Unstoppable wallet {User experiences}

[LoyceV]

It is not suggesting you to give up your coins, they are technical indicators.

I know what it says, my point is it's a weird thing to see when I was hoping to see my transaction history.

But you are right, wallets should not be for trading. Although, those are not the real indicators, it is only suggesting buy or sell

What if you're a Newbie, got this wallet recommended, bought your first Bitcoin, and then the wallet tells you "sell"! I'm not sure yet if I'll be recommending this wallet.

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[virasog]

But you are right, wallets should not be for trading. Although, those are not the real indicators, it is only suggesting buy or sell but not indicating it in candle sticks that will tell the information in charts instead of suggesting it. In my opinion, I do not see it useful and candle sticks indicators would be better and not misleading.

I wonder where they are getting this data from ?

My guess is that they get this data from the trading view which also shows similar type of technicals.

What if you're a Newbie, got this wallet recommended, bought your first Bitcoin, and then the wallet tells you "sell"! I'm not sure yet if I'll be recommending this wallet.

A Newbie will not buy and sell based on this indication because he wouldn't know how to use the swap option in the unstoppable wallet. By the time he learns the swapping coins, he should be familiar with basic trading and know what he is doing (when to buy/sell). If he just experiments with different options in the wallet without learning, then it is only his mistake.
Don't know why people won't drive a car on the highway until they have sufficient experience, but they will experiment with their crypto with incomplete knowledge.

[AprilioMP]

It is not suggesting you to give up your coins, they are technical indicators.

By default, the timeframe is 1 day. That means it is giving the information based on one day analyses which can only be useful for day traders. It has 1 hours, 4 hours, 1 day and a week indicator. 1, 4 hours and 1 day are useful for days traders while 1 week is useful for swing traders. Indicators may also not be accurate and that makes trading to be dangerous. As a holder, you will not bother to check something like that.

As a new user of the unstoppable wallet, I agree that the technical indicators contained in the unstoppable wallet will not be the user's focus because trading users have their own strategies in determining when to buy and sell.
At least with the availability of hang technical indicators containing periods of 1 hour, 4 hours, 1 day and 1 week, unstoppable wallet users who often carry out routine transactions get an idea that can strengthen their plans for that time when trading on other exchanges.

[dkbit98]

I've never seen a crypto wallet that basically tells me to give up on crypto

I have this option disabled because I don't care about current fiat values and analytics so much, and it is just a distraction for me.
And why would you even care about default settings for anything you use?
Do you buy smartphone, car, tv and other crap and just use default settings or you set it up like it fits you.
This is basically just like buying a new car but not changing seat position to fit your height, or turning on air conditioning to hot during summertime...  

Easy ''fix'':
Appearance - Tab Settings - Markets Tab - Switch Off.
 

[LoyceV]

I've never seen a crypto wallet that basically tells me to give up on crypto

I have this option disabled

How? I can just not click the "bar graph icon", but I haven't found where to remove it.

And why would you even care about default settings for anything you use?

Good point. I guess I had higher expectations after the many good things I've read about Unstoppable Wallet.

Easy ''fix'':
Appearance - Tab Settings - Markets Tab - Switch Off.

I did, that removes the tab on the bottom of the wallet. But the "bar graph icon" is still there. If I click it, I can Hide Indicators, but that doesn't seem to change anything.

[Charles-Tim]

Unstoppable wallet version 0.35 released: https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-android/releases

The Wallet is separate from the Transactions. I'd expect to see all Transactions "under" each coin, instead of on a separate tab where I either see all coins, or have to select one again.

This feature is on the new version. Click on the coin and you will see the transaction history.

Edit:
I am unable to see the technical indicator again, but also on the older version. Am I correct? I think the analytic tab is replaced by 'overview'. I am not that using Unstoppable wallet until now, the reason I forgot about this easily.

[LoyceMobile]

Version 0.35 shows "Failed to Connect Tor".

[virasog]

Unstoppable wallet version 0.35 released: https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-android/releases

The Wallet is separate from the Transactions. I'd expect to see all Transactions "under" each coin, instead of on a separate tab where I either see all coins, or have to select one again.

This feature is on the new version. Click on the coin and you will see the transaction history.

Edit:
I am unable to see the technical indicator again, but also on the older version. Am I correct? I think the analytic tab is replaced by 'overview'. I am not that using Unstoppable wallet until now, the reason I forgot about this easily.

Just updated my Unstoppable Wallet to the latest version. Below is the key highlights shown of this update when I was downloading it.




In the markets tab, i see only Overview, News and Watchlist. The transaction tab will show all the transactions. Don't remember how it was before the upgrade as i don't actively use the wallet. Only using it mainly for storing the altcoins for the mid to long term.  Anyway i like the new interface.

[Charles-Tim]

Version 0.35 shows "Failed to Connect Tor".

I have not used it with Tor (Orbot to be specific) before, but it failed when I tested it. I am surprised that the last update before version 0.35 also failed when I tested it just right now

   

I used Tor with Electrum wallet and it showed the blue ball at the upper right corner. I hope Unstoppable wallet developers will look into this.

[AprilioMP]

Unstoppable wallet version 0.35 released: https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-android/releases
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I almost missed the update info to version 0.35 and the application I'm using is still at version 0.34.1. I will update soon after this.


