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The line between people ending up in prison for long time or just not is so thin in a world of scams, being open minded etc...
Curious , do you think one deserves prison more as the other, one doesn't deserve prison? Both should be there? None should?

How do you guys think about what they did and should or shouldn't they belong in prison?

Both of them deserve equal punishment. Life imprisonment is the best for both.
But if you ask me personally, silk road was more deadly than ftx, many might have different opinions though :) I heard Ross was even involved in crimes like "paying for murders"?!

That’s what the movie Silk Road told us, but would it be truth?

Isn't the level of crime committed by Ross Ulbricht, can't be compromised anymore.


If this is the goal, Ross Ulbricht, it's time to end it all.
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no trade-off, Ross Ulbricht, who should be in jail.

i saw the documentary about it. it could be that it's just the story they tell.
the issue with Ross is that with Silkroad market going on, it's making the authorities powerless so they have to take him down. freeing him will also make people think the penalty is nothing.

but sure i will still vote for him to be free since he created something unique than FTX.

We live in a clown world and everything has reversed logic here.
I don't think Ross Ulbricht will ever be released, and I wouldn't be surprised to see SBF released or someone to ''suicide'' him in prison like Epstein.
I certainly don't think Ross Ulbricht deserves multiple lifetime sentences for creating a website, we know corrupt government officials stole BTC in that case, and Ross was framed for many things.
Never trust anything government or msm is telling you about Ross Ulbricht case or with anything else, they always have some hidden motives or they want to give an example to people.
What can I say about big nose SBF, he is a punk junky who openly worked with politicians and government, but I really can't compare this two cases.

It's only fair that criminals get what's coming to them for their actions, but unfortunately, life isn't always fair, and neither is the legal system. Especially when politics are involved.

The Ulbricht case involved a significant amount of political influence and it appears that politics also play a role in the SBF case. However, the difference is that last time the politics worked against the accused, this time it looks like it might be working for him.

They cannot be compared, but its illogical one is in prison and one is free... If Ross payed for killing, then he should be in prison... for the rest I can see something which started with a good idea, with a lot of freedom etc ....
SBF is a scam from the start and we will never know what exactly happened with politicians etc but for sure a lot happened which hurt lots of people

If both still can operate the project in prison, then they must shut down it. Many people and I also think that criminals (like them) have VIP facilitation in jail to operate old jobs. I have to think like that because, In our country, it's not something strange if criminals still can manage drugs in the jails. The criminal can supply millions of ecstasy pills in collaboration with the warder.

Madoff was also released on bail and everyone was saying the same thing, why was he released, politics, he is worse than criminals. Then he got a 150 years prison sentence and died in prison! So why don't we wait first to see how SBF's trial ends and then compare how each was judged and punished (if!).

 

I've read this thread up to this point and haven't seen anything mentioned about the hit he put out on someone.  I've only learned about the case through the few bitcoin documentaries I've watched that he was featured in, so I'm not sure what's true.  But if indeed he was trying to have someone killed, I think he ought to have gotten life with the possibility of parole at the worst.  Silk Road?  Yep, drugs are illegal but I've got my own opinions as to the fairness of the laws dealing with them.

So no, in no case should Ross Ulbricht never have the chance for parole.  That's ridiculous to me, but then again the US justice system is completely fucked from top to bottom, so what do you expect?

As far as SBF goes, he doesn't deserve a sentence that's even close to RU.  I don't know all the facts of the case, but in the end it's money we're talking about, a white collar crime.  There's no way a LWOP sentence should be handed down.

I agree with other member that both belong in prison. But IMO it's more important to ask how long they should be in prison. Some people believe Ross shouldn't receive lifetime imprisonment and they even make website about it at https://freeross.org/ (https://freeross.org/). Meanwhile SBF action also caused at least $3.1 billion loss and some investor suffer major loss or even consider to suicide.

The idea of the hit was suggested to him by an undercover agent who was eventually exposed as corrupt. He wasn't actually charged for this although apparently there was evidence introduced during his trial that supported that it happened and it weighed in the judge's decision to give him life in prison. Nobody was ever actually murdered, he was just scammed by fake hitmen.

I think Ross could definitely do good outside of jail. Let him run a counseling program for wayward youths or give him his own YouTube channel. Something. Hopefully he will eventually be pardoned.

SBF on the other hand deserves to be in jail but for entirely separate reasons. His family is extremely wealthy and apparently a lot of political donations he made are paying off so he may never actually see a day in jail.

Ross doesn't deserve to be in jail. #FreeRoss

This clusterfuck of a businessguy on the other hand, should get minimum 100 years in jail, if not a life sentence.

A befitting sentence for him to emulate Madoff, considering that he screwed over like 1% of the planet at this point.

Its been mentioned in here, also I only saw it on Movie etc....

DPR was a patsy and a victim of entrapment.  SBF bilked billions from average people, walked into court carrying a stuffed backpack, and walks out (without the backpack) and has his trial postponed for 10 months.  There's nothing right about any of this.  The US government is the most corrupt it's ever been.  The CIA being involved in Kennedy's assassination is small potatoes in comparison to the outlandish subterfuge the swamp gets away with these days.  This corruption dates back to the 90's and every president since (with the exception of Trump) is culpable.  And to make matters worse, there's little to no scrutiny, skepticism, or critical thinking from the general public.  Most of us are drinking the Cool Aid.  

Just off the top of my head, here's a brief list of swamp rats attacking their political enemies, shielding their super donors, and other evidence of mass corruption enriching and empowering the swamp:

• Trump's alleged Russian collusion
• Senior FBI officials actually colluding with Russia
• Trump's alleged Ukrainian collusion
• The Military Industrial Complex telling us it's immoral not to collude with Ukraine
• The Climate Industrial Complex enriching China wile they strip mine lithium which contributes to carbon emissions
• China's decimation of the Amazonian rain forest (remember when that was evil?  Now it's not even talked about)
• Gretchen Whitmer's alleged kidnapping attempt which turned out to be an FBI entrapment attempt
• Jan-6 rioters rotting in prison (some without trial) for two years
• Black Lives Matter getting rich off of tragedies that are politically convenient
• Edward Snowden ostracized for exposing the government for spying on it's own citizens
• Julian Assange ostracized for reporting on government corruption and unauthorized military actions
• Bradley Manning honored for getting US solders killed (or "changing" his gender, I don't know)
• Jeffery Epstein beating child-sex trafficking charges
• Jeffery Epstein's "suicide" before he can face child-sex trafficking charges again and expose who-knows-what about we know who
• The Mainstream Media's lies, obfuscation, lies, omissions, lies, distractions, and more lies

If the US Federal government announced that the sky is blue, I would be suspicious that it is anything but blue.

Like I said, there is nothing logical in this clown world, especially if you are watching mainstream brainwashing all the time.
If you tell the truth exposing politician and governments like some people did in past, they could end up in prison, get killed and ridiculed in movies.
If you lie, cheat and steal nothing will happen with you if you have connection with powerful people, you can even end up as a senile puppet president :D
Research origin of SBF and his family, that will help you understand why he and his case is so different from  Ross Ulbricht.

It's circus show with ^(almost) all governments around the world... sad thing is that many people still believe all their bullshit.

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Darknet Market/Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht caused one of the worst incidents in Bitcoin's history early on.  The government seized 70,000 BTC from him at the time, which at the time had a market value of $1 billion.
Ross Ulbricht founded Silk Road in 2011 and the website was shut down by the government after his arrest in 2015 after two years of running Silk Road criminal activities.

Criminals investigation Offensed following Convinced against Ross Ulbricht

• Engaging in a continuing Criminal Enterprise
• Distributing Narcotics
• Distributing Narcotics by means of the internet
• Money laundering
• Conspiring to traffic to False identity
• Conspiring to Commit Computer Hacking

Criminal Punishment
Court sentenced him to two life terms plus 40 years in prison without bail for the above offenses and assessed a fine of $183961921.



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Who doesn't know about FTX founder SAM BANKMAN-FRIED who happened in 2022.  He was arrested and sentenced to 115 years in prison for property fraud and many other crimes.  But he was released on a $250M bond on a special plea deal, with the condition that he spend life under house arrest with his family.

Criminal Offensive by Court

• Wire Fraud
• Commodities Fraud
• Securities Fraud
• Money laundering
• Campaign Finance law Violations

You judge who should have been punished more by looking at the prevailing events and the trend/severity of the crime. One will rot in jail for the rest of his life and the other will spend time with his family.

Ref: Ross Ulbricht Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Ulbricht)
SBF wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Bankman-Fried)
Photo Collected from Google

SBF should undoubtedly be punished for his misdeeds. Whether this will happen or whether he will get off lightly is still a mystery to me. It is known that he has influential parents with the right connections that can help him avoid justice to the fullest.

These two cases are actually very different. The collapse of FTX is not presented in the media as something very bad (well, it happens), while the story of Ross Ulbricht is initially demonized (as if he is guilty of all mortal sins).

It's funny how you use Wikipedia as your main source to gather the information on controversial story. Wikipedia is get manipulated since the information listed on there are based on vote and people who have power. If there's a Wikipedia's user add a real story where it's against the government's decision, he might get targeted by FBI and he will suspect as spreading fake information and conspiracy.

You can read below where Ross Ulbricht is actually not a bad person and don't have any intention to harm any people, it depends on each people who use his free market. Actually anything in this world isn't actually all good and all bad, there's always bad in good and there's always good in bad.

Fiat, Bitcoin or any currency, you can use it for a good thing like charity, donation etc, but you can also use it to pay for murders.

Become a president, you have full control to develop your country to become better, but you can also bribe anyone to corrupt a lot money.

Narcotics, it can kill you if you use it overdose since it's addictive, but it can be used for medical purpose.

Anonymity, privacy is really important to prevent from getting traced and to live peacefully, but the government thing we're criminal who done illegal things.

Ross Ulbricht isn't deserve to get jailed, but the people who take advantage over the free market is the one who should get jailed!

On ebay and amazon they sell things that was not supposed to be sold. Scammers are scamming left and right but that does not make ebay and amazon owners a criminal. Paypal, freeze money from it's client left and right, but it does not make them criminal.

You play in favour of their system, give them their cut, you are always right. The system is designed for them to get the benefit, not for us. We are a product for them, the numbers that pay them for everything they need.

Ross Ulbricht I don't know this gentleman, maybe a look into history will reveal many criminal activities of this gentleman but I won't go into that.  My pride is SBF with this gentleman. For this gentleman I fell into FTX Token Scam in November 2022 worth $1500. And what I earn as a small trader just for SBF all my earnings are wasted. I always wish SBF to be punished and he should be given severe punishment. But in reality his punishment has been reduced a lot. Let him be re-imprisoned and given severe punishment.

Since the option of "none of them" has been added in the poll, I think one more option should have been added - "both of them".
Although I don't know much about Ross Ulbricht, after looking at various sources, if the Silk Road incident is true, I think he and the current SBF should be sentenced to life imprisonment.
Moreover, I would like to mention one more person name with these two people who is the founder of Terra-Luna Kwon Do-hyung, although after the arrest of SBF Kwon Do-hyung has been issued an Interpol red notice and he is currently living in Serbia. If the Lunar incident is dismissed simply because of his responsibility, then I think it would be wrong And I think he should be also punished. Due to this irresponsibility of him, many people took to the streets and many have committed suicide.
https://i.postimg.cc/sXBJfNjY/screenshot-86.pngnews source (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-harder-arrest-terra-luna-100144472.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANx-k9x6axAIHDUVaLfJAXkThbpNAZLqGqv8U-4Rl2tRBNaUn_yMfR9ut1y0PNts3CQOrCZ8TlmCROAErQud3px6NPgdqZIMjyPEx_qDTikMAK5RNamS_UgB8XluhcbaN-Q8hHhVCWZJZ3sVpn5GYAMCXUo1LLxA5iehQMRZJjDY#:~:text=But%20while%20FTX%20founder%20Sam,Seoul%20charging%20him%20with%20fraud.)

Based on this article, it looks like Do Kwon doesn't commit a crime in US jurisdiction and even more he's not live in US. But since there's no movement and decision from South Korean authorities, my take on this Do Kwon have bribed the authorities in order to not get jailed. As we know in other countries the authorities isn't strict as US and it's more easier to bribe.

