Why is it becoming a thread for casinos refusing paying very huge winnings?

[AbuBhakar]

Some gambling site may not be able to afford that amount of money even if they want to sell their gambling company. Some may want to try and pay lower amount and see if it would work.

That amount is huge and it the best is for it to lead to lawsuit. If the casino can not pay, they will give the woman a better offer in a way the money will still be huge but not up to the amount won, but if the woman do not agree, it will lead to a court case. The woman would win as long as he has been abiding the gambling site rules and something good will come out of it.

That's true, but the thing is woman still need money for her to file a lawsuit right? if they don't agree with each other maybe a lawsuit will be a good way, so we can which side says the truth, if the company is guilty I am sure they will stop their business just to give the woman's money if not, that woman will need to pay for the casino for causing a false accusation maybe libel. We really need a casino who has integrity over the money they will get from running casinos.

Hiring a lawyer that will handle case like this will be expensive since he will be the one who will file the case against the casino and also there’s no hard evidence that the woman win the jackpot price while the machine is not malfunctioning that time. This will take a lot of time and money for the woman to win the case and there’s no guarantee for it. This is what makes the casino confident since they can always do a settlement with lower price once the woman side is near to win the case.

The only way for the woman to win this without spending too much money is too finds a law firm that do a pro bono case to intimidate the casino to settle him early.

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[erep]

That's true, but the thing is woman still need money for her to file a lawsuit right? if they don't agree with each other maybe a lawsuit will be a good way, so we can which side says the truth, if the company is guilty I am sure they will stop their business just to give the woman's money if not, that woman will need to pay for the casino for causing a false accusation maybe libel. We really need a casino who has integrity over the money they will get from running casinos.

The woman should consult her legal experts before going to court, she should make sure that the evidence she has will win the lawsuit so that there is no risk of a counterclaim for defamation. But I'm sure the company has anticipated preventing the case from going to court, they will negotiate to pay the woman even if it doesn't match the winning amount or maybe tens of thousands of dollars to cover the case.

[serveria.com]

May be this is not the case and this time the machine malfunctioned, but I've heard stories of casinos and bookies refusing to pay winnings. Most of the time they're are accusing customers of trying to scam casino/bookie. In this particular case they're trying to blame it on a technical glitch/malfunction? Not nice.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Before playing, gamblers must agree to the terms and conditions of the casino,

Was this the reason why she wasn't paid? According to the story?
You seee, it's quite unfair when you try to paint stories the way it suits your explanations, and it's obviously different from the subject in question. Do you think I'm hearing an issue like this for the first time? Oh dear, these gender-based inequality must get to stop someday -- especially when it falls into the hands of a man who thinks we had every authority to undone whatever has been done. I made the experiences crystal clear on my first post.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[el kaka22]

There are some individuals who claimed this and I understand that it has been a bit more common in here and there, but that's more about us hearing more about it now than it happening more these days.

I think the amount of times it happened is exactly the same and has not increased at all, I think this has happened before and it has been the same amount of times, but this time around we are hearing more about it and that's a lot more important. That's why it's quite important to keep it going with the reputation topics and increasing the importance of bitcointalk, because it's not just about crypto, but it's also about keeping casinos responsible for all their actions.

[Mahanton]

Before playing, gamblers must agree to the terms and conditions of the casino,

Was this the reason why she wasn't paid? According to the story?
You seee, it's quite unfair when you try to paint stories the way it suits your explanations, and it's obviously different from the subject in question. Do you think I'm hearing an issue like this for the first time? Oh dear, these gender-based inequality must get to stop someday -- especially when it falls into the hands of a man who thinks we had every authority to undone whatever has been done. I made the experiences crystal clear on my first post.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

This has nothing to do with gender imho.It was really that she hadnt gotten paid on such winning because the casino said that the machine had malfunctioned which it would really be that unfair
after you have won that amount and even took a picture of that.Based up on this situation where it has been settled based up on some people been saying about this case.
Taking up this to legal action or negotiations would really be neither be fixed up or not.This is why it is really that hard to point out on whats the truth
but it is really that suggestible that casinos should ensure their machines well and fixed most of the time.

