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Where? Are you sure that's not just some userbase rank of that particular website?
Then it turns out I have confused userbase rank with official ranking... Where can I find official boxing ranking then? Because their #300+ ranking position seems legit I'm sure there's some site that collects them all or groups them into overall categories but there's lots of different governing bodies so it's best to check their individual pages. WBC is the board that have offered the ranking for this fight: https://box.live/world-rankings/wbc/When they say he will be ranked I'm not sure exactly what that means or what the criteria is for getting on the ranked list. Maybe he will go into the top 100 or 50 or something. Hopefully they don't mean the top 15 which is usually the best of the best and those are the ones that can challenge for titles. Jake is a Cruiserweight I think and the lowest amount of fights I can see in the top 15 fights total. Someone just dropped out of the top 15 with only 11 fights so Jake has a long way to go but he could probably get there eventually. We'll see that after the fight, but getting into the top 20 is already a big achievement for Jake Paul, compared to the top 10 in the Cruiserweight he is more popular and getting paid more than all the other ranking Cruiserweight contenders, after he got his rank, things will be tougher for Jake Paul he cannot go back fighting old MMA fighters he needs to level up and fight boxers that are close to his rank. He will shock the World if he landed in the top 5 and the Cruiserweight Champions might take him seriously, that's part of his dream, its a cinderella story for Jake Paul, imagine he brought something new to the boxing industry. I wonder will his train take him to the Championship.
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We'll see that after the fight, but getting into the top 20 is already a big achievement for Jake Paul, compared to the top 10 in the Cruiserweight he is more popular and getting paid more than all the other ranking Cruiserweight contenders, after he got his rank, things will be tougher for Jake Paul he cannot go back fighting old MMA fighters he needs to level up and fight boxers that are close to his rank. He will shock the World if he landed in the top 5 and the Cruiserweight Champions might take him seriously, that's part of his dream, its a cinderella story for Jake Paul, imagine he brought something new to the boxing industry. I wonder will his train take him to the Championship.
Jake Paul is not a serious boxer. The reason he is in a "Cinderella Story", as you say, is because he is a pretty little princess who has no substance, no real skill and obviously no honor, since he sold that for a cheap career as an social media influencer instead of seriously training to become a real boxer. He has been fighting the weak and old for exactly that reason. Because he wants to get to the top the easy way while taking selfies. He does not care about skill or boxing. Although I greatly dislike Jake Paul and his equally shallow and superficial social media influencer brother, Logan Paul, who as everyone remembers has no problem throwing away honor for social media likes (If you remember the Japanese suicide forest scandal). So obviously dishonor runs in the family. But thats not news to anyone who knows me and my dislike for the Logans.
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I'm sure there's some site that collects them all or groups them into overall categories but there's lots of different governing bodies so it's best to check their individual pages. WBC is the board that have offered the ranking for this fight: https://box.live/world-rankings/wbc/When they say he will be ranked I'm not sure exactly what that means or what the criteria is for getting on the ranked list. Maybe he will go into the top 100 or 50 or something. Hopefully they don't mean the top 15 which is usually the best of the best and those are the ones that can challenge for titles. Jake is a Cruiserweight I think and the lowest amount of fights I can see in the top 15 fights total. Someone just dropped out of the top 15 with only 11 fights so Jake has a long way to go but he could probably get there eventually. Boxing rankings have always alluded me. They've never really made any logical sense, and seem to be just some made up crap. Whereas, at least in the UFC you have to beat higher ranked fighters to move up, it seems in boxing you can continue to fight people below you, and go up. I ditched caring about the rankings years ago, at least in boxing. I can see Jake being top 15 quality though. Obviously, I'm doing it by hearsay, and not actually relying on the official rankings there, but he has decent technique, and seems to have a dedication that goes beyond some of the professional boxers that have made this their life. Let's see if he gets past Tommy first though, if he doesn't that could be a serious spanner in his plans, because ultimately it's the first real boxer he's faced, even though personally I think he's more than satisfied with the quality of opposition this early in his career. Definitely, better than most boxers that look to pad their records.
