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Question: Who should be in prison more
SBF - 56 (88.9%)
Ross Ulbricht - 6 (9.5%)
non of them... - 1 (1.6%)
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March 08, 2023, 10:50:05 AM
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I am new to this forum. In fact I know nothing about the two men mentioned here. But after reading everyone's posts here and later with more information I found two men committed a heinous crime. Ross Ulbricht's is the lesser of the two heinous crimes. He created Silk Road, a website through which darknet market illegal activities were conducted. And he was sentenced to two life terms and fined for creating this website. So far he is a convicted accused.

SBF who is the most hated person in the crime world. The crime he committed was the FTX bankruptcy. FTX bankruptcy has completely destroyed the entire cryptocurrency market. For which the market has not been able to solve so far. Many investors lost their investments. Finally, unable to bear their loss, they chose to commit suicide. Why was this man allowed to stay with his family on bail from jail despite committing so many crimes. My question is that the SBF should give Ross Ulbricht a longer sentence and keep him in jail. So that after seeing their punishment, no one should have the courage to commit such a crime.
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March 08, 2023, 10:57:20 AM
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Ross Ulbricht is in jail and SBF is doing speaking engagements with Zelenskyyand Yellen. There’s nothing more infuriating.
At least Ulbricht created a genuine free market which will have contributed to the US economy for good or ill.
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March 08, 2023, 02:21:50 PM
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SBF who is the most hated person in the crime world. 

Huh
I'm not exactly an expert on the crime (under)world, but I highly doubt that he holds the title for "most hated person" among those circles.   Cheesy

FTX bankruptcy has completely destroyed the entire cryptocurrency market. For which the market has not been able to solve so far.

Let me check some facts for you:

The BTC price before the FTX collapse was approximately $21,000. As of today, the BTC price is around $22,000 (although it was around $25,000 just 15 days ago). The total cryptocurrency market cap before the FTX collapse was just over $1 trillion. Today, the market cap is still a little over $1 trillion. So, why do you think the market hasn't recovered since then? Also, I definitely don't agree that the FTX bankruptcy destroyed the cryptocurrency market, so I'm curious where you got that from.

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March 09, 2023, 04:03:19 AM
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Criminals will commit crimes and after committing crimes, when they are brought under the law, they will plan how to escape from the law. There are two characters in this story and both the characters are criminals and because of the crime the administration brings both of them under the law till now everything is fine. But the law has made two kinds of decisions in respect of two characters.
 
If the criminals were given full punishment by the law after committing the crime and if those sentences were carried out then maybe there would not be so many big crimes in the world. Every criminal thinks ten times about the punishment before committing such a crime. But here the law lends itself to them. Many serious crimes can now be reduced by money, which further encourages criminals to commit crimes. Until the justice system changes people will continue to commit crimes and it will increase.


Political support is one of the refuges of criminals.  Maximum criminals work under political leaders. No matter how great the crime they commit, they are always forgiven.  Meanwhile, even if the criminal is not punished, the general public is affected. If we come to the context of SBF then we can clearly see that here the loss is to the general public.  The publican who embezzled so much money is now at home with his family. So the government system should think about the people and those who take all these decisions should first imagine themselves in the place of the person who has deposited all his wealth in the Ftx exchange.  If they think like this and ever make a decision, I hope the decision never goes in favor of criminals.

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All the members who have been accused and arrested for their involvement in the "Silk Road" have been sentenced to various terms. Some have been sentenced to 10 years, some five years, some six years, some five months, some six months etc. But just look at the sentence of Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht, who was sentenced to two life terms and 40 more years without parole. The sentence was lenient in all cases, but only in the case of Ross Ulbricht, the sentence was irregular. I think his sentence should be reconsidered.

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March 09, 2023, 08:45:33 AM
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The information you mentioned did not hurt the Bitcoin market in any way due to the bankruptcy on the FTX platform.  Rather, another one was developed that touched 25K, the fastest growing Bitcoin market in 2023.

