling for the dip as they believe we haven't bottom out in all the dips that have happened in the market. People believe this dips were as a result of the different unfortunate events that unfold on the market like Luna collapse and SBF fraudulent acts.

Only Bitcoin and very few altcoins are moving in price and they are the only choices to go to if you want to trade in this season as you can buy Bitcoin and sell while making lots of profits from the price difference with in the day. As for trading alts, that would be a no since nobody can be sure of which one is surviving and not getting dragged down.

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When a person tends to focus more on the fact that their tendency is to put money and wait, I would recommend that they dedicate themselves to investing, on the contrary, if they are a person who does not have much patience and who wants to have quick results, then I would give them to leave. and be a market speculator.

The one who leaves as an investor, his job is not difficult, just be aware, follow up, it is not a very difficult job, just buy and wait for the price to rise, as long as the money you have earmarked for investment does not affect your daily life for your basic needs, because the ideal is that you only withdraw when you make a profit, that is my advice, otherwise you have to think about it very carefully, obviously what I recommend to invest is BITCOIN.

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Holding will be the perfect decision for times like now that the market is very uncertain. The price of Bitcoin has been moving up for sometimes yet people are still calling for the dip as they believe we haven't bottom out in all the dips that have happened in the market. People believe this dips were as a result of the different unfortunate events that unfold on the market like Luna collapse and SBF fraudulent acts.

Only Bitcoin and very few altcoins are moving in price and they are the only choices to go to if you want to trade in this season as you can buy Bitcoin and sell while making lots of profits from the price difference with in the day. As for trading alts, that would be a no since nobody can be sure of which one is surviving and not getting dragged down.
If you buy altcoins for short-term trading, then these are often very profitable transactions, you just need to understand which token to buy, if you do it at random, then it is clear that this can lead to loss of money. For a long-term hold, it is worth buying bitcoin and possibly a few altcoins that you are confident in, but you need to understand that this will not be so safe and therefore these investments should be small relative to your portfolio.

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Investing and holding on for most of the time would be the wisest thing to do I think. Because it is not possible to get a very good profit by trading, but if you invest and hold for a long time, it is definitely possible to collect good quality profit. So I have held as much as possible on my part and it would be best to hold for now.

I agree with you that holding would be better since I am also a holder but I think trading can also make a good profit. Trading can still generate better returns than holding if you have enough knowledge and experience in trading. As we often say, the higher the risk, the higher the return, and the riskier trade than holding, so it cannot be said that its return is not equal to holding. It all depends on the knowledge and mindset of each investor.
It is very difficult to trade profitably when the market is bearish. But in this case, if you trade with some break, you can get good profit. Trading is a risky platform where caution is the most appropriate rule. But the market outlook looks like it will stay in place for a long time. Those who believe in holdings in cryptocurrency will certainly get benefit. I think holding is the right decision under the current circumstances. Where the possibility of making profit is high.

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Holding has always been most person's preferred choices in terms ofmaking investment,because despite the fact that it requires a lot of patience,at the end point,profit is somehow guaranteed if the project that was held is fruitful.Holding has elevated so many persons in the bitcointalk forum,and so many people will always make holding of coin their top most profit.
In terms of comparison,holding is more better because it it is not too risky,while trading is like gambling, something that can take luck for someone to be able to win or make gain.
but holding a major coin would be better if it goes through an indeterminate wait. therefore choosing a good coin or altcoin is highly recommended in investing. The main thing is that we have to be realistic in choosing coins, it doesn't mean we can't invest in new projects, but we can do it with a small portion of capital, so it doesn't affect the health of our capital. because many people tend to want large returns, so they don't pay attention to good money management
if you really don't want to exhaust your thoughts and strategies that must be prepared, obviously holding is for a long time is the most appropriate answer, I agree that's because many don't want to make speculations that will impact many possibilities that can occur. especially investing in new projects which usually provide very tempting returns but behind all that the possibility of becoming a scam is very common at this time, also with trading which is always very risky if you are not good at analyzing properly even though the profits are as big as new projects.
everyone clearly wants huge profits and I agree with that and no one wants to spend funds for investment, only a little profit, but all of that is very risky compared to us just wanting to hold it, which will certainly be profitable.

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Investing and holding on for most of the time would be the wisest thing to do I think. Because it is not possible to get a very good profit by trading, but if you invest and hold for a long time, it is definitely possible to collect good quality profit. So I have held as much as possible on my part and it would be best to hold for now.

I agree with you that holding would be better since I am also a holder but I think trading can also make a good profit. Trading can still generate better returns than holding if you have enough knowledge and experience in trading. As we often say, the higher the risk, the higher the return, and the riskier trade than holding, so it cannot be said that its return is not equal to holding. It all depends on the knowledge and mindset of each investor.
It is very difficult to trade profitably when the market is bearish. But in this case, if you trade with some break, you can get good profit. Trading is a risky platform where caution is the most appropriate rule. But the market outlook looks like it will stay in place for a long time. Those who believe in holdings in cryptocurrency will certainly get benefit. I think holding is the right decision under the current circumstances. Where the possibility of making profit is high.
When you are a scalper or day trader then it wont really be that an issue whether the market is bearish or bullish since you are always depending on how the market moves and as long it does have that volatility then you do really have the opportunity on making profits which is something that matter the most.If you are a holder then you should really mean it but its not something that it sounds
because there are lots of factors which could really affect out someones goals or targets considering that market could really be having lots of fundamentals which
would be giving out those doubts.
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Investing definitely superior approach in term of gaining profit and getting best result out of your money. lets be real, how much people could profit off trading if we're being honest, it's gonna be very few, you're quite literally going against the whales with millions and insiders info in their arsenal. if you think you're some special person destined to go against the wave then maybe you should rethink your decision twice because that might just be your delusion. but if your trading decision has shown massive returns and you're quite good at doing it then I guess you should continue since you're talented, that only if you could keep up the results for the future.
otherwise it's just wiser to invest, you gonna encounter plenty of chance of flipping your money and made massive return as long as you are diligent enough in choosing the coin you're gonna be investing.

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March 09, 2023, 11:59:33 PM
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lets be real, how much people could profit off trading if we're being honest, it's gonna be very few, you're quite literally going against the whales with millions and insiders info in their arsenal.

Is that the challenge why we trade? Why take care of those whales? Just my mind our own.

As an experienced trader for a long, anyone can form a strategy on how to ride the wave when whales did and execute some action that can shake the market.

Whales are already part of trading and we should be used to it.
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March 10, 2023, 03:36:19 PM
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lets be real, how much people could profit off trading if we're being honest, it's gonna be very few, you're quite literally going against the whales with millions and insiders info in their arsenal.

Is that the challenge why we trade? Why take care of those whales? Just my mind our own.

As an experienced trader for a long, anyone can form a strategy on how to ride the wave when whales did and execute some action that can shake the market.

Whales are already part of trading and we should be used to it.

Exactly! Whales will always be present when there's money making opportunities that's why we needed to anticipate them and
know how to ride with their participations.

Knowing how they will shake or pump the market will give us an edge to compensate, you just need to learn deeper in terms of managing
how to ride with their actions.

With that knowledge, the chance is good for you to enjoy the opportunities.
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March 10, 2023, 04:00:50 PM
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lets be real, how much people could profit off trading if we're being honest, it's gonna be very few, you're quite literally going against the whales with millions and insiders info in their arsenal.

Is that the challenge why we trade? Why take care of those whales? Just my mind our own.

As an experienced trader for a long, anyone can form a strategy on how to ride the wave when whales did and execute some action that can shake the market.

Whales are already part of trading and we should be used to it.

You cannot discuss trading without mention of whales and market makers, they control the markets. I was reading how market makers where in control of coins and how they manipulated every other traders make everyone knows what these guys are all about, they control the market, they pump the way they like and dump when they feel they have had enough of a coin. This is why you can see some coins keep rising without any fundamental news of the coin, the can use insider info to outsmart other gullible people that know nothing about what is happening.

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March 10, 2023, 05:34:37 PM
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I don't think all trader mindset with holding could be better because they are trying with profitable earn in daily day,
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Actually there is a difference between trading and investment, for those who can't do daily trade investment is the best option because daily trading is not  easy it requires a lot of experience, but investment is something that even a newbie can do and  Can invest in good projects.Investing from trading is very easy because you can enter in bear market in any good projects and then exit the market with good profit in bull season. Once you invest and then you don't have to do daily brainstorming.I think investment is better than reading.

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March 10, 2023, 06:12:17 PM
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You cannot discuss trading without mention of whales and market makers, they control the markets.
Such manipulations can be easily done with coins with a small capitalization, but it is almost impossible with top coins.
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lets be real, how much people could profit off trading if we're being honest, it's gonna be very few, you're quite literally going against the whales with millions and insiders info in their arsenal.

Is that the challenge why we trade? Why take care of those whales? Just my mind our own.

As an experienced trader for a long, anyone can form a strategy on how to ride the wave when whales did and execute some action that can shake the market.

Whales are already part of trading and we should be used to it.