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I'm sure there's some site that collects them all or groups them into overall categories but there's lots of different governing bodies so it's best to check their individual pages. WBC is the board that have offered the ranking for this fight: https://box.live/world-rankings/wbc/When they say he will be ranked I'm not sure exactly what that means or what the criteria is for getting on the ranked list. Maybe he will go into the top 100 or 50 or something. Hopefully they don't mean the top 15 which is usually the best of the best and those are the ones that can challenge for titles. Jake is a Cruiserweight I think and the lowest amount of fights I can see in the top 15 fights total. Someone just dropped out of the top 15 with only 11 fights so Jake has a long way to go but he could probably get there eventually. Boxing rankings have always alluded me. They've never really made any logical sense, and seem to be just some made up crap. Whereas, at least in the UFC you have to beat higher ranked fighters to move up, it seems in boxing you can continue to fight people below you, and go up. I ditched caring about the rankings years ago, at least in boxing. I can see Jake being top 15 quality though. Obviously, I'm doing it by hearsay, and not actually relying on the official rankings there, but he has decent technique, and seems to have a dedication that goes beyond some of the professional boxers that have made this their life. Let's see if he gets past Tommy first though, if he doesn't that could be a serious spanner in his plans, because ultimately it's the first real boxer he's faced, even though personally I think he's more than satisfied with the quality of opposition this early in his career. Definitely, better than most boxers that look to pad their records. Yes, it's fair to say that the rankings are not that really accurate and the basis isn't that kind of established to know how these boxers climbs the said rankings per governing body. But there are still some advantage of this rankings because if ever there will be a title eliminator or a challenge, we can somehow guess who will be the boxers as the ranks tells that they are next in line. For me, it's like a they are just queuing actually.
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@jakepaul TOMMY FURY BOARDED HIS FLIGHT TO SAUDI. DELICIOUS! https://twitter.com/jakepaul/status/1626543422919135233Looks like we have a fight Tommy has boarded his flight & is en route to Saudi Arabia. LETSSSSSS GET IT ONNNNN !
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February 17, 2023, 07:40:17 PM |
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Looks like we have a fight Tommy has boarded his flight & is en route to Saudi Arabia. LETSSSSSS GET IT ONNNNN ! I wouldn't be too sure yet, stranger things have happened . Hopefully, it's about time. I mean, it's not exactly Tommy's fault for the last one getting called off. He didn't anticipate getting refused a visa, and effectively banned from entering the country. Plus, honestly I don't think Tommy needs to be scared or anything like that. He's probably relishing the opportunity to make some serious money, and he'll gain quite a bit fame from this regardless how it goes. He does need to avoid being embarrassed though, so there's always that aspect I suppose. Anyway, it's only confirmed when they've both entered that ring, and the bell goes, that's how pessimistic I've become with boxing .
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February 17, 2023, 08:26:32 PM |
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Looks like we have a fight Tommy has boarded his flight & is en route to Saudi Arabia. LETSSSSSS GET IT ONNNNN ! I wouldn't be too sure yet, stranger things have happened . Hopefully, it's about time. I mean, it's not exactly Tommy's fault for the last one getting called off. He didn't anticipate getting refused a visa, and effectively banned from entering the country. Plus, honestly I don't think Tommy needs to be scared or anything like that. He's probably relishing the opportunity to make some serious money, and he'll gain quite a bit fame from this regardless how it goes. He does need to avoid being embarrassed though, so there's always that aspect I suppose. Anyway, it's only confirmed when they've both entered that ring, and the bell goes, that's how pessimistic I've become with boxing . Maybe I’m just being optimistic as I had a bet on Paul to win I’m sure there will be a prediction contest for us guys here on the forum, courtesy of sportsbet.io & jeremypwr.
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February 17, 2023, 08:31:39 PM |
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Where? Are you sure that's not just some userbase rank of that particular website?