If we talking about shitcoins CEO should get jailed since they're scam many investors, there are a lot CEO will get jailed. But those shitcoins are just small and not affect a lot people, so it's not hyped.

The extent of their crime is what should ordinarily determine how long they should belong in prison. Reading about the silk road online wrongly makes one think Ross committed crimes that are worse than what our modern day politicians do, but there are other parts to the story that i believe are true, and i feel Ross' case was inflated, he surely doesn't deserve a life sentence; there are many politicians today all over the world that are involved in crimes worse than his, but because they pay the right people and gag the right mouths, they are never going to see the walls of a prison.

Ross deserves jail time, but not life imprisonment without parole, sbf and Kwon as well deserve jail time because they are assholes, if you screw people up because you don't know what the hell you're doing, then you deserve jail time, but there is no balance in the judiciary because one person gets a slap on the wrist sanction and another gets a stronger sentence for similar offences, if there is balance in the judicial system i don't think anyone would be complaining.

Two men committed a very heinous crime here. Here both should suffer equal punishment. But here SBF is given less punishment. They should be punished in such a way that no one dares to commit such heinous crimes later after seeing their punishment. The justice system of the country has now gone to a stage where criminals do not get full punishment for committing crimes. Criminals do not fear to commit crimes due to such irregularities in the judicial system. So I think SBF should be re-arrested and severely punished. Seeing that people appreciate the justice system.

SBF is a talented person. Who was so talented that he answered all their questions in a video chat with the SEQUOIA company while playing video games. And SEQUOIA agreed to invest $210 million in his company. SBF was so talented that even a company like SEQUOIA Capital didn't have the guts to ask as investor why he was playing video games on a important meeting.  and When Elon Musk wanted to buy Twitter, SBF tweeted that it was willing to pay Musk $2-3 billion if he invested in FTX.  And FTX was the fastest growing exchange.
But unfortunately FTX became Bancroft overnight. Because when Binance CEO CZ_Binance tweeted that they will sell all FTT tokens they hold, investors panicked and started selling too. and  SBF company FTX was stored most of their funds through FTT tokens so meanwhile FTT crashed and FTX company eventually went bankrupt.
Here I think SBF is not entirely to blame.Although many people lost because FTX went bankrupt and I also invested $9620 usd in FTT and I lost that money. So he should be punished accordingly and he should be careful before doing anything after that and not to harm the public

Its seems fair for criminal cases ending actually for SBF what have did with FTX exchange market, but I see have potential for both SBF-Ross Ulbricht can operate his project during still in the jail trough trusted person. Weakness punishment without make him become poor not problem where ever your are and money in your hand possibility control for anything.

SBF-Ross Ulbricht will not get huge pressure in the jail like drug or criminal cases and they have power for operating their project later due with their assets still not freeze yet.

He is not going to be re-arrested unless he breaks any of the bail terms, such as fleeing his parents house where he is under house arrest, if he doesn't do anything like that, then we have to wait until october, 2nd when the trial would start, to see the outcome. If you do not know, judgement hasn't been passed yet on sbf's case, but there's speculations he may get a slap on the wrist kind of sentence, after all he threw a lot of money to politicians :D :D.
CZ wasn't the cause of ftx's collapse, he may have triggered it; but the company collapsed because of sbf's misappropriation of customers' funds, so he is to blame in my humble opinion.

Talented to such a level that he failed to keep his company alive, and at the same time he managed to destroy the lives of countless people, some of whom probably committed suicide. People like Bankman are a danger to society and should be banned from any business involving finance and investment.

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As far as punishment goes, I think both men deserve long prison sentences, although I'm pretty sure Bankman won't be treated nearly as harshly as Ross Ulbricht, and I think that is also logical considering the accusations against them. What may raise doubts about a fair trial in the case of FTX is the fact that this company financed various politicians and political organizations, and had business ties with many influential US companies, and it remains to be seen whether this will affect the verdict.

I agree with you when Luna started scamming the market it wiped out thousands of people's wealth.  At that time I was a small trading trader and I also had some Luna Invests.  If punishment Know Do-hyung I think it should be..
Ross Ulbricht On my behalf I find him guilty.  But his punishment was comparatively less because he should have been hanged.  Because thousands of people have lost their wealth on the streets.  He should be punished in such a way that he doesn't get a chance to make the mistake a second time.  

Ross Ulbricht
Hanging!  Hanging!!  Hanging!!!

https://i.imgur.com/gmCfqYn.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FprkiNz.jpg
Ross Ulbricht was the director of a darknet marketplace. Where criminal activities including drug and arms sales took place. Users of that site pay using cryptocurrency whose identity remains anonymous. Finally he was accused of various criminal activities including money laundering, hacking. He was convicted of various misdemeanors and imprisoned.

There is no need to say anything new about this gentleman named Sam Bankman-Fried, another biggest criminal at the present time. What he did, didn't just hurt anyone personally, he caused a temporary big loss to the cryptocurrency world. He should be punished in such a way that it can be marked as an example to others. This person killed my long saved money and trust. I just wish like all others exemplary punishment. I know i will never get that money back but it will give me great satisfaction if his punishment is confirmed.

That doesn't make any sense. Execution is reserved for cases of murder. It is not applied to drug dealers, hackers, etc. And also, Ross didn't scam anyone (unlike the tin foil hat on the right). The FBI seized the bitcoins of Silk Road. So why are you claiming the customers were robbed by him?

I believe that SBF and Ross Ulbricht ought to receive the same life sentences. It is annoying that SBF was placed only under house arrest due to the connections he and his family established to many high ranking officials and the Democrats. Users suffered a loss of 8 billion dollars as a result of the FTX collapse. The sum is significantly greater than the money involved in the case of Ross Ulbricht. Regardless, the claim that Ross Ulbricht is innocent is not something I believe. He was aware that millions of dangerous illegal trades were taking place on the Silk Road, but he did nothing about it.

Can't you read?

Ross already has a life sentence, since like 10 years ago.

https://i.imgur.com/xalzHPg.jpg

Ross Ulbricht ,This man is currently serving life imprisonment for his involvement in the Silk Road scam.  The government sentenced him to life imprisonment without parole.
He imprisoned his two life times + 40 more years.

https://i.imgur.com/TUPjtla.jpg

SBF was sentenced to 115 years in prison for his crimes, but his father will spend time in family custody with a $250M bond.

https://i.imgur.com/gTAYvt9.jpg

Ruja Ignatova scammed her own project "OneCoin" in 2016 and disappeared with the equivalent of $4 billion at the time. The FBI has announced a top ten hot list for her and this beautiful lady has so far been hiding from the eyes of the law.

What kind of punishment do you wish for her?

I am aware of the Ulbricht verdict years ago. The poll asks which between SBF and Ulbricht deserved the longer prison sentence. And I just answered that both SBF and Ulbricht ought to receive the same life sentences.

I've read books about Ross Ulbricht's life before and during the Silk Road, his story breaks my heart... it's so unfair for him to be sentenced to life in prison for what he did.

Yes bond to parents home only worth $25m and so house arrest also $250m short bond to put in let's see what other games they will play and give it to him.
I think a lot of political money and celebrity money that was given by him not to give he a lot of hope I'm wrong and he was locked up for 115 years and it didn't turn into a circus.

Little busy these days, gonna read up soon-ish, thx for the input already

When Ulbricht launched Silk Road, he probably didn't have any bad intentions, so we should consider that when judging him.
But yes, Ulbrichts actions resulted in a lot of damage.
The early days of when Bitcoin was launched, many criminals abused it and unfortunately a lot of them gathered on Silk Road for criminal business.
The dust settled now, the criminal use of Bitcoin is decreasing and maybe one day, Ulbricht will be released from jail. I would not rule it out.  :)

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Good point, I would also like to see such an option, since it would change the outcome probably. And you can't vote for both in OP's poll.

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Sad to hear, mate! I hope it isn't all of your money and you had most of your money in a private wallet.
Always make sure, that you don't store your valuable coins on exchanges.
It's even more risky than trading!

https://i.imgur.com/naSBLqv.png

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That's a slogan often used mostly by fascists who don't have any arguments left, so these fascists claim it's all "brainwashing by msm". In reality the world is much more complex that in the heads of these extremists.
In general, the concept of "msM bAd" is antithetical to what an educated person would do: hear all the arguments, evaluate the arguments and look at the education of the people voicing the arguments. For example, a gardener is probably a bad source for planetary science and so on.  :D :D

The funny thing: the conspiracy nut crowd has started producing a massive amount of lies over the last 5 years (probably more than over the last 25 years combined), and that will become a big problem for the conspiracy theorists as more and more of it is proven as a lie. Nobody willtake them serios anymore at some point.

https://i.imgur.com/30erCP6.jpg

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As far as I know, Ulbricht admitted that SilkRoad has been a mistake.
I also expect he was not fully aware, that Silk Road would get abused like that.
And personally, I would always re-evaluate an imprisonment if that person had admitted their mistake and if the person still is a danger for society.
I don't know if that's a valid argument since I’m not a lawyer but when releasing someone from prison, we should also consider: how likely is it, that the person who's currently in jail will do crimes again, when he's released?
Is it more beneficial for society to keep him in prison or is it more beneficial to release him?
And for Ulbricht, I believe, it wouldn’t hurt to release him.  :)

The criminal that Ross Ulbricht did was definitely a very dangerous and dangerous website for the whole world. He operated 'Silk Road' known as The Onion Router or Tor network. And more than $200 million in illegal drugs and other illegal products and drugs were bought and sold on that site, which earned him a life sentence in prison. I think he has been given enough punishment for committing this crime and a life sentence is well deserved.

 SBF is the infamous collapse of cryptocurrency exchanges and has ruined the money of billions of investors around the world. Many investors invested in FTX with loans from banks. And when they heard the news of FTX bankruptcy, many investors chose to commit suicide after hearing such news. and eventually he was arrested with criminal charges filed against him by the United States government. And he was convicted on eight counts of fraud and sentenced to 115 years in prison.  But a special plea deal allowed him to live under house arrest with his family.
 But I think SBF should have been jailed for such a punishable crime because he has looted the dreams of crores of people.
Sam Bankman Fried's sentence was much less than that of Ross Ulbricht. Sam Bankman Fried's sentence should have been more severe.

Didn't they read the disclaimer such as...
"Don't invest that you can not afford to lose"

There should be such long disclaimers and there were but the greedy people never care to read or listen. When they see easy money they go all in.

Those who lost are responsible for their own loss. They should be guilty as mush as SBF. Sorry I am not advocating for him but these people can not deny their part of wrong doing too.

If investors losing funds is the only reason for his guilt then all the ICOs that are gone are criminal. In the stock market when share price is down and people loss everything then where is your judgement call? Even when any coin drops 90% value then we should be putting the project management to jail following the logic of investors loss.

Yes such an incident happened with Luna and that time also many people committed suicide this news is available. And after FTX Bankruptcy, it is natural that there will be many suicides case  because it was the largest exchange after Binance and millions of users deposited and traded here. Meanwhile I also believe and feel that SBF has no right to play with someone's life so he should be punished accordingly.

Long term imprisonment may not be a suitable punishment for them they should be granted long remand as this sentence may bring them out of their dirty thoughts. But it is also true that since he had connections with various influential people and also with politicians, it is doubtful that they would be sanctioned potential  punishment.

Although his establishment led to many criminal activities yet I think Ross Ulbricht's punishment is too harsh. His offense is a common one in our cities, the only difference was that he wanted to promote the privacy of his clients. He had no intention to scam or steal people's money like SBF he just facilitated illegal trade and made huge gains from it. Although the claim that he arranged for the assassination of some people who threatened to expose his enterprise and his refusal to accept a plea deal contributed to the harsh sentence. He would have gotten at most ten years sentence if all these factors were not against him.

Drugs indeed harm the populace but SBF should receive a higher sentence because he intentionally deceived and scammed people. Some persons have committed suicide, while others are going through financial and health challenges because of the loss of funds in FTX.

Ross Ulbricht and Sam Bankman-Fried are Americans and not from China, Thailand, Malaysia, or Saudi Arabia where corruption or drug dealings attracts capital punishment.

The suicide news about luna is fake and there's no evidence show that this incident is real so maybe someone fake this story to spread more fuds towards the incident happened to that coin.

