'Bitcointalk forum is going downhill because of dkbit98' - CoinPayCard.net SCAM

[dkbit98]

Can someone please translate and explain to me what writer wanted to say?

If I understand correctly, member CoinPayCard.net  is saying that Bitcointalk forum is going down the hill because of me and users like me.
He claims that companies don't want to advertise here because of people asking them questions like me.
But I am part of 10% of forum, and 90% are good users, but 10% is making forum go down the hill.
90% of my posts are worthless and bring no value to forum.

He also said I am a bit of delusion?!  
He claimed that I ask the same questions 100 times.

I can only conclude that CoinPayCard.net is saying that I am the main reason for destruction of Bitcointalk forum, but miracle happened and CoinPayCard.net  came to save the forum from evil.

You are a bit of delusion, it thinks. I have answered your question more than clear i this topic: shorturl.at/mxELN[/b] Your question had also absolute nothing to do with the service we provide.

And this is what your private message state, as you refer to it. Nothing of significant. If you gave us time, we would have responded to your request to test our cards for free.

But unfortunately, you just post random stuff and giving a neutral (negative) feedback because you expect different answers. It's unfortunate, because if I go true your comments on this platform, I see that you do that a lot. 90% of your comments have absolutely no value to bring this forum up, and I believe because of users like you that this forum is going downhill. Because slightest things can trigger you asking the same and same questions 100 times and making your own unfounded opinion that something is not good, untrustworthy or simple not possible without doing any research at first. This is the same reason why companies also don't see this forum fit to advertise, because of your continued negative attacks on anything people post.

It is absolute good to question tings, but when you personally are not satisfied with the answer giving, you keep ranting random things.

I'ts unfortunate because 90% of the users here are great, giving good options or questions and do research before commenting 100 times on a topic.

Your personal message.
"Hi.

Do you know when Bitcoin and Litecoin willl be added onCoinPayCard.net website?
I am interested in testing when this happens.

Cheers."

Sorry everyone for being so strong to bring down this forum with my 10% evil fellow members.
I hope things will be better for good companies in 2023, and they don't have to answer any questions at all.

Note that all spam, off-topic, consecutive posting, and all other posts breaking forum rules will be deleted by moderator.

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[LoyceMobile]

I've seen this behaviour before, and it's typically the ones without good intentions that don't like logical questions.
A personal attack instead of answers, that just tells you he's full of shit.
I've unfollowed his topics, it's pointless.

[Stalker22]

Can someone please translate and explain to me what writer wanted to say?

I, and my robotic friend who knows a lot about these things, will try to help you. Here you go:

You seem to be deluded, in my opinion. I have already clearly answered your question in this topic: shorturl.at/mxELN Your question had nothing to do with the service we provide.

As you mentioned in your private message, you requested to test our cards for free. If you had given us time, we would have responded to your request. However, you have been posting random things and giving neutral (negative) feedback without any basis. It is unfortunate, because based on your comments on this platform, it seems that you do this a lot. In my estimation, 90% of your comments do not contribute any value to this forum, and I believe that users like you are causing this forum to decline. Your tendency to ask the same questions repeatedly and make unfounded opinions without doing any research is causing companies to view this forum as an inappropriate place to advertise.

It is important to question things, but when you are not satisfied with the answer given, it is not productive to continue ranting about unrelated topics.

On the other hand, 90% of the users here are great, providing valuable opinions or asking well-researched questions.

Did you get it now?

Sorry everyone for being so strong to bring down this forum with my 10% evil fellow members.
I hope things will be better for good companies in 2023, and they don't have to answer any questions at all.

Oh no, it is a shame that good companies have to suffer because of users like you, who ask so many pesky questions. How do you not know that they should be able to do whatever they want without any accountability or scrutiny? 

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

sounds like a malicious tackle, but it makes me feel so bad that they find your questions so troublesome for them rather than a means to provide a better answer that helps others better understand their service and security. I have got to understand that team members who sometimes sound like that (respond in such a manner) are working on projects that sometimes run from their culpability.