The point is Ross Ulbricht -Sam Bankman Fried (SBF) these two men committed the crime.  Ross Ulbricht proved to be the man who deserved the longest sentence for whatever crime he committed.

Meanwhile, SBF has proven to be a common criminal in the eyes of the law by defrauding thousands of people.  Still under house arrest for paying illegal money to the law.  Thousands of people are demanding punishment for the owner of an FTX due to SBF's crimes.  This claim should be carefully looked into by the legal persons of the United States.

And so that he does not get another chance to deceive people, there is a movement to punish him for this.

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U.S. law enforcement officials and attorneys have led to Sam Backman's acquittal. He is under house arrest after breaking out of jail by committing totally illegal scams and paying bribes. According to me SBF should be killed by crossfire. In the future, the common people cannot be cheated by engaging in any other bad activities. I am totally in favor of punishing the SBF.

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U.S. law enforcement officials and attorneys have led to Sam Backman's acquittal. He is under house arrest after breaking out of jail by committing totally illegal scams and paying bribes. According to me SBF should be killed by crossfire. In the future, the common people cannot be cheated by engaging in any other bad activities. I am totally in favor of punishing the SBF.
I don't know US law enforcement officials and attorneys acquitted Sam Backman. He can be on bail. Because we saw a few days ago, new charges were brought against him. Is it possible to acquit him of such a crime? However, the victims can heave a sigh of relief if the court finds them guilty and gives befitting punishment. If he is not punished then very soon there will be a bigger criminal than him ‍and the administration, law and courts will be responsible for this.

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March 09, 2023, 04:18:20 PM
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All the members who have been accused and arrested for their involvement in the "Silk Road" have been sentenced to various terms. Some have been sentenced to 10 years, some five years, some six years, some five months, some six months etc. But just look at the sentence of Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht, who was sentenced to two life terms and 40 more years without parole. The sentence was lenient in all cases, but only in the case of Ross Ulbricht, the sentence was irregular. I think his sentence should be reconsidered.
I think Ross Ulbricht was given the maximum sentence. It was found that all the other criminals were not punished so much they committed crimes and were punished less. But it was different in the case of Ross Ulbricht, who was sentenced to life in prison. While "Silk Road" used the website for many crimes and sentenced them. They are living well now but Ross Ulbricht is still serving his life in prison. I really can't accept that he has been punished so much." Court I want Ross Ulbricht sentence reduced.

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March 09, 2023, 11:50:49 PM
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The both of them deserve to be in prison because the art of scam is a fraudulent criminal art so both of them conspired together an Carry out the same art so thy deserved the same punishment I thnk the both of them should be in jail to avoid more havoc or criminal activities.
Both R Ulbricht and SBF should be punished for the type of activities they have committed but in this case the punishment varies, one to life in prison (2×life+Extra40) and the other to life under house arrest with family bond. But R Ulbricht, the founder of Silk Road, did not run his company for the purpose he created it, he essentially turned his company into a hub for drug trafficking. His biggest mistake was that he ran his organization independently without being a face of any political party. On the other hand SBF had a major role in the bankruptcy of his company FTX. Due to the role played by the political circles, his punishment has been greatly reduced and at some point his punishment will be greatly reduced. But Silk Road founder R Ulbricht is currently supporting various educational awareness, teaching and financial support for the incarcerated family members in prisons and has set up the Art4Giving Charity for this. However, although appeals have been made to the government regarding his punishment and re-investigation of his trial, no positive decision has been taken so far by the law department of the government. The government should waive his sentence and reinvestigate it.

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March 09, 2023, 11:57:11 PM
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U.S. law enforcement officials and attorneys have led to Sam Backman's acquittal. He is under house arrest after breaking out of jail by committing totally illegal scams and paying bribes. According to me SBF should be killed by crossfire. In the future, the common people cannot be cheated by engaging in any other bad activities. I am totally in favor of punishing the SBF.
I don't know US law enforcement officials and attorneys acquitted Sam Backman. He can be on bail. Because we saw a few days ago, new charges were brought against him. Is it possible to acquit him of such a crime? However, the victims can heave a sigh of relief if the court finds them guilty and gives befitting punishment. If he is not punished then very soon there will be a bigger criminal than him ‍and the administration, law and courts will be responsible for this.