You can read this article about this situation here https://www.thereportertimes.com/technology/fake-suicide-news-went-viral-after-terra-luna-coin-crash/

But its really good to get updates about the case so that people will now about the current status of SBF since many want to see him rot in jail.

By all accounts, it appears that SBF is a very talented person, but that does not mean that he is able to break the law with impunity. Based on information available and accusations that I deem reasonable, it appears that SBF made some decisions that lead to FTX losing billions of dollars of customer money, and in the process, I understand that SBF broke laws.

RU/DPR also made decisions that led to SR1 customers losing money. Although the FBI seized all of SR1's coin, at the time, SR1 was shut down, I understand it was insolvent. This is in addition to the murder-for-hire issues that others have mentioned that RU/DPR allegedly was involved in (some of this may have been entrapment, however, I am not bound by the constitution when it comes to forming my personal opinion). RU/DPR was involved in drug trafficking, which ultimately leads to many people suffering, and dying.

I think both deserve serious jail time. SBF is politically connected, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him either get a sweetheart deal or the case thrown by the DOJ. I don't think it was an accident that SBF was spending so much on Democrats.

For Bible believers, All sin are equal in the sight of God. And in our normal society no one is above the law, So if someone has committed an offense that is punishable by law, be it killing, armed robbery, cyber crimes or Fraudulent practices and in one way or the other be a sponsor to such things, Then if found guilty the offender should go face the law and if it involves going to the prison or jail, the person should be there to learn some lessons. The bottom line is wether SBF, Ross Ulbricht no one is above the law and both should go to prison if found guilty of their acts.

It could be fake news but at the time these events seemed to be true.  Because millions of investors have lost more than billions of dollars due to the Luna crash. So incidents like suicide were common then and I saw many tweets like that but I don't know how true this was. However, due to FTX bankruptcy, investors have suffered several times more losses than luna. So in this case incidents like suicide can happen.

No one has the right to break any law not just SBF.  And if he breaks the law, he must be punished, otherwise he will continue to do such acts repeatedly.  And thus he will not hesitate to commit crimes

But in reality I don't believe he'd have any trouble at all. He was paying too many people in high places and his well-connected parents would be pulling every rope they had to keep SBF in Federal Camp with a simple sentence in exchange for silence where all the money went.

I also hope that both of them are not above the law, both of them must receive punishment for every deed they have done. All crimes in the eyes of the judge are the same, don't be sharp towards people below, but blunt towards people who have money.

Law is always hard for weak people, and easy for rich people. If the law worked at the speed of the law, there would never have been any criminal abomination in the society or the country. Here Ross Ulbricht was arrested for creating the darknet market website Silk Road. Through this website he provides services for drug services and other illegal immoral activities. He was sentenced to two life terms and an additional 40 years for the crime. I think the court has given him an appropriate sentence.

But the SBF committed a more heinous crime. Investors all over the world lost their money when he bankrupted his FTX.  It has shaken the confidence of investors around the world and completely destroyed the cryptocurrency market. The court sentenced him to 115 years in prison for his criminal act, but on a special plea, the court advised him to stay at home with his family. I never consider this to be an appropriate punishment because a heinous criminal like him should be jailed with a harsher sentence. Seeing his punishment makes people hesitate to commit such heinous crimes.

Seemed to be true because crazy things happened to LUNA at that time and it was fast balance draining event so many really believed that incident happened because the article seems convincing but investigation has been but none of it has proven legitimate. What happen to both Luna and FTX is really an unfortunate historical upset to many crypto investor because many people lose their money due to this incident.

It is very sad to give SBF freedom from law.  Everyone is equal in the eyes of the criminal law, if punishment is to be imposed then the owner of FTX should be punished more.  Because millions of people have been on the verge of suicide since the FTX bankruptcy.  Because people had invested crores of rupees of wealth here, which got completely wasted.  Just as Luna falls from the market to the fault as the mountain is actually destroyed.
Finally I want to say that the owner of FTX should be punished again.  Because one will be in and the other out, it can never happen.

That's sad reality if you have money because temporarily you can escape those cases filed to you. But don't expect anything good for his self because the case still rolling and for sure the court will find him guilty towards the crimes he does.

Hopefully the same with Luna together with FTX many will learn valuable lesson about not trusting any big guys in industry because anything could happen and they could scam anyone once they already got so huge money in their hands.

Laws are equal for all in developed worlds. But in some poor countries law loses to money because there are various shortages in that country and everyone wants to live in comfort due to which the lawmen also start taking bribes because there salary also too less. However, the SBF phenomenon has caused a huge loss to people all over the world, which is not limited to any particular country, because of which even if it has considerable financial resources, it will not be able to escape the law very easily. And I think he will get his due punishment now it's to be seen how much SBF can protect itself by dealing with political persons

Although everyone is equal in the eyes of the law, sometimes it is very difficult to handle certain issues. This is a global issue as FTX was not restricted to any particular country so before making a decision for it the courts will take everything into account and if necessary several countries will collectively decide what constitutes an appropriate punishment for him. So maybe SBF has been kept free until the final decision of the court

I myself lost a lot of money with Luna at that time.  And I suffered a lot for it myself.  But I didn't use FTX that much because I like Binance.  Due to which I did not lose much as FTX went bankrupt.  But I lost a huge amount of money in LUNA and I understand how hard it is to lose money  So SBF must be severely punished so that no one else dares to do such a blockade after seeing his punishment. And the court should award the amount to the affected people in the form of percentage based on the current assets of the SBF.

Ross Ulbricht and SBF both committed heinous crimes on two fronts. Ross Ulbricht bought and sold more than $200 million worth of banned drugs and banned products on his website, which is a threat to the entire world. So his crime has been made very difficult. And the court sentenced him to life imprisonment. And he continues to suffer this punishment. SBF is one of Cryptocurrency's notorious downfalls. As a result of this decline, many people who invested in FTX chose to commit suicide because they invested in FTX with loans everywhere and from banks.  However, a United States court convicted him in a criminal case and sentenced him to 115 years in prison after eight charges were proven against him. But he is currently under house arrest through a special application. Law is equal for all but here it is proved that law is not equal for all. It is really disappointing that one person is rotting in jail for committing a crime and the other is under house arrest for committing such a big crime. If the judicial system is done like this then the common people will lose faith in the judicial system.

Ross Ulbricht and SBF He is a criminal to the law and to the public.  The law will consider the merits of the fault.  But here the law is corrupt because the owner of FTX is at the top of the crime list.  Due to his crime, thousands of people had to commit suicide.  Billions of rupees were invested in the FTX platform.  For my own part I consider that he should be punished the most.  Of the two, Ross Ulbricht should be fined, but the owner of FTX should be put on the gallows, not under house arrest.



Strongly condemn the people of the United States of America.  It should not be because FTX has taken bribes from the owner and put him under house arrest.  He should be brought back and put on the gallows again.

I didn't know anything about it at first, but after reading everyone's comments, I actually got to know what the real story is. I think there are two persons equally guilty one is for buying and selling various illegal drugs and various products on his website for which the court found him guilty and sentenced him to life imprisonment. Another FTX exchange embezzled all the wealth and here too the court found him guilty and sentenced him to 115 years in prison. But later, when his family filed a petition regarding the matter, the court ordered him to remain under house arrest. I think the law has made two judgments for two people here. Because one person is in jail for committing a crime but the other is under house arrest for committing such a big crime, it seems a little different to me. Many may have committed suicide after scamming this exchange. Because many people may have left all their accumulated wealth here. So I think the court has given two kinds of judgment to both of them here.

SBF is still waiting for trial and while doing so he was released on bond which is a standard practice for a white collar crime. On the other hand, Ross Ulbricht was (among other things) charged with conspiracy to commit murder (most likely a bullshit charge) so he wasn't given that option.

According to everything I have read and learned about Ross Ulbricht and SBF, they both merit a prison sentence for the crimes they have committed. Because both SBF and Ross Ulbricht committed significant crimes, in my opinion there is no distinction between their crimes and how some persons might have been affected by them. However, as for me is a work of judiciary to decide who will serve the highest punishment.

However, the FTX incident really hurts me because I was using the exchange at the time and suffered some losses as a result, which even sent me to the hospital.even if I don't see any new evidence to support it, I can also say that the occurrence might have caused some life damage.

Sorry man for the losses enquired from this incident for me am just happy that justice actually got to these folks its doesn't really matter which one of them did the most grevious sin all we are concerned about is that people like these men should always be put behind bars if not the damages they will further cause to the society at large will be far greater. Am just happy that the judicial system is not asleep on such issues anymore because there was a period of time when cases like this were not properly handle and the people involved in such were just overlooked or maybe they possibly involved corruption by paying for their freedom @luna crash

Don't worry, everyone who embezzles money will face many lawsuits. They will never have a normal life again. Despite what a joke mom and dad did to make up for it, they connected so well. Hope SBF spends some time in jail, it would be crazy not to go to jail.

The US justice system is a joke. this man should be behind bars. I don't understand the legal angle here, maybe he was acquitted and will be tried later, but still wrong. what a joke.

What's not to understand: since he was charged for financial crimes only and had no previous charges, he was released on a $250 million bond and will wait for trial at his parent's house. And no, he was not acquitted as that would mean he had a trial and that he was declared not guilty which is obviously not case here as his trial starts on October 2nd. Of course it would be nice if he spent the time until trial in jail, but that was never a realistic scenario based on other high profile scammers cases.

I don't know where are you from, but if he was from my country he certainly wouldn't sit in jail while waiting for trial, and most likely not in the majority of other countries either. Hell, if he was from my country and if he donated so much money to ruling parties, I would be 100% sure that he will be acquitted in the end.

The criminal people don't have in their mind about what happen later for their children, mom, dad and every lovely in their live because have blind with how much money scam. I think what did by SBF most criminal cases and how many people loss their money and I don't know about their condition right now. I think many FTX user have much assets there faced frustrated and how long SBF in the jail still not make the user happy and back to normal life after with how much money loss.

I think SBF should get more than jail and want to see him in the dark jail without any good facilities accepted, make him frustrated and want to make his life end as soon possible.

My belief is that shortcuts to wealth and power corrupt the soul. Each shortcut you take will only strengthen the next shortcut. It starts small. A few little things. you get away with it. Then the next shortcut is a little more adventurous. Then comes the shortcut which has moral implications i.e., you actually hurt someone.

This SBF should be in prison for life for destroying the lives of not the super rich because they are fine, but the lives of innocent people who have invested their life savings in Sam Bankman-Fired FTX.

Everyone is equal before the law but some people can be specially treated by the law. The law is unbendable but the humans that interpret and enforce the law can be manipulated. Don't forget tht SBF donated both to the Republicans and Democrats and his parents are highly connected. All these facts can influence the judgement which might lead to a short sentence or long sentence with paroles. Ross Ulbricht was just a commoner that wanted to promote privacy but he did that for the underworld making his business immoral. He is not also politically connected and this led to a very harsh punishment.

Ross Ulbricht bought and sold banned drugs and banned products on his website. Yes it is a matter of many threats to human life.  Maybe if some of his prohibited products were used by people, there would be a danger of human life. But on the other hand SBF has destroyed the entire Crypto market. Many investors around the world invested huge amounts of money in his exchange but he intentionally bankrupted his exchange. As a result there are many investors who lost them everywhere. And many committed suicide not being able to accept these things. Therefore, the court found SBF's crime greater than that of Ross Ulbricht and sentenced him to a higher sentence. While Ross Ulbricht was sentenced to life in prison, the court sentenced him to 115 years in prison, exacerbating SBF's crimes. So far everything was fine but if the court had not given him permission to remain under house arrest then people would not have raised a finger against the court. Many people have commented that the law is different for the rich and the poor.  Here the court has completely lost to money. Since SBF has committed a far greater crime, the court should have made him serve the sentence he was awarded. But the court allowed him to remain under house arrest in exchange of money which really surprised everyone.

I think that Ross Ulbricht operated a site that kept doing illegal things like arms and drugs could be traded there and some people say even more tragic things were happening so based on this perspective I think he deserves to be in prison but I don't know if he should be spending his life in prison,20 years is enough for any crime for any person to have a chance to turn to be a better one and start doing good things with their life.

