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December 29, 2023, 12:15:51 PM
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So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.
Surprisingly, these bad results continue even when facing the lowest teams which should be a guarantee for Al Ettifaq to be able to end the previous bad results so in total in eight matches in the Saudi pro league Al Ettifaq has never won once, this is a very bad record.
Just like you who asked why Steven Gerrard wasn't fired, maybe that's what many people are thinking, especially Al Ettifaq fans, who hope that this team can perform well with several well-known names who were also quite good players in their previous team, and in the next three matches this team will still continue to experience bad results because their three opponents are quite good teams, against Al Hilal and Damac it is very possible for them to lose, while against Al Khaleej a draw is probably the best result that Ettifaq can achieve.
Gerrard doesn't seem to have found a suitable playing rhythm for Al-ettifaq. The players he chose to bring to Al-ETtifaq also don't seem to be able to contribute optimally in every match. There is a deadlock in their game performance. And yes, in the next match Al-ettifaq has the potential to lose points again. Because Al-Khaleej is much stronger than Al-Hazm. So if Al-ETtifaq hasn't changed and improved then they won't be successful in the next match. But if Al-ettifaq improves then they will definitely be able to beat Al-Khaleej. And actually the match against Al-Khaleej is a good opportunity for Al-ettifaq to collect points. Because after this match Al-ettifaq has the potential to lose points when facing Al-hilal and Damac. Gerrard will definitely think hard this time. Because his career at Al-ETtifaq will also be threatened if he continues to fail to get points.
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December 29, 2023, 12:16:02 PM
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I don't know whether clubs from the Saudi Professional League ever care about their financials and whether money has some impact on their decisions, but I am quite sure that Steven Gerrard has a fabulous contract that makes him rich in any case. If they fire him, he probably is entitled to a huge severance pay, if they keep him, it is the same.

Maybe they are still hoping for better times to come with him and they don't really know who would be an appropriate alternative if they fire him. Are the players good enough actually and is Gerrard not to blame for everything that is going wrong?
Why is it that most of these EPL players that have it difficult to explore their chances of becoming best coaches in this present era of football? Is crucial situation we ought to be concerned about, but instead the coaches we're hearing are the old coaches that have been in the system for long and there's definitely nothing new about them other than watching the same repeating strategy over and over again, most of them have retired and giving opportunities to the young coaches that have not gather enough experience to deal with the challenges they have. Steven Gerrard was keen on achieving quite important ambition in his long promising managerial role as a coach. Gerrard have issues in dealing with the new club, finding it really hard to blend with the system.

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December 29, 2023, 12:21:36 PM
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Why is it that most of these EPL players that have it difficult to explore their chances of becoming best coaches in this present era of football?
This fact is not new and being a legendary player and being a legendary coach are very different. In history there are very scarce people who can be both legendary player, then achieved the same in coach career. Very few super star players can achieve that and star players from Premier League in the era of Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard, Kean are not different.

Some players even stated clearly that they did not want to become coaches because it is too stressful for them. Maybe with their experience as star players, with their past conflicts with coaches, they understood how hard a coach management life is.

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Steven Gerrard was keen on achieving quite important ambition in his long promising managerial role as a coach. Gerrard have issues in dealing with the new club, finding it really hard to blend with the system.
Not only Gerrard but Roy Kean, Rooney and Lampard have yet achieved great things in their coach career. Moving to Saudi Professional League is not the end for Gerrard career and he can take Xavi as an example. Xavi moved to Qatar but returned to Barcelona and won La Liga with them in the last season.

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December 29, 2023, 12:27:56 PM
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Not only Gerrard but Roy Kean, Rooney and Lampard have yet achieved great things in their coach career. Moving to Saudi Professional League is not the end for Gerrard career and he can take Xavi as an example. Xavi moved to Qatar but returned to Barcelona and won La Liga with them in the last season.
The Saudi Pro League are mainly not for some mediocre coaches, it's build for clubs that have stand their ground and will do anything to survived and stand firm on ground. The reason why these young coaches in the system are not doing well is basically clear and simple, they don't learn from the appropriate managers, we look at failing coaches like Wayne Rooney, Vincent Kompany despite bringing Burnley to EPL back but they're still going to be relegated because they couldn't meet up. Then for better mentorship, look at Mikel Arteta who learnt from Pep Guardiola how to manage a full elite team, although he's not succeeding but he's trying more than others. You're right about that, I would blame most of these players that are trying to further their career by aiming to becoming a potential coach, when we know fully well that they don't have what it takes to survive in the space.

