Why is it becoming a thread for casinos refusing paying very huge winnings?

[YinShuiSiYuan]

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

The comparison with players who can withdrawal money from big winnings is much bigger so the worry is unfounded and this case occurs at landbase casinos which are much more regulated than online casinos so if you don't want to experience this, ignore the casinos that have been involved, especially if can't solve the case properly and only choose trusted casinos

Choosing a trusted casino is a must for every gambler to avoid problems that can arise later.
If gamblers do not carefully choose their casino by not doing research, they can end up with untrusted casinos, which can turn into casinos that scam them.
Of course, they want to avoid that happening so they have to be really selective in choosing a casino.
If gamblers can get a trusted casino from this forum by reading the many ratings other members have given, they will not choose the wrong casino.
And later, if they win, the casino will pay the winning money without asking the winner to do anything.

That's right fraud and double crossing Is happening everywhere in this world not just any casino , we have been reading about this story now of a women who was double crossed by casino so the only solution we have is go for a trusted and licensed casino .
And before gambling go through the rules and directions of that casino for once .

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[Oasisman]

I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

Well, filling a case is not gonna be an easy journey to win it, especially when you're against someone who's business are still running while you two are on the court for the hearing and you're compromising your business/job for living for that specific day. Of course money will take a huge play in situation like this. The complainant may exhaust all his resources with all the hearings that you needed to attend, otherwise the case will drop.
Another thing is, it's a lot cheaper for the casino to just pay and bribe the authorities than paying the whole winning amount to the winner.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

It was stated that the machine malfunctioned and isn't there a claim ticket that states that the actual winnings is  $2.25 (£1.86).  The woman did not refute the decision of the casino which means it is highly possible that the malfunction is correct.  A lawsuit case comes after a year the incident which I think someone had given the woman an idea to chase the winnings.  Besides the  New York State Gaming Commission also stated that the machine malfunctioned.

A spokesperson for Resorts World, Dan Bank, told CNN: “Upon being notified of the situation, casino personnel were able to determine that the figure displayed on the penny slot was the result of an obvious malfunction – a fact later confirmed by the New York State Gaming Commission.

But of course, we never know the truth if it really malfunctioned or if someone got paid to declare the machine malfunctioned.  But I will

But if the machine malfunctioned and if the winner won $1 million or very large amount of money but instead the machine stated that she lost her money, they will not tell her anything but she will lose instead.

   -   We just don't know if the gambling owner of the gambling website platform is telling the truth. Because no matter where I look, I can't help but think that Gambling platforms don't want to pay. In addition to that, of course, if I were the gambler, I would also ask for help from a lawyer because I know if I'm in the right place to fight for my rights.

But anyway, based on the article, the gambling team is laughing that the machine is malfunctioning, even though it's obvious that it's not. Then they will say that when that happened. What if the gamblers also lost millions on their machines?

[EarnOnVictor]

I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

Well, filling a case is not gonna be an easy journey to win it, especially when you're against someone who's business are still running while you two are on the court for the hearing and you're compromising your business/job for living for that specific day. Of course money will take a huge play in situation like this. The complainant may exhaust all his resources with all the hearings that you needed to attend, otherwise the case will drop.
Another thing is, it's a lot cheaper for the casino to just pay and bribe the authorities than paying the whole winning amount to the winner.

What you have explained is the reason why online companies are doing the way they like most times, and that is why I only like to work with companies that are truly regulated. If they are, you will start the complaint from the regulator, it's when they did not act that you proceed to court. And one thing you missed is that it's not all lawyers that are collecting money for cases, they might collect a percentage if the case is successful, but you would pay for filing.

You might also pray the court to sanction the company monetarily in your favour to cater for the needless energy and time wasted if they are eventually found guilty. Sincerely, the stress might not be worth all that if the money in question is small but would be if the money is reasonable enough.

[jrrsparkles]

I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

The excuse by the casino maybe real but it doesn't mean they can ignore her winnings or atleast she should be paid a compensation like 50% if the casino proves the malfunctioning but that is what the casino do when there is some unexpected won came for an individual and the casino may bankrupt if they pay that amount.

Taking it to the legal action maybe the appropriate and every casino is somewhat regulated by the government so they should obey what laws tell them to do at certain situations.

However not every casino has such kind of shady activity, we can also read many article lottery company delivered millions of dollars to the actual winners even if they forgot about the ticket they bought and forgot to acknowledge they are the winners.

[Peanutswar]

The answer, they cannot afford to give that money easily that's time they make a lot of agreements with the players and sometimes make another reason so they cant claim the prize, but if the gambling casino is already reputable and one of the known for sure they will process those but of course still they need to comply with the KYC its a large amount of money so KYC sure is a must or having a cut with a different portion with those withdrawals.

[chaser15]

Its just dumb for a company to make excuses even if the proofs are solid enough.

