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Question: Who should be in prison more
SBF - 56 (88.9%)
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March 13, 2023, 10:47:44 AM
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In my opinion SBF like Ross Ulbricht should be sentenced to life in prison.

Ross Ulbricht had a company called Skill Road. He used to sell illegal drugs there. Because of this, the court sentenced him to life imprisonment.

SBF on the other hand destroys the crypto market. He has wasted billions of FTX investors. Many have committed suicide because of it. A case was filed against SBF. He was sentenced to 115 years in prison after being found guilty of fraud alone in this case. A special plea deal allows him to remain under house arrest with his family.
However, no one can yet predict what the SBF punishment will be as it is the legal system and courts determine the appropriate punishment for each crime based on the evidence and circumstances of the case.

Many people waiting about this since many are want to know if SBF will get a long sentence than Ross Ulbritch. If SBF will be the new record breaking crypto criminal who will get a long time sentence for sure this will create fear to the other who think about doing the same.

But if he get bailable sentence well this will totally mess up the justice system, but I don't believe that this will happen since the evidence is so strong and to many cases has been filed to him.

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Many people waiting about this since many are want to know if SBF will get a long sentence than Ross Ulbritch. If SBF will be the new record breaking crypto criminal who will get a long time sentence for sure this will create fear to the other who think about doing the same.
The crime committed by SBF should never be looked down upon by any court. Because if there are many big crimes in the world of crime, the crime of SBF is one of them. He should get SBF maximum sentence for this crime as he sees the punishment of this fraud so that others will not dare to cheat and the court should take some more steps to recover the embezzled money from him and those who deposited money in his exchange. Restitution will greatly increase people's confidence in the law.

But if he get bailable sentence well this will totally mess up the justice system, but I don't believe that this will happen since the evidence is so strong and to many cases has been filed to him.
He may never get bail from the court because of his crime.  One wish of all is that the crime proved against SBF and the punishment meted out to him after the crime is proved, should be executed quickly.

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March 14, 2023, 05:24:05 AM
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Many people waiting about this since many are want to know if SBF will get a long sentence than Ross Ulbritch. If SBF will be the new record breaking crypto criminal who will get a long time sentence for sure this will create fear to the other who think about doing the same.
The crime committed by SBF should never be looked down upon by any court. Because if there are many big crimes in the world of crime, the crime of SBF is one of them. He should get SBF maximum sentence for this crime as he sees the punishment of this fraud so that others will not dare to cheat and the court should take some more steps to recover the embezzled money from him and those who deposited money in his exchange. Restitution will greatly increase people's confidence in the law.

But if he get bailable sentence well this will totally mess up the justice system, but I don't believe that this will happen since the evidence is so strong and to many cases has been filed to him.
He may never get bail from the court because of his crime.  One wish of all is that the crime proved against SBF and the punishment meted out to him after the crime is proved, should be executed quickly.
I also agree with you that if SBF is given the harshest punishment then all the fraudsters in the world will burst out of it so they don't want to do anything like that. Everyone will be happy if there is such a punishment. I think everyone will be very happy if some people involved are punished. Because they  Anyone who has suffered can easily forget it.  I don't know if it will be easily forgotten.

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March 14, 2023, 11:51:04 AM
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The crime committed by SBF should never be looked down upon by any court. Because if there are many big crimes in the world of crime, the crime of SBF is one of them. He should get SBF maximum sentence for this crime as he sees the punishment of this fraud so that others will not dare to cheat and the court should take some more steps to recover the embezzled money from him and those who deposited money in his exchange. Restitution will greatly increase people's confidence in the law.
First of all everyone expressed satisfaction with the sentence that the court gave him. And he forgot that people lost so much money in his exchange. But the problem came when the court allowed him to remain under house arrest with family members. There is a big difference between serving a prison sentence and being under house arrest with family members. During the corona virus we saw people who were infected with covid 19 or those who had corona symptoms were isolated or put under house arrest. This does not mean that the family is punishing him by isolating him or keeping him under house arrest. House arrest is never a sentence.  So the court should look into his crime and investigate more against him. And let him be brought back under house arrest with his family members and face full punishment. If not, people's faith in the legal system will be lost forever. And criminals will consider the law their friend.