Then it turns out I have confused userbase rank with official ranking... Where can I find official boxing ranking then? Because their #300+ ranking position seems legit I'm sure there's some site that collects them all or groups them into overall categories but there's lots of different governing bodies so it's best to check their individual pages. WBC is the board that have offered the ranking for this fight: https://box.live/world-rankings/wbc/When they say he will be ranked I'm not sure exactly what that means or what the criteria is for getting on the ranked list. Maybe he will go into the top 100 or 50 or something. Hopefully they don't mean the top 15 which is usually the best of the best and those are the ones that can challenge for titles. Jake is a Cruiserweight I think and the lowest amount of fights I can see in the top 15 fights total. Someone just dropped out of the top 15 with only 11 fights so Jake has a long way to go but he could probably get there eventually. We'll see that after the fight, but getting into the top 20 is already a big achievement for Jake Paul, compared to the top 10 in the Cruiserweight he is more popular and getting paid more than all the other ranking Cruiserweight contenders, after he got his rank, things will be tougher for Jake Paul he cannot go back fighting old MMA fighters Indeed because he will be matched with "evenly" talented boxer in accordance of his ranking. One Jake Paul career pursue true boxers, I do not think he will stay undefeated. he needs to level up and fight boxers that are close to his rank.
True that is why I stated, he will be match with boxers that has the caliber to be on that top ranking thus it will possibly mark his first defeat. He will shock the World if he landed in the top 5 and the Cruiserweight Champions might take him seriously, that's part of his dream, its a cinderella story for Jake Paul, imagine he brought something new to the boxing industry. I wonder will his train take him to the Championship.
I will be shock myself, lol. Imagine a boxer fighting washed out mma players get in the ranking of top 5? That will surely make the ranking look like a joke.
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I will be shock myself, lol. Imagine a boxer fighting washed out mma players get in the ranking of top 5? That will surely make the ranking look like a joke.
What will shock us more from this fight is the price, the price of the PPV £19.95, beating other boxing matches PPV prices. One fan said: “WTF it's PPV as well? Haha. Boxing is dead.”
Another tweeted: “World’s gone. Seriously. £19.95 used to get you AJ/Klitchscko, Brook/Golovkin, Froch/Groves - with cracking undercards too. It’s absolutely embarrassing.”
A third fan joked: “Bargain I would of easily paid £29.99 to see this.”
Do you think this fight deserves £19.95 PPV I don't think so, but I love to see how the fight unfolds after two years of waiting I guess people want real entertainment and they will even pay more than rated boxing matches Fans say ‘boxing is dead’ after BT reveal PPV price for Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury
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I will be shock myself, lol. Imagine a boxer fighting washed out mma players get in the ranking of top 5? That will surely make the ranking look like a joke.
What will shock us more from this fight is the price, the price of the PPV £19.95, beating other boxing matches PPV prices. One fan said: “WTF it's PPV as well? Haha. Boxing is dead.”
Another tweeted: “World’s gone. Seriously. £19.95 used to get you AJ/Klitchscko, Brook/Golovkin, Froch/Groves - with cracking undercards too. It’s absolutely embarrassing.”
A third fan joked: “Bargain I would of easily paid £29.99 to see this.”
Do you think this fight deserves £19.95 PPV I don't think so, but I love to see how the fight unfolds after two years of waiting I guess people want real entertainment and they will even pay more than rated boxing matches Fans say ‘boxing is dead’ after BT reveal PPV price for Jake Paul vs Tommy FuryWell, anyone does have their own comments about the upcoming fight between Tommy Furry and Jake Paul, and people will always find a way to make such comments. But, let's think of it, surely it's their own choice if they will set the price higher because they are also not forcing anyone to see their fight. They are just making the hype and marketing it as that's what organizers and boxers do, the fact is, they are just getting advantage of the situation because their fight has been criticized by many and that makes it more famous. The more haters, the more money. We are also the only ones who are feeding these nonsense so-called boxers to make a nonsense fight.
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Well, anyone does have their own comments about the upcoming fight between Tommy Furry and Jake Paul, and people will always find a way to make such comments. But, let's think of it, surely it's their own choice if they will set the price higher because they are also not forcing anyone to see their fight. They are just making the hype and marketing it as that's what organizers and boxers do, the fact is, they are just getting advantage of the situation because their fight has been criticized by many and that makes it more famous. The more haters, the more money. We are also the only ones who are feeding these nonsense so-called boxers to make a nonsense fight.