Indeed, they are merely just traders who holds a large amount than most of us. I believe that this ride the wave attitude is great since when you come to think of it, even they might have a large money to invest in, they are there to trade to gain, thus, they are really assessing everything before they buy something. But, we don't have the capacity to tell what could happen any minute, so we should be more cautious in making decisions.
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March 12, 2023, 07:59:22 PM
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Holding could be always better for everyone at the time of bearish season. But in this case we have to be careful to choose coins, because holding will always be profitable when we select the right coin. If you don't select good coins, it won't take long to lose against profitable ones. Bitcoin will be the best option for holding especially in this bear market.  Currently, it is about 3x below its all-time high, so it is expected that the futures can touch a good price along with its recovery. So I would again say holding always later for the bearish market.


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March 12, 2023, 10:15:26 PM
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Holding could be always better for everyone at the time of bearish season. But in this case we have to be careful to choose coins, because holding will always be profitable when we select the right coin. If you don't select good coins, it won't take long to lose against profitable ones. Bitcoin will be the best option for holding especially in this bear market.  Currently, it is about 3x below its all-time high, so it is expected that the futures can touch a good price along with its recovery. So I would again say holding always later for the bearish market.
Holding is important or you would be ending up on being a holder specially when your coins are on negative or specially if you do have an open spot order which is on negative.There's no sense on closing up your

position and considered for it to be a lost totally since you could really still hold and wait up for the market recovery or simply its just a paper loss.If you arent that sure when it comes to your trading decisions
or really boggled up your mind that it might really be ending up on a bad decision then just like been said that it would really be just right that you should really hold it up rather than on making some action.
It wont really be not necessary and dont make yourself in a hurry on making decisions because it would really be causing errors and mistakes eventually.

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March 13, 2023, 06:06:06 AM
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Is that the challenge why we trade? Why take care of those whales? Just my mind our own.

As an experienced trader for a long, anyone can form a strategy on how to ride the wave when whales did and execute some action that can shake the market.

Whales are already part of trading and we should be used to it.

Actually, yes, you should have your own working strategy that you need to follow if it brings you profit. Whales will be in the market as long as they are interested in being here, but that doesn't change anything because trading requires following certain rules to stay afloat, otherwise you could lose money. A few simple rules that must not be broken and you will be able to survive here.

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Act wisely and invest responsibly because All traders, including seasoned pros, make these errors, for which they ultimately pay a price. The primary prototype that a trader should control is greed. Beginners and traders succumb to greed and overtrade, which leads to blunders. I am aware that keeping is occasionally preferable, which is why they always recommend trading within your means. If you go over budget and trade with your savings, you may be obliged to sell the coins at key moments when keeping them could have been a better choice.
After countless hours of trading, I have ascertained that avarice is unequivocally the harbinger of missteps in the market. The euphoria and rush of the trade can be intoxicating, however, one must remain lucid if they aspire to net any tangible profits. The key to long-term success is to always trade within one's financial limits. Avoid investing more than you're willing to lose, and never permit your emotions to take the helm.
The wisdom of my mistakes still reverberates within me. It was not too long ago when I was ensnared by the frenzy surrounding a fledgling cryptocurrency, and carelessly sunk all of my savings into it. I was so convinced that this was my gateway to financial freedom. Unfortunately, the market took a turn for the worse, and I was compelled to sell my coins at an egregious loss. Had I been a more prudent investor, I could have weathered the storm and emerged triumphant
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Is that the challenge why we trade? Why take care of those whales? Just my mind our own.

As an experienced trader for a long, anyone can form a strategy on how to ride the wave when whales did and execute some action that can shake the market.

Whales are already part of trading and we should be used to it.

Actually, yes, you should have your own working strategy that you need to follow if it brings you profit. Whales will be in the market as long as they are interested in being here, but that doesn't change anything because trading requires following certain rules to stay afloat, otherwise you could lose money. A few simple rules that must not be broken and you will be able to survive here.
right, we must exercise self-discipline regarding the framework we have planned. it sounds very trivial, but to apply it we have to repeat it so that we can be self-disciplined, and finally can control ourselves and emotions can be overcome. that way we will be able to assess the development of our strategy, and be able to realize its weaknesses, because there is no one perfect strategy, so we must be able to respond to it

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March 13, 2023, 01:26:45 PM
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I think any fresher or newbie in trading have to know actually that Trading have to do with methods, in trading you cannot use what you cannot afford to lose, its obvious that trading have two perspective, either it occurs on negative side or the positive side, it depends your understanding to overcome the risk level involve in trading, so I believe that trading anything can occur during trading and it needs attention or precautions to be successful, and its encouraging not to lend to engage in trading because of its disadvantages or lose.

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Act wisely and invest responsibly because All traders, including seasoned pros, make these errors, for which they ultimately pay a price. The primary prototype that a trader should control is greed. Beginners and traders succumb to greed and overtrade, which leads to blunders. I am aware that keeping is occasionally preferable, which is why they always recommend trading within your means. If you go over budget and trade with your savings, you may be obliged to sell the coins at key moments when keeping them could have been a better choice.
You have said too many important things.

Having a budget is necessary for traders and also, being greedy is one of the reasons why many traders go beyond with their trades. They think that it's normal for them to ask for that much profit.

But in the end, they're not even profiting and instead, they're losing more due to that. Being greedy won't bring you to a better place whether you're a trader or a holder.

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Act wisely and invest responsibly because All traders, including seasoned pros, make these errors, for which they ultimately pay a price. The primary prototype that a trader should control is greed. Beginners and traders succumb to greed and overtrade, which leads to blunders. I am aware that keeping is occasionally preferable, which is why they always recommend trading within your means. If you go over budget and trade with your savings, you may be obliged to sell the coins at key moments when keeping them could have been a better choice.
You have said too many important things.

Having a budget is necessary for traders and also, being greedy is one of the reasons why many traders go beyond with their trades. They think that it's normal for them to ask for that much profit.

But in the end, they're not even profiting and instead, they're losing more due to that. Being greedy won't bring you to a better place whether you're a trader or a holder.

Most of the time yes, but there is also greedy trader who maximize their benefits and manage to earn decently with such kind
of strategy, but again most of them losses a lot.

Especially those who can't control that greediness, instead of earning, they find themselves losing.

Still far better to have a good money management and good balance with your limitations for your investment/trades.
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March 17, 2023, 03:31:34 AM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

Its up to them since many people want to earn more money from trading rather than holding, personally, when I see an opportunity to trade then I will trade all my funds without any leverage. But when the market is hard to decide, holding my funds while staking is preferable.


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you will only lose if you come to sell your Holding/coins meaning that as long as you are keeping them on your wallet then no losing that happened as we have observed this several times in our wallets.
there are also some chances that after we sell? the price suddenly recovered and yes we are loser while holders turns winner.
just buy when you have funds,and keep them hold until you badly need money or achieved what amount you targeted rom your investments.









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March 17, 2023, 09:58:14 AM
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it depends on the perspective of the person, if indeed he is a trader I think he will look for opportunities in a short time, and will continue to monitor market conditions, good and bad news, then they will make their own analysis, maybe they will allocate a maximum of 50% if indeed they saw a definite opportunity.
but to hold the case is different because the person has other activities outside of that so they don't need to see the news/short term movement.

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March 17, 2023, 10:08:25 AM
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Are you aware to the famous saying regarding the trend is your friend? I'll explain what does this famous saying means. It is not just about holding a coin for such long period of time because there are no certainty that it can give  you huge profit in the near future. 1st we should understand the basic information about the trend and how to identify a chart if it is uptrend, downtrend or sideways. If you finally identify the trend then choose a cryptocurrency that are belong in the uptrend because the chances of winning by holding a uptrend is really high. If you hold a cryptocurrency that is downtrend, the chances of winning is very low and you could incur huge losses. The general market rule is the price is continuing to appreciate like a stairway during uptrend so better if we will hold a uptrend coin.

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Its up to them since many people want to earn more money from trading rather than holding, personally, when I see an opportunity to trade then I will trade all my funds without any leverage. But when the market is hard to decide, holding my funds while staking is preferable.
Of course when they are responsible for what they decide then they are free to do anything for their own interests.
I don't trade, but I tend to invest long term. The profit I get can be no more than the traders, or it can be better than most novice traders, but the point is this has to be done as needed. So it's definitely not a problem to get them to trade, invest or whatever they think is better. It really depends, but all in all the goal is profit.

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Its up to them since many people want to earn more money from trading rather than holding, personally, when I see an opportunity to trade then I will trade all my funds without any leverage. But when the market is hard to decide, holding my funds while staking is preferable.
Of course when they are responsible for what they decide then they are free to do anything for their own interests.
I don't trade, but I tend to invest long term. The profit I get can be no more than the traders, or it can be better than most novice traders, but the point is this has to be done as needed. So it's definitely not a problem to get them to trade, invest or whatever they think is better. It really depends, but all in all the goal is profit.
Trading as an activity can involve both making a profit and making a loss, and besides, it takes a very long time if you do it professionally.

So far, I have determined for myself that it will be more profitable for me to focus on my work and invest the money I earn in bitcoin. For me it is more convenient because it is a guaranteed profit that I can predict.

If someone has excellent results in trading and they can be stable over a long period of time, then of course you can trade, but everyone cannot be successful traders, because in order for someone to earn on the market, someone must lose.
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this is a good strategy for those who don't want to do or monitor the market on a daily basis, they will buy then forget about it in a few years then reap the rewards, but not suitable for high risk altcoins, and it is recommended to buy low risk coins, maybe top 10 better marketcap.

