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If Jake Paul losses in this fight, I have a feeling that Tommy Fury will not give Jake a chance to have a rematch and will just let Jake chase him until he gets tired. Jake Paul can't do nothing about it as if I'm correct, there is no rematch clause written on their contract right now because Jake Paul's camp is just confident enough that he got some good chances compared to Tommy. But let's see about that soon.
Tommy Fury would want the money from the rematch he knows that this is probably the biggest fight he will ever be involved in and if he wins this fight he will the a side in the rematch and he can demand more money and I think most boxing fights have a clause for a rematch especially the big fights like this 1. I think a rematch will happen if Jake Paul wins because it is a win win for Tommy Fury he has not been doing much boxing and he probably is never going to have many other big fights and he gets paid and has the chance to make history being the 1st one to knock out Jake Paul. If he loses he can go back to reality tv and make a career out of that. Same as Jake Paul if the boxing career fails he can go back to Youtube. I agree, Tommy Fury indeed needed a big money like this one and will still likely agree with a rematch if in-case he gets fortunate and win this bout because his girlfriend just bore their daughter recently. But in this case, I think there's no rematch clause included because they didn't even specify what is written on their contract or if they have one. But if ever the Jake Paul will win, I doubt there will be a rematch because Jake Paul will now be leaning on the ranking side as the governing bodies has made a statement that he will be given one once he win this bout.
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I agree, Tommy Fury indeed needed a big money like this one and will still likely agree with a rematch if in-case he gets fortunate and win this bout because his girlfriend just bore their daughter recently. But in this case, I think there's no rematch clause included because they didn't even specify what is written on their contract or if they have one. But if ever the Jake Paul will win, I doubt there will be a rematch because Jake Paul will now be leaning on the ranking side as the governing bodies has made a statement that he will be given one once he win this bout.
He is not short of money but he will want to secure his daughters future and I think that is a good reason to accept the rematch but as I say I think it will already be included in the deal that both fighters sign. If Tommy Fury wins then he will demand more in the rematch and if Jake Paul wins he will continue to be the A side and will continue to grow his career. Tommy Fury has not taken this fight for his career he has done it for the money because even if he beats Jake Paul it does nothing for his career. He is the professional boxer and a lot of people still view Tommy Fury as a Youtube boxer. The odds have Jake Paul as the favorite which is surprising.
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If Jake Paul losses in this fight, I have a feeling that Tommy Fury will not give Jake a chance to have a rematch and will just let Jake chase him until he gets tired. Jake Paul can't do nothing about it as if I'm correct, there is no rematch clause written on their contract right now because Jake Paul's camp is just confident enough that he got some good chances compared to Tommy. But let's see about that soon.
If the event gives them huge money then I think a rematch will happen. Take note, it isn't the boxer that is deciding the fight, it is the promoter and/or the manager. All the boxers do is train and be prepared for the upcoming fight. All the discussion and deals is done by the Promoter/Manager so it is a blessings for a boxer if they find a clever promoter that knows how to build a great boxing career Even with no rematch clause, the game is governed by money so if huge money comes in this fight there is a huge chance for a rematch or a trilogy.
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The excuse to walk away is still there, but since he is getting a new member in the family for sure Tommy needs this fight money, so, he shouldn't walk away this time.
I don't know what to expect from this fight, always feels like Jake Paul Fights are rigged, and he has talked about it, he is trying to clean his reputation by proving how his fights are real, but we can't be sure that he isn't in steroids or some drugs to be a super human under the fight. I just don't trust that guy.
Ah, the two classic baseless excuses: fixed fights and roids. Stop chatting nonsense about something you know nothing about. You sound like every other dolt who just parrots rubbish when a result goes a way they don't want or can't accept. There's absolute nothing suspicious about Jake's wins. He's just KO-ing people and is better than people expect. He's also vada tested. If he was on steroids he'd probably be a lot bigger than he is. He has a pretty average build to be honest; nothing superhuman about him. If you see him next year and he's twice the size and jacked maybe then that might be a cause for concern. If Jake Paul losses in this fight, I have a feeling that Tommy Fury will not give Jake a chance to have a rematch and will just let Jake chase him until he gets tired. Jake Paul can't do nothing about it as if I'm correct, there is no rematch clause written on their contract right now because Jake Paul's camp is just confident enough that he got some good chances compared to Tommy. But let's see about that soon.