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December 29, 2023, 01:12:08 PM
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Since Al Hilal hired Neymar they couldn't use this player a lot and he was mostly injured.
Even during the summer when Neyamr joined Al Hilal he was injured and couldn't help the team, that's why they are even about to see another player and spend even more money on another player to take his place.
However, even without Neymar Al Hilal has perfect performance, they are currently at the top of the table with a huge gap.
They want now to hire Junya Ito the Japanese player of Reims, but he is still under contract with his team until 2026.


They can break the contract and pay fee if they really want to have the player. Junya Ito is a very talented player from Japan and we already see what Kaoru Mitoma can do in Premier League with Brighton. Junya Ito also shown himself well with his national team in World Cup 2022 and at lower levels like in Saudi Professional League, I don't think he will get big problems to play in Saudi Arabia.

He also had good experience with Asian football by playing for Japanese clubs and his national team many years. Al Hilal will have to convince the player and it is most important to make this transfer happens. Maybe Junya does not want money but want to achieve something for his career. Chance for him to move to bigger clubs in Europe looks not too big so if he decides to leave Europe and joins Saudi Professional League, with a biggest club there, it's not bad decision.

I'm not sure how much money Al Hial should spend for Junya Ito to release this player but this player is worth 10 million in the transfer market and surely Arsenal will even try harder to keep him in the team.
Regardless of that, I don't think if Junya Ito will ever accept play for Al Hial because he is still a young player and he can play for the top European team for years, also he is in a good situation in Arsenal and they are racing for the premier league and Champions League, which means there is not the reason for him to accept this offer unless they offer a huge amount of salary and change his mind.

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December 29, 2023, 01:22:02 PM
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So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.
Steven was a garbage coach. how the hell ishe doing in the ettifaq? gerrard was the worst coach and no doubt that there's no EPL club that was willing to recruit him anymore to be a new coach It's caused by gerrard has no passion to become a new coach.
The ettifaq has very stupid management and this may become the main reason why ettifaq was not expelling him from the club. If i was the management of club the i have sacked him a few weeks ago.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.
They were not enough but the main concern must be this club has no chemistry. They were playing inconsistently in any match. People are starting to doubt with the future of gerrard in ettifaq.

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December 29, 2023, 01:34:11 PM
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I don't know whether clubs from the Saudi Professional League ever care about their financials and whether money has some impact on their decisions, but I am quite sure that Steven Gerrard has a fabulous contract that makes him rich in any case. If they fire him, he probably is entitled to a huge severance pay, if they keep him, it is the same.

Maybe they are still hoping for better times to come with him and they don't really know who would be an appropriate alternative if they fire him. Are the players good enough actually and is Gerrard not to blame for everything that is going wrong?
Why is it that most of these EPL players that have it difficult to explore their chances of becoming best coaches in this present era of football? Is crucial situation we ought to be concerned about, but instead the coaches we're hearing are the old coaches that have been in the system for long and there's definitely nothing new about them other than watching the same repeating strategy over and over again, most of them have retired and giving opportunities to the young coaches that have not gather enough experience to deal with the challenges they have. Steven Gerrard was keen on achieving quite important ambition in his long promising managerial role as a coach. Gerrard have issues in dealing with the new club, finding it really hard to blend with the system.
But in fact, being a great player and also a club legend does not make the player successful when he becomes a coach and as with Steven Gerrard, I think there are quite a lot of failed coaches from England. Let's just say that those who have worked as professional coaches, such as Frank Lampard and Wayne Rooney, have all failed in managing a club and this continues to create a bad record for their careers as coaches.

Now Steven Gerrard, who has also expanded to the Saudi league and become coach of El-Ettifaq, is also felt to be less capable of handling the squad of European players they have. Even though the competitive level of the league is still far from the EPL and he failed to at least bring Al-Ettifaq to the top 4 of the Saudi league. Actually the system is not as complicated as other top European leagues and the system in the Saudi league should be much easier for a coach, so I don't think that's an excuse.