It seems they are trying to save themselves some trouble with your questions. 

[suchmoon]

I've been wondering why this advertising forum is going to shit, and here is our answer. OP, you should be ashamed. Stop questioning these honest scams, this is not a place to discuss things.

[dkbit98]

I've seen this behaviour before, and it's typically the ones without good intentions that don't like logical questions.
A personal attack instead of answers, that just tells you he's full of shit.
I've unfollowed his topics, it's pointless.

Yeah, I will stop responding and writing anything in their topics.
It's obvious to me that this member has before been registered in bitcointalk forum, maybe with some other failed or scam project.
I said that initially I really wanted to test their cards, everyone can see that in my first post on their topic, but I soon realized something just isn't right.

Did you get it now?

Thanks for translation.
He is obviously using some translator and he can't speak normal English language.

Oh no, it is a shame that good companies have to suffer because of users like you, who ask so many pesky questions. How do you not know that they should be able to do whatever they want without any accountability or scrutiny?  

I can be harsh sometimes asking questions to new companies, but I don't think this was the case here.
I never insulted anyone personally, but instead I received bunch of personal attacks.
Good for everyone that I developed much thicker skin in last few years

I've been wondering why this advertising forum is going to shit, and here is our answer. OP, you should be ashamed. Stop questioning these honest scams, this is not a place to discuss things.

I don't know if they are a scam and never claimed that, but there is something not right about all this.
I say good luck to them, and in return I receive interesting new year message from them.

[NeuroticFish]

I've tried to re-formulate one of your questions when this was in same guy's topic in Service Announcements.
His answer was weak, plus he started threatening that he'll lock the topic, so I didn't pay more attention to that topic.
I see now that he has more topics on his service and still trying to avoid some questions.

On this problem you're right (to pursue the truth) and his behavior is shady.

It's obvious to me that this member has before been registered in bitcointalk forum, maybe with some other failed or scam project.

It can very well be the case. I've seen another user too doing this type of service and spawning new topic one after another as soon as the questions have become difficult.


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Thanks for bringing this back into attention. I've also edited my initial post there (I usually try to be nice/supportive for new businesses and this one is yet another one not deserving it).

[LoyceV]

Now that I'm back at my laptop, I can quote again. I think this guy is an exit scam waiting to happen. Instead of answering simple questions, he evades them. Then he gets irritated and blames others:

You keep asking the same question

He kinda got stuck in his lies and can't keep them consistent:

a public list of wallets involved in hacks and theft

Where can I find this public list?

There is something called google

So you have nothing. Noted.

I don't have a list on demand, as we are connected with 3rd parties that provide these lists and updated them according to law.

So he uses a public list, but doesn't have a list and uses unknown "third parties". AKA the ones that promote taint, but in this case, it's more likely to be BS.

He loves buzzwords:

by law enforcement worldwide.

Sounds legit, right? Some sort of magic worldwide internet police that an anonymous website works with!

we don't share our card issuer, that is private information.

Now imagine this: a worldwide Visa card without KYC from an anonymous card issuer! I can think of so many reasons why this is shady.

That tactic works though: there's no point in "discussing" something with this person, so he'll just repeat whatever again, or open a new topic (which I reported as "duplicate topic"). Let me try ones more.

For cases like this, in Service Announcements, I post, delete it, and post again. That removes my "mini bump". I don't like shady topics to reach the top because of warnings.

[CoinPayCard.net]

A self-moderated topic, very transparent of you. Are you scared that other users will be honest to you? I have received private messages even from legendary users, that are agreeing with me.

If you can’t understand an explanation that’s on you, I won’t explain everything in detail like you are a 10 year old baby who doesn’t understand how crypto works yet is on a crypto forum.

And yes you don’t understand how crypto works, I’ve ask told you multiple times that you cannot blacklist coins you can only blacklist crypto wallets. It’s a shame that you are on a crypto forum thinking you are right and you csn blacklist coins individually.


Also you keep asking questions about how you can use stolen coins to use our service. That, to me says that you are doing something shady and illegal. Only thieves would make it theirs mission to find out more information how to avoid these preventions.

