Hardware Wallets that work with Smartphones?

[LoyceMobile]

Mycellium lacks basic functionality for hardware wallets: it can't verify the address on the hardware wallet itself, so malware (or bugs) can make you deposit to the wrong address.

[NeuroticFish]

Ledger Nano S - using microUSB/USB-C adapter, and Mycellium wallet (firmware can't be updated).

Blockstream Green wallet is another wallet on Android that works with hardware wallets (or at least with Ledger and Trezor), may worth adding that to the list too, especially since it's supposed to be open source.

[SFR10]

Regarding table, I am still thinking how to add basic information and still make everything easy to understand, I think you helped me last time with hardware wallet secure element table

Oh lord, I knew this was coming

• n0nce provided an example the other day and I also made one based on the other table that you mentioned, but I don't think it's good enough for what you're trying to achieve here <sup>[unless you're fine with having a very wide table (after adding the other parts)]
  - IMO, it'd be better to list them in a spreadsheet [Google Sheets], then simply take a screenshot and post it here... What do you think?</sup>

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[td][center][size=11pt][glow=black,2,300][size=12pt][b].[color=white]USB CONNECTION[/color].[/b][/size][/glow][/size][/center][/td][td][size=12pt]▩[/size][/td]
[td][center][size=11pt][glow=black,2,300][size=12pt][b].[color=white]BLUETOOTH CONNECTION[/color].[/b][/size][/glow][/size][/center][/td][td][size=12pt]▩[/size][/td]
[td][center][size=11pt][glow=black,2,300][size=12pt][b].[color=white]QR CODE[/color].[/b][/size][/glow][/size][/center][/td][td][size=12pt]▩[/size][/td]
[td][center][size=11pt][glow=black,2,300][size=12pt][b].[color=white]QR SCAN/CAMERA[/color].[/b][/size][/glow][/size][/center][/td][td][size=12pt]▩[/size][/td]
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[n0nce]

^{- IMO, it'd be better to list them in a spreadsheet [Google Sheets], then simply take a screenshot and post it here... What do you think?}[/li][/list]

In that case, I'd rather recommend https://ethercalc.net/ or another non-Google alternative. The code is open-source and you can use it without an account.

[dkbit98]

Mycellium lacks basic functionality for hardware wallets: it can't verify the address on the hardware wallet itself, so malware (or bugs) can make you deposit to the wrong address.

Hmmm this is especially important for hardware wallets that don't have support with native mobile applications.
I will have to come up with some rating system, this whole thing is much more complicated than I initially imagined.

Blockstream Green wallet is another wallet on Android that works with hardware wallets (or at least with Ledger and Trezor), may worth adding that to the list too, especially since it's supposed to be open source.

Blockstream Green is not a bad mobile wallet, but I never tested it how it works with smartphone and hardware wallet, and there aren't many options to choose.
I think Trezor is working on their own native app, and onekey wallet app plans to support other hardware wallets in future.

Oh lord, I knew this was coming

Sorry SFR, but I always mess up something when I try to act smart to make my own tables 
Your examples looks very good, but like I said there are two types of bluetooth connections and one of them is not supporting computers, I know it's stupid.
Basically, we currently have only few options to connect hardware wallets with smartphones, NFC, Camera/QR codes, Bluetooth, Wireless, USB-C cable, microUSB/USB-C adapter.

[SFR10]

In that case, I'd rather recommend https://ethercalc.net/ or another non-Google alternative. The code is open-source and you can use it without an account.

I'm surprised this is the first time I've read about it ^{[thank you for sharing it]}

Sorry SFR, but I always mess up something when I try to act smart to make my own tables 

Don't be, it happens to me too

Your examples looks very good, but like I said there are two types of bluetooth connections and one of them is not supporting computers, I know it's stupid.

You're right ^{[it's quite strange]}... I'll be inserting comments in that column.

Basically, we currently have only few options to connect hardware wallets with smartphones, NFC, Camera/QR codes, Bluetooth, Wireless, USB-C cable, microUSB/USB-C adapter.