But there's no solid proof that the casino cheated on the story. I doubt the casino involved can influence or bribe the officials of the New York State Gaming Commission which is the higher authority of the gambling industry there. Maybe the machine really got malfunctioned as it was verified by the Commission.

Although on the other hand, the Commission should give a big punishment to the casino involved as to why they allow such machines to be operated.

And for women's satisfaction and a form of appreciation that she understands well the case, the casino should at least give a small but solid reward to the women for the mistakes they did because, after all, they are the ones to blame for why that machine got there.

[danherbias07]

The answer, they cannot afford to give that money easily that's time they make a lot of agreements with the players and sometimes make another reason so they cant claim the prize, but if the gambling casino is already reputable and one of the known for sure they will process those but of course still they need to comply with the KYC its a large amount of money so KYC sure is a must or having a cut with a different portion with those withdrawals.

Well if that's the case "cannot afford in one full payment" then a payment plan should be offered. Not run away from it by telling other reasons like the machine malfunctioning or whatever fabricated explanation they have. I am sure the customer will still take it because that is still money although it will be received partially.
If I am on that kind of deal then I will take it without a doubt as long as the payment will be completed while I am alive or if not, my kin will receive them written in the contract just to be safe because there's a chance they will clean up their mess in an evil way. Call me crazy but it's possible.

[harizen]

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

They aren't getting away that easily. They have won the law that's why they end up winning the case.

Maybe on other stories, there are shitty ones with shitty excuses but on that story you mentioned, the case has been solved in a legal way.

In the meantime, you have to take it with a grain of salt and hope that you won't end up in that particular situation.

How nice if you would really be that someone do able to hit up some lottery jackpot but its not good to make yourself get involved on not on being paid which we know that it is really that an unfortunate condition.

Its true that the ones who could really be able to have the advantage are to those ones who do have the money or capability on turning the tables and since you are just an individual whose trying out to
take some fight with a huge company then chances might be slim but if evidences are clear and precise then it would be an another story.
Its just dumb for a company to make excuses even if the proofs are solid enough.

You have a point though depending on the given situation. On that news shared by OP, it's clear that everything was proven as malfunctioning.

The case undergoes a trial and surely, everyone does have an eye on the issue and follows the case.

When the result favored the casino, there was no mention in the news if there was a counter-complaint by some high officials or some concerned citizens who question and doubt the integrity of the result being rewarded by the court.

Again, we don't know the whole side of the story that's why we end up in different speculations. Obviously, what the casino did on that news is truly a sh*t but it was being investigated seriously by the gambling commission who handles the jurisdiction of that involved casino.

Hopefully, all cases related to that will be handled properly, and not the way that there's an obvious sh*t currently happening on the case.

[YOSHIE]

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people.

Katrina win and on the part of the casino not paying katrina win it has become popular news today among the land casino gambling industry.
As is currently the case.

Katrina Bookman thought she won $43 million on a slot machine, but the Casino had other ideas.

If you want to know more and more details and some good reasons from Katrina or the casino you can watch live here: https://youtu.be/pS4nxTGiZSo

I'm very sure, after you watch the video, all your doubts and questions can be answered, this video can help you, rather than members here, because you can hear directly from related parties.

[Eureka_07]

I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

There are excuses that are backed up and supported by evidenced and official gambling regulators. From what I've read, in this case the "malfunction" issue of the machine is verified by the regulator. However, were there any evidences, like machine logs that the casino and/or the regulator shown to the public?
This kind of excuse is normal, I'm just not quite sure about the ratio of those casino that presented real evidences.
I enjoy gambling, but things like this sometimes makes me step back as I feel the casino might cheat over me.

[famososMuertos]

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What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

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You see that thread that you reference and say "ooh, how unfair" and then you should have commented right there ( thread).
Anyway,
Casinos have a gray area and, like any other business, they rely on it to "try" to take advantage. And yes! Obviously there are cases that are a true nightmare but the law has dismissed the cases where the user is not favored, nothing to do but fortunately there are more positive than negative cases.

Casino doesn't have to pay grandmother $41M jackpot: 'I was hoping to help my children'
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/chi-iowa-casino-error-20150424-story.html

By the way another example, but that does not indicate that casinos do not pay by cheaters. In any case, when that happens, the law is the great culprit. I mean we are talking about offline casinos, right?

[348Judah]

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Since you've seen this happening it now a  call for you and every other gambler to have a second look on the kind of casino they make use of, go for their reputation and not their bonus or unrealistic promises they proclaim, research well and discover one, I don't also think if this is common or applicable to other casinos provided that you don't break their rules and the casino you are using is trusted not to be a scam one.

[GigaBit]

I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

All that casino fails to give large rewards should be identified. If there is multiple complaints against any casino, then we should make a list of such casinos. Because from there, others can be deceived. When a gambler face such a situation after rewarding in a big, the gambler can no longer be normal. This phenomenon was completely made intentionally for not paying the woman. The excuses shown in it are completely false. All these dishonest casinos must be eliminated from the good ranked list otherwise such events may happen further. This is not a small crime that deserves to forgive. If the woman wanted to take action, It would have been better for everyone. It is necessary to take care of such activities so that no one can be encouraged.

