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January 20, 2023, 05:45:21 PM
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I have a question for you.

Having someone put you in their ignore list and having someone distrusting you, which one is more damaging?

I guess it is distrusting, because it will reduce your trust score and affect your overall forum reputation. But ignoring someone doesn't have any public impact but personal impact. It could be you don't want to see the persons posts.
So, if trust list can be view, ignore list should also.

I have a different perspective on this. Firstly, trust lists are made public in order to prevent manipulation, as they have a significant impact on how the trust system functions overall. Whereas, as you mentioned, ignore lists only affect an individual's experience on the forum.

However, if ignore lists were made public, they would have a much greater detrimental and adverse effect on the individuals who are included on them. Not only would it potentially damage their reputation within the community, but it could also lead to the exclusion of such members from any marketing campaigns and job opportunities on the forum. The perception of being on an ignore list by a significant number of reputable community members could discourage managers from hiring such individuals.

Additionally, making ignore lists public would likely discourage individuals from expressing their opinions or participating in discussions, as they would fear being added to an ignore list and facing the associated consequences. Ultimately, this would likely lead to a less inclusive and less healthy community.


I read a good point from your posts. If ignore list is made public, some reputable members may convert it to be their armour of war and intimidation. When a member is in the ignore list of upto 10 members, that particular user may become unhireable by any manager. This cannot happen if everyone distrust a user. Unless they are given neg tags.
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January 20, 2023, 06:12:48 PM
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I read a good point from your posts. If ignore list is made public, some reputable members may convert it to be their armour of war and intimidation. When a member is in the ignore list of upto 10 members, that particular user may become unhireable by any manager. This cannot happen if everyone distrust a user. Unless they are given neg tags.
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Since the ignore list is private, this analysis is not very logical. Because a manager doesn't know if that user is being ignored by others or not.

The only way for this to happen is for the manager to have also ignored that user, otherwise he will be seen as any other user.

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January 20, 2023, 06:59:25 PM
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Since the ignore list is private, this analysis is not very logical. Because a manager doesn't know if that user is being ignored by others or not.

The only way for this to happen is for the manager to have also ignored that user, otherwise he will be seen as any other user.

It appears that you may not have fully comprehended the context of the posts you are replying to. We were discussing a hypothetical situation in which ignore lists were made public. Clearly, that is not the current state of affairs.

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January 20, 2023, 07:54:34 PM
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It appears that you may not have fully comprehended the context of the posts you are replying to. We were discussing a hypothetical situation in which ignore lists were made public. Clearly, that is not the current state of affairs.

Okay, I hadn't understood it that way.
In that sense, yes, some users would no longer be able to participate in campaigns, mainly those that were ignored by DT users.

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January 21, 2023, 10:17:50 AM
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Lately I've been wondering if we can find out who ignored us.
Is there any way to find out who ignored us?  Huh
Then you go to war if you knew 😂. I believe there are users you ignored too. Would you want them to know they're ignored by you? I think it's best not to bother one's brain about a minute issue like that. I'm sure there are users on whose ignore list I am but I don't want to let that bother me a bit. They must've their reasons for taking such an action but I'm not going to be bothered by their action. That's a past for me. Anything past shouldn't be a weight on anyone. There's a reason a vehicle's windscreen is bigger than its side mirrors. The windscreen sees the front and that's the future while the side mirrors are for things behind (past).

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January 21, 2023, 11:38:59 AM
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If you are worried whether or not a particular user ignored you, that is a good indicator that they were likely right to do so in the first place.
People get into fights for reasons that have nothing to do with the quality of someone's posting. Because of those conflicts, you might end up on that person's ignore list. Everyone has the right to ignore anyone they want to, but I have always looked at that list as a place where you put the worst spammers of them all and not someone you disagreed with for whatever reason.

But I don't think these lists should be public and it's a good thing they aren't. Imagine if you could see the people who reported your posts for rule violations and the drama that would ensue? Instead of a normal discussion board, this would turn into a payback community where many would hold grudges against others and look to get them into the same problems they were in.

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I don't think who you've ignored should be public. All it would do is cause drama and arguments. Back in the day I believe people's ignore button would glow different colours depending on how many people had ignored you but that was removed. If you really want to ignore someone just ignore them and don't respond to their posts. You can usually tell who has ignored you though because ironically they will tell you at every opportunity which is of course the digital/online equivalent of sticking your fingers in both your ears and going "nah, nah, I can't hear you"  Grin.


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January 21, 2023, 02:54:45 PM
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Then you go to war if you knew 😂. I believe there are users you ignored too.

I don't happen to have anyone!  Cool

Never click that button, because it will be very difficult for a user to bother me at that point. If you need to ignore a post, ignore it without resorting to this feature. Hardly a user will bother me. If I really don't like someone, just don't reply to their comments, that's the best way to handle the situation. But, I can say that this doesn't happen to me here, I like to get along with everyone.

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January 21, 2023, 05:45:55 PM
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Never click that button, because it will be very difficult for a user to bother me at that point. If you need to ignore a post, ignore it without resorting to this feature. Hardly a user will bother me. If I really don't like someone, just don't reply to their comments, that's the best way to handle the situation.
People change, but if you ignored them early on in their forum stay and never bothered to check their posting after that, you might not notice that change. There are examples of spammers and bounty hunters who came here for free tokens and shitcoins, tried it out, realized how pointless it is, so they changed their attitudes and became integrated in the normal workflow of the forum. If it made sense having such members on ignore at the beginning of their Bitcointalk 'careers', it doesn't any longer.