Jake has a rematch clause so Tommy will be contractually obligated to rematch Jake if he activates the clause. Jake would probably only do the rematch if it's close or Tommy wins on points or something. Not much point going again if he gets battered. I think a rematch will happen if Jake Paul wins because it is a win win for Tommy Fury he has not been doing much boxing and he probably is never going to have many other big fights and he gets paid and has the chance to make history being the 1st one to knock out Jake Paul. If he loses he can go back to reality tv and make a career out of that. Same as Jake Paul if the boxing career fails he can go back to Youtube.
How would his first loss and to a so called 'youtber' be a win-win? The only win here is the money he's getting but he likely won't get more for a rematch especially if he loses. Jake probably won't rematch if he wins either. He'll just move on to the next step. No point treading water going sideways when there's bigger and better opponents that will progress his career.
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For me it is more interesting to watch how both fighters gonna act after the fight. How Jake is going to taunt Tommy and UFC if he wins, how ridiculous Tommy excuses would be, Tommy's father rage. Or how Jake is going to act if he looses. Will he ask for a rematch or excuses that "he is not a professional fighter like others".
It's an interesting point. It could turn into a WWE-style circus if Jake wins and Tommy's dad rips his shirt off again. I'd just like to see some respect between them especially if it's close or a draw. I'd like to see that if one of them wins too. One of them is going to have to give the other props if they win. I did not mean to turn that whole situation into WWE circus, I dont expect them showing each other respect. I only want to see how other promotions and sports react in case Jake or Tommy wins. If Jake wins, he definitely gonna try to make Dana White angry again. UFC fighters gonna ask for raise again or show willingness to switch to boxing. To keep audience and fighters, UFC gonna either make more big fights, or make them fight more often. For me the outcome of this fight will be influensive on UFC. I am not really interested in their fight, I am interested in changes in boxing and UFC that will follow.
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How would his first loss and to a so called 'youtber' be a win-win? The only win here is the money he's getting but he likely won't get more for a rematch especially if he loses. Jake probably won't rematch if he wins either. He'll just move on to the next step. No point treading water going sideways when there's bigger and better opponents that will progress his career.
Every boxing fan dislikes Jake Paul because they think he is making a mockery of the sport. He comes from a non combat background and starts knocking people out and claiming he can beat Cancelo. That is why if Tommy Fury can knock Jake Paul out he will always be known as the boxer that ended Jake Pauls streak. I do not think you can take that away from him if he does that. If Tommy Fury loses then he loses credibility but I see him as a reality star more then a boxer so I do not think it will affect him much and he gets his biggest pay check of his career. I think that is a win - win.
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For me it is more interesting to watch how both fighters gonna act after the fight. How Jake is going to taunt Tommy and UFC if he wins, how ridiculous Tommy excuses would be, Tommy's father rage. Or how Jake is going to act if he looses. Will he ask for a rematch or excuses that "he is not a professional fighter like others".
It's an interesting point. It could turn into a WWE-style circus if Jake wins and Tommy's dad rips his shirt off again. I'd just like to see some respect between them especially if it's close or a draw. I'd like to see that if one of them wins too. One of them is going to have to give the other props if they win. I did not mean to turn that whole situation into WWE circus, I dont expect them showing each other respect. I only want to see how other promotions and sports react in case Jake or Tommy wins. If Jake wins, he definitely gonna try to make Dana White angry again. UFC fighters gonna ask for raise again or show willingness to switch to boxing. To keep audience and fighters, UFC gonna either make more big fights, or make them fight more often. For me the outcome of this fight will be influensive on UFC. I am not really interested in their fight, I am interested in changes in boxing and UFC that will follow. I don't think this fight has really any bearing on the UFC. Jake will continue to be a thorn in the side of Dana regardless. He's probably more of a threat to the UFC with his own MMA promotion where he's branding it as a 50/50 split between them and the fighters which is obviously an attempt to chip away at the UFC's monopoly and could actually work if they gain some ground as fighter pay is obviously one of the biggest issues with the UFC right now. How would his first loss and to a so called 'youtber' be a win-win? The only win here is the money he's getting but he likely won't get more for a rematch especially if he loses. Jake probably won't rematch if he wins either. He'll just move on to the next step. No point treading water going sideways when there's bigger and better opponents that will progress his career.