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You cannot discuss trading without mention of whales and market makers, they control the markets.
Such manipulations can be easily done with coins with a small capitalization, but it is almost impossible with top coins.

Not everything is like that, what can move the market are the emotions of the people and because of this even the same whales fall surrendered at the feet of the emotions , this is something that can be said to be also a reason for the same whales that they produce it, we must take into consideration that whales have many ways of making weak hands sell, bad news often means that they have to sell for them to buy, the market is like a jungle where you have to know how to interpret all the signals that occur, lso fundamentals , everything influences the speculative market.

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this is a good strategy for those who don't want to do or monitor the market on a daily basis, they will buy then forget about it in a few years then reap the rewards, but not suitable for high risk altcoins, and it is recommended to buy low risk coins, maybe top 10 better marketcap.
the most important thing is don't forget to save the assets you bought in your wallet. don't leave it on the exchange. for long term holding, it is better to focus on Bitcoin. and just ignore Altcoins, even if they are top 10 marketcap. because in the next few years, we will never know what will happen to the projects where we put money. what happened to FTX and Luna should teach us many lessons for choosing a project.


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this is a good strategy for those who don't want to do or monitor the market on a daily basis, they will buy then forget about it in a few years then reap the rewards, but not suitable for high risk altcoins, and it is recommended to buy low risk coins, maybe top 10 better marketcap.
Which top 10 is better?
that's also not a guarantee, you have to remember that LUNA was also in the Top 10 and in the end Rugpull and everyone lost. For the long term the safest is only Bitcoin, if you don't want to bother doing more research. But if you still want to choose altcoins as a long-term backup investment, Ethereum and BNB can be a good suggestion (but at your own risk). The long term strategy is suitable for everyone, and not having to stare at the screen all the time to monitor the price. Simply buy and hold until the target price is reached. quite easy.
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March 27, 2023, 10:58:13 PM
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this is a good strategy for those who don't want to do or monitor the market on a daily basis, they will buy then forget about it in a few years then reap the rewards, but not suitable for high risk altcoins, and it is recommended to buy low risk coins, maybe top 10 better marketcap.

If you analyze TOP-10 for several years, you'll see that the TOP-10 has repeatedly changed, and often coins from TOP-10 disappeared forever (because they reached the maximum price and became uninteresting for manipulators). So hold makes sense for coins not from TOP-10 (but you need to choose project carefully)
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

DCA is the best method in crypto currency but if you are buying tokens and they are falling continuously i.e. if the market is falling then you should never panic but for this you need to have fund.But if you sit in the market with the 80%  fund and wait for the market to go down further, then you will buy.So no one has complete knowledge of how  the market go down.Therefore, you should always keep around 30% of the fund with you so that you can buy from the bottom in case of any dip in the market.f you wait with the 80% fund and the market doesn't come down and goes up from there, your fund will stay the same and you may miss out on profits.Because in crypto currency you have to take some risk, then you can get a good profit.However, always keep some part of your fund with you so that you can buy cryptocurrencies at a lower price when needed.Because it is also not wise to use the entire fund.I think 30% fund should always be kept.

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this is a good strategy for those who don't want to do or monitor the market on a daily basis, they will buy then forget about it in a few years then reap the rewards, but not suitable for high risk altcoins, and it is recommended to buy low risk coins, maybe top 10 better marketcap.
No matter how you want to make money from the market, you must have a good strategy for you to be a consistent and profitable trader. You need to take your time and know what you are doing as a trader so that we are not going to be losing consistently without making good profits. Trading need more understanding of the market than we thinking of making consistent profits from the market.
We need to hold if we are investors for we to make more money from the market. Now that it seems like Bitcoin is on a bullish trend, we need to buy low so we can earn big when thw bull market comes.









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March 28, 2023, 01:28:06 PM
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this is a good strategy for those who don't want to do or monitor the market on a daily basis, they will buy then forget about it in a few years then reap the rewards, but not suitable for high risk altcoins, and it is recommended to buy low risk coins, maybe top 10 better marketcap.
No matter how you want to make money from the market, you must have a good strategy for you to be a consistent and profitable trader. You need to take your time and know what you are doing as a trader so that we are not going to be losing consistently without making good profits. Trading need more understanding of the market than we thinking of making consistent profits from the market.
We need to hold if we are investors for we to make more money from the market. Now that it seems like Bitcoin is on a bullish trend, we need to buy low so we can earn big when thw bull market comes.
Reflecting on myself, where I am busy with office work every day, so I choose long-term investments and hold them while waiting for the bullish season to come. therefore by holding it I do not disturb my daily routine. Instead of short-term trading, where I have to fully concentrate on paying attention to the market, I think it will interfere with my activities. but these conditions may be different for other people, who have knowledge about trading and have free time
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Of course holding is good but it has to have a specificity. As you invest you must have a target and if that target moves then you must exit your holding. You have to do whatever your heart desires. A lot of people hold and don't sell after the price goes up and then goes down again and then they regret it. So I mean if you are holding then you must sell it at a certain target. Only then will I consider that holding to be better.

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this is a good strategy for those who don't want to do or monitor the market on a daily basis, they will buy then forget about it in a few years then reap the rewards, but not suitable for high risk altcoins, and it is recommended to buy low risk coins, maybe top 10 better marketcap.

What do you mean by not suitable for high risk altcoins, is there altcoin that doesn't have high risk in the market and what I even learn from risky altcoins is that they have high profits when you are patients and hold for long time. It has been proven that in crypto, if you want to make it out here, you have to hold and have the patient even if people are afraid and panic selling their coins, there is reward that comes with that patients when it is time for bull run because that is the best time to make big figures and escape poverty life.

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Yes, it's generally a good idea for new traders to be cautious and only trade with money that they can afford to lose. Trading can be risky, and even experienced traders can experience losses from time to time. By using money that they can afford to lose, new traders can limit their risk and avoid any negative impact on their personal finances.

It's also important for new traders to have a clear understanding of the risks involved in trading and to develop a solid trading plan before they start investing real money. This may involve researching different trading strategies, studying market trends, and gaining experience through paper trading or using a demo account.

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March 28, 2023, 03:33:12 PM
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I basically hold in two ways with my wealth I have invested something for the long term.  And with some other assets I trade which is hugely profitable for positive periods.  Newbies can get huge returns in the field of trading, just by doing market research with time, short term trades or investments will get massive results.

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March 28, 2023, 03:35:53 PM
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Of course holding is good but it has to have a specificity. As you invest you must have a target and if that target moves then you must exit your holding. You have to do whatever your heart desires. A lot of people hold and don't sell after the price goes up and then goes down again and then they regret it. So I mean if you are holding then you must sell it at a certain target. Only then will I consider that holding to be better.

Storing assets in a hardware wallet for a long time would definitely work best.  Because there will be no fear of losing your assets, your assets are very secure and can be collected completely through hardware wallet or Electrum wallet.  But it has to be a long term hold.  Definitely will add huge benefits to the wallet in the future.

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March 28, 2023, 05:58:19 PM
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Not everything is like that, what can move the market are the emotions of the people and because of this even the same whales fall surrendered at the feet of the emotions , this is something that can be said to be also a reason for the same whales that they produce it, we must take into consideration that whales have many ways of making weak hands sell, bad news often means that they have to sell for them to buy, the market is like a jungle where you have to know how to interpret all the signals that occur, lso fundamentals , everything influences the speculative market.
Most of us here knew that emotions are not great to carry in the field. Only the newbies are emotional but their numbers are too little to shake this market. Whales are professional and they do this on purpose not because they are too emotional and if they are too emotional, they will worry about those who will lose so they will not end up manipulating the market.

Another tactic made by whales to shake the market is by creating a FUD. It's important for us to make a research first if the news that we are seeing is true or only just a FUD so that we won't ended up selling our coins. The market is indeed like a jungle. It's either you will be a predator or a prey.

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March 28, 2023, 09:18:45 PM
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Not everything is like that, what can move the market are the emotions of the people and because of this even the same whales fall surrendered at the feet of the emotions , this is something that can be said to be also a reason for the same whales that they produce it, we must take into consideration that whales have many ways of making weak hands sell, bad news often means that they have to sell for them to buy, the market is like a jungle where you have to know how to interpret all the signals that occur, lso fundamentals , everything influences the speculative market.
Most of us here knew that emotions are not great to carry in the field. Only the newbies are emotional but their numbers are too little to shake this market. Whales are professional and they do this on purpose not because they are too emotional and if they are too emotional, they will worry about those who will lose so they will not end up manipulating the market.

Another tactic made by whales to shake the market is by creating a FUD. It's important for us to make a research first if the news that we are seeing is true or only just a FUD so that we won't ended up selling our coins. The market is indeed like a jungle. It's either you will be a predator or a prey.
Emotions is one of the main factors on which it could really affect us out when it comes to our trading strategies and plans on which it would really be just that right that you shouldnt really make yourself get easily panic.
If you cant bare up the risks when it comes to volatility then its better to make yourself decide on holding instead of making active dealing or trading because it would really be just create those kind of mistakes.
Hold if you do see that you cant take volatility, but there are people who are really that tending to dive with the risks on which it would really be just normal that some will really be ending up
like a holder because they cant take of about these moving prices.