Money can speak up everything so maybe he use his influence to temporarily escape the jail but I still believe the law and victims will get proper justice to what they experience to this guy. SBF deserve biggest punishment because for sure this is what their scam victim wants so that he suffer and regret on what he do to many people also to his greed for money. He's big criminal already and if he didn't get punish on this case then provability he will just repeat this then scam again another set of people so government should prosecute this guy to avoid another financial loss again.

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Currently FTX owns $9 billion in customer funds destroyed. FTX's owner Sam Backman Fried allegedly allowed Alameda to borrow more than $9 billion in assets from customer accounts, according to a presentation to customers. Sam Bankman Fried currently faces 12 federal charges.  More victims filed lawsuits against him. Re-sentences are long-standing and file for incarceration. Later SBF should not get a chance to commit any crime.

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Money can speak up everything so maybe he use his influence to temporarily escape the jail but I still believe the law and victims will get proper justice to what they experience to this guy. SBF deserve biggest punishment because for sure this is what their scam victim wants so that he suffer and regret on what he do to many people also to his greed for money. He's big criminal already and if he didn't get punish on this case then provability he will just repeat this then scam again another set of people so government should prosecute this guy to avoid another financial loss again.

But he brought his sentence from jail to his home with a huge amount of money. It is normal for criminals to be sentenced to prison if they commit a crime but house arrest with family is never included in the sentence. And the crime he has committed must suffer the severest punishment.  That is, he should be kept in such a prison that no sunlight ever enters, that is, he should feel that he is in hell from earth. Because many people committed suicide due to his scam. Therefore, the court should reconsider the matter and give due weight to the sentence received by SBS.

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March 10, 2023, 11:48:19 PM
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But he brought his sentence from jail to his home with a huge amount of money. It is normal for criminals to be sentenced to prison if they commit a crime but house arrest with family is never included in the sentence. And the crime he has committed must suffer the severest punishment.  That is, he should be kept in such a prison that no sunlight ever enters, that is, he should feel that he is in hell from earth. Because many people committed suicide due to his scam. Therefore, the court should reconsider the matter and give due weight to the sentence received by SBS.
Currently the Judiciary and Law lose to money. One thing we should really keep in mind is that if these people commit such heinous crimes they are not punished then there are many people who will not hesitate to do such heinous acts. If SBF was punished severely, the whole world would have seen it. And to do such things later, they must have followed this punishment and refrained from such things. I myself am a victim investor in the SBF scam. I hate his easy sentence as a victim investor. I again demand that he should be re-sentenced and imprisoned for life.
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Political support is one of the refuges of criminals.  Maximum criminals work under political leaders. No matter how great the crime they commit, they are always forgiven.  Meanwhile, even if the criminal is not punished, the general public is affected. If we come to the context of SBF then we can clearly see that here the loss is to the general public.  The publican who embezzled so much money is now at home with his family. So the government system should think about the people and those who take all these decisions should first imagine themselves in the place of the person who has deposited all his wealth in the Ftx exchange.  If they think like this and ever make a decision, I hope the decision never goes in favor of criminals.
You have rightly said that law is the most important contributor to politics in the current era. Of course we have seen SBF he may have been identified and connected with some major political party due to which he was acquitted of his crime. In all the countries of the present era, the political leaders have bought the hands of the law. Instead of punishing the criminals, they set them free in the political arena. At present SBF is the biggest crook and the criminal punished him by law but later he was released. The fact that he was released after committing such a big crime must mean that he has connections with SBF and various political leaders.