After all, it's just a business, there is much less sport here. Mauricio Suleiman announced that if he wins, Jake Paul will be placed in the official WBC world heavyweight rating (up to 90.7 kg). For Jake, this can be an additional motivation if he has such a goal, and if this does happen, then canceling fights in professional boxing will not work so easily. ) Fury continues to claim that he is a professional boxer and will knock out Jake in this fight.
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We'll see that after the fight, but getting into the top 20 is already a big achievement for Jake Paul, compared to the top 10 in the Cruiserweight he is more popular and getting paid more than all the other ranking Cruiserweight contenders, after he got his rank, things will be tougher for Jake Paul he cannot go back fighting old MMA fighters he needs to level up and fight boxers that are close to his rank. He will shock the World if he landed in the top 5 and the Cruiserweight Champions might take him seriously, that's part of his dream, its a cinderella story for Jake Paul, imagine he brought something new to the boxing industry. I wonder will his train take him to the Championship.
Jake Paul is not a serious boxer. The reason he is in a "Cinderella Story", as you say, is because he is a pretty little princess who has no substance, no real skill and obviously no honor, since he sold that for a cheap career as an social media influencer instead of seriously training to become a real boxer. He has been fighting the weak and old for exactly that reason. Because he wants to get to the top the easy way while taking selfies. He does not care about skill or boxing. Although I greatly dislike Jake Paul and his equally shallow and superficial social media influencer brother, Logan Paul, who as everyone remembers has no problem throwing away honor for social media likes (If you remember the Japanese suicide forest scandal). So obviously dishonor runs in the family. But thats not news to anyone who knows me and my dislike for the Logans. Not to sound like I'm a Jake Paul Supporter but I think he does have some skill in him. I mean, He knows the game, he packs some punch albeit I wouldn't really compare him to pro boxers, and he gets wins. Honestly not a fan of his cheap tricks of only ever fighting people that are past their primes or that aren't great boxers in the first place, but he's got some skill and some boxing experience. The fight isn't officially sanctioned by any official boxing organizations anyways so I think it's only fine that he's able to fight and get bets placed on his side. I wouldn't agree with the Cinderella Story part though as per @goldkingcoiner statements, he pretty much had everything laid out for him and all he needs to do is to just sit in the front of the camera and act since day 1.
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Not to sound like I'm a Jake Paul Supporter but I think he does have some skill in him. I mean, He knows the game, he packs some punch albeit I wouldn't really compare him to pro boxers, and he gets wins. Honestly not a fan of his cheap tricks of only ever fighting people that are past their primes or that aren't great boxers in the first place, but he's got some skill and some boxing experience. The fight isn't officially sanctioned by any official boxing organizations anyways so I think it's only fine that he's able to fight and get bets placed on his side. I wouldn't agree with the Cinderella Story part though as per @goldkingcoiner statements, he pretty much had everything laid out for him and all he needs to do is to just sit in the front of the camera and act since day 1.
Tommy Fury is a pro boxer and if he beats him then it is time to compare Jake Paul to pro boxers. I think Tommy Fury still beats him and I was hoping for it but the excuses from Tommy Fury and not turning up to the media talks is annoying so I have converted slightly to wanting Jake Paul to knock out Tommy Fury but I do not think that will happen I think this fight will go to a decision which is better for us because if Jake Paul does win we should have many rounds to judge him against a pro boxer and see where he is at with his skills. I think he will do well but Tommy Fury does have power and he does not like Jake Paul after Jake Paul insulted his new born baby. I do not know if that is going to get in the head of Tommy Fury and stop him from fighting a calm fight which could get him knocked out.
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Well, anyone does have their own comments about the upcoming fight between Tommy Furry and Jake Paul, and people will always find a way to make such comments. But, let's think of it, surely it's their own choice if they will set the price higher because they are also not forcing anyone to see their fight. They are just making the hype and marketing it as that's what organizers and boxers do, the fact is, they are just getting advantage of the situation because their fight has been criticized by many and that makes it more famous. The more haters, the more money. We are also the only ones who are feeding these nonsense so-called boxers to make a nonsense fight.