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March 14, 2023, 02:32:25 PM
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I also agree with you that if SBF is given the harshest punishment then all the fraudsters in the world will burst out of it so they don't want to do anything like that. Everyone will be happy if there is such a punishment. I think everyone will be very happy if some people involved are punished. Because they  Anyone who has suffered can easily forget it.  I don't know if it will be easily forgotten.
The type or duration of punishment SFB will get might largely depend on how he corporates with the law enforcement agencies. If he fails to open up about his criminal activities and refuses to name his accomplices he might get a harsh punishment if it was discovered by law enforcement agencies. If he also reveals where he kept some of the wealth or money he stole from FTX, it might lead to a lighter punishment.

Harsh punishment tends to serve as a deterrent but it might not serve is a potent restraint because people still commit crimes even if it will lead to capital punishment. But I don't think SBF will get a very harsh punishment because he has highly-placed political connections.

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I read the biographies of the two and found that Ross Ulbricht was punished for the lesser crime according to their crimes. Sam Bankman Fried (SBF) embezzled crores of people's money and put thousands of people on the verge of suicide and went unpunished despite being punished by the judiciary. SBF has cheated people in many ways so SBF should be punished by hanging. So that he does not get the opportunity to commit any crime in the future. Initially the victims were relieved when they got the sentence but later it was revealed that the high court and high officials who are in the judiciary allowed him to remain under house arrest by taking a hefty bribe from the SBF. Due to this, the victims raised more agitations and filed cases in court. So I would like to re-check the case files of SBF and give him appropriate punishment.

Finally Ross Ulbricht should be exonerated and awarded the Nobel SurPrize and the SBF should be hanged again. Because judging according to the crime, this is the verdict for me.

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March 14, 2023, 08:35:12 PM
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Finally Ross Ulbricht should be exonerated and awarded the Nobel SurPrize and the SBF should be hanged again. Because judging according to the crime, this is the verdict for me.

I don't know for everyone but I think your decision is kinda absurd because looking at the two person involved in this act, they all actually committed fraudulent crimes because they all temper with the emotion and financial life of many individual who were involved in this. Although SBF actually found a way to influence his punishment but this doesn't still clear the fact that Ross Ulbricht is also guilty and also deserved punishment rather I think there is another lesson to be learned here which is we should all avoid fraudulent activities and no one should lure anyone into such as one person may go purnish and the other unpurnish just as the case between Ross Ulbricht and sam bankman fried(SBF).

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March 15, 2023, 04:43:43 AM
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In my opinion SBF like Ross Ulbricht should be sentenced to life in prison.

Ross Ulbricht had a company called Skill Road. He used to sell illegal drugs there. Because of this, the court sentenced him to life imprisonment.

SBF on the other hand destroys the crypto market. He has wasted billions of FTX investors. Many have committed suicide because of it. A case was filed against SBF. He was sentenced to 115 years in prison after being found guilty of fraud alone in this case. A special plea deal allows him to remain under house arrest with his family.
However, no one can yet predict what the SBF punishment will be as it is the legal system and courts determine the appropriate punishment for each crime based on the evidence and circumstances of the case.

Many people waiting about this since many are want to know if SBF will get a long sentence than Ross Ulbritch. If SBF will be the new record breaking crypto criminal who will get a long time sentence for sure this will create fear to the other who think about doing the same.