Every boxing fan dislikes Jake Paul because they think he is making a mockery of the sport. He comes from a non combat background and starts knocking people out and claiming he can beat Cancelo. That is why if Tommy Fury can knock Jake Paul out he will always be known as the boxer that ended Jake Pauls streak. I do not think you can take that away from him if he does that. If Tommy Fury loses then he loses credibility but I see him as a reality star more then a boxer so I do not think it will affect him much and he gets his biggest pay check of his career. I think that is a win - win. I wouldn't say every fan dislikes him. I was pretty ambivalent towards him but he's certainly earned my respect with his performances and growth and I think it's going to be interesting to see how far he can take this. If he loses to Tommy then a lot of the hype will die down but if he wins then his stock will go up ten fold and who knows where he goes after this. I don't think he's making a mockery of the sport either. He's certainly shaking things up but he's clearly dedicated and serious about the sport. His over-confidence may rub up a lot of people the wrong way but that's how you grab headlines. Also, whilst he hasn't been a boxer for very long in the scheme of things, he and his brother do have combat experience in wrestling going back to high-school/college which is where most combat athletes start. There's also been a lot of fighters that have started off in either wrestling or boxing and moved over to MMA or vice versa. Either way, I don't think it matters if you keep winning or just giving impressive performances.
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Looking at Tommy Fury's record I don't see anybody who can be remotely considered a challenging opponent. Washed up former MMA fighters would have been a massive step up for him. His record is padded with easy wins and now it seems he is ready to cash out. For Jake this is just another name to add to his resume. Even if he wins I still see his career as a joke. Boxrec has these guys ranked at #349 and #378 so a win for either guy won't make them a legitimate contender but they can at least keep the hype going for future celebrity fights they can sell on pay-per-view.
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The argument of Jake Paul not taking the sport seriously is just not accurate. He's dedicated the last few years of his life to the sport. He might've not been a boxer when he was a youngster, but he's still quite young, and obviously has a passion. We all discover our passions at different times in life. Making a mockery would be setting bad match ups, and claiming he's the best in the world. I haven't seen him claim that once.
Jake Paul is actually a decent boxer too. I don't know how far he'll make it, but it's quite clear to me that he has some natural skill, and he's developed that via training. I know why this opinion is lingering around, since I wasn't a fan of Jake, I don't think many people were when he first entered the sport due to his reputation on Youtube. However, for the most part he's actually presented himself quite well, looks somewhat humble, and delivers in the ring. You can't ask for more than that from a boxer. He's not going to be a world beater, but I don't get the obsession that everyone has to be. I support fighters that have no chance of ever holding a belt, simply because I like their style or personality, and Jake Paul is no different there.
He's also put a ton of eyes on the sport, which has to be at least respected.
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The argument of Jake Paul not taking the sport seriously is just not accurate. He's dedicated the last few years of his life to the sport. He might've not been a boxer when he was a youngster, but he's still quite young, and obviously has a passion. We all discover our passions at different times in life. Making a mockery would be setting bad match ups, and claiming he's the best in the world. I haven't seen him claim that once.
Jake Paul is actually a decent boxer too. I don't know how far he'll make it, but it's quite clear to me that he has some natural skill, and he's developed that via training. I know why this opinion is lingering around, since I wasn't a fan of Jake, I don't think many people were when he first entered the sport due to his reputation on Youtube. However, for the most part he's actually presented himself quite well, looks somewhat humble, and delivers in the ring. You can't ask for more than that from a boxer. He's not going to be a world beater, but I don't get the obsession that everyone has to be. I support fighters that have no chance of ever holding a belt, simply because I like their style or personality, and Jake Paul is no different there.
He's also put a ton of eyes on the sport, which has to be at least respected.
I'm sure he is serious not just in boxing, he even organized events and sign a deal with PFL as well. The brothers are smart enough to make money out of thier network and skills. When I saw he won fights against MMA athletes, I end up betting for him and won. He just doesn't get respect from the boxing community though, to them he is still the Disney boy they know in the TV series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQiChfUAbb4
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The argument of Jake Paul not taking the sport seriously is just not accurate. He's dedicated the last few years of his life to the sport. He might've not been a boxer when he was a youngster, but he's still quite young, and obviously has a passion. We all discover our passions at different times in life. Making a mockery would be setting bad match ups, and claiming he's the best in the world. I haven't seen him claim that once.