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March 29, 2023, 06:47:57 AM
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if it's about bitcoins then continuing to accumulate and hold them is exactly what i did and i consider it the best for me. because I also think now is still in the accumulation period. and I accumulate bitcoins with the money I make from the profits I make in day trading. I set aside any money I earn and spend it on bitcoins every week. so the money that I use to accumulate bitcoins is really cold money.

but because I am also a day trader and I keep turning my money in trading every day. in trading I also divide trading into two parts, namely medium-term trading and short-term trading. and for the medium term my capital is divided into several parts. and only put in about 5-10 percent of capital per entry and when the purchase entry is filled and then the price actually decreases, I use the Average Down strategy. namely buying back from below with the same capital of 5-10 percent. and keep buying at each drop level. and until now this method is quite effective in medium-term trading. but for the short term or scalping. I use small funds, maybe only 2-5 percent of my total capital. and I'm not aiming for big profits. I only target small profits and keep repeating it. and the stop loss should also be used at a loss tolerance level that I can afford.

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Investing definitely superior approach in term of gaining profit and getting best result out of your money. lets be real, how much people could profit off trading if we're being honest, it's gonna be very few, you're quite literally going against the whales with millions and insiders info in their arsenal. if you think you're some special person destined to go against the wave then maybe you should rethink your decision twice because that might just be your delusion. but if your trading decision has shown massive returns and you're quite good at doing it then I guess you should continue since you're talented, that only if you could keep up the results for the future.
otherwise it's just wiser to invest, you gonna encounter plenty of chance of flipping your money and made massive return as long as you are diligent enough in choosing the coin you're gonna be investing.

But even though the whales have millions in their pockets that doesn't mean that we have to be pessimistic, maybe we can get profit with the right strategy, because in trading all possibilities can happen. When the whales make waves, we can take advantage of it as a profit opportunity, if we can read the market and are patient enough to see opportunities, it could be possible.

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March 29, 2023, 09:26:48 AM
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No matter how you want to make money from the market, you must have a good strategy for you to be a consistent and profitable trader. You need to take your time and know what you are doing as a trader so that we are not going to be losing consistently without making good profits. Trading need more understanding of the market than we thinking of making consistent profits from the market.

Trading has lots of activities to do and it's very risky since you can lose all your money, which is why the OP is suggesting about holding instead of trading. There's nothing wrong if you want to trade but only those who are professional should do such as a user who doesn't have the experience will lose all they capital they have invested.

Although with holding, your take yourself out of the emotional rollercoaster that the market has. The volatility of the market won't affect your mental health and that's if you're the patience with your investment and not always checking to see which price your coins are currently at.

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the most important thing is don't forget to save the assets you bought in your wallet. don't leave it on the exchange. for long term holding, it is better to focus on Bitcoin. and just ignore Altcoins, even if they are top 10 marketcap. because in the next few years, we will never know what will happen to the projects where we put money. what happened to FTX and Luna should teach us many lessons for choosing a project.

I also try not to keep the coins on the exchange for a long time, when I have such a need, I try to keep it no more than a few days. I feel much more relaxed when my coins are stored in my wallet. And lately I'm more inclined to the fact that I like the hold more, bitcoin in a reliable wallet gives me confidence and a restful sleep. Trading has its benefits, but sometimes it takes too much of my time.

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March 29, 2023, 10:19:21 AM
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But even though the whales have millions in their pockets that doesn't mean that we have to be pessimistic, maybe we can get profit with the right strategy, because in trading all possibilities can happen. When the whales make waves, we can take advantage of it as a profit opportunity, if we can read the market and are patient enough to see opportunities, it could be possible.

When whales play with big waves small fish should stay behind and take what is smaller than whales pay attention to. It is a first step, to understand your role in the market and follow it. If you find a correct strategy for your role you can get a relatively good income. If some try to pretend other's roles they'll more likely lose because a small fish can never do the same thing as a whale. But whales will hardly fight for what they consider as trifle and what can be valuable for small fish, and that's why even small fish gets something anyway.

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But even though the whales have millions in their pockets that doesn't mean that we have to be pessimistic, maybe we can get profit with the right strategy, because in trading all possibilities can happen. When the whales make waves, we can take advantage of it as a profit opportunity, if we can read the market and are patient enough to see opportunities, it could be possible.

When whales play with big waves small fish should stay behind and take what is smaller than whales pay attention to. It is a first step, to understand your role in the market and follow it. If you find a correct strategy for your role you can get a relatively good income. If some try to pretend other's roles they'll more likely lose because a small fish can never do the same thing as a whale. But whales will hardly fight for what they consider as trifle and what can be valuable for small fish, and that's why even small fish gets something anyway.

One of the things that I have learned in trading and investing is that when the whales buy we as taders must be like those little fish that go next to the whale and not go against its movements, because if the whale meets with a little fish in the movement against it will not hesitate to eat it, while the little fish that go with the whale by their side will always be safe, this translates into:

-If the whales buy, we buy,

-If the whales sell, we sell,

But these things are not so easy to see, we must have the conviction of when we should do it.

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But these things are not so easy to see, we must have the conviction of when we should do it.

That's right, if the first step is to understand that we are a small fish and need a strategy of a small fish, the next step is to find that strategy of a small fish, try to guess what whales are going to do. We are too small to start our own waves but we can try to guess when a wave is going to use it to get some income. It is very hard because whales are not interested in explaining us what do they want and being predictable as well. But there's no other way for a small fish to get some income.

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Everybody have their own choices of looking for money both in crypto currency and in bitcoin,some persons prefer holding while some person's like to trade daily,it all depends on your choice as an individual,and what you want to do,but the reason so many person's like holding is simply because it has no risk involved,and all it's needed is one being able to exercise patience.I love holding my coin but at the same time there are sometimes when one needs to just act fast if he sees that the market will be favourable,that is what puts me in trading,I trade when I have calculated the risk involved,and I make sure I trade when I won't loose,but make profits.
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the most important thing is don't forget to save the assets you bought in your wallet. don't leave it on the exchange. for long term holding, it is better to focus on Bitcoin. and just ignore Altcoins, even if they are top 10 marketcap. because in the next few years, we will never know what will happen to the projects where we put money. what happened to FTX and Luna should teach us many lessons for choosing a project.

I also try not to keep the coins on the exchange for a long time, when I have such a need, I try to keep it no more than a few days. I feel much more relaxed when my coins are stored in my wallet. And lately I'm more inclined to the fact that I like the hold more, bitcoin in a reliable wallet gives me confidence and a restful sleep. Trading has its benefits, but sometimes it takes too much of my time.
I have a big problem leaving my coin on exchanges because of 2hat had been happening these days seeing exchanges cashing and customers losing the money because of mismanagement of these exchanges and hack attempt. Well is is nit easy to hold for a long time especially for those of us that have a lots of things to do with money.
 The rich are the ones that can buy coin and leave it for many years because they don't have anything they are doing with the fund. An average man would always want to sell when he makes some profits from the market to available market volatility which can affect the price of the coin.









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April 17, 2023, 05:13:59 PM
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I agree with your advice to new traders that they should only use the amount of money they can afford to lose. This is a very important aspect of risk management and can help you avoid potential financial problems.
Regarding the use of a percentage of the fund for trading, this can be individual for each trader, as everyone has different trading goals and strategies. However, it is generally recommended not to use more than 10-20% of your fund for trading in order to minimize the risk of losses. The rest can be used for long-term investment or portfolio diversification. But, again, this may depend on individual factors such as experience, strategy, and comfort level with risks.
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April 17, 2023, 05:37:26 PM
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But even though the whales have millions in their pockets that doesn't mean that we have to be pessimistic, maybe we can get profit with the right strategy, because in trading all possibilities can happen. When the whales make waves, we can take advantage of it as a profit opportunity, if we can read the market and are patient enough to see opportunities, it could be possible.

When whales play with big waves small fish should stay behind and take what is smaller than whales pay attention to. It is a first step, to understand your role in the market and follow it. If you find a correct strategy for your role you can get a relatively good income. If some try to pretend other's roles they'll more likely lose because a small fish can never do the same thing as a whale. But whales will hardly fight for what they consider as trifle and what can be valuable for small fish, and that's why even small fish gets something anyway.

One of the things that I have learned in trading and investing is that when the whales buy we as taders must be like those little fish that go next to the whale and not go against its movements, because if the whale meets with a little fish in the movement against it will not hesitate to eat it, while the little fish that go with the whale by their side will always be safe, this translates into:

-If the whales buy, we buy,

-If the whales sell, we sell,

But these things are not so easy to see, we must have the conviction of when we should do it.


You need to have good knowledge of this kind of strategy. I mean, following the whales is tough. They can quickly
change their direction, meaning to say that you can quickly lose your money.

But same with that logic, you need to go with the flaw, but with full conviction you need to have a big nerve to take the risk of moving like the whale.

good catch here is when you successfully read the patterns, the profits for sure are decent to huge.
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April 17, 2023, 06:29:32 PM
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Everybody have their own choices of looking for money both in crypto currency and in bitcoin,some persons prefer holding while some person's like to trade daily,it all depends on your choice as an individual,and what you want to do,but the reason so many person's like holding is simply because it has no risk involved,and all it's needed is one being able to exercise patience.I love holding my coin but at the same time there are sometimes when one needs to just act fast if he sees that the market will be favourable,that is what puts me in trading,I trade when I have calculated the risk involved,and I make sure I trade when I won't loose,but make profits.
Holding has it own risk, the risk involved in holding is that it might lose its value while holding. But i agree with you that everyone has different approach as regard profit taking in the crypto market. For me i will say follow what suit you best. Not everyone has that patience to hold an asset for a long time and also not everyone has the discipline to know when to trade and when not to trade.