But if he get bailable sentence well this will totally mess up the justice system, but I don't believe that this will happen since the evidence is so strong and to many cases has been filed to him.
FTX was a popular exchanger of the present time.  And it has become very popular among the users within a short period of time as the users get various facilities from it.  And billions of users started investing here and everyone considered it as Binance Alternative.  But despite its popularity, it went bankrupt at the last moment and FTX users lost their huge amount of money.  And the exchange was owned by SBF so everyone considered SBF a worse criminal than Ross Ulbricht. SFB was a smart person and he managed to make his exchanger very popular in a very short time which other companies never did.  Because of which everyone considers him as a big and terrible scammer.


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Many people waiting about this since many are want to know if SBF will get a long sentence than Ross Ulbritch. If SBF will be the new record breaking crypto criminal who will get a long time sentence for sure this will create fear to the other who think about doing the same.
The crime committed by SBF should never be looked down upon by any court. Because if there are many big crimes in the world of crime, the crime of SBF is one of them. He should get SBF maximum sentence for this crime as he sees the punishment of this fraud so that others will not dare to cheat and the court should take some more steps to recover the embezzled money from him and those who deposited money in his exchange. Restitution will greatly increase people's confidence in the law.

But if he get bailable sentence well this will totally mess up the justice system, but I don't believe that this will happen since the evidence is so strong and to many cases has been filed to him.
He may never get bail from the court because of his crime.  One wish of all is that the crime proved against SBF and the punishment meted out to him after the crime is proved, should be executed quickly.
I also agree with you that if SBF is given the harshest punishment then all the fraudsters in the world will burst out of it so they don't want to do anything like that. Everyone will be happy if there is such a punishment. I think everyone will be very happy if some people involved are punished. Because they  Anyone who has suffered can easily forget it.  I don't know if it will be easily forgotten.
What SBF has led so many investors to frustration and regrets that some might never forget for the rest of their lives. Imagine that SBF can manipulated  his way into the crypto market with shaddy politicians in order to scam a large number of people in disguise of an exchange. This is the biggest scam so far,that I have heard of and therefore he shouldn't go unpunished, justice must be done. If not he might go back again and use another name to start up another scam project, maybe still an exchange or something. If he is sent to jail,the he will learn in the hard way,just the way he scammed people of their hard earned funds.
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Many people waiting about this since many are want to know if SBF will get a long sentence than Ross Ulbritch. If SBF will be the new record breaking crypto criminal who will get a long time sentence for sure this will create fear to the other who think about doing the same.
The crime committed by SBF should never be looked down upon by any court. Because if there are many big crimes in the world of crime, the crime of SBF is one of them. He should get SBF maximum sentence for this crime as he sees the punishment of this fraud so that others will not dare to cheat and the court should take some more steps to recover the embezzled money from him and those who deposited money in his exchange. Restitution will greatly increase people's confidence in the law.

But if he get bailable sentence well this will totally mess up the justice system, but I don't believe that this will happen since the evidence is so strong and to many cases has been filed to him.
He may never get bail from the court because of his crime.  One wish of all is that the crime proved against SBF and the punishment meted out to him after the crime is proved, should be executed quickly.
I also agree with you that if SBF is given the harshest punishment then all the fraudsters in the world will burst out of it so they don't want to do anything like that. Everyone will be happy if there is such a punishment. I think everyone will be very happy if some people involved are punished. Because they  Anyone who has suffered can easily forget it.  I don't know if it will be easily forgotten.
Imagine that SBF can manipulated  his way into the crypto market with shaddy politicians in order to scam a large number of people in disguise of an exchange. This is the biggest scam so far,that I have heard of and therefore he shouldn't go unpunished, justice must be done. If not he might go back again and use another name to start up another scam project, maybe still an exchange or something. If he is sent to jail,the he will learn in the hard way,just the way he scammed people of their hard earned funds.

Many influencers help him to reach far and penetrate to those more influential people. This is alerting because people nowadays are not afraid to do big crimes even if their identity is been exposed around the world and its really good for the government to take action so that victims can get a justice for what they experience bad on their supposed to be good investment on trading's which they expect to run good by using FTX exchange.