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The punishment that was given to Sam Bankman Fried isn't good enough, why?  Because SBF has destroyed the lives of so many people and most of them have lost their lives because of his terrible act.
For the supreme court to verdict, SBF to jail for 115 isn't good enough because, after 115 years in jail, he might come out and commit another crime.
C'mon bro 115 years isn't good enough? Well for me I think that verdict really cuts it but that's if actually he will stay that long in prison because everyone knows how the system works, it won't even be a surprise if he can manipulate his way out of the sentence. But I know one thing that is for sure, no one can actually serve such long jail sentence and still come with such mindset of defrauding others. For starters the prison is an environment for correction of ill character and behaviors for humans, its no longer called a prison in my region the government had to change the name to a correctional center for restricted individuals.
He was sentenced to 115 years in prison for his crimes.  Many times it is seen that if a person is killed, the court sentences him to life imprisonment. I think 115 years imprisonment is much more than life imprisonment. And the reason behind his getting such a big sentence is because he embezzled huge amount of people's money. But everyone was happy to hear about his 115-year jail term but when the news of his house arrest came out, everyone spoke against him and against the court. All were saying the same thing that the court had sold out to money. But when the SBF sentence comes into effect, all those who protested against its verdict will get a little relief. Those who had deposited their wealth in its exchange may have forgotten their hope of getting their money back now that their only hope is that the person who defrauded them is severely punished and executed. Hope the court will look into these matters and give the sbf a befitting sentence.
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Sam Bankman Fried "SBF" is moving to the top of various crimes. It is best if SBF is sentenced in the current situation because the list of crimes will increase as the days go by. Since embezzling people's money, he has bribed court officials and bribed officials of the judiciary.  These are serious crimes in the eyes of the law so he should not be allowed to commit any more crimes. He should be brought under the law as soon as possible and punished accordingly. He bribed various people to get the chance of house arrest so I think he should be jailed and given the longest sentence.
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There were three transfers from US law enforcement wallets.  These wallets were seized by US companies in 2021 and contained 51,000 BTC linked to the marketplace, combining two Wall addresses.


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Bitcoins were transferred from Silk Road to three different addresses. Therefore Silk Road was a prominent online black market that was opened in 2011 by Ross Ulbricht.

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Sam Bankman Fried's sentence was reduced even after he committed a much larger crime. The entire FTX was destroyed and all the people's wealth vanished in an instant. and has embezzled the wealth of thousands of people. Despite committing such a heinous crime, he is usually in prison under house arrest. I for my part hate the lawmen and the SBF. Hanging him to death would be the best punishment.

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March 13, 2023, 05:25:15 AM
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In my opinion SBF like Ross Ulbricht should be sentenced to life in prison.

Ross Ulbricht had a company called Skill Road. He used to sell illegal drugs there. Because of this, the court sentenced him to life imprisonment.

SBF on the other hand destroys the crypto market. He has wasted billions of FTX investors. Many have committed suicide because of it. A case was filed against SBF. He was sentenced to 115 years in prison after being found guilty of fraud alone in this case. A special plea deal allows him to remain under house arrest with his family.

Because he wasted many people's pain and money. Due to this many commit suicide. SBF destroys people's faith. Because of this the crypto market suffers a lot. Therefore, he should be sentenced to life imprisonment
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In my opinion SBF like Ross Ulbricht should be sentenced to life in prison.

Ross Ulbricht had a company called Skill Road. He used to sell illegal drugs there. Because of this, the court sentenced him to life imprisonment.

SBF on the other hand destroys the crypto market. He has wasted billions of FTX investors. Many have committed suicide because of it. A case was filed against SBF. He was sentenced to 115 years in prison after being found guilty of fraud alone in this case. A special plea deal allows him to remain under house arrest with his family.
Both Samuel Bankman-Fried and Ross Ulbricht have been involved in various illegal activities and both are notorious criminals who ineligible for any bail. SBF has been accused of market manipulation and insider trading where Ross Ulbricht was the founder of Silk Road, an online marketplace of illegal goods and services. One is serving a felony sentence and the other is still fighting a legal battle with his case still pending, so the SBF has yet to receive a sentence.

However, no one can yet predict what the SBF punishment will be as it is the legal system and courts determine the appropriate punishment for each crime based on the evidence and circumstances of the case.

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