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December 29, 2023, 03:17:42 PM
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Al Hilal is having its match now, 15 minutes in the score is still 0-0. Looking at their opponents, this should not be a difficult match for them to win and make them stronger at the top of the table. Despite being the visitors, we know what their strengths are and Feiha is not an equal opponent for them.
Al Hilal immediately took the initiative to take over the game and did not allow Feiha to develop its game. Al Hilal are the only unbeaten club so far in the league, so I highly doubt Feiha can hand them their first defeat, especially now that Al Hilal are also in control of the situation even though no goals have been scored. I predict at least 3 goals for Al Hilal.

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December 29, 2023, 05:12:16 PM
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I dont know what really happen with Neymar and the "injury" he have, because he announced not so much time ago, he is not gonna play the next America cup in the united state with Brazil, wich is really strange to see because is so much time to recover from his injury, i think he made again a mistake in the recovery so the injury is gonna last longer.

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December 29, 2023, 05:19:43 PM
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Al Hilal is having its match now, 15 minutes in the score is still 0-0. Looking at their opponents, this should not be a difficult match for them to win and make them stronger at the top of the table. Despite being the visitors, we know what their strengths are and Feiha is not an equal opponent for them.
Al Hilal immediately took the initiative to take over the game and did not allow Feiha to develop its game. Al Hilal are the only unbeaten club so far in the league, so I highly doubt Feiha can hand them their first defeat, especially now that Al Hilal are also in control of the situation even though no goals have been scored. I predict at least 3 goals for Al Hilal.
Full time and Al Hilal managed 2-0 from Al Feiha, this victory make Al Hilal success unbeaten 19 matches and make gap 10 points behind Al Nassr but has one match more. Its crucial victory for Al Hilal need waiting until 86th minutes for scoring first goals trough Ali Albulayhi and Aleksandar Mitrović scored one goals trough penalty kick on additional time.
First time for Al Hilal need waiting longer time for getting victory against Al Feiha with teams current standings on 12th position, usually Al Hilal easy for winning more than two goals and make goals on the first half but the victory make Al Hilal keep comfortable on the top standings position awhile.

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December 29, 2023, 05:20:36 PM
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I dont know what really happen with Neymar and the "injury" he have, because he announced not so much time ago, he is not gonna play the next America cup in the united state with Brazil, wich is really strange to see because is so much time to recover from his injury, i think he made again a mistake in the recovery so the injury is gonna last longer.

This is Neymar's problem, namely discipline. There were even rumors he was throwing parties while he was recovering. This may interfere with the healing period of the injury. It's not just Brazil that suffers. Now the club is the one who suffers the most when he is very new to Saudi and ends up having a long injury. He hasn't shown his role at the club yet. It would be a shame if Neymar would suffer a very long injury.









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December 29, 2023, 06:09:37 PM
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Al-Raed vs Abha match was very hard fought. Al-Raed team won this match with 4 goals. On the other hand, Abha team scored 3 goals. H. Al-Ali scored the first goal in the first 17 minutes of the game. On the other hand, Al-Raed team scored 3 goals.  Team player K. M. Al Subaie scored 1 goal in 21 minutes.M.  Fouzair scored the 2nd goal in the 46th minute.K.  El Berkaoui scored the 3rd goal in 50 minutes.O.  Gonzalez scored the 4th goal at 90+7 minutes.

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December 29, 2023, 06:29:43 PM
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Full time and Al Hilal managed 2-0 from Al Feiha, this victory make Al Hilal success unbeaten 19 matches and make gap 10 points behind Al Nassr but has one match more.
Al Hilal is the only club in the Saudi league that will give Al Nassr challenges this season to win the league. The point difference for them and Al Nassr is really good.

Maybe they are still hoping for better times to come with him and they don't really know who would be an appropriate alternative if they fire him. Are the players good enough actually and is Gerrard not to blame for everything that is going wrong?
Steven Gerrard was not doing well, he was even sacked from his former club, and hasn't had any great result as a coach, but the Saudi's just wanted to sign a popular name to their club. Such a pity that he has been unable to deliver the expected result, at least his move to the club was able to influence some other players to club like Henderson from Liverpool.

