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February 22, 2023, 04:51:23 PM
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Realistically, the difference in the quality of club football in Europe and club football on all other continents is so great that it can be said that any European club from the top 10 would be the favorite in this competition.
Top European clubs are simply financially and organizationally much stronger and clubs from other continents are not serious competition for them.
For the last 10 years, it has practically been known that the European champion will win this competition without any major problems.
Of course, this is no reason not to congratulate Real on winning another trophy  Grin
Which is why FIFA wants to expand this tournament and give it a format similar to the world cup with 32 teams by 2025, this is yet to be approved but it is possible this will be the case and if this happens this will bring a lot more excitement to the competition, because even if the European teams will still be the favorites now there will be many of them and this will add uncertainty about the outcome and could increase the interest of European fans about this tournament.

I agree, it's a good idea and will increase the uncertainty and interest of fans and sponsors for this competition.
This format of the competition obviously needs to be changed and it would be logical that in the future the winners and finalists of all 3 European club competitions participate in this competition.
All finalists of South American club competitions and representatives of all other continents should also participate.
However, it will be very difficult to find a suitable date for holding such a large competition, given that the football calendar is already filled with numerous national and club competitions, and the football players are already exhausted due to the large number of matches in a short time.

The Club World Cup is one of those for Real Madrid. Real Madrid was the best team in this World Cup, for which they managed to go to this World Cup. However, it would be better if this Club World Cup was organized with all the clubs in the world.

All the clubs in the world? Do you mean clubs from 200 countries around the world? It would then be a competition that would last half a year and no one would be interested because of the large number of bad and boring matches.
I understand that FIFA and UEFA only care about making money, but if they go overboard with the number of participants in this competition, it will have the opposite effect and kill interest for this competition.
Obviously, this is becoming more and more commercial and less and less a sports competition.

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February 23, 2023, 12:40:35 AM
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All the clubs in the world? Do you mean clubs from 200 countries around the world? It would then be a competition that would last half a year and no one would be interested because of the large number of bad and boring matches.
I understand that FIFA and UEFA only care about making money, but if they go overboard with the number of participants in this competition, it will have the opposite effect and kill interest for this competition.
Obviously, this is becoming more and more commercial and less and less a sports competition.
Without a doubt the biggest problem would be when this tournament could take place if it is expanded, which is why if I was given a choice I will change this tournament and instead of being held every year it would only be held every four years, which is the format of the world cup, this way winning the tournament will become way more important and it will make easier to make room for it, however if the intentions of FIFA are to hold this tournament every year then they may encounter resistance by European clubs as their calendar is saturated already.
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February 23, 2023, 02:01:07 PM
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Without a doubt the biggest problem would be when this tournament could take place if it is expanded, which is why if I was given a choice I will change this tournament and instead of being held every year it would only be held every four years, which is the format of the world cup, this way winning the tournament will become way more important and it will make easier to make room for it, however if the intentions of FIFA are to hold this tournament every year then they may encounter resistance by European clubs as their calendar is saturated already.

Fifa is already making announcements about the format and date of the new competition:


Source: https://www.euronews.com/2023/02/16/fifa-club-world-cups-new-format-launching-in-2025-with-32-teams

To sum it up very simply, the FIFA Club World Cup will be exactly what the World Cup is today with 32 teams, every 4 years.
Starting in 2025.

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February 25, 2023, 01:13:25 PM
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Real Madrid win the FIFA Club World Cup for the 5th time in history as the European teams continue to dominate this tournament. The match ended with the result 5-3, so it was easy expected win for Real Madrid due to the clear difference in quality between Real Madrid and Al Hilal, who did their best and managed to score 3 goals. On the other hand, Benzima scored a goal and equalized the number of Ronaldo and Messi who scored in 3 different tournaments, as well as Vinicius scored two goals in the final and 3 in total in this tournament and was nominated as the best player. In addition, Valverde scored two goals and surpassed the 10 goals threshold that his coach Ancelotti bet on him to surpass this season. In conclusion, Real Madrid won their first title this year. Although they don't live their best days, this title may get them on the right path again.