After all, it's just a business, there is much less sport here. Mauricio Suleiman announced that if he wins, Jake Paul will be placed in the official WBC world heavyweight rating (up to 90.7 kg). For Jake, this can be an additional motivation if he has such a goal, and if this does happen, then canceling fights in professional boxing will not work so easily. ) Fury continues to claim that he is a professional boxer and will knock out Jake in this fight. All these news and hype with the recent statement of WBC's president, then suddenly Tommy Fury will back out that will result to a cancellation of the fight. I wonder what would Jake Paul feel as his ambitions are shattered with Fury's selfish move But seriously tho, I hope this fight will happen so that it will end much sooner because bouts like these are more like a circus rather than a real boxing entertainment. Even if Jake Paul will receive his rankings after he defeat Tommy Fury, I doubt if there's any boxer out there in the upper rank that will give him a chance. Anyway, let's see about that in the upcoming months.
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Well, anyone does have their own comments about the upcoming fight between Tommy Furry and Jake Paul, and people will always find a way to make such comments. But, let's think of it, surely it's their own choice if they will set the price higher because they are also not forcing anyone to see their fight. They are just making the hype and marketing it as that's what organizers and boxers do, the fact is, they are just getting advantage of the situation because their fight has been criticized by many and that makes it more famous. The more haters, the more money. We are also the only ones who are feeding these nonsense so-called boxers to make a nonsense fight.
After all, it's just a business, there is much less sport here. Mauricio Suleiman announced that if he wins, Jake Paul will be placed in the official WBC world heavyweight rating (up to 90.7 kg). For Jake, this can be an additional motivation if he has such a goal, and if this does happen, then canceling fights in professional boxing will not work so easily. ) Fury continues to claim that he is a professional boxer and will knock out Jake in this fight. All these news and hype with the recent statement of WBC's president, then suddenly Tommy Fury will back out that will result to a cancellation of the fight. I wonder what would Jake Paul feel as his ambitions are shattered with Fury's selfish move But seriously tho, I hope this fight will happen so that it will end much sooner because bouts like these are more like a circus rather than a real boxing entertainment. Even if Jake Paul will receive his rankings after he defeat Tommy Fury, I doubt if there's any boxer out there in the upper rank that will give him a chance. Anyway, let's see about that in the upcoming months. Jake Paul decides where his fate goes, he picks his opponents that he could possibly win over. I any upper rank picks a fight with him, he will just pause a bit and look at it closely and decide. He is calculated and he knows to himself he can defeat Tommy. He is always the one that will initiate and right now he had already chosen different fighters lining up for his cash cow promotion.
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February 18, 2023, 07:18:59 PM |
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Well, anyone does have their own comments about the upcoming fight between Tommy Furry and Jake Paul, and people will always find a way to make such comments. But, let's think of it, surely it's their own choice if they will set the price higher because they are also not forcing anyone to see their fight. They are just making the hype and marketing it as that's what organizers and boxers do, the fact is, they are just getting advantage of the situation because their fight has been criticized by many and that makes it more famous. The more haters, the more money. We are also the only ones who are feeding these nonsense so-called boxers to make a nonsense fight.
After all, it's just a business, there is much less sport here. Mauricio Suleiman announced that if he wins, Jake Paul will be placed in the official WBC world heavyweight rating (up to 90.7 kg). For Jake, this can be an additional motivation if he has such a goal, and if this does happen, then canceling fights in professional boxing will not work so easily. ) Fury continues to claim that he is a professional boxer and will knock out Jake in this fight. All these news and hype with the recent statement of WBC's president, then suddenly Tommy Fury will back out that will result to a cancellation of the fight. I wonder what would Jake Paul feel as his ambitions are shattered with Fury's selfish move But seriously tho, I hope this fight will happen so that it will end much sooner because bouts like these are more like a circus rather than a real boxing entertainment. Even if Jake Paul will receive his rankings after he defeat Tommy Fury, I doubt if there's any boxer out there in the upper rank that will give him a chance. Anyway, let's see about that in the upcoming months. Jake Paul decides where his fate goes, he picks his opponents that he could possibly win over. I any upper rank picks a fight with him, he will just pause a bit and look at it closely and decide. He is calculated and he knows to himself he can defeat Tommy. He is always the one that will initiate and right now he had already chosen different fighters lining up for his cash cow promotion. Yes, with the statement of WBC, I bet Jake Paul is already excited to finish off Tommy because he already knew that after the fight, another opportunity will open for him and at last, he will be in the rankings. It's still a long way though, at least now he knows that where he is going because he is now given a chance to fight for the rankings. By that time, I hope he will stop making circus fights.