As for SBF he cheated a huge amount of people and he made money himself by cheating these people no matter what he tries to make him self not guilty,I think that he too deserves to stay in prison for a long time until he reflects as if they let him free I am pretty sure he will come up with another scam scheme to cheat people again,once a cheater always a cheater as they say.

Ross Ulbricht has served his punishment for the crime he committed in prison.  Although he stands in the criminal dock but because of his crime people have not jumped towards suicide but have suffered.  Ross Ulbricht is serving a 20-year prison sentence.  I think a sentence of 20 years is appropriate for him.

SBF he has cheated people so people were on the verge of suicide.  And people came to the streets losing wealth worth crores of rupees, this crime is very big.  According to his crime he deserves health but the law is criminal because he is under house arrest in his own residence by taking bribe as fine.
But, Now I think FTX owner SBF has not been punished according to his crime.  And I myself invested in FTX and I suffered total losses and I was in the hospital at death's door.  And sbf I demand punishment again and again on my behalf for what he has cheated the people.  As if the law would punish him by taking him to prison again.

There is more to Ross Ulbricht's life than we know. Ross Ulbricht created a website called Silk Road in February 2011 primarily so that people could buy and sell products using his website. He created the website Silk Road for the purpose that people can choose the right product according to their choice and freedom using this website.  He created the website with great intentions but later the Silk Road website spread worldwide and many buyers and sellers were attracted to this website. Here various products are widely used for buying, selling, searching and within few days the worldwide Silk Road website turns into a huge marketplace. But no one can believe that this huge website is running illegal services, goods, activities, smuggling, prohibited transactions etc. under the cover of buying many products. In the wake of these anti-social activities, the FBI launched an investigation and was arrested on October 1, 2013. Based on the so-called various complaints and complaints, he was sentenced to two life terms and 40 years of imprisonment without physical labour.
However, in April 2022, President Joe Biden pardoned 78 convicted criminals who had been involved in various criminal activities, including murder, extortion, money laundering, and various anti-social activities. But 38-year-old Ross Ulbricht, who is involved in less criminal activities than them, is serving time in prison. His case has been recommended for re-investigation at various times from various quarters but his case has not been brought under any prosecution from any political quarters.

However, despite committing more crimes than that, the sentence was waived due to the recommendation of political leaders. The SBF involved in the most recent FTX scam was arrested for stealing and laundering $10b from innocent people, but is currently under house arrest due to recommendations from various political circles and a $250M bond, if SBF's crime in this case is Much more serious than Ulbricht.


Ross Ulbricht is currently known as a model inmate in prison and he teaches inmates about education, awareness and various topics. In addition, his family at various times in the name of Ross Ulbricht formed various funds and supported various organizations. In addition, he established a charity fund called Art4Giving to support incarcerated families and has distributed more than $500,000 to various organizations and incarcerated families.

Ross Ulbricht's crimes may be trivialized in the first place, but his crimes are very serious. If the illegal drugs that he bought and sold had spread throughout the world, it would have posed a great threat to human life. Earlier, the court convicted him and sentenced him to life imprisonment.  I think it is a fitting punishment for him. On the other hand SBF bankrupted an exchange where people had invested huge amounts of money. Many have lost confidence in crypto currencies due to scams. People don't trust exchanges anymore. But he was also found guilty by the court and sentenced in a conflict. The court convicted him and sentenced him to 115 years in prison. But his family made a special plea through money and got permission to keep him under house arrest. Even after committing such a big crime, since the court gave him so much relief, many people will not be afraid to do such scams later. As a result of which the money deposited by the common people will be destroyed, so I would say that the court should reconsider this matter and give a verdict.

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Silk Road was the most sophisticated and extensive criminal marketplace on the Internet. This site enables hundreds of thousands of drug dealers, including smugglers, to move hundreds of kilograms of illegal drugs. As far as I know, the site's sales total $1.2 billion. He was able to quickly grow his money through illegal transactions. He tries to attack people by threatening to reveal information. All in all he is a big criminal. Sam Bankman-Fried is another serious offender in recent times."The collapse of FTX was a crime, not an accident," many might think of as an accident, but it was definitely a fraud, making Bankman-Fried look like a serial liar," SFB argued in various ways. FTX rival Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong tweeted, implying that even the most naive person shouldn't believe Sam's claim that it was happen by an error.

Ross Ulbricht created an online platform called Silk Road Reloaded and Dark Web. He used to buy and sell various illegal money transactions and drugs etc. from there. When this secret source was later leaked, Ross Ulbricht was indicted and subsequently arrested. And the US government sentenced him to life in prison for his crime. I think that is punishment enough for him.
The past year has seen another major criminal named Sam Bankman-Fried, the CEO of FTX. Who broke the dreams of many investors at the end of 2022 by deceiving his cryptocurrency exchange. He almost brought the cryptocurrency market to ruin when he announced the bankruptcy of FTX. And later when he was arrested for this crime. And the United States government took him to court and sentenced him to 115 years in prison. But her father, Joseph Bankman, was later released on $250 million bail in a plea deal and lives with his family under house arrest. I think this sentence was not enough for him but it was better to give him life imprisonment.

Sometimes influence cannot be used if the case is so strong and many people following the updates towards the criminal who do the crime to many people. And in case of SBF I don't think those powerful man willing to attach their name to them because it can ruin their polical career so most provably only SBF is the one who's helping self and for sure once the case will be tackled again by the authority this man will be totally sent to jail.

Its just those people who get affected will continue to seek for justice so that this man cannot escape for the frauds he done to many people around the world.

i think that's the same faith he would enquired if he was actually from my place too,  well corruption has eaten the structure of every government especially the judiciary which are supposed to be handling such cases with care and preciseness but only to be having some adjustments to some ("special cases") thats how i would put it. He  currently awaiting trial so he is supposed to be in some kind of restricted place for the government to be watching his movement but not in prison yet because he needs to be trialed on Court to plead if he is guilty or not,  for me I don't think this is even necessary because seeing that he is very influential and with the backings of a rich mom and dad, i feel maybe he penalties for the massive fraud crimes will be very little compared to what he is supposed to be served. But my take on this issue is he should be serve according to the law after his trial and the law should not adjusted because of his influence on the Society, this man has so much life with this scandal of his so its only his own life too gets destroyed.

Ross Ulbricht He committed the crime bye he was punished.  I respect the law in that he was sentenced to 20 years in prison for his crime.  But the two culprits here are Ross Ulbricht and Sam Bankman Fried (SBF).  Ross Ulbricht is serving a prison sentence of 20 years by law for his actions, but he is serving time under house arrest for committing more crimes than the SBF.

Crime1: Sam Bankman Fried (SBF) FTX has more than 1 million customers owing SBF due to its bankruptcy.  Out of 1 million people, thousands of people were on the verge of suicide.

Crime2: Sam Bankman Fried (SBF) is living under house arrest after he bribed US legal officials with $250 million to free him from the law.

Finally, Between the two persons we have committed two crimes to the SBF, I for my part let him be hanged.  Because later on, he should not have the opportunity to commit any crime.

Hanging! Hanging!! Hanging!!!

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I searched the website with two people to write something. From the results I got, I made a meme with a signal and posted it for you. All I know about Ross Ulbricht is an e-commerce based website he created in early 2011 called Silk Road, he was indicted and arrested in mid-2013 for this website. He was later convicted in 2015 and is currently serving life in prison. Around that time, he was sentenced for embezzlement of assets amounting to one billion dollars.

But SBF who is currently the most talked about in the crypto world for his own website FTX.com. In November 2022, his company was declared completely bankrupt and various allegations were made against him and the allegations were proved to be true. He embezzled and laundered as much as $10 billion in public assets by bankrupting his own exchange FTX. But now, even though the allegations against him are proven, he is sentenced to 115 years in prison, but SBF is now living in family detention with his parents under special conditions. Although in this case his father gave the government a $250M bond.

I would like to say one thing to you that a person who has caused a financial loss of a billion dollars is currently in jail while a person who has caused a financial loss of ten billion dollars is currently out of jail.

Both are criminals and both should be punished. Ross Ulbricht is already serving his sentence. I have no qualms against him anymore. The real problem at the moment is Sam Bankman Fried. He is still not in prison because the US justice system is not as competent as it seems. He has bribed them and living a luxurious life under the pretense of house arrest. This is the same guy who made millions by using his ponzi token and caused so much pain as well as panic in the mind of investors. Many are still struggling to survive but this guy is enjoying his life in his house. He needs to go to jail!

Both criminals should be punish, but when we look into the perspective one crime might be greater than the other in my own view cause of the amount life destroyed financially, emotional and mentally. But all the same I still maintain the stand that no criminal should be left unpunished. The one at home @sam bankman fried should receive the highest punishment because he case is has left millions if not billions crippled financially due to this ftx scandal. But just like you said corruption of the justice system in the USA won't allow justice to prevail. Although he is still up for trials so can't be prison yet but let's see after the trial on October  what punishment would be given to him.

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A criminal may commit a greater crime when he is acquitted or released from the prescribed punishment. The better the judicial system of any country, the less crime can be found. Ross Ulbricht is serving the punishment for his crimes which is a good thing. But Sam Bankman Fried is still living a life of luxury in his home, which is not a punishment. Therefore, he should be convicted and sentenced to speedy execution under the law. America today is claimed to be the role model of the whole world, but there is also a lot of corruption and terrorist activities. Sam Bankman Fried and Do Kwon are among the few individuals who have committed heinous crimes in cryptocurrency world. As a crypto-investor, I expect a terrible punishment for both of them.

Of course I think the black web site that Ross Ulbricht had was extremely vile and criminal. Various types of criminal illegal goods and narcotic drugs and various black money transactions have been conducted from the Silk Road web site. Ross Ulbricht was later found guilty and arrested when an investigation into Silk Road operations began. And he was sentenced to life in prison by the United States government court. I think this is the maximum sentence for him.

In late 2022, cryptocurrency faced yet another major criminal that nearly brought the crypto market to ruin. Many investors suffered huge losses and later he was convicted and arrested.  Then he was sentenced to 115 years by the court. But his father made bail in a plea deal of $250 million and allowed him to live under house arrest with his family. I think the court did not correct this decision rather SBF should have given him a tougher sentence.

This should be the case but we know how slow the justice system there that's why this two guys still can live an easy life outside even if they have to many cases due to what criminal actions they do. But since they create a huge crime possibly this will prosper since many eyes are following this case and provably the authority handling this case is been watch on how they handle this case since many people are watching on how they can get a justice on what SBF and Ulbricht done to them.

This two criminals is important to fell down in jail because it will give justice and satisfaction to their victims.

Ulbricht is already serving a life jail term in in the US, while SBF is still going through legal proceedings until he is found guilty. But Ulbricht didn't scam anybody he just created an illegal platform that people voluntarily join. But SBF used different advertisement strategy which includes expensive endorsement and promotion deals with different celebrities with the intention of attracting people and using their funds for personal use. Both of them acted against the law but I think SBF deserves harsher punishment.

Just to be precise these are the quoted crimes that he committed for which he is serving a jail term. Link (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Ulbricht).

He is not a saint! He got convicted in 2015 but he destroyed many lives from 2011 till his conviction. He did make millions, he enjoyed his life to the fullest, none of us can imagine that kind of lifestyle. Those days were a golden period for anyone who knew how the Internet worked and he utilized his criminal mind to its utmost potential. Please stop pretending he is innocent.

SBF took fraud to the next level. He basically utilized the potential of social media and the upcoming innovative idea of blockchain. He destroyed many household's earnings and he is still living a lavish life. He knows how to manipulate as well as utilize the US system. He is doing it with ease as he is living a lavish life under house arrest.

I feel like celebrities need to start taking responsibility for what they support. Shaq recently filmed a lot of commercials for sports betting companies here in Australia and Mark Wahlberg did the same not too long ago.

These celebrities will disgrace their name and reputation for money without considering the morality of the platform they are pushing. Basically Greed on both sides, the investors and FTX. Everyone wants to get rich quick and no one cares to keep tabs on what's really going on.

That's good option to have and I don't know if there's a case running about taking out SBF property just to covered up those people affected and pay them up by using that option. If that is the really possible then its good for the user so that they can still receive some amount and that's good justice for them.