Since every player in the crypto industry have their own strength and weakness it is best to focus more on where the strength lies and improve on it. One who has the patience to hold stick to holding and those who have the skill to flow with the market trend stick to trading the end goal is to make profit.
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April 17, 2023, 07:06:35 PM
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Does holding works? Yes it is but you should only hold crypto or specific asset that is currently trending why it is so? because if you hold non trending coin or asset then your investment can be considered as wasteful because your money is not making money. Your money is your asset and it can give you huge rewards if you will put it on trending cryptos and different assets. I also not advise people to do holding or put their money that the market situation is bearish because that strategy is the worst thing that you could ever do.

Remember that during the bearish market, the price is continuing to decline because a lot of market participants are experiencing panic and the possibility of your money to depreciate is very high. Holding is the best strategy that you can do when the bull market arrives because the prices are keep increasing that keeps you giving returns without doing anything.
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April 17, 2023, 10:20:15 PM
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Holding has it own risk, the risk involved in holding is that it might lose its value while holding. But i agree with you that everyone has different approach as regard profit taking in the crypto market. For me i will say follow what suit you best. Not everyone has that patience to hold an asset for a long time and also not everyone has the discipline to know when to trade and when not to trade.
It's true that some people can't hold their assets much longer because of different reasons from their own economy situation or they just simply not patience enough to do so. But majority of people wants to hold it for long-term purpose so choosing the right asset is a must to ensure the process goes without much trouble, Bitcoin is one of the coin out there that is qualified for this purpose because of the behavior of Bitcoin.

You need to have good knowledge of this kind of strategy. I mean, following the whales is tough. They can quickly
change their direction, meaning to say that you can quickly lose your money.
Following others strategies are common in trading especially if they don't know how to it by themselves, the big minus about this one is that you won't learn anything.

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It's true that some people can't hold their assets much longer because of different reasons from their own economy situation or they just simply not patience enough to do so. But majority of people wants to hold it for long-term purpose so choosing the right asset is a must to ensure the process goes without much trouble, Bitcoin is one of the coin out there that is qualified for this purpose because of the behavior of Bitcoin.
Is there even a right coin out there aside bitcoin?
Yeah, some might say the established coins like ETH, BNB and the rest of them. Yeah, those could work and you can as well own a few but, it comes with less assurance as will bitcoin. Them alts can only give you 1/10th of wat you could benefit from hodling bitcoin as, most of them at the very least depends on the turbulence of bitcoin to have its market direction. That's how powerful bitcoin is and bitcoin remains the most trusted and truly decentralized currency out there in the cryptospace.

Altcoins goost is always going to be a pump and dump. When you think of hodling, always relate to bitcoin.

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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but use just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advise a trader to use?
I am replying quite late but you are totally right. We should not put all of our money in one go, instead, we should perform DCA (as you said) but the percentage depends on the capital of each individual. Like if I have only 200$ then I would like to hold or trade only. because with this money, I will get fewer profits if i am involved in both holding and trading. But if I have 2000$ then I might make a DCA plan, like 50% for holding and 30% for trading, and 20% for buying at dips. Yeah, as I said putting all of your money into the market is not wise, because sometimes there come such beneficial entry points in the market but due to no fiat most of people could not take benefit out of it.

The rich are the ones that can buy coin and leave it for many years because they don't have anything they are doing with the fund. An average man would always want to sell when he makes some profits from the market to available market volatility which can affect the price of the coin.
That's why holding is mostly performed by the ones having jobs or a great amount of money because they know that, their daily expenses can be met by their monthly or weekly income which is confirmed so they can accumulate their fiat and then can invest it any assets like real estate or Bitcoin (depending upon their mindset). But traders have to meet their daily expenses with their profits of trades plus if they want to hold they have to save money.

good catch here is when you successfully read the patterns, the profits for sure are decent to huge.
Ok, let's say i read the patterns successfully by using automatic tools, or by speculating news from Twitter's influencers, or by observing the order book manually. i came to know that, Whales had interfered in the market and Now the thing which came to mind is, How to react? because as LUCKMCFLY said, we should not go against the whales instead we should follow them. My query is, they move too fast that sometimes we are left behind, and we can't follow them. In that situation, what we can do except going against them because doing it, is not wise able by LUCKMCFLY? Then how can we make decent huge profits?

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the most important thing is don't forget to save the assets you bought in your wallet. don't leave it on the exchange. for long term holding, it is better to focus on Bitcoin. and just ignore Altcoins, even if they are top 10 marketcap. because in the next few years, we will never know what will happen to the projects where we put money. what happened to FTX and Luna should teach us many lessons for choosing a project.

I also try not to keep the coins on the exchange for a long time, when I have such a need, I try to keep it no more than a few days. I feel much more relaxed when my coins are stored in my wallet. And lately I'm more inclined to the fact that I like the hold more, bitcoin in a reliable wallet gives me confidence and a restful sleep. Trading has its benefits, but sometimes it takes too much of my time.

Can I just ask you when you hide your bitcoin in your wallet? Is it in Electrum or Hardware wallet? Right now, because I don't have a hardware wallet, I keep bitcoins in Electrum first and the other bitcoins are in exchanges like Binance to be used for day trading anyway.

    With this method that I am doing so far so good anyway. I have been doing this for several years, as long as electrum has any updates,
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April 17, 2023, 11:38:24 PM
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Everybody have their own choices of looking for money both in crypto currency and in bitcoin,some persons prefer holding while some person's like to trade daily,it all depends on your choice as an individual,and what you want to do,but the reason so many person's like holding is simply because it has no risk involved,and all it's needed is one being able to exercise patience.I love holding my coin but at the same time there are sometimes when one needs to just act fast if he sees that the market will be favourable,that is what puts me in trading,I trade when I have calculated the risk involved,and I make sure I trade when I won't loose,but make profits.
Holding has it own risk, the risk involved in holding is that it might lose its value while holding. But i agree with you that everyone has different approach as regard profit taking in the crypto market. For me i will say follow what suit you best. Not everyone has that patience to hold an asset for a long time and also not everyone has the discipline to know when to trade and when not to trade.

Since every player in the crypto industry have their own strength and weakness it is best to focus more on where the strength lies and improve on it. One who has the patience to hold stick to holding and those who have the skill to flow with the market trend stick to trading the end goal is to make profit.
Holding is something that would be only worth on coins which are really that sitting on top rankings like Bitcoins and some top altcoins like ETH ADA SOL or whatever included on top #20 i would consider out but the

rest is something that you should be wise on trying out considering that not all coins is really worth holding for.You should really know on when to sell and when you should set goals or targets so that you wont really
be that ending up on regretting that you didnt sell on.

There are really that coins which are really that worth to hold for and there are ones which arent really that good for long term or simply good for short term.
You should know on how to differentiate.
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April 20, 2023, 06:57:57 PM
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There has never been a time that holding is not better that any day trading when it comes to bitcoin investment.
Though it is easier said than done. It takes a serious minded bitcoin investor to hold for a long time till the bull run period.
A simple strategy for the holding possibilities to me is 30 70. Out of 100% trading fund, i will trade with 30% and invest 70%. And hold till the bull run.

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April 20, 2023, 07:54:00 PM
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I agree that it's important for newbie traders to use only the amount of money they can afford to lose when trading. It's also important to have a long-term perspective and not get too caught up in short-term price movements.

Regarding the percentage of funds a trader should use for trading, I think it depends on their experience and risk tolerance. For a newbie trader, I would advise using no more than 10-20% of their funds for trading and the rest for holding. However, for a more experienced and risk-tolerant trader, they may choose to use up to 50% of their funds for trading. Ultimately, it's up to the individual to assess their own risk tolerance and make a decision accordingly.
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.
Not only beginners, everyone should also set a standard of the amount of money they can afford to lose trading, the difference is that people who already understand trading know what to do for the next return.

We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.
When it comes to altcoins I agree because conditions are difficult to predict, but it's a different matter when we choose bitcoin and there are many reasons that make us survive. Buy and hold the bitcoins that we have until we reach the cycle we want and it doesn't need much consideration because we will see the cycle in each period that occurs and I think the opportunity is in the next year.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
For bitcoin I still try to hold everything and no percentage on trades because I like the long term. Of course I also have to set up reserve capital to accumulate purchases when prices are low and when conditions are good I can take a buy-in approach. The 20% strategy in trading is also good when people can control and see the movement, but it's difficult for me to control and that's why I prefer long term.

For this year we can be patient and of course we hope that the cycle will go according to the previous calculation and to avoid excessive worry, we just need to be patient and wait for this process to occur.

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April 20, 2023, 10:30:12 PM
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I agree that it's important for newbie traders to use only the amount of money they can afford to lose when trading. It's also important to have a long-term perspective and not get too caught up in short-term price movements.