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December 29, 2023, 06:59:05 PM
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Full time and Al Hilal managed 2-0 from Al Feiha, this victory make Al Hilal success unbeaten 19 matches and make gap 10 points behind Al Nassr but has one match more.
Al Hilal is the only club in the Saudi league that will give Al Nassr challenges this season to win the league. The point difference for them and Al Nassr is really good.
Al Hilal is increasingly unstoppable in the competition to win the SPL title this season even though their challengers Al Nassr continue to try to catch up on the number of points in every match.

Al Hilal's achievement after beating Al-Fayha with two goals, reminded me of Neymar's insignificance at this club apart from making Al Hilal's name famous because it has a Neymar.
Al Hilal is very grateful to Mitrovic who is their most prolific goal scorer and is the strongest candidate to beat Ronaldo as SPL's top scorer.
Do you feel that?

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December 29, 2023, 07:32:37 PM
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Full time and Al Hilal managed 2-0 from Al Feiha, this victory make Al Hilal success unbeaten 19 matches and make gap 10 points behind Al Nassr but has one match more.
Al Hilal is the only club in the Saudi league that will give Al Nassr challenges this season to win the league. The point difference for them and Al Nassr is really good.
The difference in points currently looks very large after Al Hilal successfully scored 2 scores to beat Al Feiha.
Meanwhile, today Al Nassr has a slightly tough opponent, such as Al Taawon, which is famous for its strong defense and if in this match Al Nassr fails to win, maybe Al Hilal will no longer be the strongest challenger for Al Nassr because the current point difference is around 10 points and If Al Nassr fails, it is certain that the final leader of the season will be Al Hilal, who has been very strong since the start of season until today.
I predict that the match between Al Taawon and Al Nassr will end in draw with a narrow score.

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December 29, 2023, 07:39:36 PM
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The Saudi Pro League are mainly not for some mediocre coaches, it's build for clubs that have stand their ground and will do anything to survived and stand firm on ground. The reason why these young coaches in the system are not doing well is basically clear and simple, they don't learn from the appropriate managers, we look at failing coaches like Wayne Rooney, Vincent Kompany despite bringing Burnley to EPL back but they're still going to be relegated because they couldn't meet up. Then for better mentorship, look at Mikel Arteta who learnt from Pep Guardiola how to manage a full elite team, although he's not succeeding but he's trying more than others. You're right about that, I would blame most of these players that are trying to further their career by aiming to becoming a potential coach, when we know fully well that they don't have what it takes to survive in the space.
Coaching is one field that requires its own kind of tutorial and not trying to enmass your footballing tactics inside the world of coaching. If you check, most of the coaches falling short of their jobs are the mostly footballs who turned into coaches overnight, We still have some past footballers who are doing well such as Xabi Alonso and his Leverkusen side; we’ve also got Arteta and his Arsenal side. From this 2 coaches one thing is common in both; learning, tutorship. They both had to lay aside footballing talent and go to learn afresh and that’s why they’re doing well

 Most of this failed footballer turn coach thinks running to Saudi League will be a better option, I think the earlier they realize the Saudi League isn’t what we know before as lowclass, the vetter for them; especially with the recruitment of European stars to the league; that’s a big boost to the league’s status talk more of how composed the clubs there will be playing.

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December 29, 2023, 08:14:01 PM
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Franck Kessie saved Al-Ahli's face from a draw against Al-Khaleej after he managed to score the only goal in this match in the 90+7 minute which made the match score end with 1-0. This is an important victory, especially since Al-Ahli is the host and the support from the fans who come can produce commensurate results. The additional 3 points make Al-Ahli's hopes of continuing to stay in 3rd position in the standings and continue to overshadow Al-Nassr with only a difference of 3 points.

This is also an impressive record for Al-Ahli, after 7 matches they have never lost at all. Al-Ahli continues to progress and they have managed to maintain their current performance amidst increasingly fierce competition and at least they don't need to be afraid of slipping because Al-Taawoun who are shadowing them are still quite far away with a difference of 6 points.