I enjoyed the game a lot, the truth was I knew that Madrid was going to win, but something caught my attention a lot, whenever Arturo Vidal (Chilean), the Flamengo player, has given him great bullying, because he referred to Real Madrid in a a very grotesque way, and he didn't even manage to play against them, I wonder what is going through that player's mind when he sees that Real Madrid won? and that he didn't even get a chance to see them even on the court or as a guest? It's sad, but at the same time these things should never be said by a player, because things can turn out that way and it looks very bad.

Without a doubt the biggest problem would be when this tournament could take place if it is expanded, which is why if I was given a choice I will change this tournament and instead of being held every year it would only be held every four years, which is the format of the world cup, this way winning the tournament will become way more important and it will make easier to make room for it, however if the intentions of FIFA are to hold this tournament every year then they may encounter resistance by European clubs as their calendar is saturated already.

Fifa is already making announcements about the format and date of the new competition:


Source: https://www.euronews.com/2023/02/16/fifa-club-world-cups-new-format-launching-in-2025-with-32-teams

To sum it up very simply, the FIFA Club World Cup will be exactly what the World Cup is today with 32 teams, every 4 years.
Starting in 2025.


Wow, there are 12 teams that UEFA is going to have, that translates into almost all the most famous clubs, well that doesn't seem bad to me, from CONMEBOL 6, and it seems to me that there are very few teams, because there is a lot of quality in the leagues , especially the Brazilian and Argentine, I cannot deny that the Colombian and Chilean leagues are very exciting, they live them with great intensity, as for the others I don't care, because UEFA usually reaches the end and wins it, in my way of See this, I think the teams that can stop the Europeans are the Brazilians or the Argentines.

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February 25, 2023, 02:50:02 PM
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Without a doubt the biggest problem would be when this tournament could take place if it is expanded, which is why if I was given a choice I will change this tournament and instead of being held every year it would only be held every four years, which is the format of the world cup, this way winning the tournament will become way more important and it will make easier to make room for it, however if the intentions of FIFA are to hold this tournament every year then they may encounter resistance by European clubs as their calendar is saturated already.

Fifa is already making announcements about the format and date of the new competition:


Source: https://www.euronews.com/2023/02/16/fifa-club-world-cups-new-format-launching-in-2025-with-32-teams

To sum it up very simply, the FIFA Club World Cup will be exactly what the World Cup is today with 32 teams, every 4 years.
Starting in 2025.


Interestingly, after the national team world cup, we will now have the club world cup.
However, unlike the World Cup of Nations, it seems to me that there are too many clubs from Europe and too few from other continents.
What will be the criteria for selecting clubs for this competition? Exclusively sports result or marketing potential?
It is not easy for the national teams to come to the world cup and they have to play long and tiring qualifications, but that will not happen here, so it seems to me that the choice of clubs will be quite arbitrary and coordinated in terms of marketing and business interests.

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Interestingly, after the national team world cup, we will now have the club world cup.
However, unlike the World Cup of Nations, it seems to me that there are too many clubs from Europe and too few from other continents.
What will be the criteria for selecting clubs for this competition? Exclusively sports result or marketing potential?
It is not easy for the national teams to come to the world cup and they have to play long and tiring qualifications, but that will not happen here, so it seems to me that the choice of clubs will be quite arbitrary and coordinated in terms of marketing and business interests.

While the UEFA champions league is probably the most famous soccer tournament around the world when it comes to clubs, all federations have their champions league as well, so if I were to guess how those spots will be selected I suppose that those teams which were at the top of the rankings on the champions league of their respective federation prior to the 2025 FIFA club would cup will be the ones that will make it to the tournament.
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What will be the criteria for selecting clubs for this competition? Exclusively sports result or marketing potential?
It is not easy for the national teams to come to the world cup and they have to play long and tiring qualifications, but that will not happen here, so it seems to me that the choice of clubs will be quite arbitrary and coordinated in terms of marketing and business interests.