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What SBF has led so many investors to frustration and regrets that some might never forget for the rest of their lives. Imagine that SBF can manipulated  his way into the crypto market with shaddy politicians in order to scam a large number of people in disguise of an exchange. This is the biggest scam so far,that I have heard of and therefore he shouldn't go unpunished, justice must be done. If not he might go back again and use another name to start up another scam project, maybe still an exchange or something. If he is sent to jail,the he will learn in the hard way,just the way he scammed people of their hard earned funds.

If the judges consider the pains he has caused so many people and their families, he would get a very harsh sentence. If the crypto world measures the bad reputation he attracted to the industry, it will be worth so much. He is fortunate that he is an American, China and other authoritarian nation would have handed him at least a life jail sentence.

Many influencers help him to reach far and penetrate to those more influential people. This is alerting because people nowadays are not afraid to do big crimes even if their identity is been exposed around the world and its really good for the government to take action so that victims can get a justice for what they experience bad on their supposed to be good investment on trading's which they expect to run good by using FTX exchange.


Only a few people care about a good name. Money and fame rule our world now. People know that they can always bribe their way out of any problem so they commit crimes at will. With the money, they can hire the best lawyers, influence judges, and lobby politicians. SBF has the money (people's money) and it gave him access to powerful people. His donations and support to political parties cleared the path for him to become influential. But I don't think his connections can set him free because there is much evidence of his financial recklessness. But one thing is sure, his connections will influence his punishment.

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March 18, 2023, 04:06:38 PM
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Finally Ross Ulbricht should be exonerated and awarded the Nobel SurPrize and the SBF should be hanged again. Because judging according to the crime, this is the verdict for me.

I don't know for everyone but I think your decision is kinda absurd because looking at the two person involved in this act, they all actually committed fraudulent crimes because they all temper with the emotion and financial life of many individual who were involved in this. Although SBF actually found a way to influence his punishment but this doesn't still clear the fact that Ross Ulbricht is also guilty and also deserved punishment rather I think there is another lesson to be learned here which is we should all avoid fraudulent activities and no one should lure anyone into such as one person may go purnish and the other unpurnish just as the case between Ross Ulbricht and sam bankman fried(SBF).
Of course you are right because both SBF and Ross Ulbricht are major criminals. I think it is not right to look at any of them because they are criminals. But now SBF is a big criminal but he is not facing any punishment but he is now living free from jail. But another big criminal Ross Ulbricht is still serving the punishment for his crime. Therefore the court did not decide that between the two criminals SBF was not punished for his crime. Of course I think both should be punished equally.

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March 20, 2023, 02:57:53 PM
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What SBF has led so many investors to frustration and regrets that some might never forget for the rest of their lives. Imagine that SBF can manipulated  his way into the crypto market with shaddy politicians in order to scam a large number of people in disguise of an exchange. This is the biggest scam so far,that I have heard of and therefore he shouldn't go unpunished, justice must be done. If not he might go back again and use another name to start up another scam project, maybe still an exchange or something. If he is sent to jail,the he will learn in the hard way,just the way he scammed people of their hard earned funds.
Sam Bankman said during an interview long before FTX collapsed, his best advice when buying into the krypton market was not to put in more money than you were willing to lose.

As it turned out, it was the best financial advice that ever came out of his mouth. I wonder if it was his conscience speaking? Now he's become one of the biggest frauds so far, with this case hopefully he gets a heavy sentence, much tougher than Ross Ulbricht's sentence.

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March 20, 2023, 05:14:40 PM
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What SBF has led so many investors to frustration and regrets that some might never forget for the rest of their lives. Imagine that SBF can manipulated  his way into the crypto market with shaddy politicians in order to scam a large number of people in disguise of an exchange. This is the biggest scam so far,that I have heard of and therefore he shouldn't go unpunished, justice must be done. If not he might go back again and use another name to start up another scam project, maybe still an exchange or something. If he is sent to jail,the he will learn in the hard way,just the way he scammed people of their hard earned funds.
Sam Bankman said during an interview long before FTX collapsed, his best advice when buying into the krypton market was not to put in more money than you were willing to lose.