Also would like to see some celebrities got penalize for SBF scam since if they don't participate to promote those scam platforms this FTX and SBF will not became famous.

Since both are guilty, both must be punished.  If they do not receive adequate punishment for the crime they have committed, many will later turn their finger on the justice system and commit this type of crime a second time. 

As we have seen in the SBF scam, FTX has earned people's trust before. FTX has sponsored various big tournaments and campaigns which has created a trust in FTX. By exploiting that trust or trust, they have committed this huge fraud. But many would have expressed satisfaction with the justice system if the SBFK court had taken an initiative to return those whose money they embezzled without sanctioning house arrest. 

People here are making SBF's crimes bigger than Ross Ulbricht's crimes. But both are equally guilty on both sides so both should have been punished. But the fact that one is punished and the other is fine with the family is really surprising.

I'm not sure whether I can state with certainty which of them deserves to be punished, but all I know is that both of them have committed grave crimes and should receive grave punishment. Ulbricht has committed multiple crimes, including hacking into computers and setting up websites where people may buy narcotics and weapons from information I got. According to how I perceive the situation, SBF is guilty and deserves to receive the same prison sentence as ulbricht despite he have not be finalized guilty with his act of money laundry.

SBF's Company FTX Bancroft's $32 Billion Value Drops to Zero Value in an Instant. FTX tried to attract big investors by promoting them in various places. They have sponsored various international sports and have enlisted Hollywood stars including Tom Brady as influencers.  And in the middle of the Super Bowl they promoted ads in what is called the world's most expensive ads spot and they succeeded and It was clashing with Binance.  But due to some mistakes by SBF, FTX vanished overnight.  SBF is solely responsible for this.  The value of FTX was 32 billion dollars which was not the personal property of SBF.  It was a public investment.  So SBF has to take responsibility for these. So SBF should be punished more severely. Because millions of people's hard earned money was deposited  in FTX.

32 billion dollars is not a small amount and what they have done is like an indication or a planned ending but all of that is still speculation to corner someone.
apart from that, making a mistake that ends up causing a lot of people to lose is a crime whether intentional or not.

with their mistakes, being imprisoned is a proper thing, but will that make many people who have lost be satisfied?
i don't think so, many people have lost their money that was kept in FTX, now how do people think for it to be refunded for many lost users.

giving a prison sentence is a punishment that can't change any situation, he who does wrong seems to receive what he deserves without any correction being made to clean up the mistakes made.

 Ross Ulbricht and the SBF should be sentenced to life in prison in my opinion.
I was hearing about a company called Silk Road by Ross Ulbricht. He used to sell illegal drugs there. A case has been filed against him for this. The court sentenced him to life imprisonment.

On the other hand, SBF destroys the crypto market. He wasted billions of FTX investors. A case has been filed against him for this. He was sentenced to 115 years in prison after pleading guilty to multiple counts of fraud in the case. But a special plea deal allows him to remain under house arrest with his family.

What these two criminals did was a very terrible act. They have made so many people out there wipe tears and they should pay for it.
The both of them deserve equal punishment, but because the parents of SBF has money and the judiciary system in USA is too corrupt that's why he's punishment is not much.
Like is my country this has happened, so many people invested on a project and it crashed, So many people lost there money including me. Till date the government haven't done anything about it. These to say in most country, the rich doesn't go through punishment no matter the crime rate.

Cases creating financial loss to many people should be consider as crime against humanity then should have bigger penalty which those accused cannot ask for bail or anything favor to him or them.

Criminals like SBF and Ulbritch terrible actions should not get any little mercy because their crime create big damage to some people believing that they are good businessman but end up being financially destructed by them.

Where a company of 32 billion dollars has gone bankrupt  There is no way for the owner to come and pay that many dollar penalty so it is a false comfort for every user to expect a refund.  So even if the lost dollars are not recovered, the person responsible for this incident should be punished so that he never dares to make such a mistake again. And he should be punished so severely that his punishment will make other billionaire company owners and also small company owners to be careful and not to repeat such incidents in future. He should be jailed for life

If this punishment is delayed in any way, people will lose faith in the justice system. The man who owned $32 billion was not a ordinary man. He will try to do many things with the power of money but if there is even the slightest hint of indifference in his judgement, lots of people will oppose him. The most important thing is that punishment should be given as soon as possible to avoid such occurrences in the future. If there is no big punishment for big criminals, the number of criminals will increase.

Thats a corrupt system for you,  the judiciary system in most countries in Africa especially Nigeria as you stated is very slow and poor when its comes to lashing out the right justice for this kind of acts. And i can recall one or call scam project that people got their money into as investment but were not given the promised rate due to the platform crashing down and till date justice haven't been Given to the people involved in such acts. @barraza investments platform.

So overal a big majority thinks SBF is guilty for more criminal things as Ross

Curious if he will do any time in jail ....

It's clear that SBF is a bigger and riskier criminal than Ross. SBF will definitely go to jail but his sentence will be milder and he might get an early parole or a presidential pardon. I think he prepared for this time with the bribes and inducement that he gave to both democrats and republicans in form of campaign funds. Sometimes mother justice is not blind to some persons because her workers inform of judges have been induced.

Yes because SBF is the well known individual who's been part of FTX crime so majority give big weights about his case. And for many case files against SBF for sure he will be in jailed soon once the officials will take care those cases filed by the victims.

Many wait about the final verdict and they want to see these guys also the other involve get jailed.

Sam Bankman Fried (SBF) embezzled all the people's money and listed himself in the property register.SBF getting political support committed a crime.  However, I find it very sad that he is out of jail despite committing so many crimes.

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Yes, SBF is the biggest criminal he should go to jail. He committed various crimes and cheated thousands of people online. It is also a serious offense in the eyes of the law to pay bribes while in prison for release and to stay under house arrest in one's residence. So there must be punishment. The punishment should be long.

The thing we grow up reading from childhood is that law is equal for all.  Whether he is rich or poor, everyone is equal in the eyes of the law. Just as there is a small punishment for committing a minor crime, there is also a major punishment for committing a major crime, depending on the crime.  But the SBF and Ross Ulbricht case here seems to disprove everything I've been reading since childhood. Because here in the eyes of the law, two people are seen in two ways.  

Ross Ulbricht is a serious criminal we recognize him and he is serving the sentence for the crime he committed ie the court found him guilty.

SBF he is a bigger criminal. Because he has destroyed people's trust and has embezzled all the hard-earned money due to which many investors have opted for suicide. The court found him guilty in this case but on a special plea the court allowed him to stay with his family. That is, through money, he is able to stay with his family even after committing a crime. If the law was equal for all then the court would not have given such a decision. Because of such a decision of the court, maybe more people will dare to commit such crimes.


I now think the court should reconsider the special plea in which they have advised SBF to remain under house arrest and bring him under full sentence. Those who put their wealth in his exchange will get a little bit of peace.

Criminals will commit crimes and after committing crimes, when they are brought under the law, they will plan how to escape from the law. There are two characters in this story and both the characters are criminals and because of the crime the administration brings both of them under the law till now everything is fine. But the law has made two kinds of decisions in respect of two characters. 

Ross Ulbricht was arrested by the police for committing some criminal activity on his website. He sold various narcotics on his website and sold illegal drugs for which he was convicted and sentenced to 40 years in prison and is currently serving a prison sentence. 

SBF has committed one of the biggest scams in history.  His exchange (FTX) had a large amount of money deposited by the people and he embezzled all the money and bankrupted his exchange which led to the court finding him guilty and sent him to prison for 115 years. But his family made a special plea to the court for $250M to allow him to stay with his family and he is still under house arrest with his family. 

SBF's crime is huge if we consider the crime in comparison and if he had received full punishment for his crime then everyone would not have spoken against the law like this.  But I hope the court will consider this matter once more and bring him under his punishment.

First of all I did not know about their crime before.  But after creating this topic I read everyone's posts and comments and later realized that two people committed the crime but one got the punishment. Basically here the law sees two criminals for money. Ross Ulbricht He was doing some illegal drugs and hacking on his website We all know how dangerous hacking and illegal drugs are for everyone. That is why he was convicted and punished by the court and is still serving the punishment. SBF's crime is bigger than Ross Ulbricht's crime. He embezzled all of an exchange's money and declared his exchange bankrupt. The court sentenced him to 115 years in prison for embezzling people's wealth. But he is currently staying with his family in exchange for money. The general public can never accept this decision. And to myself it seems that the law has done two justices to both. As one of the fishermen is serving the sentence, the other should also be serving the sentence.

The crime committed by SBF is never forgivable. A sentence of 115 years in prison did not seem like the right punishment to many. However, if he had been sentenced to 115 years in jail, then maybe no one would have protested about these things. But people could not accept being under house arrest in exchange for money.  And more files are being filed against him and we all hope he will go back to jail and the court will give him more punishment than what he was given.  And all punishments will be enforced by the court. This will strengthen the faith of the common people towards the legal system.

Ross Ulbricht is a criminal but he deserves pardon compared to SBF's disrespectful work activities. Sam Bankman-Fried is a disgraced man whose mask is slowly being revealed to everyone. He has used FTX holder's money as hundreds of illegal political donations. He has created a history of stealing customer money by ignoring the trust of billions of people. In recent times, the allegations have been confirmed. Earlier he was found guilty of 8 charges but now more new charges are being proved. But the interesting thing is that he still claims to be not guilty. Of course, no one wants to admit their guilt. Evidence of further misdeeds may be found if he is brought under diplomatic cover.

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The punishment that was given to Sam Bankman Fried isn't good enough, why?  Because SBF has destroyed the lives of so many people and most of them have lost their lives because of his terrible act.
For the supreme court to verdict, SBF to jail for 115 isn't good enough because, after 115 years in jail, he might come out and commit another crime.

Yes, Sam Bankman Fried will look for another opportunity to commit another crime once he is out of prison.  Therefore, so that the people can not admit to cheating for the second time, arrangements should be made to take him to jail again.  By embezzling people's money, thousands of people are on the verge of suicide.  That is why we again demand the law to punish him.

You are right but I think the laws of all countries are being sold to money. Ross Ulbricht has been punished more than the crimes he committed. But I think Sam Bankman-Fried was sentenced to 115 years in prison for the crimes he committed. But under the current law, his bail was granted by the court by signing a plea agreement and paying Rs. He was later reported to be under house arrest but is currently not living under house arrest. As before, he is living a good life with his family. It was not the court that made the right decision at all, but Sam Bankman-Fried was not punished for his crimes at all.  But Ross Ulbricht is still being punished for his crimes. On the other hand, Sam Bankman-Fried continues to live happily and peacefully with his family.

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prison is a place to refine or correct the mindset of the criminal. But it is not necessarily that, it is a place of dead but all the depend on the offence. Yes prison term can not be equal because the crimes are or were not the same. If someone killed, the jail term will be different from the person who steal, they are of different magnitude so the prison terms must be different. The one who killed will serve longer than the one who steal. If keep all those boys in the society without imprisoning them, they will over do with innocent people, rape, killing, Arm Robbery with become legal to them. Therefore keeping those ones in prison will also sensitize the society.

C'mon bro 115 years isn't good enough? Well for me I think that verdict really cuts it but that's if actually he will stay that long in prison because everyone knows how the system works, it won't even be a surprise if he can manipulate his way out of the sentence. But I know one thing that is for sure, no one can actually serve such long jail sentence and still come with such mindset of defrauding others. For starters the prison is an environment for correction of ill character and behaviors for humans, its no longer called a prison in my region the government had to change the name to a correctional center for restricted individuals.

I just do hope they not get any special treatment on jail once those guys penalized to the crime they do since if they got special benefits because they are damn rich for stealing money of people then justice still not serve with that.

They deserve to suffer for what financial loss they give to the people think they are good and they don't deserve to be free until they didn't serve the crime they do to many people. For sure many will be happy to see those guys be in jail and they really deserve that.

If SBF is kept free from jail I think he will look for an opportunity to commit another big crime. He is currently under house arrest but will commit various types of crimes. If he is not punished for the first time, he will plan to commit a second major crime later. And for the second time will steal thousands of people's money. But we can never accept it, I think it would be better to keep him in jail.