Fifa has not yet established the criteria for the classification of the participating teams, since unlike the World Cup, will not have qualifiers.

Just my opinion, but I'm sure that the continents' Champions League will be the main way to qualify,
The two continents I know the most about are South America and Europe.

My main doubt is the following, the championship will be held every 4 years, so will the champions of the last 4 years be classified? Or will it be decided only in the year in which the Club World Cup is held?
What is your opinion?

An example, in Europe they can do the following to qualify 12 teams:
4 years
4 Uefa Champions League = 4 champions and 4 finalists = 8 teams
4 Uefa cup = 4 champions = 4 teams

South America
4 years
4 libertadores da américa = 4 champions + 2 best finalists.

They will need to think hard to make a fair classification system

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March 12, 2023, 12:59:54 PM
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What will be the criteria for selecting clubs for this competition? Exclusively sports result or marketing potential?
It is not easy for the national teams to come to the world cup and they have to play long and tiring qualifications, but that will not happen here, so it seems to me that the choice of clubs will be quite arbitrary and coordinated in terms of marketing and business interests.

Fifa has not yet established the criteria for the classification of the participating teams, since unlike the World Cup, will not have qualifiers.

Just my opinion, but I'm sure that the continents' Champions League will be the main way to qualify,
The two continents I know the most about are South America and Europe.

My main doubt is the following, the championship will be held every 4 years, so will the champions of the last 4 years be classified? Or will it be decided only in the year in which the Club World Cup is held?
What is your opinion?

An example, in Europe they can do the following to qualify 12 teams:
4 years
4 Uefa Champions League = 4 champions and 4 finalists = 8 teams
4 Uefa cup = 4 champions = 4 teams

South America
4 years
4 libertadores da américa = 4 champions + 2 best finalists.

They will need to think hard to make a fair classification system

Interesting ideas and suggestions but actually we will never have 8 different clubs in the Champions League finals over 4 years, maybe 5-6 clubs.
In Europe, in fact, there is no UEFA Cup anymore, but the European League and the Conference League, and all the winners from each competition should participate, and for the remaining places, maybe make additional qualifications.
However, in the end we'll mostly always be watching the same clubs, and I'm not sure how interesting it will be to watch.
At the world cup for national teams, every 4 years we see some new national teams and surprises, which adds charm to the competition and raises the interest of the spectators.
FIFA needs to think very carefully about the system of this competition.

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March 12, 2023, 01:02:33 PM
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What will be the criteria for selecting clubs for this competition? Exclusively sports result or marketing potential?
It is not easy for the national teams to come to the world cup and they have to play long and tiring qualifications, but that will not happen here, so it seems to me that the choice of clubs will be quite arbitrary and coordinated in terms of marketing and business interests.

Fifa has not yet established the criteria for the classification of the participating teams, since unlike the World Cup, will not have qualifiers.

Just my opinion, but I'm sure that the continents' Champions League will be the main way to qualify,
The two continents I know the most about are South America and Europe.

My main doubt is the following, the championship will be held every 4 years, so will the champions of the last 4 years be classified? Or will it be decided only in the year in which the Club World Cup is held?
What is your opinion?

An example, in Europe they can do the following to qualify 12 teams:
4 years
4 Uefa Champions League = 4 champions and 4 finalists = 8 teams
4 Uefa cup = 4 champions = 4 teams

South America
4 years
4 libertadores da américa = 4 champions + 2 best finalists.