As it turned out, it was the best financial advice that ever came out of his mouth. I wonder if it was his conscience speaking? Now he's become one of the biggest frauds so far, with this case hopefully he gets a heavy sentence, much tougher than Ross Ulbricht's sentence.

When someone comes for interview he tries to give good advice. Whether or not Bankman-Fried planned his theft at that time I cannot say but normally people who work in public functions and speak well in front of the public have different views. As we have seen in Bankman-Fried.

Users money without their permission should be a serious offense for the crime he commits, but when the money is used for a risky activity, it is considered a more serious crime. FTX chief Bankman-Fried is in danger after his blue-chip scheme to increase his wealth is revealed. Under US securities laws, it is illegal to commingle customer funds with counterparties and trade without their express consent. Ross Ulbricht and  Bankman-Fried both should be punished maximum ‍according to the law.

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FTX was a popular exchanger of the present time.  And it has become very popular among the users within a short period of time as the users get various facilities from it.  And billions of users started investing here and everyone considered it as Binance Alternative.  But despite its popularity, it went bankrupt at the last moment and FTX users lost their huge amount of money.  And the exchange was owned by SBF so everyone considered SBF a worse criminal than Ross Ulbricht. SFB was a smart person and he managed to make his exchanger very popular in a very short time which other companies never did.  Because of which everyone considers him as a big and terrible scammer.
SBF may have planned this scam in advance. So maybe he was proceeding according to plan step by step. He chose various special events to popularize his exchange which he sponsored and tried to gain loyalty of this exchange and he succeeded.

FTX was a sponsor at the ICC World Cup event and from there FTX achieved a lot of marketing success.  And bankrupted the exchange by embezzling people's money just as people had invested huge sums of money in its exchange. He did it completely according to the plan and for that he had a lot of patience and waited for a long time. He is one of the most hated people in history. He should be punished more severely. The court should execute the sentence given to him quickly to show the people that the law is above no one.

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March 22, 2023, 09:00:33 PM
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FTX was a popular exchanger of the present time.  And it has become very popular among the users within a short period of time as the users get various facilities from it.  And billions of users started investing here and everyone considered it as Binance Alternative.  But despite its popularity, it went bankrupt at the last moment and FTX users lost their huge amount of money.  And the exchange was owned by SBF so everyone considered SBF a worse criminal than Ross Ulbricht. SFB was a smart person and he managed to make his exchanger very popular in a very short time which other companies never did.  Because of which everyone considers him as a big and terrible scammer.
SBF may have planned this scam in advance. So maybe he was proceeding according to plan step by step. He chose various special events to popularize his exchange which he sponsored and tried to gain loyalty of this exchange and he succeeded.

FTX was a sponsor at the ICC World Cup event and from there FTX achieved a lot of marketing success.  And bankrupted the exchange by embezzling people's money just as people had invested huge sums of money in its exchange. He did it completely according to the plan and for that he had a lot of patience and waited for a long time. He is one of the most hated people in history. He should be punished more severely. The court should execute the sentence given to him quickly to show the people that the law is above no one.
Well I guess a master mind who is into fraud would have done same thing as marketing your product would be the first step and after a solid ground is gain, then you strike when your clients least expect. Same scenario occurred in my locality the platform was called bliss emporium, but it was a trading company, people actually invested their fund and the company trade with it gives you triple of your actual investment which at first worked for some months and people started trusting the company and they got lots of clients and investors but suddenly one day everything went downhill and closed up due to them not meeting up with the payment schedules and lots of people lost their money in the platform.