[Wakate]

May be this is not the case and this time the machine malfunctioned, but I've heard stories of casinos and bookies refusing to pay winnings. Most of the time they're are accusing customers of trying to scam casino/bookie. In this particular case they're trying to blame it on a technical glitch/malfunction? Not nice.

We had been hearing the same stories over and over again and that is absurd to everyone that heard about different victim's stories about how they were defrauded or not paid of there winnings. I think the government need to sanctions casinos who are very fun of not paying customers there winnings giving various excuses about a system shutdown or malfunctioned machines that had lead to the gamblers making such a big amount of funds.
The casino should have serviced there machine forward before such a winning and not to at the end deceived there customers of payment.

[decodx]

Before playing, gamblers must agree to the terms and conditions of the casino,

Was this the reason why she wasn't paid? According to the story?
You seee, it's quite unfair when you try to paint stories the way it suits your explanations, and it's obviously different from the subject in question.

Obviously to whom? And, according to what story? It seems we have different sources of information.

A spokesperson for Resorts World, Dan Bank, told CNN: "Upon being notified of the situation, casino personnel were able to determine that the figure displayed on the penny slot was the result of an obvious malfunction" – a fact later confirmed by the New York State Gaming Commission.

"After explaining the circumstances to Ms. Bookman, we offered to pay her the correct amount that was shown on the printed ticket. Machine malfunctions are rare, and we would like to extend our apologies to Ms. Bookman for any inconvenience this may have caused."
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Do you think I'm hearing an issue like this for the first time? Oh dear, these gender-based inequality must get to stop someday -- especially when it falls into the hands of a man who thinks we had every authority to undone whatever has been done. I made the experiences crystal clear on my first post.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

I believe you're playing the gender inequality card incorrectly.  

[Distinctin]

Casinos refusing to pay big wins has somewhat become rampant for obvious reasons. It's great for us to know which casinos are these to serve as a heads up for us to try and avoid them. If casinos don't have the money to py for wins, why should we trust them? If they're reasons are too ridiculous and unbelievable, why would we entrust that they'll honor the next big win that might occur on their platform? For all we know they are already going under and we might be in for a treat, so as early as now it's great to spot these casinos to avoid them. That $43m win from the lady is a gut-wrenching example that these casinos can just shrug off the win and even get the authorities involved to back them up. Really hard to fight these entities and all that we can do on our end is just avoid them to let them take a hit on their profits.

So if we can’t beat them, at least we can avoid them for good. Well, that is really good for us gamblers as we spend money and end up losing most of the time so when we become lucky and get the chance to win, we will grab for it and once the casino refuse to pay, then let the court decide for them. But it’s better if we can find earlier those reputable and non-reputable casinos as we don’t have to meddle with these issues because it’s never healthy at all for our mental and emotional health.

[AmoreJaz]

Casinos refusing to pay big wins has somewhat become rampant for obvious reasons. It's great for us to know which casinos are these to serve as a heads up for us to try and avoid them. If casinos don't have the money to py for wins, why should we trust them? If they're reasons are too ridiculous and unbelievable, why would we entrust that they'll honor the next big win that might occur on their platform? For all we know they are already going under and we might be in for a treat, so as early as now it's great to spot these casinos to avoid them. That $43m win from the lady is a gut-wrenching example that these casinos can just shrug off the win and even get the authorities involved to back them up. Really hard to fight these entities and all that we can do on our end is just avoid them to let them take a hit on their profits.

So if we can’t beat them, at least we can avoid them for good. Well, that is really good for us gamblers as we spend money and end up losing most of the time so when we become lucky and get the chance to win, we will grab for it and once the casino refuse to pay, then let the court decide for them. But it’s better if we can find earlier those reputable and non-reputable casinos as we don’t have to meddle with these issues because it’s never healthy at all for our mental and emotional health.

that is the reason why it is always better to stick to reputable and big casinos that have capability to pay big winnings. though if it is offline casino, if you are not satisfied with their answers, you can really sue them, but take into consideration about the resources that you will use throughout the process. if it is online casino, you can easily post snapshots as proof and they may want to resolve it as their reputation is on the line. if you do have strong case, why not pursue legal action if you have funds to spend.