After he beat Tommy Fury things will be different and he will shut many mouths that think he is just there to make money and have fun, Jake Paul is the pioneer of this, a Youtuber turn boxer who beats respected fighters, he is just too smart that he knows who to fight and how to fight them. This fight will bring Jake to another level and people will take him seriously, people are just curious when he is starting out now they will have to take him seriously on his goal to become a true boxer, his giant leap will start on this fight.
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Looking at Tommy Fury's record I don't see anybody who can be remotely considered a challenging opponent. Washed up former MMA fighters would have been a massive step up for him. His record is padded with easy wins and now it seems he is ready to cash out. For Jake this is just another name to add to his resume. Even if he wins I still see his career as a joke. Boxrec has these guys ranked at #349 and #378 so a win for either guy won't make them a legitimate contender but they can at least keep the hype going for future celebrity fights they can sell on pay-per-view.
This seems like a lazy criticism to me. I wouldn't call either Silva or Woodley washed up and they are both former champions. Whilst it's true they were both older and retired from MMA beating former world champions is still an achievement. Silva had already moved to boxing and had two wins in 2021. Both were only less than two years retired and from MMA which is much tougher than boxing. Now all Jake has to do is to prove that he can do it to someone his own age. The argument of Jake Paul not taking the sport seriously is just not accurate. He's dedicated the last few years of his life to the sport. He might've not been a boxer when he was a youngster, but he's still quite young, and obviously has a passion. We all discover our passions at different times in life. Making a mockery would be setting bad match ups, and claiming he's the best in the world. I haven't seen him claim that once.
Jake Paul is actually a decent boxer too. I don't know how far he'll make it, but it's quite clear to me that he has some natural skill, and he's developed that via training. I know why this opinion is lingering around, since I wasn't a fan of Jake, I don't think many people were when he first entered the sport due to his reputation on Youtube. However, for the most part he's actually presented himself quite well, looks somewhat humble, and delivers in the ring. You can't ask for more than that from a boxer. He's not going to be a world beater, but I don't get the obsession that everyone has to be. I support fighters that have no chance of ever holding a belt, simply because I like their style or personality, and Jake Paul is no different there.
He's also put a ton of eyes on the sport, which has to be at least respected.
Well put. This fight is probably the crossroads for both fighters. If Jake wins then naysayers will have to accept that they're wrong or at least admit he's got what it takes to be in the ring. If he loses then they hype train will instantly be over for Jake in the world of pro boxing and he'll probably just have to stick to being one of the best youtuber boxers. The KSI fight will still probably happen in the fourth quarter of this year win or lose.
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As everything in the world is balanced, then in case Jake looses and his hype train ends, hype train must have started somewhere else. I think that Tommy Fury wont be the one to take over that hype train. Jake Pauls hype train wont end. I think that a loss might even help him. It will show that his fights isnt fixed, he can also lose. Jake is actually in a win-win situation. If he wins, he will continue to hype, if he looses, he can call for a rematch, tell everyone he has restarted, "new me". Audience love that kind of stuff on YouTube.
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As everything in the world is balanced, then in case Jake looses and his hype train ends, hype train must have started somewhere else. I think that Tommy Fury wont be the one to take over that hype train. Jake Pauls hype train wont end. I think that a loss might even help him. It will show that his fights isnt fixed, he can also lose. Jake is actually in a win-win situation. If he wins, he will continue to hype, if he looses, he can call for a rematch, tell everyone he has restarted, "new me". Audience love that kind of stuff on YouTube.
Only idiots think his fights are fixed. It's the same sort of kids who cry that a premier league match is fixed because one of the big teams lost and it fucked up their accumulator . Not a single person who knows what they're talking about would say his fights are fixed but if they were Jake's opponents are in the wrong career and should take up acting because they'd be a shoe-in for an Oscar. Tommy isn't going to go on to become the talk of the town merely over a win. He should win and most in the boxing world expect him to so a mere victory isn't that much to brag about, but if he loses he's probably done in boxing. Or at least should be. Nobody will take him serious and even Tommy himself has said he would quit. I don't know whether he would be true to his word but he'd still be able to make a good career in youtube boxing.