Of the three new updates to the unstoppable wallet version via github.com/horizontalsystems, there is a good sentence in the BUG FIXES section,

Stay tuned for more updates as we strive to make our wallet the best it can be.

There will be other updates that will be carried out by Unstoppable.

In the SEAMLESS DONATIONS section of the version 0.35 update highlights, what does this mean?

[Charles-Tim]

In the SEAMLESS DONATIONS section of the version 0.35 update highlights, what does this mean?

On version 0.34.1. If you click on donate, you will see three addresses (bitcoin, ethereum and binance smart chain address) that you can copy and use for donation.

On version 0.35. If you click on donate, you will see the lists of coins that you enabled and the amount each has and you can click on any coin and proceed to donate directly.

[dkbit98]

How? I can just not click the "bar graph icon", but I haven't found where to remove it.

I just clicked hexagonal settings icon, than in Appearance I disabled Market Tab.
After that I only have three icons on the bottom, first for coin balance, second for transactions, and third one for settings.
I was using wallet version 0.34.1 and no issues for me so far.

Version 0.35 shows "Failed to Connect Tor".

I never had issue with Tor on older versions, and I always keep it turned ON in settings.
I will wait a bit before updating to latest version 0.35, current one works just fine for me.

[joniboini]

I have this weird issue where sometimes Unstoppable Wallet is very slow on syncing or even fails when there is no change with my internet connection. I also failed to connect to Tor. One solution is to restart the app but sometimes it does not work. Not sure what exactly is the issue here. Is there any way to see the logs to figure out what is wrong with the app?

[tech30338]

I have tried to download the wallet today, I like the features in the market where if you want to know which coins are up and which coins are down like gainers and losers in coinmarketcap, the seed phrase where you can choose how many words, 15, 18, 21, and 24, have anyone tried the timelock, it says experimental at the moment, it also has news which, I think also helps when you want to see which coins will have an uptrend because of news good features, ill try later to transfer funds.

[AprilioMP]

In the SEAMLESS DONATIONS section of the version 0.35 update highlights, what does this mean?

On version 0.34.1. If you click on donate, you will see three addresses (bitcoin, ethereum and binance smart chain address) that you can copy and use for donation.

On version 0.35. If you click on donate, you will see the lists of coins that you enabled and the amount each has and you can click on any coin and proceed to donate directly.

I have seen the donation display in the version 0.35 update after I updated the application. It turns out that the coins I activated actually appeared in the donation section, because for bitcoin I only activated two BIP84 and BIP44.

When I was on version 0.34.1, before version 0.35, I didn't pay attention to the types of coins available in the donation section.
Thanks for you.

[joniboini]

ave anyone tried the timelock, it says experimental at the moment, it also has news which, I think also helps when you want to see which coins will have an uptrend because of news good features, ill try later to transfer funds.

Are you familiar with timelock transactions or not? Maybe you should read some threads related to it before you try it. I don't see the point of making an experiment with it unless you have some need to make timelock-related transactions, especially if you're not that familiar with how it works. Not to mention they labeled it as an experimental feature. I'd rather wait and see until it becomes stable.

[AprilioMP]

I have tried to download the wallet today, I like the features in the market where if you want to know which coins are up and which coins are down like gainers and losers in coinmarketcap,

It seems that it is not recommended by them to use features such as market indicators in the unstoppable wallet in trading. It is impossible for us to buy coins when the display there says buy while the personal decision to buy cannot be made at that time.

have anyone tried the timelock, it says experimental at the moment, it also has news which, I think also helps when you want to see which coins will have an uptrend because of news good features, ill try later to transfer funds.

I don't know how it works and my knowledge of timelocks is non-existent. I won't use things that I don't know that could pose a risk of loss. Maybe I need to learn about timelocks before trying this.
This cannot be separated from what Joniboini said, that I am not familiar with timelocks.

[Charles-Tim]

I don't know how it works and my knowledge of timelocks is non-existent. I won't use things that I don't know that could pose a risk of loss. Maybe I need to learn about timelocks before trying this.

There is nothing hard about lock time. But I see it better on wallets like Electrum or using Coinb.in for it. On the wallet I just mentioned, you can decide to also use a specific date and time, or you can use blockheight instead. On Electrum, you can even use unix time if you want.

On Unstoppable wallet, once you have enabled timelock under settings, and you want to make bitcoin transaction, you can set the time you want the bitcoin transaction to be broadcasted.

      

I do not like how the time lock is on Unstoppable for now, but some people may like as is it.

I do not see how it can lead to loss of coins, it can not. But it is possible that the time lock may not work as expected which might be the experimental Unstoppable wallet developers are referring to.

I will prefer to know the version they introduced timelock.

[Charles-Tim]

Version 0.35.1 released, to resolve Tor issue: https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-android/releases




Anytime I connect Orbot, it always still fail Tor, but if I did not connect Orbot, it did not fail again as it was in version 0.35.0. Is Unstoppable having inbuilt Tor?

[LoyceV]

Version 0.35.1 released, to resolve Tor issue: https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-android/releases

Good news, I can sync again

Is Unstoppable having inbuilt Tor?

It must have it, I don't use Orbot.

My initial estimate of long-term bandwidth consumption was way off. It's "only" 1.4 GB in a few weeks now. Not great, not terrible.