Regarding the percentage of funds a trader should use for trading, I think it depends on their experience and risk tolerance. For a newbie trader, I would advise using no more than 10-20% of their funds for trading and the rest for holding. However, for a more experienced and risk-tolerant trader, they may choose to use up to 50% of their funds for trading. Ultimately, it's up to the individual to assess their own risk tolerance and make a decision accordingly.
When you do have that zero knowledge then it would really be just that understandable that you should learnt up things on a slow steady pace on which you could really be able to realize things whether those mistakes and errors is something that you could be able to handle with time. Dont rush up yourself because this had been always the case on why there are people who do really end up on committing lots of losses
just because they are really hurrying up on being profitable.

If you arent that finding not good on making some active dealings or actions then holding would be much better and something more wiser to be done rather than on forcing yourself on dealing up with
things and doesnt mind about the risks involved.We cant really just hasten up the situation according to our likings and thats how reality works.

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the most important thing is don't forget to save the assets you bought in your wallet. don't leave it on the exchange. for long term holding, it is better to focus on Bitcoin. and just ignore Altcoins, even if they are top 10 marketcap. because in the next few years, we will never know what will happen to the projects where we put money. what happened to FTX and Luna should teach us many lessons for choosing a project.

I also try not to keep the coins on the exchange for a long time, when I have such a need, I try to keep it no more than a few days. I feel much more relaxed when my coins are stored in my wallet. And lately I'm more inclined to the fact that I like the hold more, bitcoin in a reliable wallet gives me confidence and a restful sleep. Trading has its benefits, but sometimes it takes too much of my time.
A very good point about not keeping your assets in exchange it is safer when your assets are in your care and remember not your keys, not your coin, that is where plenty of people are getting it wrong, once any exchange decides to foldup then a lot of people will be left with nothing and you have to abide by these policies if you want to use their service efficiently, and holding bitcoin gives you that assurance of your assets not going anywhere, during the bear, not all coins survived it but despite everything, bitcoin is still standing strong what happened with FTX should be a lesson to many.

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A very good point about not keeping your assets in exchange it is safer when your assets are in your care and remember not your keys, not your coin, that is where plenty of people are getting it wrong, once any exchange decides to foldup then a lot of people will be left with nothing and you have to abide by these policies if you want to use their service efficiently, and holding bitcoin gives you that assurance of your assets not going anywhere, during the bear, not all coins survived it but despite everything, bitcoin is still standing strong what happened with FTX should be a lesson to many.

My friends lost 2000$ in FTX and then we become so careful with holding fund in any Cex. Before FTX i used mostly Binance to store my assets and i was thinking that Binance is secure exchange and Binance failed then whole market will crash but when FTX drama happened its give us lesson not to hold any addet in Cex you want to hold for long term. I used many times FTX exchange and fortunately when FTX ruined my ftx wallet was empty.

Now i am using Hardware to store BTC and many other altcoins. One of the biggest problem with hardware is storing new Blockchain network and it takes some time to update new network.

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the most important thing is don't forget to save the assets you bought in your wallet. don't leave it on the exchange. for long term holding, it is better to focus on Bitcoin. and just ignore Altcoins, even if they are top 10 marketcap. because in the next few years, we will never know what will happen to the projects where we put money. what happened to FTX and Luna should teach us many lessons for choosing a project.

I also try not to keep the coins on the exchange for a long time, when I have such a need, I try to keep it no more than a few days. I feel much more relaxed when my coins are stored in my wallet. And lately I'm more inclined to the fact that I like the hold more, bitcoin in a reliable wallet gives me confidence and a restful sleep. Trading has its benefits, but sometimes it takes too much of my time.
A very good point about not keeping your assets in exchange it is safer when your assets are in your care and remember not your keys, not your coin, that is where plenty of people are getting it wrong, once any exchange decides to foldup then a lot of people will be left with nothing and you have to abide by these policies if you want to use their service efficiently, and holding bitcoin gives you that assurance of your assets not going anywhere, during the bear, not all coins survived it but despite everything, bitcoin is still standing strong what happened with FTX should be a lesson to many.

A lesson that being learned the hard way. It is a good information to always remember that using exchange is good but keeping
your asset inside any exchange a risk.

Like what you have mentioned, not your wallet also not your coin, exchange can be strong today and can breakdown tomorrow. We don't know what the future can it be.

Always be mindful with all the information and make sure you learn from each experienced that you've got.
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A very good point about not keeping your assets in exchange it is safer when your assets are in your care and remember not your keys, not your coin, that is where plenty of people are getting it wrong, once any exchange decides to foldup then a lot of people will be left with nothing and you have to abide by these policies if you want to use their service efficiently, and holding bitcoin gives you that assurance of your assets not going anywhere, during the bear, not all coins survived it but despite everything, bitcoin is still standing strong what happened with FTX should be a lesson to many.

My friends lost 2000$ in FTX and then we become so careful with holding fund in any Cex. Before FTX i used mostly Binance to store my assets and i was thinking that Binance is secure exchange and Binance failed then whole market will crash but when FTX drama happened its give us lesson not to hold any addet in Cex you want to hold for long term. I used many times FTX exchange and fortunately when FTX ruined my ftx wallet was empty.

Now i am using Hardware to store BTC and many other altcoins. One of the biggest problem with hardware is storing new Blockchain network and it takes some time to update new network.

Holding crypto assets on exchanges is a bad idea, but we cannot deny that centralized exchanges are part of the market and are still very important to us. Without centralized exchanges, I think it would be difficult for us to invest. I don't use CEX to store bitcoins or altcoins, but I still need to use CEX to trade, as well as convert fiat, I can't find any alternative to CEX.

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Holding is beneficial, but it needs to be particular. You must have an aim in mind as you invest, and you must sell your investment if your target changes. You must follow your heart's desire. Many people hang onto their investments when the price rises, drops, and then rises once again, only to later regret their decision. Therefore, if you are holding, you must sell it at a specific price. I won't think that holding is superior till then.
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Holding is beneficial, but it needs to be particular. You must have an aim in mind as you invest, and you must sell your investment if your target changes. You must follow your heart's desire. Many people hang onto their investments when the price rises, drops, and then rises once again, only to later regret their decision. Therefore, if you are holding, you must sell it at a specific price. I won't think that holding is superior till then.

Holding doesnt always mean that you've been having that an assurance that you would really be making profits, it would be entirely be still depending on which coins or assets you would be holding because
not all would really be that worth on holding for too long and this is why you should really be wise on which one you would be holding.Also that holding doesnt significantly means that it is really that
you dont have the knowledge, it is really just that there are people whom do really love on holding instead on dealing the price volatility on active manner. If you do see
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April 21, 2023, 10:11:00 PM
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Holding is beneficial, but it needs to be particular. You must have an aim in mind as you invest, and you must sell your investment if your target changes. You must follow your heart's desire. Many people hang onto their investments when the price rises, drops, and then rises once again, only to later regret their decision. Therefore, if you are holding, you must sell it at a specific price. I won't think that holding is superior till then.

Holding is the major reason why we keep buying coins and keeping them for when we are going to have some profits so we can sell them and look for another crypto project to hold. Trading is just amazing is different from the way we see the market entirely. 

A trader can enter the market and spend some few hours making good amount of profits from the market compared to investors that would have to hold one particular coin for a long time before the make profits from them. Although there are some coins that good profits within few minutes or hours doing volatility.









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April 21, 2023, 11:39:23 PM
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Since I got into crypto in 2016, I become a trader hoping to make alot of money from trading, I made profits though, but sincerely, it comes with lots or anxiety, stress and frustrations, after the 2020/2021 bull run, I discovers that I can no longer afford to buy most coins in their hundreds and thousands like I used to before the bull run, this is when I discovered holding is better, I began to imagine how rich I would have been by then if only held those coins I used to buy in their hundreds and thousands, until and during the bull run, I would have made alot of profit, very far much more than the profit that trading for a whole year would have made for me..

Right now, even with my experience in trading, I am more of a holder than trader, I hold over 90 percent of my crypto coins as investment, while from time to time, I do little trading with 10 percent or even less.

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A very good point about not keeping your assets in exchange it is safer when your assets are in your care and remember not your keys, not your coin, that is where plenty of people are getting it wrong, once any exchange decides to foldup then a lot of people will be left with nothing and you have to abide by these policies if you want to use their service efficiently, and holding bitcoin gives you that assurance of your assets not going anywhere, during the bear, not all coins survived it but despite everything, bitcoin is still standing strong what happened with FTX should be a lesson to many.
Taking responsibility for the safety of your coins is also not easy, most prefer to rely on the exchange, or if you take the traditional bank model, but in the end this is not the best solution, because multiple examples show us how everything can change in one day and the exchange simply closes access to your account.

Therefore, everyone who understands these risks and is ready to independently be responsible for their investments will always win. This is not as difficult as it may seem, it is not worth risking your money and keep it somewhere on exchange.
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A very good point about not keeping your assets in exchange it is safer when your assets are in your care and remember not your keys, not your coin, that is where plenty of people are getting it wrong, once any exchange decides to foldup then a lot of people will be left with nothing and you have to abide by these policies if you want to use their service efficiently, and holding bitcoin gives you that assurance of your assets not going anywhere, during the bear, not all coins survived it but despite everything, bitcoin is still standing strong what happened with FTX should be a lesson to many.
Taking responsibility for the safety of your coins is also not easy, most prefer to rely on the exchange, or if you take the traditional bank model, but in the end this is not the best solution, because multiple examples show us how everything can change in one day and the exchange simply closes access to your account.