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January 21, 2023, 06:14:59 PM
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People change, but if you ignored them early on in their forum stay and never bothered to check their posting after that, you might not notice that change. There are examples of spammers and bounty hunters who came here for free tokens and shitcoins, tried it out, realized how pointless it is, so they changed their attitudes and became integrated in the normal workflow of the forum. If it made sense having such members on ignore at the beginning of their Bitcointalk 'careers', it doesn't any longer.

Exactly. If you ignore them, you wouldn't see that change, and you could spend a long time ignoring someone who now even brings value to the community. Attention, I understand the idea of the ignore feature, for my style it's just not useful. But for those who find it useful, let it be used well.

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Then you go to war if you knew 😂. I believe there are users you ignored too.

I don't happen to have anyone!  Cool
Well, then, you must be one of the very few early members of this forum (pre-2015) who doesn't. I get to read comments here where veteran members talk about how they easily place other users on their ignore list because of slight provocation or disagreement in principle. For me, I don't have any ish with users placing other users on ignore for whatsoever reason because I know it's a matter of choice and doesn't get above that. The one I don't like is when users try to lord it over others like they hold the oxygen they breathe.

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January 24, 2023, 07:15:20 PM
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Now that is something one should not be interested about. If there is ignore feature then that is for a reason man, it clearly indicates someone doesn’t want to see the messages because they either dislike the person, dislike their posts or something else which probably triggered them to click the ignore button next to the profile.

Also, what one is going to do if they come to know someone has ignored them? Talk to them? Make oneself look like too kind to go and talk about it?

Jeez I can’t even get proper reply from my neighbour when I greet them in the morning despite the fact that we once shared beer together.  So you stop greeting them and drink beer with friends / gang.  Tongue Tongue



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Jeez I can’t even get proper reply from my neighbour when I greet them in the morning despite the fact that we once shared beer together.  So you stop greeting them and drink beer with friends / gang.  Tongue Tongue

It's true... sometimes it would be useful to have an "ignore" button in real life, so we don't have to put up with some people.  Grin Cool

Maybe one day ... Like an episode of the "Black Mirror" series portrayed the connection between social networks and real life.

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Jeez I can’t even get proper reply from my neighbour when I greet them in the morning despite the fact that we once shared beer together.  So you stop greeting them and drink beer with friends / gang.  Tongue Tongue

It's true... sometimes it would be useful to have an "ignore" button in real life, so we don't have to put up with some people.  Grin Cool

Maybe one day ... Like an episode of the "Black Mirror" series portrayed the connection between social networks and real life.
But sometimes the person we are ignoring has nothing against us, the person has free mind towards us but on our own we just ignore the person probably because of a mistake he does in the process of communicating, why can't we tell him or her mistake, instead of ignoring the person. Personally I don't like people that talk too much, I use to avoid them and that doesn't mean I won't greet them, I still greet them but I don't associate with them in any activity.
Here in the forum we learn from one another. We don't know whether the person we are ignoring has the information we were looking for for a very long time and if we are ignoring the user and the information has been dropped, how will we know it.

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January 25, 2023, 08:43:15 AM
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Having someone put you in their ignore list and having someone distrusting you, which one is more damaging?
None! I believe, when used correctly, both improve someone's forum experience. More people should just ignore each other instead of starting long, damaging feuts.



Back in the day I believe people's ignore button would glow different colours depending on how many people had ignored you but that was removed.
That could save time in identifying shitposters instead of wasting time reading their posts, but it can also be abused. So maybe it's for the best we don't have that feature anymore.

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I will like to ask if i put a user on ignore, will he be able to send me PM? i need to have this clarification because I've discovered recently on receiving unsolicited messages on my PM which i will love to stop the sender against future reoccurrence, i think this will help me more if possible than reporting them to moderators which may also get them into more troubles, any PM i received and suspect them to be abnormal will get the sender ignored by me.

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January 25, 2023, 09:07:02 AM
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Lately I've been wondering if we can find out who ignored us.
Is there any way to find out who ignored us?  Huh
Then you go to war if you knew 😂. I believe there are users you ignored too. Would you want them to know they're ignored by you? I think it's best not to bother one's brain about a minute issue like that. I'm sure there are users on whose ignore list I am but I don't want to let that bother me a bit. They must've their reasons for taking such an action but I'm not going to be bothered by their action. That's a past for me. Anything past shouldn't be a weight on anyone. There's a reason a vehicle's windscreen is bigger than its side mirrors. The windscreen sees the front and that's the future while the side mirrors are for things behind (past).

Yes, that's right, I agree with your point of view. Personally, I don't see any need to know who ignores us. Basically, I don't see any need for an ignore list.

I honestly do not know what is the great benefit of the forum from having such a list, as it increases conflicts in the forum and leads to personal hatred between some members at times.

Even spammers should not be put in ignore list or we will not be able to read their posts and report them.


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January 25, 2023, 09:19:33 AM
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On your profile settings there are two different ignore lists. One under "Ignore user options" which simply hides the ignored user’s posts from you (but has no effect on PMs), and another under "Personal Message Options", which does what you want (the latter).

Note:
I’ve personally got both of those lists empty, and although I (seldom) use the former every now and then, I also resort to clearing it periodically.
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January 25, 2023, 11:09:24 AM
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Lately I've been wondering if we can find out who ignored us.
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Yes, it is possible. You just need to PM him to ask him if you have your doubts.
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January 25, 2023, 03:17:27 PM
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Having someone put you in their ignore list and having someone distrusting you, which one is more damaging?
None! I believe, when used correctly, both improve someone's forum experience. More people should just ignore each other instead of starting long, damaging feuts.

If the person has not managed to devalue these users' posts, then it is even better to use the ignore option to avoid getting into disputes with that user. And not involving the community in these debates.

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