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Only idiots think his fights are fixed.
Yet lots of people still cant believe he has beaten Woodley fairly in first fight, and believe in conspiracy theories that Woodley gave him a sign and on purpose ate that punch People find it hard to admin they failed when they said Jake is zero in boxing Or, it is simply cool to scold celebrities and have opposite opinion / do opposite of what they do. "Tommy would quit" - like he was a serious boxer with ambitions of a champ
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One thing I noticed the other day was Tommy has freakishly long arms: He's got the arms of an ape. They almost look photoshopped. He's also got a pretty powerful jab on him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGlvw_V5WkQDefinitely interesting to see how Jake will defend against those. "Tommy would quit" - like he was a serious boxer with ambitions of a champ Well I think that's his point - he might as well call it quits if he can't beat a so called youtuber. I'm still 50/50 on this fight. Can't see either of them getting a KO and I think both of them will be fairly apprehensive especially in the earlier rounds so I think a decision is on the cards.
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I might not like Jake Paul but I do not think his fights are fixed. He has knocked out his opponents cold and no one can act like Woodley did because he fell on his face without any reaction or trying to put his arms out to break the fall. Who is taller Tommy Fury or Jake Paul? The numbers I see on the internet say different and I never trust them because boxing often inflates their heights. If Tommy Fury is the taller boxer and he has long arms like in the picture I think Jake Paul could struggle. Jake Paul likes to fight at a distance and uses a jab but he will not comfortable at distance with those long arms. Tommy Fury could win on points just by jabbing at Jake Paul all night and Jake struggling to close the distance.
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Jake is going full Mike Tyson with his call-outs now: https://mobile.twitter.com/jakepaul/status/1628431499233042432I might not like Jake Paul but I do not think his fights are fixed. He has knocked out his opponents cold and no one can act like Woodley did because he fell on his face without any reaction or trying to put his arms out to break the fall. Who is taller Tommy Fury or Jake Paul? The numbers I see on the internet say different and I never trust them because boxing often inflates their heights. If Tommy Fury is the taller boxer and he has long arms like in the picture I think Jake Paul could struggle. Jake Paul likes to fight at a distance and uses a jab but he will not comfortable at distance with those long arms. Tommy Fury could win on points just by jabbing at Jake Paul all night and Jake struggling to close the distance.
I don't think I've known of anyone inflating or lying about their height. That would be pretty hard to get away with and I think would be pretty obvious. Tommy isn't taller but I thought he was. Jake is an inch taller and Tommy has 80 inch reach compared to Jake's 76.
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Jake is going full Mike Tyson with his call-outs now: https://mobile.twitter.com/jakepaul/status/1628431499233042432I might not like Jake Paul but I do not think his fights are fixed. He has knocked out his opponents cold and no one can act like Woodley did because he fell on his face without any reaction or trying to put his arms out to break the fall. Who is taller Tommy Fury or Jake Paul? The numbers I see on the internet say different and I never trust them because boxing often inflates their heights. If Tommy Fury is the taller boxer and he has long arms like in the picture I think Jake Paul could struggle. Jake Paul likes to fight at a distance and uses a jab but he will not comfortable at distance with those long arms. Tommy Fury could win on points just by jabbing at Jake Paul all night and Jake struggling to close the distance.
I don't think I've known of anyone inflating or lying about their height. That would be pretty hard to get away with and I think would be pretty obvious. Tommy isn't taller but I thought he was. Jake is an inch taller and Tommy has 80 inch reach compared to Jake's 76. Any boxing media that alter thier stats like reach advantage will not be trusted anymore if they do alter those data. I don't see anyone doing that though because there is already Wikipedia where people are also going to check. And Holy how, a 3-inch advantage by Tommy, he really might punish Jake for what Jakes has been saying. Disney boy's nickname is "The Problem Child" lol it speaks for itself as he calls out all his ancestor's spirits to put a curse on Tommy in his tweet. But yep this is gonna be a good fight. Jake is in good shape. If he can take punches from Tommy, he can lure Tommy to engage and all Jake needs is to counter.
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