I've modified the table based on your categories ^{[kindly double-check and let me know if you need any other changes]}:

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[dkbit98]

I've modified the table based on your categories ^{[kindly double-check and let me know if you need any other changes]}:

Thank you SFR10, you are life time savior and this looks amazing, there is no need for any changes at the moment, but I could ask you for small modifications in future
I was not sure about CoolWallet and some other hardware wallets, and there is no way for me to check how connection with smartphones works without actually owning this devices.
One thing I was thinking is adding new section ^{(I don't know how to name it)} that explains how smartphone can be connected with hardware wallet, using native app, third party app or using web browser (like Trezor).
Some wallets can use all three types so I was thinking about adding new star symbol only for this category (from one ⭐ to three ⭐⭐⭐) instead of current check or cross symbols.
Or I could just name category app/native/web and use from one ✔ to three ✔✔✔ checkmarks.

[SFR10]

Thank you SFR10, you are life time savior and this looks amazing, there is no need for any changes at the moment, but I could ask you for small modifications in future

You're very welcome ^{[I'm glad I was able to save you some time]}

One thing I was thinking is adding new section ^{(I don't know how to name it)} that explains how smartphone can be connected with hardware wallet, using native app, third party app or using web browser (like Trezor).
Some wallets can use all three types so I was thinking about adding new star symbol only for this category (from one ⭐ to three ⭐⭐⭐) instead of current check or cross symbols.
Or I could just name category app/native/web and use from one ✔ to three ✔✔✔ checkmarks.

This part is a little bit tricky... I think it'd be better to label this specific category as "compatibility" and also use the star symbols with a brief explanation at the end of the table to show what each of these stars means:

• Compatibility with star symbols: https://pastebin.com/xkHZrLgy
  
• App/native/web with checkmarks: https://pastebin.com/e7ihv6Di

[dkbit98]

This part is a little bit tricky... I think it'd be better to label this specific category as "compatibility" and also use the star symbols with a brief explanation at the end of the table to show what each of these stars means:

Thank you for help again.
I selected Compatibility version with star symbols, and I think it looks much better.
Now I have do to some checking, correcting, editing and adding other less popular hardware wallet.
Do you have any ideas how I can make shorter version of MicroUSB/USB-C adapter category?

I also don't know how to say that ✘ or ✔ symbols doesn't always mean that this is something good or bad  :/
Having less options is sometimes better, to reduce risk of attacks.

[NeuroticFish]

I also don't know how to say that ✘ or ✔ symbols doesn't always mean that this is something good or bad  :/
Having less options is sometimes better, to reduce risk of attacks.

Maybe then add some sort of points as some sort of conclusion; the more the better. Of course, this may become somewhat biased.
Also price range can be a factor, since people tend to go for good (or good enough) and cheap (where possible).

Since the table starts to be kinda wide, maybe somehow the camera/qr and microUSB/USBC columns can be shortened ie. maybe shorter or two-column headers (just as advises, making it also this nice may not be easy).

[SFR10]

Thank you for help again.
~Snipped~
Do you have any ideas how I can make shorter version of MicroUSB/USB-C adapter category?

You're very welcome... Unfortunately, I can't think of a single word to replace the above terms, but perhaps we could remove the "adapter" part ^{[it would still be user-friendly]}.
^{- If you're looking for a way to reduce the width of the table, I think we can also remove the "wireless" column.}

• I also don't know how to say that ✘ or ✔ symbols doesn't always mean that this is something good or bad  :/
  Having less options is sometimes better, to reduce risk of attacks.
  

  Maybe then add some sort of points as some sort of conclusion; the more the better. Of course, this may become somewhat biased.
  

  +1

[Tibu]

I am making a list of hardware wallets that can be connected to communicate both with smartphones and computers.
I will list all the wallets and add how exactly can they be connected, but any help and corrections are appreciated.

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.....Wallet.....

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.NFC.

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.Camera/QR code.

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.Bluetooth.

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.WiFi.

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.USB-C.

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.MicroUSB/USB-C.

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.MicroSD.

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.Compatibility.