[darkangel11]

I totally disagree with you on this statement, because take a look at the image below. It wasn't stated that the machine malfunctioned. But rather what was written there was that if the machine was malfunction, then it will void all play and pay, as stated below..

 "Must be 18yrs older to play"
 "Malfunction voids all pay and play"

But the question now is, why allow users use the slot machine if truly it was malfunctioned? Because for the fact that users were allowed to use it, means they deserves their due rewards

This is like a last line of defense for the casino and allows them to use the malfunction card whenever they feel like it. You won to much? It was malfunction and we won't pay you. You saw the sign before you started playing! How can the player know if the machine is damaged before playing? If it eats the money and doesn't show any win it's fine, but if it shows a win, the casino will claim malfunction.

Imagine if you had the same thing written on any electric appliance. We aren't responsible for any damage caused by malfunctioning equipment. Your dishwasher breaks your dishes? Should have never bought it! Your pressure cooker blows up in your face? Malfunctions happen, we're not responsible. This is a bunch of bullshit.

[Cling18]

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Since you've seen this happening it now a  call for you and every other gambler to have a second look on the kind of casino they make use of, go for their reputation and not their bonus or unrealistic promises they proclaim, research well and discover one, I don't also think if this is common or applicable to other casinos provided that you don't break their rules and the casino you are using is trusted not to be a scam one.

There are some casinos that make bonuses and reward promise that they can't even afford just to attract more players. These casinos should be avoided especially those that offer rewards that are too good to be true. In choosing casinos, we should not focus on the bonuses that they offer but also on the type of service and reputation that they have.

[passwordnow]

This is like a last line of defense for the casino and allows them to use the malfunction card whenever they feel like it. You won to much? It was malfunction and we won't pay you. You saw the sign before you started playing! How can the player know if the machine is damaged before playing? If it eats the money and doesn't show any win it's fine, but if it shows a win, the casino will claim malfunction.

Imagine if you had the same thing written on any electric appliance. We aren't responsible for any damage caused by malfunctioning equipment. Your dishwasher breaks your dishes? Should have never bought it! Your pressure cooker blows up in your face? Malfunctions happen, we're not responsible. This is a bunch of bullshit.

They usually use those "trap" cards or reasonings just to avoid paying the eligible amount of their players. That's the logic there, they should have shut down any of those machines if they were malfunctioning. But not, I think it's sort of a modus operandi on their end and they've been doing that reasoning and flipping the trap cards for the poor players that should have won whatever is indicated on those screens.

[Casdinyard]

The answer, they cannot afford to give that money easily that's time they make a lot of agreements with the players and sometimes make another reason so they cant claim the prize, but if the gambling casino is already reputable and one of the known for sure they will process those but of course still they need to comply with the KYC its a large amount of money so KYC sure is a must or having a cut with a different portion with those withdrawals.

Most definitely the reason for small-time casinos but if funding problems were the case in the first place, I don't see why they wouldn't just outrightly tell the winning customer that they'd pay him/her at a later time or maybe in installments, to at least save their reputation and a court case? I think it's all about integrity here, as a Casino, they had all the power to control whether they could pay the winner or not, with all the abilities and capabilities out there there's just no sense in not paying the customer other than they're just trying to rip them off. I can see reputable sites doing this, but as for the others, not so much. Which is why it's always best to have a trusted casino rather than jumping from one to another, saves you all the trouble in the long run.

[decodx]

Before playing, gamblers must agree to the terms and conditions of the casino, which may include limits on winnings or restrictions on certain games or bets. If a player breaks these terms, the casino may not pay out the winnings. The casino wants to ensure that the win is valid and that the player has not violated any rules before paying out a large amount of money. Also, some casinos may be hesitant to hand over big payouts because they're afraid the winner might be a cheater.

Realistic expectations, strict but fair rules, and careful security procedures - this is what online casinos must provide if they want to remain popular. As we have seen, this is a delicate balance to maintain, but most reputable casinos are more than willing to meet the challenge.

[molsewid]

Some gambling site may not be able to afford that amount of money even if they want to sell their gambling company. Some may want to try and pay lower amount and see if it would work.

That amount is huge and it the best is for it to lead to lawsuit. If the casino can not pay, they will give the woman a better offer in a way the money will still be huge but not up to the amount won, but if the woman do not agree, it will lead to a court case. The woman would win as long as he has been abiding the gambling site rules and something good will come out of it.

That's true, but the thing is woman still need money for her to file a lawsuit right? if they don't agree with each other maybe a lawsuit will be a good way, so we can which side says the truth, if the company is guilty I am sure they will stop their business just to give the woman's money if not, that woman will need to pay for the casino for causing a false accusation maybe libel. We really need a casino who has integrity over the money they will get from running casinos.