Therefore, everyone who understands these risks and is ready to independently be responsible for their investments will always win. This is not as difficult as it may seem, it is not worth risking your money and keep it somewhere on exchange.

Yeah, we can't always trust CEX to keep our funds safe since there are lots of hacks for CEX in crypto history and not every exchange in crypto industries has terms that our funds are backed by the exchange 100%. So holding our funds in a hardware wallet is always the best option or if we don't have money to buy a hardware wallet we can always use wallets like metamask and others to keep our funds as long as we don't get tricked by scammers.


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Yeah, we can't always trust CEX to keep our funds safe since there are lots of hacks for CEX in crypto history and not every exchange in crypto industries has terms that our funds are backed by the exchange 100%. So holding our funds in a hardware wallet is always the best option or if we don't have money to buy a hardware wallet we can always use wallets like metamask and others to keep our funds as long as we don't get tricked by scammers.

First. A wallet has to be non custodial.
Second. Private key and seed phrase should be protected as much as possible so no one except you have access to it.
Third. Any interaction with a wallet should be as safe as possible: clear PC is good even if to use a cold wallet. No connections to any online projects with a wallet you hold your main balance on. Use a second address with small amount just for such purposes.

You are never 100% safe, but you can try to be as safe as it reasonably possible. Being watchful is a part of investing and holding.

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My mistake back then was not to hold Bitcoin much longer. That is way back in 2020 where it is hovering around $12k to $15k in which I have sold it for USDT. Then a week later, it pumped to $20k and up to $30k where I have missed the both.

I was too hesitant not to buy back because of the uptrend and was hoping to go even lower, but it kept skyrocketing up to almost $70k. It’s one of the hardest lessons that I have ever learned which made me started to do DCA while hovering around $30k last year. But I did made profits from my previous DCAs when BTC was hovering between $19k to $23k.

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Most of the bitcoin holders had lost huge amount of dollars in the FTX exchanges.My friend had lost over 10k dollars by his bitcoin holdings.He had decided to hold till the next halves.So he decided to hold since 2024.But due to his bad luck he hold everything in the FTX exchange.His bad luck played a major role in this FTX exchanges.It’s not only due to bad luck,But also due to scam attempts by the FTX exchange.FTX had made a drama by allow the people to send bitcoin without any fees.So the clever people only used it to transaction of the bitcoin and never hold anything for the holding.Some had loss their money by holding before the exchange had closed.
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the most important thing is don't forget to save the assets you bought in your wallet. don't leave it on the exchange. for long term holding, it is better to focus on Bitcoin. and just ignore Altcoins, even if they are top 10 marketcap. because in the next few years, we will never know what will happen to the projects where we put money. what happened to FTX and Luna should teach us many lessons for choosing a project.

I also try not to keep the coins on the exchange for a long time, when I have such a need, I try to keep it no more than a few days. I feel much more relaxed when my coins are stored in my wallet. And lately I'm more inclined to the fact that I like the hold more, bitcoin in a reliable wallet gives me confidence and a restful sleep. Trading has its benefits, but sometimes it takes too much of my time.
A very good point about not keeping your assets in exchange it is safer when your assets are in your care and remember not your keys, not your coin, that is where plenty of people are getting it wrong, once any exchange decides to foldup then a lot of people will be left with nothing and you have to abide by these policies if you want to use their service efficiently, and holding bitcoin gives you that assurance of your assets not going anywhere, during the bear, not all coins survived it but despite everything, bitcoin is still standing strong what happened with FTX should be a lesson to many.

A lesson that being learned the hard way. It is a good information to always remember that using exchange is good but keeping
your asset inside any exchange a risk.

Like what you have mentioned, not your wallet also not your coin, exchange can be strong today and can breakdown tomorrow. We don't know what the future can it be.

Always be mindful with all the information and make sure you learn from each experienced that you've got.
Making yourself that be aware on what are the events on happening around on crypto space is something that you would really be needing to know which you would really be adding up in overall experience
and awareness or knowledge you do have which is something that would really be helpful on sustaining yourself into this market. Storing up your coins into an exchange is really that risky compared
when you do store up your coins with your own wallet which is something thats more safe than on storing on an exchange.

If you do have tons of money then its better on doing that but of course you would really be putting yourself on risks.If you do make out some active trading then it would really be that
good if you do divide your funds and wont really be putting it on one place. Some do chose whether they would really be holding for long term but there are ones who do love
to trade and make their possession even more bigger.

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the most important thing is don't forget to save the assets you bought in your wallet. don't leave it on the exchange. for long term holding, it is better to focus on Bitcoin. and just ignore Altcoins, even if they are top 10 marketcap. because in the next few years, we will never know what will happen to the projects where we put money. what happened to FTX and Luna should teach us many lessons for choosing a project.

I also try not to keep the coins on the exchange for a long time, when I have such a need, I try to keep it no more than a few days. I feel much more relaxed when my coins are stored in my wallet. And lately I'm more inclined to the fact that I like the hold more, bitcoin in a reliable wallet gives me confidence and a restful sleep. Trading has its benefits, but sometimes it takes too much of my time.

Can I just ask you when you hide your bitcoin in your wallet? Is it in Electrum or Hardware wallet? Right now, because I don't have a hardware wallet, I keep bitcoins in Electrum first and the other bitcoins are in exchanges like Binance to be used for day trading anyway.

    With this method that I am doing so far so good anyway. I have been doing this for several years, as long as electrum has any updates,
I immediately do it, whatever needs to be done as its users.

I think that things here are a matter of taste, in my opinion the best is Ledger, I have not tried saving btc in Hardware, how has your experience been? I have an electrum wallet, but I have seen many hacks and the truth is something that scares, even members with great experience here in the forum, so there comes a time when all computer security tools have to be used to stay safe, here vpns and all the protocol used to enter the DeepWeb is valid when it comes to securit.

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Of course holding could be better, because holding allows us to profit. For example if you are holding bitcoins it can make you rich. Because long-term holdings in Bitcoins have high profit potential. As a result of holding we can gain a lot. You hold Bitcoin for the long term. Because this holding will give you much higher return anytime.

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Of course holding could be better, because holding allows us to profit. For example if you are holding bitcoins it can make you rich. Because long-term holdings in Bitcoins have high profit potential. As a result of holding we can gain a lot. You hold Bitcoin for the long term. Because this holding will give you much higher return anytime.

I would say only for Bitcoin, and only for a minimum period of 4 years (or at least in between 2 halving cycles). ATHs happen in between cycles, so you need to hold for at least that long.

Holding and selling on the crash after ATH is what happens to a lot of people too, so you might even say the only true strategy is to hold across THREE ATHs Smiley

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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
That's what I'm doing for awhile now. I bought some coins and I hold until I can sell at the price that I can afford. I also put some of my funds in my futures account since I have knowledge in trading. If your trading strategy is not working or your just trading with a luck, I probably disagree to trade because your futures fund will lose quickly especially if you didn't manage your risk. In this case, better to only use your funds for holding crypto.

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Of course holding could be better, because holding allows us to profit. For example if you are holding bitcoins it can make you rich. Because long-term holdings in Bitcoins have high profit potential. As a result of holding we can gain a lot. You hold Bitcoin for the long term. Because this holding will give you much higher return anytime.
I always expect the best from spot trading, and I trade in order accordingly to the trading seasons. If it's the bear season, that's where I'll buy and keep bitcoin, and when the bull season arrives, that's when I'll sell. Holding is completely stress-free, and in a very tight circumstance, we negotiate to make substantial profits. Holding is my method; profits may take time, but they are well worth it. I accumulated some bitcoin and kept it in my portfolio for the long term; I just checked it a couple of weeks ago and I'm in profit.

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July 12, 2023, 08:59:35 PM
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Of course holding could be better, because holding allows us to profit. For example if you are holding bitcoins it can make you rich. Because long-term holdings in Bitcoins have high profit potential. As a result of holding we can gain a lot. You hold Bitcoin for the long term. Because this holding will give you much higher return anytime.
I always expect the best from spot trading, and I trade in order accordingly to the trading seasons. If it's the bear season, that's where I'll buy and keep bitcoin, and when the bull season arrives, that's when I'll sell. Holding is completely stress-free, and in a very tight circumstance, we negotiate to make substantial profits. Holding is my method; profits may take time, but they are well worth it. I accumulated some bitcoin and kept it in my portfolio for the long term; I just checked it a couple of weeks ago and I'm in profit.
Holding Bitcoin is highly profitable because if you look at the longterm holder chain and weekly chart price of Bitcoin you will see that their longterm holder are increresing in past year . It is very good news for longterm holder and myself would suggest that if you want to hold a Crypto currency you should choose Bitcoin because there is an expectation that its price would not experience a major dump until the next halving event. Holding Bitcoin can bring great profits and it will also instill in you the belief that you have made a proper investment in your assets.

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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Bitcoin price is very low right now. I think it is high time to buy bitcoin. If anyone want to invest on bitcoin that will be profitable there has no doubt. If you think it is risky then you can do DCA it is best policy for long time investment. And i like your advice to invest we will use 20% of our fund. And 80% for holding. It is great policy. I am also agree with your thinking. I also think all fund shouldn’t use for trading. Some fund should trade and some fund should hold is best policy.