Got surprise when there's a one member vote for both SBF and Ulbricht not to go in jail, maybe he like what those two guys do  :D. Also there's lacking on the choices since both oh them deserve to go to jail because crime they do is so big. Although SBF is the who deserve more of it because he is the face of FTX.

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A total of 48 people participated to vote on the voter button above. Here you realize that thousands of people have been duped in this way. And out of 48 individuals, 42 individuals claimed the Sam Banksman Fried (SBF) penalty and 5 five individuals claimed the Ross Ulbricht penalty.  And 1 person did not endorse anyone. So I think SBF should be punished.

We demand that those who have filed cases in the name of SBF should be swiftly punished by the administration. Let him be imprisoned with speedy punishment. Under house arrest he will try to harm more people.  And execution would be best.

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The nature of world politics has changed exceptionally in recent times. Where politicians use crime as their tool. in consequence of big criminals do not hesitate to commit various kinds of big crimes under that political shadow. In order to punish them, the political shadow must be dismantled. At present big criminals are getting off because of various weaknesses of the law despite committing crimes in public which does not bode well at all. Even if a criminal is caught today, they are not punished. As a result, new criminals are being created consistently. If the level of crime increases, then what is the need for law or administration? I think the two men should be given a punishment that scares people away from the heinous crime. SBF and Ross Ulbricht  both are egregious offenders. None of them should be exempted.

SBF came out a lot on the public promoting FTX together with those influencers and famous celebrities that's why ie is the well known guy pointed out to receive more heavier penalty about this case.

And I do agree with other saying that because this could give good relief to other people bothered about SBF temporary freedom.

Many awaits that this criminals will be prosecuted and get a lifetime sentence since this could give big satisfaction for many victims of their scam platform. Sound harsh but they deserve that.

FTX was the fastest growing crypto exchange in the world. And besides Binance almost everyone knows FTX as a trusted and big crypto exchange so everyone knows SBF like @CZ_Binance who owns Binance Exchange. And SBF's company FTX has damage millions of people billions of dollars.  So everyone wants severe punishment of SBF. And that's why SBF got more votes because he should be severely punished and it should be ensured that he doesn't get away with money or political power in any way.

The both of them deserve to be in prison because the art of scam is a fraudulent criminal art so both of them conspired together an Carry out the same art so thy deserved the same punishment I thnk the both of them should be in jail to avoid more havoc or criminal activities.

We all have denounced SBF as a big fraud. He looted thousands of people's money but later the punishment given to him by the court did not last long for SBF. But according to the polls Ross Ulbricht is not a very big criminal to the people and he is serving the punishment for his crime. But we can see that SBF is the highest offender and its crime rate is very high. His life under house arrest was no punishment at all for his crime.

Sam bankman fraid is a hardened fraud star and he needs to pay hardly for his crimes, SBF should not come out of jail because if he does, he will commit another crime and the second crime might be worse than the previous crime...  Am pretty much sure that this is not the first crime he has committed.

I am new to this forum. In fact I know nothing about the two men mentioned here. But after reading everyone's posts here and later with more information I found two men committed a heinous crime. Ross Ulbricht's is the lesser of the two heinous crimes. He created Silk Road, a website through which darknet market illegal activities were conducted. And he was sentenced to two life terms and fined for creating this website. So far he is a convicted accused.

SBF who is the most hated person in the crime world. The crime he committed was the FTX bankruptcy. FTX bankruptcy has completely destroyed the entire cryptocurrency market. For which the market has not been able to solve so far. Many investors lost their investments. Finally, unable to bear their loss, they chose to commit suicide. Why was this man allowed to stay with his family on bail from jail despite committing so many crimes. My question is that the SBF should give Ross Ulbricht a longer sentence and keep him in jail. So that after seeing their punishment, no one should have the courage to commit such a crime.

Ross Ulbricht is in jail and SBF is doing speaking engagements with Zelenskyyand Yellen. There’s nothing more infuriating.
At least Ulbricht created a genuine free market which will have contributed to the US economy for good or ill.

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I'm not exactly an expert on the crime (under)world, but I highly doubt that he holds the title for "most hated person" among those circles.   :D


Let me check some facts for you:

The BTC price before the FTX collapse was approximately $21,000. As of today, the BTC price is around $22,000 (although it was around $25,000 just 15 days ago). The total cryptocurrency market cap before the FTX collapse was just over $1 trillion. Today, the market cap is still a little over $1 trillion. So, why do you think the market hasn't recovered since then? Also, I definitely don't agree that the FTX bankruptcy destroyed the cryptocurrency market, so I'm curious where you got that from.

 
If the criminals were given full punishment by the law after committing the crime and if those sentences were carried out then maybe there would not be so many big crimes in the world. Every criminal thinks ten times about the punishment before committing such a crime. But here the law lends itself to them. Many serious crimes can now be reduced by money, which further encourages criminals to commit crimes. Until the justice system changes people will continue to commit crimes and it will increase.

Political support is one of the refuges of criminals.  Maximum criminals work under political leaders. No matter how great the crime they commit, they are always forgiven.  Meanwhile, even if the criminal is not punished, the general public is affected. If we come to the context of SBF then we can clearly see that here the loss is to the general public.  The publican who embezzled so much money is now at home with his family. So the government system should think about the people and those who take all these decisions should first imagine themselves in the place of the person who has deposited all his wealth in the Ftx exchange.  If they think like this and ever make a decision, I hope the decision never goes in favor of criminals.

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All the members who have been accused and arrested for their involvement in the "Silk Road" have been sentenced to various terms. Some have been sentenced to 10 years, some five years, some six years, some five months, some six months etc. But just look at the sentence of Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht, who was sentenced to two life terms and 40 more years without parole. The sentence was lenient in all cases, but only in the case of Ross Ulbricht, the sentence was irregular. I think his sentence should be reconsidered.

The information you mentioned did not hurt the Bitcoin market in any way due to the bankruptcy on the FTX platform.  Rather, another one was developed that touched 25K, the fastest growing Bitcoin market in 2023.

The point is Ross Ulbricht -Sam Bankman Fried (SBF) these two men committed the crime.  Ross Ulbricht proved to be the man who deserved the longest sentence for whatever crime he committed.

Meanwhile, SBF has proven to be a common criminal in the eyes of the law by defrauding thousands of people.  Still under house arrest for paying illegal money to the law.  Thousands of people are demanding punishment for the owner of an FTX due to SBF's crimes.  This claim should be carefully looked into by the legal persons of the United States.

And so that he does not get another chance to deceive people, there is a movement to punish him for this.

U.S. law enforcement officials and attorneys have led to Sam Backman's acquittal. He is under house arrest after breaking out of jail by committing totally illegal scams and paying bribes. According to me SBF should be killed by crossfire. In the future, the common people cannot be cheated by engaging in any other bad activities. I am totally in favor of punishing the SBF.

I don't know US law enforcement officials and attorneys acquitted Sam Backman. He can be on bail. Because we saw a few days ago, new charges were brought against him. Is it possible to acquit him of such a crime? However, the victims can heave a sigh of relief if the court finds them guilty and gives befitting punishment. If he is not punished then very soon there will be a bigger criminal than him ‍and the administration, law and courts will be responsible for this.

I think Ross Ulbricht was given the maximum sentence. It was found that all the other criminals were not punished so much they committed crimes and were punished less. But it was different in the case of Ross Ulbricht, who was sentenced to life in prison. While "Silk Road" used the website for many crimes and sentenced them. They are living well now but Ross Ulbricht is still serving his life in prison. I really can't accept that he has been punished so much." Court I want Ross Ulbricht sentence reduced.

Both R Ulbricht and SBF should be punished for the type of activities they have committed but in this case the punishment varies, one to life in prison (2×life+Extra40) and the other to life under house arrest with family bond. But R Ulbricht, the founder of Silk Road, did not run his company for the purpose he created it, he essentially turned his company into a hub for drug trafficking. His biggest mistake was that he ran his organization independently without being a face of any political party. On the other hand SBF had a major role in the bankruptcy of his company FTX. Due to the role played by the political circles, his punishment has been greatly reduced and at some point his punishment will be greatly reduced. But Silk Road founder R Ulbricht is currently supporting various educational awareness, teaching and financial support for the incarcerated family members in prisons and has set up the Art4Giving Charity for this. However, although appeals have been made to the government regarding his punishment and re-investigation of his trial, no positive decision has been taken so far by the law department of the government. The government should waive his sentence and reinvestigate it.

Money can speak up everything so maybe he use his influence to temporarily escape the jail but I still believe the law and victims will get proper justice to what they experience to this guy. SBF deserve biggest punishment because for sure this is what their scam victim wants so that he suffer and regret on what he do to many people also to his greed for money. He's big criminal already and if he didn't get punish on this case then provability he will just repeat this then scam again another set of people so government should prosecute this guy to avoid another financial loss again.

Currently FTX owns $9 billion in customer funds destroyed. FTX's owner Sam Backman Fried allegedly allowed Alameda to borrow more than $9 billion in assets from customer accounts, according to a presentation to customers. Sam Bankman Fried currently faces 12 federal charges.  More victims filed lawsuits against him. Re-sentences are long-standing and file for incarceration. Later SBF should not get a chance to commit any crime.

But he brought his sentence from jail to his home with a huge amount of money. It is normal for criminals to be sentenced to prison if they commit a crime but house arrest with family is never included in the sentence. And the crime he has committed must suffer the severest punishment.  That is, he should be kept in such a prison that no sunlight ever enters, that is, he should feel that he is in hell from earth. Because many people committed suicide due to his scam. Therefore, the court should reconsider the matter and give due weight to the sentence received by SBS.

Currently the Judiciary and Law lose to money. One thing we should really keep in mind is that if these people commit such heinous crimes they are not punished then there are many people who will not hesitate to do such heinous acts. If SBF was punished severely, the whole world would have seen it. And to do such things later, they must have followed this punishment and refrained from such things. I myself am a victim investor in the SBF scam. I hate his easy sentence as a victim investor. I again demand that he should be re-sentenced and imprisoned for life.

You have rightly said that law is the most important contributor to politics in the current era. Of course we have seen SBF he may have been identified and connected with some major political party due to which he was acquitted of his crime. In all the countries of the present era, the political leaders have bought the hands of the law. Instead of punishing the criminals, they set them free in the political arena. At present SBF is the biggest crook and the criminal punished him by law but later he was released. The fact that he was released after committing such a big crime must mean that he has connections with SBF and various political leaders.

He was sentenced to 115 years in prison for his crimes.  Many times it is seen that if a person is killed, the court sentences him to life imprisonment. I think 115 years imprisonment is much more than life imprisonment. And the reason behind his getting such a big sentence is because he embezzled huge amount of people's money. But everyone was happy to hear about his 115-year jail term but when the news of his house arrest came out, everyone spoke against him and against the court. All were saying the same thing that the court had sold out to money. But when the SBF sentence comes into effect, all those who protested against its verdict will get a little relief. Those who had deposited their wealth in its exchange may have forgotten their hope of getting their money back now that their only hope is that the person who defrauded them is severely punished and executed. Hope the court will look into these matters and give the sbf a befitting sentence.

Sam Bankman Fried "SBF" is moving to the top of various crimes. It is best if SBF is sentenced in the current situation because the list of crimes will increase as the days go by. Since embezzling people's money, he has bribed court officials and bribed officials of the judiciary.  These are serious crimes in the eyes of the law so he should not be allowed to commit any more crimes. He should be brought under the law as soon as possible and punished accordingly. He bribed various people to get the chance of house arrest so I think he should be jailed and given the longest sentence.

There were three transfers from US law enforcement wallets.  These wallets were seized by US companies in 2021 and contained 51,000 BTC linked to the marketplace, combining two Wall addresses.

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Bitcoins were transferred from Silk Road to three different addresses. Therefore Silk Road was a prominent online black market that was opened in 2011 by Ross Ulbricht.

newspaper (https://cointelegraph.com.br/news/silk-road-bitcoin-for-sale-us-government-linked-addresses-transfer-1b-in-btc/amp)

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Sam Bankman Fried's sentence was reduced even after he committed a much larger crime. The entire FTX was destroyed and all the people's wealth vanished in an instant. and has embezzled the wealth of thousands of people. Despite committing such a heinous crime, he is usually in prison under house arrest. I for my part hate the lawmen and the SBF. Hanging him to death would be the best punishment.