[uneng]

Casinos refusing to pay big wins has somewhat become rampant for obvious reasons. It's great for us to know which casinos are these to serve as a heads up for us to try and avoid them. If casinos don't have the money to py for wins, why should we trust them? If they're reasons are too ridiculous and unbelievable, why would we entrust that they'll honor the next big win that might occur on their platform? For all we know they are already going under and we might be in for a treat, so as early as now it's great to spot these casinos to avoid them. That $43m win from the lady is a gut-wrenching example that these casinos can just shrug off the win and even get the authorities involved to back them up. Really hard to fight these entities and all that we can do on our end is just avoid them to let them take a hit on their profits.

So if we can’t beat them, at least we can avoid them for good. Well, that is really good for us gamblers as we spend money and end up losing most of the time so when we become lucky and get the chance to win, we will grab for it and once the casino refuse to pay, then let the court decide for them. But it’s better if we can find earlier those reputable and non-reputable casinos as we don’t have to meddle with these issues because it’s never healthy at all for our mental and emotional health.

I believe you can avoid such casinos by playing at legit crypto platforms, since they won't tell you the provably fair system has malfunctions in order to deny a jackpot or withdrawal. After reading these news I'm not going to trust any land based casinos' machines before asking a casino's employee if there is any hidden term on the machine where it's written they have the right to deny a jackpot for whatever reason they want to use on the moment of the cashout by the gambler. I will also mention this report from the lady who had his prize denied by the house, with the approval of the court.

[ethereumhunter]

Casinos refusing to pay big wins has somewhat become rampant for obvious reasons. It's great for us to know which casinos are these to serve as a heads up for us to try and avoid them. If casinos don't have the money to py for wins, why should we trust them? If they're reasons are too ridiculous and unbelievable, why would we entrust that they'll honor the next big win that might occur on their platform? For all we know they are already going under and we might be in for a treat, so as early as now it's great to spot these casinos to avoid them. That $43m win from the lady is a gut-wrenching example that these casinos can just shrug off the win and even get the authorities involved to back them up. Really hard to fight these entities and all that we can do on our end is just avoid them to let them take a hit on their profits.

So if we can’t beat them, at least we can avoid them for good. Well, that is really good for us gamblers as we spend money and end up losing most of the time so when we become lucky and get the chance to win, we will grab for it and once the casino refuse to pay, then let the court decide for them. But it’s better if we can find earlier those reputable and non-reputable casinos as we don’t have to meddle with these issues because it’s never healthy at all for our mental and emotional health.

That's the point of reading the reviews already given by many members here and trying to find a good casino from this forum. We don't want to choose the wrong casino because that can give us the risk of losing money when we play gambling and if we win, they won't want to pay the winnings. But maybe if we play in a land-based casino, we can have difficulty knowing that the casino can still pay the winnings. And if we take the case to court, we also may not be able to win against the casino. And only looking for casinos that have good ratings from many people can help us find those good casinos.

[Gyfts]

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Machines paying out incorrectly happen all the time -- there's a reason for oversight. There usually isn't a trial because they're almost always civil matters and the courts have precedent on ruling in favor of casinos in the case of malfunctioning machines. The civil suits are nonsense and shut down almost immediately.

I don't consider casinos not paying out big winnings to be conflated with electronic malfunctions. They're separate discussions entirely. A malfunction is not a legitimate win therefore there isn't anything to pay out. Any land based casino would have their assets seized immediately if they were rigging machines. Casinos not paying out is almost entirely an online issue.

[Woodie]

I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

This is some life changing money in any part of the world and not to be paid after seeing the screen screaming jackpot and what not, this would be war for them with my lawyer's!

Btw if they say it's a faulty machine do they refund all players that lost money on it

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

Maybe because the people that win these jackpots buy the stories these casinos tell about faulty machines etc and choose to let them go off the hook, but had it been a high roller who has lost so much money on this same machine, they certainly wouldn't get away with it.