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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Bitcoin price is very low right now.
not sure mate if Bitcoin truly VERY LOW right now because bitcoin even fall to 15k recently or couple months ago so basically it is in the middle price right now.
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I think it is high time to buy bitcoin. If anyone want to invest on bitcoin that will be profitable there has no doubt.
in this you are correct because the timing of buying for me is perfectly now and not in the coming months or weeks.
it might be very volatile but the chance changing each time so accumulate now .
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If you think it is risky then you can do DCA it is best policy for long time investment. And i like your advice to invest we will use 20% of our fund. And 80% for holding. It is great policy. I am also agree with your thinking. I also think all fund shouldn’t use for trading. Some fund should trade and some fund should hold is best policy.
holding meaning we must buy before hand , so if you are only using your 20% to buy and hold then what does 80% stands and mean then?

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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Bitcoin price is very low right now. I think it is high time to buy bitcoin. If anyone want to invest on bitcoin that will be profitable there has no doubt. If you think it is risky then you can do DCA it is best policy for long time investment. And i like your advice to invest we will use 20% of our fund. And 80% for holding. It is great policy. I am also agree with your thinking. I also think all fund shouldn’t use for trading. Some fund should trade and some fund should hold is best policy.
That's how it should be because when funds are not managed properly, it will end badly too,
using all the funds to trade then it is very risky because the possibility of losing money is very large and in the end you have nothing,
Bitcoin for long term investment is very feasible and no need to think twice about investing in Bitcoin.



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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

That is the best advice I would give anybody that wants to start trading. Don't start with using all your money at once, better to split it up and have different goals for your portfolio in mind. Putting the majority of our money into a wallet for longterm holding is a good idea. Looking back at the Bitcoin market we can see that HODL is a strong strategy, that outperformed many active traded strategies over the last 5 years. The main drawback of HODL is that we don't generate any income in the long periods of holding our coins. For any profit we would need to sell some of our coins. That is why it's good to combine a HODL strategy with an active trading strategy, so that we can generate some returns in the meantime. Using a 20/80 split for our money for longterm HODL is a good approach at the start. Once we are making some returns from our trades, we can use that money to either grow our active crypto portfolio or our HODL wallet. Personally, I use my gambling and trading profits to keep adding to my bitcoin wallet for longterm storage, to ensure that I am getting closer to my goal to own 1 BTC one day. And any new fiat money that I invest in crypto currencies is for trading or gambling to generate more shortterm returns.
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Bitcoin price is very low right now. I think it is high time to buy bitcoin. If anyone want to invest on bitcoin that will be profitable there has no doubt. If you think it is risky then you can do DCA it is best policy for long time investment. And i like your advice to invest we will use 20% of our fund. And 80% for holding. It is great policy. I am also agree with your thinking. I also think all fund shouldn’t use for trading. Some fund should trade and some fund should hold is best policy.
That's how it should be because when funds are not managed properly, it will end badly too,
using all the funds to trade then it is very risky because the possibility of losing money is very large and in the end you have nothing,
Bitcoin for long term investment is very feasible and no need to think twice about investing in Bitcoin.
Things like that really need to be considered too because money is managed properly then the results will be good too,
trading itself is full of risks so when we use all the available funds for trading it is clear that the risk is big,
for long term investment top coin is still a viable and safer choice.

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In the words of George Soros, "It’s not whether you’re right or wrong, but how much money you make when you’re right and how much you lose when you’re wrong".  All we need to do is make money. So far, it has always been the diamond hands making the most of the market because they hold, so holding is best.
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Holding can indeed be said to be better than trading, because the level of risk we receive is much smaller than trading,
but just be sure if holding without the right strategy and analysis then holding will be a disaster,
because we will never know what the price will be an altcoin in the future, will it reach ATH or even ATL.

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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
I think for beginners to trade 20% of their fund is much and it is risky for them, it will be better if 2 or 5% is used for trading. 20 % is huge for beginners who  don't have experience and knowledge. Trading is very risky, I think trading must be done with amount one can afford to lose, and staring small in trading is not bad just to get experience and knowledge which can later help on how to trade big. Beginners needs to master trading with small fund for better trading experience.

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July 15, 2023, 10:47:50 PM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Bitcoin price is very low right now. I think it is high time to buy bitcoin. If anyone want to invest on bitcoin that will be profitable there has no doubt. If you think it is risky then you can do DCA it is best policy for long time investment. And i like your advice to invest we will use 20% of our fund. And 80% for holding. It is great policy. I am also agree with your thinking. I also think all fund shouldn’t use for trading. Some fund should trade and some fund should hold is best policy.
That's how it should be because when funds are not managed properly, it will end badly too,
using all the funds to trade then it is very risky because the possibility of losing money is very large and in the end you have nothing,
Bitcoin for long term investment is very feasible and no need to think twice about investing in Bitcoin.
Things like that really need to be considered too because money is managed properly then the results will be good too,
trading itself is full of risks so when we use all the available funds for trading it is clear that the risk is big,
for long term investment top coin is still a viable and safer choice.
An active trader would really be ending up on being a holder if he do caught himself on the peak on a certain coin that he's dealing with.  Grin This is most likely the case on which if you do rush up on being that short 

or active trader but the coin you've been trading with did make out some dump then you wont really be having no choice but to hold your position and you would be ending up on a being a holder but if not then you would really be making some cut losses which is something that not recommendable on doing so. Holding into something which it would really be worth for long term like Bitcoin and some top altcoins in the market would really be that ideal but of course not all would really be giving out that kind of positive results because no one really knows on what would he future looks like.

Hold if you do see that it would be worth and trade it and having that buy and sell actively if you could be able to do so, not all would really be that good on this one and this is why
skills and capability would really differ on each other.

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but just be sure if holding without the right strategy and analysis then holding will be a disaster, .

Holding doesn't require any serious strategy or analysis. All that is required is to store your Bitcoin off of centralised platforms (exchanges) and also take your security very seriously.

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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
I think for beginners to trade 20% of their fund is much and it is risky for them, it will be better if 2 or 5% is used for trading. 20 % is huge for beginners who  don't have experience and knowledge. Trading is very risky, I think trading must be done with amount one can afford to lose, and staring small in trading is not bad just to get experience and knowledge which can later help on how to trade big. Beginners needs to master trading with small fund for better trading experience.
I think for beginners 10% is more than enough because trading is so risky,
with a lack of knowledge and experience I think they need to focus on that first,
don't be hasty and expect to make a big profit.

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Holding doesn't require any serious strategy or analysis. All that is required is to store your Bitcoin off of centralised platforms (exchanges) and also take your security very seriously.

I disagree, if you say that the hold does not require any strategy and analysis, then in your opinion it means that you can buy bitcoin at any price, even for 60k and just wait, and this should make you rich? Any successful trader or investor should be able to analyze the market to determine the best time to buy, without which it will not be possible to avoid mistakes.

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Holding doesn't require any serious strategy or analysis. All that is required is to store your Bitcoin off of centralised platforms (exchanges) and also take your security very seriously.

I disagree, if you say that the hold does not require any strategy and analysis, then in your opinion it means that you can buy bitcoin at any price, even for 60k and just wait, and this should make you rich? Any successful trader or investor should be able to analyze the market to determine the best time to buy, without which it will not be possible to avoid mistakes.
Yeah that's true, We should watch carefully situation of market and each global news of finance, never do something stupid for entry market in each price, trader should know "Buy the dip and sell at the high" do things like DCA and analyze coin which targeted investment for long term, but the most important knowing when out of the market and when entry the market ,at least Preventive first to making our emotional feel peace

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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
I think for beginners to trade 20% of their fund is much and it is risky for them, it will be better if 2 or 5% is used for trading. 20 % is huge for beginners who  don't have experience and knowledge. Trading is very risky, I think trading must be done with amount one can afford to lose, and staring small in trading is not bad just to get experience and knowledge which can later help on how to trade big. Beginners needs to master trading with small fund for better trading experience.
I think for beginners 10% is more than enough because trading is so risky,
with a lack of knowledge and experience I think they need to focus on that first,
don't be hasty and expect to make a big profit.

Yeah, just feel the market and allow yourself to learn. There are many factors that you need to understand while you are
in this type of investment.

Either you want to hold and wait or you want to play around and take the risk of trying to trade while the market is active.

The chance is always possible to earn. It's just on you if how you will interpret the situation and how willing you are in taking the risk
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It depends on what one speacializes at.Some are exceptional good at leverage trading while others are expert in holding one just need to go with what suit him best.Personally I do both for now and have made consistent profits from it.For now I am selling my Btc cause we could see a dump soon and I am also shorting it with a small leverage on an exchange.

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Of course we have to accept that we will invest the amount of money we can lose. When an newbie person is attracted to investment, he should be aware that he has to observe various cycles before investing his money. When an investor starts his business he needs to acquire that immense knowledge so that he can earn from it and gain experience. Those of us who invest in bitcoins hold on patiently and wait until the bull market. We know that Bitcoin market halving starts basically every four years and these days we leave our money in a particular wallet. And we throw it away as a lost money so that it will bring good profit in future. But in case of a newbie it is not at all investing with patience if done with patience good earnings are possible in future. So when we invest and trade we must do it with patience so that there is less chance of facing loss in future.

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It depends on your trading strategy and the results you are getting from it. If you are really good at trading then I will say you can use 30 - 40% to trade and then the rest for holding. The idea is to reduce the losses and if you find out you can't do that then you should just keep holding.

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