In my opinion SBF like Ross Ulbricht should be sentenced to life in prison.

Ross Ulbricht had a company called Skill Road. He used to sell illegal drugs there. Because of this, the court sentenced him to life imprisonment.

SBF on the other hand destroys the crypto market. He has wasted billions of FTX investors. Many have committed suicide because of it. A case was filed against SBF. He was sentenced to 115 years in prison after being found guilty of fraud alone in this case. A special plea deal allows him to remain under house arrest with his family.

Because he wasted many people's pain and money. Due to this many commit suicide. SBF destroys people's faith. Because of this the crypto market suffers a lot. Therefore, he should be sentenced to life imprisonment

Both Samuel Bankman-Fried and Ross Ulbricht have been involved in various illegal activities and both are notorious criminals who ineligible for any bail. SBF has been accused of market manipulation and insider trading where Ross Ulbricht was the founder of Silk Road, an online marketplace of illegal goods and services. One is serving a felony sentence and the other is still fighting a legal battle with his case still pending, so the SBF has yet to receive a sentence.

However, no one can yet predict what the SBF punishment will be as it is the legal system and courts determine the appropriate punishment for each crime based on the evidence and circumstances of the case.

Many people waiting about this since many are want to know if SBF will get a long sentence than Ross Ulbritch. If SBF will be the new record breaking crypto criminal who will get a long time sentence for sure this will create fear to the other who think about doing the same.

But if he get bailable sentence well this will totally mess up the justice system, but I don't believe that this will happen since the evidence is so strong and to many cases has been filed to him.

The crime committed by SBF should never be looked down upon by any court. Because if there are many big crimes in the world of crime, the crime of SBF is one of them. He should get SBF maximum sentence for this crime as he sees the punishment of this fraud so that others will not dare to cheat and the court should take some more steps to recover the embezzled money from him and those who deposited money in his exchange. Restitution will greatly increase people's confidence in the law.

He may never get bail from the court because of his crime.  One wish of all is that the crime proved against SBF and the punishment meted out to him after the crime is proved, should be executed quickly.

I also agree with you that if SBF is given the harshest punishment then all the fraudsters in the world will burst out of it so they don't want to do anything like that. Everyone will be happy if there is such a punishment. I think everyone will be very happy if some people involved are punished. Because they  Anyone who has suffered can easily forget it.  I don't know if it will be easily forgotten.

First of all everyone expressed satisfaction with the sentence that the court gave him. And he forgot that people lost so much money in his exchange. But the problem came when the court allowed him to remain under house arrest with family members. There is a big difference between serving a prison sentence and being under house arrest with family members. During the corona virus we saw people who were infected with covid 19 or those who had corona symptoms were isolated or put under house arrest. This does not mean that the family is punishing him by isolating him or keeping him under house arrest. House arrest is never a sentence.  So the court should look into his crime and investigate more against him. And let him be brought back under house arrest with his family members and face full punishment. If not, people's faith in the legal system will be lost forever. And criminals will consider the law their friend.

The type or duration of punishment SFB will get might largely depend on how he corporates with the law enforcement agencies. If he fails to open up about his criminal activities and refuses to name his accomplices he might get a harsh punishment if it was discovered by law enforcement agencies. If he also reveals where he kept some of the wealth or money he stole from FTX, it might lead to a lighter punishment.

Harsh punishment tends to serve as a deterrent but it might not serve is a potent restraint because people still commit crimes even if it will lead to capital punishment. But I don't think SBF will get a very harsh punishment because he has highly-placed political connections.

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I read the biographies of the two and found that Ross Ulbricht was punished for the lesser crime according to their crimes. Sam Bankman Fried (SBF) embezzled crores of people's money and put thousands of people on the verge of suicide and went unpunished despite being punished by the judiciary. SBF has cheated people in many ways so SBF should be punished by hanging. So that he does not get the opportunity to commit any crime in the future. Initially the victims were relieved when they got the sentence but later it was revealed that the high court and high officials who are in the judiciary allowed him to remain under house arrest by taking a hefty bribe from the SBF. Due to this, the victims raised more agitations and filed cases in court. So I would like to re-check the case files of SBF and give him appropriate punishment.

Finally Ross Ulbricht should be exonerated and awarded the Nobel SurPrize and the SBF should be hanged again. Because judging according to the crime, this is the verdict for me.

I don't know for everyone but I think your decision is kinda absurd because looking at the two person involved in this act, they all actually committed fraudulent crimes because they all temper with the emotion and financial life of many individual who were involved in this. Although SBF actually found a way to influence his punishment but this doesn't still clear the fact that Ross Ulbricht is also guilty and also deserved punishment rather I think there is another lesson to be learned here which is we should all avoid fraudulent activities and no one should lure anyone into such as one person may go purnish and the other unpurnish just as the case between Ross Ulbricht and sam bankman fried(SBF).

FTX was a popular exchanger of the present time.  And it has become very popular among the users within a short period of time as the users get various facilities from it.  And billions of users started investing here and everyone considered it as Binance Alternative.  But despite its popularity, it went bankrupt at the last moment and FTX users lost their huge amount of money.  And the exchange was owned by SBF so everyone considered SBF a worse criminal than Ross Ulbricht. SFB was a smart person and he managed to make his exchanger very popular in a very short time which other companies never did.  Because of which everyone considers him as a big and terrible scammer.

What SBF has led so many investors to frustration and regrets that some might never forget for the rest of their lives. Imagine that SBF can manipulated  his way into the crypto market with shaddy politicians in order to scam a large number of people in disguise of an exchange. This is the biggest scam so far,that I have heard of and therefore he shouldn't go unpunished, justice must be done. If not he might go back again and use another name to start up another scam project, maybe still an exchange or something. If he is sent to jail,the he will learn in the hard way,just the way he scammed people of their hard earned funds.

Many influencers help him to reach far and penetrate to those more influential people. This is alerting because people nowadays are not afraid to do big crimes even if their identity is been exposed around the world and its really good for the government to take action so that victims can get a justice for what they experience bad on their supposed to be good investment on trading's which they expect to run good by using FTX exchange.

If the judges consider the pains he has caused so many people and their families, he would get a very harsh sentence. If the crypto world measures the bad reputation he attracted to the industry, it will be worth so much. He is fortunate that he is an American, China and other authoritarian nation would have handed him at least a life jail sentence.


Only a few people care about a good name. Money and fame rule our world now. People know that they can always bribe their way out of any problem so they commit crimes at will. With the money, they can hire the best lawyers, influence judges, and lobby politicians. SBF has the money (people's money) and it gave him access to powerful people. His donations and support to political parties cleared the path for him to become influential. But I don't think his connections can set him free because there is much evidence of his financial recklessness. But one thing is sure, his connections will influence his punishment.

Of course you are right because both SBF and Ross Ulbricht are major criminals. I think it is not right to look at any of them because they are criminals. But now SBF is a big criminal but he is not facing any punishment but he is now living free from jail. But another big criminal Ross Ulbricht is still serving the punishment for his crime. Therefore the court did not decide that between the two criminals SBF was not punished for his crime. Of course I think both should be punished equally.

Sam Bankman said during an interview long before FTX collapsed, his best advice when buying into the krypton market was not to put in more money than you were willing to lose.

As it turned out, it was the best financial advice that ever came out of his mouth. I wonder if it was his conscience speaking? Now he's become one of the biggest frauds so far, with this case hopefully he gets a heavy sentence, much tougher than Ross Ulbricht's sentence.

When someone comes for interview he tries to give good advice. Whether or not Bankman-Fried planned his theft at that time I cannot say but normally people who work in public functions and speak well in front of the public have different views. As we have seen in Bankman-Fried.

Users money without their permission should be a serious offense for the crime he commits, but when the money is used for a risky activity, it is considered a more serious crime. FTX chief Bankman-Fried is in danger after his blue-chip scheme to increase his wealth is revealed. Under US securities laws, it is illegal to commingle customer funds with counterparties and trade without their express consent. Ross Ulbricht and  Bankman-Fried both should be punished maximum ‍according to the law.

SBF may have planned this scam in advance. So maybe he was proceeding according to plan step by step. He chose various special events to popularize his exchange which he sponsored and tried to gain loyalty of this exchange and he succeeded.

FTX was a sponsor at the ICC World Cup event and from there FTX achieved a lot of marketing success.  And bankrupted the exchange by embezzling people's money just as people had invested huge sums of money in its exchange. He did it completely according to the plan and for that he had a lot of patience and waited for a long time. He is one of the most hated people in history. He should be punished more severely. The court should execute the sentence given to him quickly to show the people that the law is above no one.

Well I guess a master mind who is into fraud would have done same thing as marketing your product would be the first step and after a solid ground is gain, then you strike when your clients least expect. Same scenario occurred in my locality the platform was called bliss emporium, but it was a trading company, people actually invested their fund and the company trade with it gives you triple of your actual investment which at first worked for some months and people started trusting the company and they got lots of clients and investors but suddenly one day everything went downhill and closed up due to them not meeting up with the payment schedules and lots of people lost their money in the platform.

SBF suffered a crime but I don't think he did it intentionally.  I think he recognized it and was forced to do it.  Because no one will ever let his successful business go to waste so easily. and don't you want something like that to happen.  Did I tell the truth? However, since one of SBF's institutions has gone bankrupt and lost millions of users' funds, SBF has to be held responsible for failing to maintain it properly and therefore SBF is guilty. And SBF has to return these funds to the users or face severe penalties

Basically, both of them deserve this punishment, because many cases related to them have been proven by the parties responsible there, but for the Ross Ulbricht case I don't see justice for a life sentence (death penalty). Despite the crimes these two have committed, I respect the anonymous buying concept developed, but not the crimes they have committed.

The site is run under the pseudonym Dread Pirate Roberts, this name is taken from one of the fictional characters I have seen in various media. This case if studied further is too involved in politics and that is why politics can play a bigger role than the actual reality.

SBF clearly belongs in prison for the rest of his life. The amount of money he grifted and directed at woke causes while stifling Bitcoin’s price to pump shitcoins is absolutely shocking. It shows the wisdom of these liberal elite college grads who think they know everything. The fact the Ross, a man with actual skills who was promoting freedom is in jail, while SBF who is one of the biggest financial criminals in history sits at home eating Mom’s cooking shows just how crooked the system is and who, particularly SBF’s bought liberal politicians, are willing to sell out the people for their own financial security.

Unfortunately it's nothing new.  This is being going on for decades now, but the American people have been manipulated, propagandized, and deceived into being too complicit to even notice.

Obama, Biden, both Clintons, Pelosi, Schumer, McConnel, and Bush 43 should all be in jail.  There's nothing liberal about the Democrats I mentioned, and there's nothing conservative about these Republicans.  These are corrupt puppets of Power Money.  As George Carlton would say, when interests align there's no need for a conspiracy.

It's easy to find all the corrupt swamp-rats in Washington these days; just look to see who supports sending money and weapons to Ukraine, and who is pushing the agenda of the Climate Industrial Complex.  Throw the bums out!

Sam Backman Fred(SBF) should be in prison for life for his crimes. But the American legal system and some ruling factions (SBF) allowed him to eat his mother's cooking at home with his wife by taking illegal money. But the question of thousands of people dying because of SBF has become the worst thing for all people to fulfill their own interests. The illegal act committed by his fellow judges is the most heinous act to human beings as it is never possible by the laws of such a great country.  American juries will not hesitate to auction off their own country's people to get their own finances.
Ross was indeed a good man who preached independence for the country he created with his intelligence. But Ross is now sitting in jail.

SBF is a heinous criminal man in today's world. The way he looted people's money and made people completely destitute. But I also think that SBF has had this plan in mind for a long time, which is why he popularizes his FTX exchange by constantly sponsoring it in various places. And when most of the people in the world have invested here trusting investment then betray everyone like this. But I think his sentence of 115 years in prison for this crime was enough for him. But in terms of the present law is not so good because of which the court grants bail to him instead of sentencing him. It is understood that this plan of SBF was also joined by big political leaders due to which SBF was released from jail in exchange for power and money.