[gunhell16]

Before playing, gamblers must agree to the terms and conditions of the casino,

Was this the reason why she wasn't paid? According to the story?
You seee, it's quite unfair when you try to paint stories the way it suits your explanations, and it's obviously different from the subject in question. Do you think I'm hearing an issue like this for the first time? Oh dear, these gender-based inequality must get to stop someday -- especially when it falls into the hands of a man who thinks we had every authority to undone whatever has been done. I made the experiences crystal clear on my first post.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

This has nothing to do with gender imho.It was really that she hadnt gotten paid on such winning because the casino said that the machine had malfunctioned which it would really be that unfair
after you have won that amount and even took a picture of that.Based up on this situation where it has been settled based up on some people been saying about this case.
Taking up this to legal action or negotiations would really be neither be fixed up or not.This is why it is really that hard to point out on whats the truth
but it is really that suggestible that casinos should ensure their machines well and fixed most of the time.

In addition to what you said dude, the woman who won, even took a picture as her evidence just in case the gambling platform makes fun of her, and she didn't make a mistake in thinking if this was her reason if why did he take a picture not just a souvenir only.

I hope that if the woman wins the case, her case will be negotiable because the excuses of the gambling platform are obvious.

[rahmad2nd]

May be this is not the case and this time the machine malfunctioned, but I've heard stories of casinos and bookies refusing to pay winnings. Most of the time they're are accusing customers of trying to scam casino/bookie. In this particular case they're trying to blame it on a technical glitch/malfunction? Not nice.

There are many cases like this that we have discussed in the community. but in fact, we don't really know the true story or events.

I can feel how this woman felt when she won the jackpot from the slot machine she was playing, she even has proof in the form of screenshots. at least, he had high hopes when the slot machine made the million dollars he won. but in fact, the casino insists that the machine has a technical problem which somehow can happen.

what makes me curious is how this woman can get that kind of money, and how much the bet per spin is. this makes me really wonder, that maybe the machine is really broken. The problem is, has anyone ever heard that there are gamblers who win prizes of that size from a slot machine? but, however, this is only purely from my personal assessment, that what actually happened we really don't know.

[wiss19]

I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

The situation you've mentioned is certainly concerning, and it's understandable that you would have questions about why a casino would refuse to pay out such a large sum of money to a player. Without more information about the specific case you're referring to, it's hard to say exactly why the casino in question is refusing to pay out the winnings.

However, there are a few potential reasons that come to mind. One possibility is that there was a mistake or error made in the calculation of the winnings. This could be a technical error on the casino's end, or it could be an issue with the game itself. In these cases, the casino would likely investigate the issue and try to resolve it before paying out the winnings.

[nakamura12]

Not all casino can afford to pay all of that money even though we all know that casinos always win against the gamblers. Maybe they have a plan to pay that woman like a decent amount of money that they pay to the woman until all the amount that the woman won is paid fully. I also agree that there could be some sort of issue there like what wiss19 explained. If there's something wrong of it or an issue then the casino is im big trouble and lose profit because of the error (if there's any). If nothing then they will get bad reputation for not paying the woman.

[Johnyz]

Not all casino can afford to pay all of that money even though we all know that casinos always win against the gamblers. Maybe they have a plan to pay that woman like a decent amount of money that they pay to the woman until all the amount that the woman won is paid fully. I also agree that there could be some sort of issue there like what wiss19 explained. If there's something wrong of it or an issue then the casino is im big trouble and lose profit because of the error (if there's any). If nothing then they will get bad reputation for not paying the woman.

Whatever their reason is, they should not operate a business that they can’t handle and if they think they can’t afford yet to pay for a higher rewards, then better for them to set a limit on the winnings and by this, the gamblers will be more familiar about it and will not expect that much. Winning the jackpot is once in a lifetime opportunity, the gambling site should not make excuses and pay the reward, not unless the gambler violated their terms and conditions.

[alastantiger]

Casinos have laws that have made not paying winnings to gamblers legal and this is very bad. They should also have laws that would in some unique circumstance require that they return the wager. But No, it would be easier for Elon Musk to go to Mars in 2023 than for this to ever happen. Ofcourse the house would always win but the hurt and pain they cause by refusing to pay them their winnings will remain forever.