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Passport

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✘

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✔

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✘

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✘

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✔ [power only]

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✘

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✔

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⭐⭐

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Keystone

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✘

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✔

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✘

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✘

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✘

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✘

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✔

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⭐⭐

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BitBox02

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✘

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✘

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✘

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✘

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✔

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✘

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✔

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⭐⭐

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Jade

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✘

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✔

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✔ [mobile only]

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✔

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✔

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✘

▣

✘

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⭐⭐

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▣

OneKey Classic

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✘

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✘

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✔ [mobile only]

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✔

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✔

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✘

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✘

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⭐⭐⭐

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OneKey Touch

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✘

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✘

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✔ [mobile only]

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✔

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✔

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✘

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✘

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⭐⭐⭐

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SecuX V20

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✘

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✘

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✔

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✔

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✔

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✘

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✘

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⭐⭐

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SecuX W20

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✘

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✘

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✔

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✔

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✘

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✔

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✘

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⭐⭐

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Safepal S1

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✘

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✔

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✘

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✘

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✘

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✘

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✘

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⭐⭐

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D'CENT

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✘

▣

✘

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✔ [mobile only]

▣

✔

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✘

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✔

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✘

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⭐⭐

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Trezor

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✘

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✘

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✘

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✘

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✘

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✔

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✘

▣

⭐⭐⭐

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KeepKey

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✘

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✘

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✘

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✘

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✘

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✔

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✘

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⭐⭐

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Ledger Nano S

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✘

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✘

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✘

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✘

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✘

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✔

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✘

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⭐⭐

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Ledger Nano X

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✘

▣

✘

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✔ [mobile only]

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✔

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✔

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✘

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✘

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⭐⭐

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▣

Ledger Stax

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✔

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✘

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✔ [mobile only]

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✔

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✔

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✘

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✘

▣

⭐⭐

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▣

Coldcard mk4

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✔

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✘

▣

✘

▣

✘

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✔

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✘

▣

✔

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⭐⭐

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▣

CoolWallet S

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✘

▣

✘

▣

✔ [mobile only]

▣

✔

▣

✘

▣

✔

▣

✘

▣

⭐⭐

▣

▣

CoolWallet Pro

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✘

▣

✘

▣

✔ [mobile only]

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✔

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✘

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✔

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✘

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⭐⭐

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Note for the "compatibility" column:
 

• ⭐ = Native app
• ⭐⭐ = Native/third-party apps or native/web apps
• ⭐⭐⭐ = Native, third-party and web apps

Smartphones can be connected with hardware wallets using apps (native and third party), or with web apps using mobile browser (example Trezor).


BitBox02          - USB-C directly or with USB-A adapter.
Passport           - Camera and QR codes; have their own mobile app.
Keystone         - Camera and QR codes; have their own mobile app.
Ledger Nano X  - Bluetooth mobile connection, USB-C cable connection for computers; have their own mobile app.
Ledger Stax      - Bluetooth mobile connection, USB-C cable connection for computers; have their own mobile app.
Jade                - Bluetooth, USB-C, Camera and QR codes.
OneKey Classic  - Bluetooth, USB-C
OneKey Touch   - Bluetooth, USB-C
SecuX V20       - Bluetooth [mobile and computer connections], USB Type-C [computer connection]
SecuX W20       - Bluetooth [mobile and computer connections], USB Type-C [computer connection]
Safepal S1        - Camera and QR codes (closed source can't be confirmed).
D'CENT            - Bluetooth, using microUSB/USB-C adapter; have their own mobile app.
 
Trezor              - using microUSB/USB-C adapter, and Mycellium wallet.
KeepKey          - using microUSB/USB-C adapter, and Mycellium wallet.
Ledger Nano S - using microUSB/USB-C adapter, and Mycellium wallet (firmware can't be updated).
Coldcard mk4  - NFC (?), microSD card.
CoolWallet S     - MicroUSB ?
CoolWallet Pro  -  MicroUSB ?


WORK IN PROGRESS!
Nothing fancy will be posted while I collect information, but this could be updated later.
Thank you for posting your suggestions and new wallets with links.

Hey,

How about add Satochip and Satodime ?
Well, Satodime is not a hardware wallet because you can't sign using the device. It's more like an Opendime on steroid. Like a bearer cold storage solution.
But Satochip is a hardware wallet and is NFC enable. Today you can't use it with your smartphone cuz we dont have develop the mobile app part - yet. But it will come later this year !



Hit me up if you need any other information in case you wish to add these two lil' open-source - super - products 

[dkbit98]

You're very welcome... Unfortunately, I can't think of a single word to replace the above terms, but perhaps we could remove the "adapter" part ^{[it would still be user-friendly]}.
^{- If you're looking for a way to reduce the width of the table, I think we can also remove the "wireless" column.}

I removed some words to make everything less wide, and I think people will understand what MicroUSB/USB-C means, it can be both adapter and OTG cable.