You can't directly say that SBF has planned this from long time.  Because you have no direct evidence. Do you want your successful company to be destroyed? Where it was a successful and top exchange like Binance I don't think they will let their company get destroyed. But since SBF failed to protect his company and protect users' funds, he has to take full responsibility for it. So in this eyes he is guilty and his punishment is determined. So I also expect severe punishment for him

SBF planned it. He even paid politicians to have him on his side and so look at how he is today, he still is not in prison.
Ulbricht is just someone who wants to make money but he is also a libertarian who wants a free market. But because the Silkroad is just too popular, it becomes a target for the government to stop it. 

There was no real information and Ross never got to have the chance to speak publicly. He is gonna be inside for life with nothing to bargain.

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I have been hearing since childhood that he has all the money. There is no punishment for him if he commits a crime. Now I see it with my own eyes that he who has money does not care to commit any crime. He suppresses all the truth with money. Whoever has money at present has everything behind him. SBF committed such a big crime. But what is his punishment for being with the family? I don't understand this kind of punishment. How many people's future was ruined for that. How many people's faith was broken? But accordingly he is punished like this. Then everyone will commit such a crime. Because SBF punishment will be accepted by everyone.

SBF is Paying His Legal Fees Using Alameda’s Money
Buried in a mountain of charges from the Justice Department, Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF) is reportedly paying his legal fees with money gifted to his father that was initially borrowed from his trading firm, Alameda Research. details in here https://cryptopotato.com/sbf-is-paying-his-legal-fees-using-alamedas-money-report/
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SBF He may have planned such a scam in advance. Seeing that he had planned such scams in advance, he gave money to various political leaders so that in the future such scams, the politicians would support him. And work has been done accordingly. 

When he successfully ran the FTX scam he was arrested by the police and after his arrest he was convicted and sentenced to 115 years in prison but he is staying at home instead of jail under political asylum even though his status is called house arrest. But how can a criminal stay at home without being punished.

Well that would provably happen so much better all properties or wealth which is connected to SBF should be freeze to so that he cannot use the money he stole from people to possible pay some corrupt official to manipulate this case. Government need to take action regarding on what SBF could possibly do so that they can successfully prosecute this guy and make him pay for those scam he do.

As planned, the SBF Act allowed her to eat her mother's hand-cooked food. This is the saddest thing because if he had been in prison for 115 years there would have been no problem because the crime had reached the heinous stage which made him punishable. Finally, the law supports him and allows him to remain under house arrest, that's why the question arises in the minds of all people. Now we will never condone his scam and demand that the law punish him again. Common people will lose faith in the law and SBF may face scams again so we demand punishment again.

Ross Ulbricht, was arrested by United States federal authorities for allegedly facilitating the sale of narcotics and money laundering through the site. Ulbricht was known by the pseudonym "Dread Pirate Roberts" or DPR in Operation Silk Road.

Now According to a Watcher News  (https://watcher.guru/news/us-government-to-sell-41500-bitcoin-1-18-billion-connected-to-silk-road) report, the US Government Will Sell Lots of BTC. based on the details of the latest court documents the US Government will sell 45 thousand BTC confiscated in connection with the Silk Road. It is known that the US Government is currently the largest holder of BTC, with more than 205,000 coins coming from the confiscation of the case, including 50,000 BTC from the case of James Zhong which was found in a can of popcorn he stole from Silk Road. The sale is planned to be carried out in four phases throughout 2023. Court documents detail that the Government has begun liquidating 51,351.89 of the seized Bitcoins. As of March 14, 2023, the US Government has sold 9,861 BTC, leaving 41,490.72 BTC for sale under the new plan.

The best place for criminals in prison. Yes, they deserve to be there more than having to roam the streets which makes the crime rate increase. Life imprisonment is appropriate for her for the offense she committed for creating and operating the darknet market website Silk Road. Ross can still operate his crimes even though he is in custody, several corrupt officials can be invited to work together to continue his mission. IMO
Both SBF and Ross Ulbricht must be treated equally with the same punishment, they have caused the loss of many people and prison has become the most beautiful home for them to continue their life.

According to the latest news SBF bribed at least one Chinese government official with a $40 million payment by 2021. US prosecutors opened new duties against the bankman-fried for allegedly bribing Chinese officials $40 million to cash out accounts linked to his trading company Alameda as long as the company is based in China , this is the 13th trial that has been filed against Sam Bankman-Fried since his original indictment in December.

So now that he's at his parents' home in Palo Alto, prosecutors have only reached an agreement with his lawyers on what appears to be his bail including no longer having access to most internet services, he will actually be expected in New York for trial. trial for this new assignment. I hope he will be punished for life.

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https://www.reuters.com/legal/ftxs-bankman-fried-charged-with-bribery-conspiracy-new-indictment-2023-03-28/

How can a fraud that harms large numbers of people be forgiven by putting him under house arrest. What is this law, someone with the status of a high profile criminal is placed under house arrest while those who steal livestock just to make ends meet are left to rot in prison. SBF was able to get all of these facilities regardless of the money he had, there was a process of moving money under the table which made the parties involved give him leniency.
Welcome to the law of the jungle, who is strong he reigns.

The adage we grew up reading from childhood suddenly came to mind that the law is equal for all. But this does not seem to be the case with the SBF scam. The role of the courts in the SBF scam case seems to suggest that the law is one for the rich and one for the poor.

The SBF managed to change the sentence given by the court through a special plea to the court and a huge sum of money.  But my question to the court here is who is the main owner of the huge amount of money SBF has paid you? Did SBF give you this huge amount of money from its own pocket?  Not at all the money that SBF has paid you is not his money at all, it belongs to me and people who have invested like me.  If he can change the sentence of such a big crime by scamming our money, then what is the role of the court here?  I respect the court of law and from that respect ask that he be brought back under the law soon and prove that the law is equal for all.

The benefits of coming from a wealthy family that has connections to American officials. SBF also funded politicians and made deals with many businesses, which earned him too many friends and raised his status even more. This is the situation everywhere in the world. Individuals who have deep inner connections will be treated differently than ordinary individuals like us. In the eyes of these law enforcers, equality does not exist.

I suspect that all the amount of cash he paid came from its investors like you. I am sorry you were one of those investors. The decision of the high court to accept the payment, which is supposed to be part of the funds that should be given back to its investors, makes it harder to retrieve some of your investment at FTX.

We keep hearing more news about the financial scandals that Ftx and its owners engaged in. He was just selfish and don't consider that the money he was spending recklessly was people's hard-earned income. Don't be surprised if the FBI uncovers that this young man even gave a bribe to a past or present president of a nation for asylum or presidential pardon in advance.

He is not yet guilty until a court convicts him. Like every other suspect he was placed on bail and he was able to fulfill his bail conditions which is why he is at home. The court always denies bail to suspects that were trying to escape or had escaped before during trial. SBF has shown that is willing to face the law which was why he didn't challenge his extradition to the US. His special treatment is a result of rh wealth of his parents. Some people are still in custody because they don't have the money or connections to fulfill their bail conditions.

Sam Backman Fred (SBF) despite being convicted, the law allows him to eat his mother's cooking. Because of this, thousands of people have lost faith in the law. So I was a FTX holder I faced a lot of losses so I issued his execution order. Because if a terrible person like SBF is out there, he will get a chance to commit a bigger crime, so I definitely want him hanged.

If law can be bought and sold, who will trust law enforcers anymore?
The case that happened to SBF is unforgivable, many people have been harmed by their actions. He didn't deserve to be treated with respect by giving him permission as an outside prisoner who could enjoy whatever was his daily life.
The law cannot be sharp downwards blunt upwards, anyone who has committed an act that has harmed many people or other unforgivable crimes, he deserves to be in prison without any special treatment from any party.

SBF is a world famous and criminal there is no one in the world who does not know about his crimes. And everyone demanded that he be punished for his wrongdoing. I think he was punished enough for his crimes but he may have been excused because he was a politician. but I strongly condemn the court to punish SBF again and again to serve his sentence.

Considering his crime, the court gave him appropriate punishment. 115 years imprisonment means SBF would have to stay in jail till death if this sentence of the court is executed. Although the court sentenced him, the court did not play any role in the execution of his sentence.  SBF has come out of jail through loopholes in the law. 
By enforcing the sentence of SBF, the court has to prove that the law is equal for all. It is our wish that the court will come out of the decision taken against him immediately.

We all know that law is equal for all but if we notice the extent of the crime of a man called SBF we will know about him. The court sentenced SBF to 115 years of life imprisonment for his crime. But after punishing him for a few days, he was later released from jail in exchange of a court-ordered plea signed by his father and money. And later the court ordered him to live under house arrest. But punishment was not acceptable for SBF in this house arrest life due to which people wanted his punishment again and again. The court granted him bail but did not consider the aspect of his crime properly and I think the court did not do it right at all.

This is political support. I think not only SBF is involved in SBF scam but also some political leaders are involved in its scam. And in whose support the SBF now has a huge opportunity to remain under house arrest with his family in his own home after committing such a heinous crime. The court sentenced him to serve as long as he lives.  But he got out of his sentence on political asylum. We are now in a panic because even after doing such a big scam, he has not been punished, maybe he has seen such a punishment, there are many more famous exchange sites who can do this scam. The sentence of SBF was very necessary to be effective.

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https://twitter.com/RealRossU/status/1640398128645042176?s=19

Man over the course of time realizes his past mistakes and accordingly finds ways to correct himself. More than 10 years ago today, Ross Ulbricht arrived in prison and looked to have passed the most precious ten years of his life. He is now realizing his past mistakes and trying to correct himself accordingly, and he is trying to convince other inmates of the same in his prison. He constantly spreads the wrongs he has corrected among the inmates and is always looking forward to a free life.

Just a tweet on Twitter admitting your mistake and repenting doesn't solve everything. And if those who lost their money through the wrong hunting got their money back then it was right to admit his mistake. Man's mistakes are forgivable but he didn't make mistakes he committed crimes and the amount of crimes he committed is huge because his crimes changed many people's lives. Everyone would have appreciated his change if he had returned everyone's money.  Maybe you can say that it is not possible to return all the money of the person who embezzled, but even if he did not return all the money, if he returned some part of the total amount of money of all the users, still people would forgive him.

SBF is never forgivable in my view. Will he be able to bring back the life of the suicide victims in his scam? He cannot bring them back to life. So no matter how much SBF comforts people, I don't think it is ever forgivable. A few days ago I saw in a news that the court is trying to cover up all his crimes. People will never forgive SBF no matter how much the matter is covered up. Because many people lost a lot of money in this scam and became destitute. I was an FTX investor myself. I myself have been a victim of this scam. Although my investment amount was moderate, I lost a lot here. So no matter how much money he pays back I will never forgive him. There are millions of investors who will never forgive SBF.

The bottom line is that the lives of those who committed suicide because of his scandal will not come back, no matter how much he admits his mistakes or realizes his mistakes, those who committed suicide will not come back. A person who has lost his father will not get his father back. The crime he committed is totally beyond me. I am most surprised by the silence of the court against him. The court should have given him a befitting punishment before the people complained against him but the court completely failed there. It really amazes me that the court stood by him instead of punishing him.

SBF is a notorious terrorist roaming alone outside the jail.  And other people Ulbricht is undoubtedly a liberator.
He is rotting in jail and eating delicious food cooked by SBF mother's hand and wife. It must be judged.

I believe that criminals can change and become useful to themselves and society at large. That is why there is an avenue for prisoners to prove their redemption and be allowed to show that they are changed individuals. Ross Ulbricht's crimes harmed many people and society but he could help heal his past and the past of victims. I know there are still some dark web networks still engaging in the activities he promoted and ran. With his diverse knowledge and experience, he could help law enforcement agents to identify and dismantle them. He should be given a second chance because he has paid the price for his action for ten years.

SBF trial will begin on October 2nd and his lawyers are even making an effort to buy more time because they are claiming that they need more time to prepare for the case. I will be interesting to follow up the proceeding and the final verdict.

To say that he is wandering outside, he is allowed to be under house arrest in his house under the special process of law, but in fact he is not under house arrest when he comes home, he is moving about in his house normally like a normal person. The court should not have taken his scandal so easily. The person who got the sentence should have been sentenced not only with the general sentence but with more punishment because his scam is worse than killing people. So far I don't know if his sentence will be reinstated or if he will stay in his home for as long as he lives.