[NeuroticFish]

And yes you don’t understand how crypto works, I’ve ask told you multiple times that you can blacklist coins you can only blacklist crypto wallets. It’s a shame that you are on a crypto forum thinking you are right and you csn blacklist coins individually.

So you say that if some coins from Blacklisted address A are sent to address B and then to you they're absolutely fine, because they're not from a blacklisted address/wallet.
You're telling big words, but it looks like it's you who doesn't understand much.

I have received private messages even from legendary users, that are agreeing with me.

This is a good one

[CoinPayCard.net]

And yes you don’t understand how crypto works, I’ve ask told you multiple times that you can blacklist coins you can only blacklist crypto wallets. It’s a shame that you are on a crypto forum thinking you are right and you csn blacklist coins individually.

So you say that if some coins from Blacklisted address A are sent to address B and then to you they're absolutely fine, because they're not from a blacklisted address/wallet.
You're telling big words, but it looks like it's you who doesn't understand much.

I have received private messages even from legendary users, that are agreeing with me.

This is a good one

I’m not going to reply to any questions regarding stolen funds anymore. The most simple answer I can give you. We don’t accept stolen money, if you do use them we send them back. End of story.

[FatFork]

I’m not going to reply to any questions regarding stolen funds anymore. The most simple answer I can give you. We don’t accept stolen money, if you do use them we send them back. End of story.

It's simple - if you want to show that you're credible, just provide some solid proof to back up what you're saying and add some weight to your arguments. This is especially important when you're trying to persuade someone to part with their money.

For example, it would be helpful if you could specify the sources you use when making statements such as, 'It's not hard to google blacklisted wallets.' ^[1] As you are discussing serious matters, it is important to provide reliable sources, rather than just using a general search engine like Google. However, if you are really relying on the Google to identify blacklisted wallets, it raises serious questions about the legitimacy of your business.

Furthermore, this statement: 'Blacklisted wallet can be found on public lists, provided to the crypto community by law enforcement worldwide' ^[2] absolutely needs a reference to show where the information came from. Without a reference, it is difficult for readers to determine the credibility and reliability of the information being presented, which can negatively impact the perception of your business as reliable and trustworthy.

[1] - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5431878.msg61524064#msg61524064
[2] - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5431878.msg61515830#msg61515830

[LoyceV]

if you want to show that you're credible, just provide some solid proof

That's a big "if". I wouldn't hold my breath after this response:

you are a 10 year old baby

Very mature. And very common for people who see their scheme fall apart.

[dkbit98]

So you say that if some coins from Blacklisted address A are sent to address B and then to you they're absolutely fine, because they're not from a blacklisted address/wallet.

Oh no... don't tell him this top secret information...
Boss said it's End of story, so you are not allowed to ask him any more questions or doubt his words.
You must always fully trust his words because he is working with worldwide law enforcement space agency  
I can't wait to see who are those mysterious legendary members who are allegedly supporting him, but I can already guess myself.
If he can reveal unanswered message I sent him, let's see what other legendary members wrote him.

It's simple - if you want to show that you're credible, just provide some solid proof to back up what you're saying and add some weight to your arguments. This is especially important when you're trying to persuade someone to part with their money.

He said it's End of his story, so please don't ask him any more questions and requests.
Let him complete his scheme in peace.

Very mature. And very common for people who see their scheme fall apart.

Now he accused me that I am a thief who is doing shady illegal stuff, so I see his personal insults are getting bigger towards me all the time.
Sounds like something legitimate businesses are doing all the time  

End of story.

PS
It's very convenient that ''someone'' registered new account iLoveBtt today and his first post was in that revolutionary service topic ... sounds legit:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3526680

[CoinPayCard.net]

if you want to show that you're credible, just provide some solid proof

That's a big "if". I wouldn't hold my breath after this response:

you are a 10 year old baby

Very mature. And very common for people who see their scheme fall apart.