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February 18, 2023, 07:23:58 PM |
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Well, anyone does have their own comments about the upcoming fight between Tommy Furry and Jake Paul, and people will always find a way to make such comments. But, let's think of it, surely it's their own choice if they will set the price higher because they are also not forcing anyone to see their fight. They are just making the hype and marketing it as that's what organizers and boxers do, the fact is, they are just getting advantage of the situation because their fight has been criticized by many and that makes it more famous. The more haters, the more money. We are also the only ones who are feeding these nonsense so-called boxers to make a nonsense fight.
After all, it's just a business, there is much less sport here. Mauricio Suleiman announced that if he wins, Jake Paul will be placed in the official WBC world heavyweight rating (up to 90.7 kg). For Jake, this can be an additional motivation if he has such a goal, and if this does happen, then canceling fights in professional boxing will not work so easily. ) Fury continues to claim that he is a professional boxer and will knock out Jake in this fight. All these news and hype with the recent statement of WBC's president, then suddenly Tommy Fury will back out that will result to a cancellation of the fight. I wonder what would Jake Paul feel as his ambitions are shattered with Fury's selfish move But seriously tho, I hope this fight will happen so that it will end much sooner because bouts like these are more like a circus rather than a real boxing entertainment. Even if Jake Paul will receive his rankings after he defeat Tommy Fury, I doubt if there's any boxer out there in the upper rank that will give him a chance. Anyway, let's see about that in the upcoming months. I think the opposite, he is attracting attention to the sport and this means more money to whoever fights him, and if he beats Tommy Fury then an upper rank can challenge him and not come as a bully as Jake Paul will be ranked by then as well, and finally if you had the skill and power to beat Jake Paul and give him a beating why would you choose to not do it? Because if you do not take the chance and someone else does it not only you will lose the chance of earning a lot of money but you will also miss the satisfaction of bringing him down.
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February 18, 2023, 11:17:01 PM |
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All these news and hype with the recent statement of WBC's president, then suddenly Tommy Fury will back out that will result to a cancellation of the fight. I wonder what would Jake Paul feel as his ambitions are shattered with Fury's selfish move But seriously tho, I hope this fight will happen so that it will end much sooner because bouts like these are more like a circus rather than a real boxing entertainment. Even if Jake Paul will receive his rankings after he defeat Tommy Fury, I doubt if there's any boxer out there in the upper rank that will give him a chance. Anyway, let's see about that in the upcoming months. And why not if the money is right and the other boxer has the chance to make money, if I am a ranked Cruiserweight will challenge him it will boost my career, Jake Paul is a good feather in the cap of every Cruiserweight, imagine after a long journey you stopped the Jake Paul hype and that is something that will be attached to your career. I guess at this point in time everybody wants Jake Paul's head, especially now that their PPV price is higher than professional boxers, it's about time that we take Jake Paul seriously.
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February 18, 2023, 11:52:17 PM |
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And why not if the money is right and the other boxer has the chance to make money, if I am a ranked Cruiserweight will challenge him it will boost my career, Jake Paul is a good feather in the cap of every Cruiserweight, imagine after a long journey you stopped the Jake Paul hype and that is something that will be attached to your career. I guess at this point in time everybody wants Jake Paul's head, especially now that their PPV price is higher than professional boxers, it's about time that we take Jake Paul seriously.
Any boxer who can stop the hype of Jake paul will increase his popularity because he has a lot of fans and has not lost in his boxing career, I think Tommy has a chance to beat him and breaking news he is not canceling for the fight later, I saw the video of tommy has arrived in arab and ready to fight the fight and of course we hope that the fight will happen on the 26th of feb.
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February 19, 2023, 05:47:34 AM |
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Both brothers have got fighting spirit Logan in wwe (he's great at it tbh) and Jake in boxing. I would say Tommy would win but if he's getting more money to lose the match than I wouldn't be surprised with result.
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