They will need to think hard to make a fair classification system

Interesting ideas and suggestions but actually we will never have 8 different clubs in the Champions League finals over 4 years, maybe 5-6 clubs.
In Europe, in fact, there is no UEFA Cup anymore, but the European League and the Conference League, and all the winners from each competition should participate, and for the remaining places, maybe make additional qualifications.
However, in the end we'll mostly always be watching the same clubs, and I'm not sure how interesting it will be to watch.
At the world cup for national teams, every 4 years we see some new national teams and surprises, which adds charm to the competition and raises the interest of the spectators.
FIFA needs to think very carefully about the system of this competition.
My personal opinion is that FIFA World Cup should be held every three years or every two years. This will make football fans very happy and football players will also be able to spend more time in the national team.

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March 15, 2023, 06:23:40 PM
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I have some news about the next Cup in 2025



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The new format of the tournament will consist of eight groups of four, with the top two teams of each group going through to a knockout round.

As the last two winners of the Champions League, Chelsea, and Real Madrid will be guaranteed a spot in the tournament and two more spots will be issued to the 2023 and 2024 Champions League winners.

As the Copa Libertadores is currently due to be held in November, South American clubs would not have finished their qualification tournaments in time to qualify for the new Club World Cup that year.

The new 32-team tournament is scheduled for 2025 and then 2029, but the current seven-team format will continue in its current December slot in 2024 — and in the years between the bumper version. That smaller tournament will run under a new name.
Source: https://theathletic.com/4307281/2023/03/14/fifa-club-world-cup-2025-teams/

So far, the clubs that I know that are already classified are: Real Madrid, Chelsea, Flamengo and Palmeiras from Brazil.

What do you think guys?

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March 25, 2023, 12:21:45 PM
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What will be the criteria for selecting clubs for this competition? Exclusively sports result or marketing potential?
It is not easy for the national teams to come to the world cup and they have to play long and tiring qualifications, but that will not happen here, so it seems to me that the choice of clubs will be quite arbitrary and coordinated in terms of marketing and business interests.

Fifa has not yet established the criteria for the classification of the participating teams, since unlike the World Cup, will not have qualifiers.

Just my opinion, but I'm sure that the continents' Champions League will be the main way to qualify,
The two continents I know the most about are South America and Europe.

My main doubt is the following, the championship will be held every 4 years, so will the champions of the last 4 years be classified? Or will it be decided only in the year in which the Club World Cup is held?
What is your opinion?

An example, in Europe they can do the following to qualify 12 teams:
4 years
4 Uefa Champions League = 4 champions and 4 finalists = 8 teams
4 Uefa cup = 4 champions = 4 teams

South America
4 years
4 libertadores da américa = 4 champions + 2 best finalists.

They will need to think hard to make a fair classification system

Interesting ideas and suggestions but actually we will never have 8 different clubs in the Champions League finals over 4 years, maybe 5-6 clubs.
In Europe, in fact, there is no UEFA Cup anymore, but the European League and the Conference League, and all the winners from each competition should participate, and for the remaining places, maybe make additional qualifications.
However, in the end we'll mostly always be watching the same clubs, and I'm not sure how interesting it will be to watch.
At the world cup for national teams, every 4 years we see some new national teams and surprises, which adds charm to the competition and raises the interest of the spectators.
FIFA needs to think very carefully about the system of this competition.
My personal opinion is that FIFA World Cup should be held every three years or every two years. This will make football fans very happy and football players will also be able to spend more time in the national team.

I don't agree with you. The existing calendar of club and national team competitions is already quite physically demanding for all football players, and adding new competitions would really be too much for them.
The possibility of player injuries would increase and the competitions would lose its attractiveness if it were held too often.
In all of this, the sports aspect and the situation of football players should be considered, not just profit.
I believe that FIFA's decision to allow more national teams to participate in the World Cup is wrong and clearly made for political and business reasons, and has nothing to do with sports reasons.

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May 02, 2023, 08:24:02 AM
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This year in 2022 there is no clear way to choose between Al-Hilal SFC, FC Barcelona,   
Mussier CF, Roma, Roma SC and WSL for this matches, so if not there's an easy way. 
 
This team might not make a final, but I think its obvious that their fans will feel this team will win this last
year and might be able to reach the championship, even if they won't.
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