How about add Satochip and Satodime ?
Well, Satodime is not a hardware wallet because you can't sign using the device. It's more like an Opendime on steroid. Like a bearer cold storage solution.
But Satochip is a hardware wallet and is NFC enable. Today you can't use it with your smartphone cuz we dont have develop the mobile app part - yet. But it will come later this year !

Oh I knew this was coming, I think someone predicted you would ask me about this
Sure I can add Satochip if it can be connected with smartphone, otherwise you will have to wait until mobile app is released.
You can post more information below if there is some workaround for mobile connection, but I won't add Satodime and similar devices in this table.

[NotATether]

What kind of software wallet would a hardware wallet connect to when paired with a mobile device? I am struggling to come up with apps, as there are only say half-a-dozen vetted and open-source mobile wallets on iOS/Android in total and the rest cannot really be trusted.

[dkbit98]

What kind of software wallet would a hardware wallet connect to when paired with a mobile device? I am struggling to come up with apps, as there are only say half-a-dozen vetted and open-source mobile wallets on iOS/Android in total and the rest cannot really be trusted.

Most hardware wallet have their own apps, Passport have Envoy app, Bitbox wallet have Bitbox app, Ledger have their own ledger app, Jade is using Green wallet, OneKey is usine OneKey app, Keystone have Keystone Companion App, etc.
Trezor is currently connected with their web app, but new Trezor mobile app will be released soon.
Some software mobile wallets work with multiple hardware wallets, for example Blue Wallet, Nunchuk, Simple Bitcoin Wallet, Green wallet, etc.

[Lillominato89]

speaking in the old thread that I had opened for safepal, from the feedback obtained from various users they tell me that the new version of the S1 comes with the USB typeC port which in your table says that it is not present, it was just to inform you and if you want to update the your table, I also take the opportunity to congratulate you on this thread that you have opened which I consider very useful, especially for those who are approaching hardware wallets for the first time

[Pmalek]

@Lillominato89
I think the Safepal S1 comes with a Type C USB cable but it's only used for charging and doesn't have data pins.
https://store.safepal.com/safepal_store_view/safepal-s1-hardware-wallet.html
The device is supposed to be airgapped so it doesn't connect through USB to transfer data.

BTW guys, what's with the quoting of the OP? It looks ridiculous quoting the first post and isn't necessary. First Tibu does it and now Lillominato89 as well. Just post what you want to say without irrelevant quotes.
@dkbit98 you can report this to the mods and ask them to remove the quote of the OP if it irritates you. It works, and I did it the other day in one of my threads that I forgot to self-moderate.

[Lillominato89]

yes USB type c is used to charge the device but it is also used to update the firmware of the device for this I pointed it out to the OP, however I am modifying my post, it was not my intention to annoy but only to show where " was error" I apologize again and remove the quote

[dkbit98]

I just realized that my table with hardware wallets that work Smartphones can not be fully applied to iOS apple devices that all have lightning ports.
That means that you can't connect wallets like Ledger Nano S, KeepKey, Trezor One, D'CENT, SecuX, CoolWallet, and other wallets with your iPhone or iPad.
Apple does not allow USB OTG, that is available only on Android devices, and ledgr nano x will work with iPhone only via BLE.

[taufik123]

I just realized that my table with hardware wallets that work Smartphones can not be fully applied to iOS apple devices that all have lightning ports.
That means that you can't connect wallets like Ledger Nano S, KeepKey, Trezor One, D'CENT, SecuX, CoolWallet, and other wallets with your iPhone or iPad.
Apple does not allow USB OTG, that is available only on Android devices, and ledger nano x will work with iPhone only via BLE.

Apple does not allow USB OTG ?
because I read and watched several videos that use USB-OTG are supported to transfer files from flash drives and connect hardware wallets,
maybe you can use a USB Micro / Type-C to Lightning Port Converter Adapter.

https://latestmobilefaq.com/apple-iphone-14-pro-faqs-nfc-8k-camera-ois-usb-otg-5g/



iPhone 14 Pro Max Support USB OTG
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_VNN2BJ8ezA

I am an android user and currently using Safepal Wallet. Safepal has its own application and some other updates such as the use of an Extension on the Browser which allows the safepal Wallet to sync with the Extension Browser using a QR Code.