This shows you inflate ego on this platform, just cutting a sentence in half to get the wording you need to cry baby.
This was the full sentence: "If you can’t understand an explanation that’s on you, I won’t explain everything in detail like you are a 10 year old baby who doesn’t understand how crypto works yet is on a crypto forum."

I’m not going to reply to any questions regarding stolen funds anymore. The most simple answer I can give you. We don’t accept stolen money, if you do use them we send them back. End of story.

It's simple - if you want to show that you're credible, just provide some solid proof to back up what you're saying and add some weight to your arguments. This is especially important when you're trying to persuade someone to part with their money.

For example, it would be helpful if you could specify the sources you use when making statements such as, 'It's not hard to google blacklisted wallets.' ^[1] As you are discussing serious matters, it is important to provide reliable sources, rather than just using a general search engine like Google. However, if you are really relying on the Google to identify blacklisted wallets, it raises serious questions about the legitimacy of your business.

Furthermore, this statement: 'Blacklisted wallet can be found on public lists, provided to the crypto community by law enforcement worldwide' ^[2] absolutely needs a reference to show where the information came from. Without a reference, it is difficult for readers to determine the credibility and reliability of the information being presented, which can negatively impact the perception of your business as reliable and trustworthy.

[1] - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5431878.msg61524064#msg61524064
[2] - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5431878.msg61515830#msg61515830

Our service is around debit cards, not stolen coins. I don't see why we should answer how our business operate internally regarding stolen funds. Can you ask a bank how to handle money launders? No.

Normally we won't share the 3rd party we work with, but here you go: https://www.coinbase.com/compliance

[LoyceV]

just cutting a sentence in half

No need to quote unnecessary words, the scope stays the same.

Our service is around debit cards, not stolen coins. I don't see why we should answer how our business operate internally regarding stolen funds.

In case you really don't know: lately, many services have frozen users' funds for various reasons, which can be summarized by the word "taint". It can be stolen, or gambling, or mixed, or anything else they don't like. It's always based on "third parties" without any evidence, and it's usually used to confiscate the funds.
OP isn't worried that he stole funds, he's worried that anyone can be accused of owning "stolen funds", and there's nothing you can do about it. That's why fungibility is so important.

[CoinPayCard.net]

just cutting a sentence in half

No need to quote unnecessary words, the scope stays the same.

Our service is around debit cards, not stolen coins. I don't see why we should answer how our business operate internally regarding stolen funds.

In case you really don't know: lately, many services have frozen users' funds for various reasons, which can be summarized by the word "taint". It can be stolen, or gambling, or mixed, or anything else they don't like. It's always based on "third parties" without any evidence, and it's usually used to confiscate the funds.
OP isn't worried that he stole funds, he's worried that anyone can be accused of owning "stolen funds", and there's nothing you can do about it. That's why fungibility is so important.

And we said clearly in our response in the Announcement topic, that coins coming from gambling and mixers can be used without issue. And when a user should use a blacklisted wallet, that the funds will be refunded to the user who sends those coins. 

We also said that it's impossible for regular users to have a blacklisted wallet. As 99.99% of those blacklisted wallets are affiliated with, for example hacks on exchanges.

[LoyceV]

And when a user should use a blacklisted wallet, that the funds will be refunded to the user who sends those coins. 

That doesn't sound like you're following Coinbase's compliance at all.

[CoinPayCard.net]

And when a user should use a blacklisted wallet, that the funds will be refunded to the user who sends those coins. 

That doesn't sound like you're following Coinbase's compliance at all.

And again a post without any points.
Here Coinbase quoted:

• Screen risky crypto transactions to ensure regulatory compliance
  Monitor transaction and user risk as your business scales

In baby language, Coinbase Compliance helps us to determine the source of any funds. Coinbase does not hold, block or freeze these funds. We follow our own policy.,

[digaran]

The most simple answer I can give you. We don’t accept stolen money, if you do use them we send them back. End of story.

So if you have a chance at identifying a possible hacker/thief and alert the authorities you just send them back the stolen coins? Seems untrustworthy behavior.