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FTX was a popular exchanger of the present time.  And it has become very popular among the users within a short period of time as the users get various facilities from it.  And billions of users started investing here and everyone considered it as Binance Alternative.  But despite its popularity, it went bankrupt at the last moment and FTX users lost their huge amount of money.  And the exchange was owned by SBF so everyone considered SBF a worse criminal than Ross Ulbricht. SFB was a smart person and he managed to make his exchanger very popular in a very short time which other companies never did.  Because of which everyone considers him as a big and terrible scammer.
SBF may have planned this scam in advance. So maybe he was proceeding according to plan step by step. He chose various special events to popularize his exchange which he sponsored and tried to gain loyalty of this exchange and he succeeded.

FTX was a sponsor at the ICC World Cup event and from there FTX achieved a lot of marketing success.  And bankrupted the exchange by embezzling people's money just as people had invested huge sums of money in its exchange. He did it completely according to the plan and for that he had a lot of patience and waited for a long time. He is one of the most hated people in history. He should be punished more severely. The court should execute the sentence given to him quickly to show the people that the law is above no one.
SBF suffered a crime but I don't think he did it intentionally.  I think he recognized it and was forced to do it.  Because no one will ever let his successful business go to waste so easily. and don't you want something like that to happen.  Did I tell the truth? However, since one of SBF's institutions has gone bankrupt and lost millions of users' funds, SBF has to be held responsible for failing to maintain it properly and therefore SBF is guilty. And SBF has to return these funds to the users or face severe penalties


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March 23, 2023, 04:50:42 PM
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The line between people ending up in prison for long time or just not is so thin in a world of scams, being open minded etc...
Curious , do you think one deserves prison more as the other, one doesn't deserve prison? Both should be there? None should?

How do you guys think about what they did and should or shouldn't they belong in prison?
Basically, both of them deserve this punishment, because many cases related to them have been proven by the parties responsible there, but for the Ross Ulbricht case I don't see justice for a life sentence (death penalty). Despite the crimes these two have committed, I respect the anonymous buying concept developed, but not the crimes they have committed.

The site is run under the pseudonym Dread Pirate Roberts, this name is taken from one of the fictional characters I have seen in various media. This case if studied further is too involved in politics and that is why politics can play a bigger role than the actual reality.

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March 24, 2023, 04:45:46 PM
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SBF clearly belongs in prison for the rest of his life. The amount of money he grifted and directed at woke causes while stifling Bitcoin’s price to pump shitcoins is absolutely shocking. It shows the wisdom of these liberal elite college grads who think they know everything. The fact the Ross, a man with actual skills who was promoting freedom is in jail, while SBF who is one of the biggest financial criminals in history sits at home eating Mom’s cooking shows just how crooked the system is and who, particularly SBF’s bought liberal politicians, are willing to sell out the people for their own financial security.

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March 24, 2023, 05:04:18 PM
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SBF clearly belongs in prison for the rest of his life. The amount of money he grifted and directed at woke causes while stifling Bitcoin’s price to pump shitcoins is absolutely shocking. It shows the wisdom of these liberal elite college grads who think they know everything. The fact the Ross, a man with actual skills who was promoting freedom is in jail, while SBF who is one of the biggest financial criminals in history sits at home eating Mom’s cooking shows just how crooked the system is and who, particularly SBF’s bought liberal politicians, are willing to sell out the people for their own financial security.

Unfortunately it's nothing new.  This is being going on for decades now, but the American people have been manipulated, propagandized, and deceived into being too complicit to even notice.

Obama, Biden, both Clintons, Pelosi, Schumer, McConnel, and Bush 43 should all be in jail.  There's nothing liberal about the Democrats I mentioned, and there's nothing conservative about these Republicans.  These are corrupt puppets of Power Money.  As George Carlton would say, when interests align there's no need for a conspiracy.

It's easy to find all the corrupt swamp-rats in Washington these days; just look to see who supports sending money and weapons to Ukraine, and who is pushing the agenda of the Climate Industrial Complex.  Throw the bums out!

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