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December 29, 2023, 08:34:42 PM
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Full time and Al Hilal managed 2-0 from Al Feiha, this victory make Al Hilal success unbeaten 19 matches and make gap 10 points behind Al Nassr but has one match more. Its crucial victory for Al Hilal need waiting until 86th minutes for scoring first goals trough Ali Albulayhi and Aleksandar Mitrović scored one goals trough penalty kick on additional time.
First time for Al Hilal need waiting longer time for getting victory against Al Feiha with teams current standings on 12th position, usually Al Hilal easy for winning more than two goals and make goals on the first half but the victory make Al Hilal keep comfortable on the top standings position awhile.
Again, Al Hilal showed us that they have no strong competitor in SPL this season. The point gap is surely 10 points now and they are still undefeated until matchday 19. Al Nassr seems difficult to overtake the points if Al Hilal can play consistently until the end of the season. This season is simply for Al Hilal, they have a great season. Mitrović scored again in the match against Al Feiha, he continues to increase his total goal to compete for the top scorer in SPL. No doubt that Mitrović is very shining with Al Hilal, he becomes a very productive striker.

I think there is no problem although Al Hilal seems not very easy to win the match. The most important thing that they succeed to get full points to maintain their position in the top of SPL. As long as they could get full points, it means they are safe to finish this season with a title. Well, if Al Hilal wins the title, it is very unfortunate for Ronaldo. He again fails to win the SPL title.


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December 29, 2023, 09:29:53 PM
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Franck Kessie saved Al-Ahli's face from a draw against Al-Khaleej after he managed to score the only goal in this match in the 90+7 minute which made the match score end with 1-0. This is an important victory, especially since Al-Ahli is the host and the support from the fans who come can produce commensurate results. The additional 3 points make Al-Ahli's hopes of continuing to stay in 3rd position in the standings and continue to overshadow Al-Nassr with only a difference of 3 points.

This is also an impressive record for Al-Ahli, after 7 matches they have never lost at all. Al-Ahli continues to progress and they have managed to maintain their current performance amidst increasingly fierce competition and at least they don't need to be afraid of slipping because Al-Taawoun who are shadowing them are still quite far away with a difference of 6 points.
Fortunately, Al Ahli was able to win and successful securing three points, although their goal was scored in the last minutes but that match was very tight. Kessie saved Al Ahli pride in front of his supporters, if he couldn't score through this penalty shot, maybe their fans would feel very disappointed, but fortunately Kessie didn't disappoint at all.
That's right, now Al Ahli have a good record in their last 7 matches. Their performance is quite consistent, so they can still overshadow Al Nassr in the table standings.
The gap between Al Ahli and Taawon is currently difference of 6 points, yes indeed quite far away. Also, tomorrow Taawon will face against Al Nassr. It looks like I think Taawon have little chance to getting three points perfectly in that match.

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December 29, 2023, 09:41:56 PM
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Full time and Al Hilal managed 2-0 from Al Feiha, this victory make Al Hilal success unbeaten 19 matches and make gap 10 points behind Al Nassr but has one match more. Its crucial victory for Al Hilal need waiting until 86th minutes for scoring first goals trough Ali Albulayhi and Aleksandar Mitrović scored one goals trough penalty kick on additional time.
First time for Al Hilal need waiting longer time for getting victory against Al Feiha with teams current standings on 12th position, usually Al Hilal easy for winning more than two goals and make goals on the first half but the victory make Al Hilal keep comfortable on the top standings position awhile.
Again, Al Hilal showed us that they have no strong competitor in SPL this season. The point gap is surely 10 points now and they are still undefeated until matchday 19. Al Nassr seems difficult to overtake the points if Al Hilal can play consistently until the end of the season. This season is simply for Al Hilal, they have a great season. Mitrović scored again in the match against Al Feiha, he continues to increase his total goal to compete for the top scorer in SPL. No doubt that Mitrović is very shining with Al Hilal, he becomes a very productive striker.

I think there is no problem although Al Hilal seems not very easy to win the match. The most important thing that they succeed to get full points to maintain their position in the top of SPL. As long as they could get full points, it means they are safe to finish this season with a title. Well, if Al Hilal wins the title, it is very unfortunate for Ronaldo. He again fails to win the SPL title.



The worst and most boring part about Al-Hilal is how little resistance they experience from their opponents. Al Feiha didn't have one shot on target and during the full 90+ minutes they had two shots (not even on target though!). I don't know but this season will be a boring one and Al-Nassr disappointed a lot of those fans that were hoping for them to win the title. Ronaldo will probably score the most goals this season, but they won't have a chance to close the gap again and have a say in the fight for the title.

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