Loan Defaulted [SiNeReiNZzz]

[Sarah Azhari]

maybe my thinking is too negative, but if you can understand it, I'm sure you can't get trapped again in the future.

Till we do not know the exact reason all of us are right and all of us have a valid point. The person who has defaulted the loan could take more than 1500$ as the person was in legendary, there was positive trust and he was engaged in a signature campaign. So, all the positive aspects were on the account of the defaulter. But if the account was hacked/bought then the scenario could be different.

I am sorry if my language seems to corner you, I was just sympathy and felt the same as you. I always seen you get scammed on lending, so this is not the 1st time, and I think the lender must change the thing for not to trust anyone here even he have many trust.

Because Trust is easy to build if active in lending if he always pays as a time at commitment,

the scammer (lender) will build the trust step by step; 1st, he lends small money like $20 often, if you already believe, then he increases the medium money to (i.e $100), then if you already believe too, he begins to scam you to increase lending like $500 or over and the lender run away. The scammer (lenders) got laughed at after getting the negative trust, but it's not over, he will repeat again from a newbie account (or maybe a hundred because merit is easy to got), and so on.

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[shasan]

I am sorry if my language seems to corner you, I was just sympathy and felt the same as you. I always seen you get scammed on lending, so this is not the 1st time, and I think the lender must change the thing for not to trust anyone here even he have many trust.

You are right and there is nothing you and I know you are trying to say on my side.

Because Trust is easy to build if active in lending if he always pays as a time at commitment,

the scammer (lender) will build the trust step by step; 1st, he lends small money like $20 often, if you already believe, then he increases the medium money to (i.e $100), then if you already believe too, he begins to scam you to increase lending like $500 or over and the lender run away. The scammer (lenders) got laughed at after getting the negative trust, but it's not over, he will repeat again from a newbie account (or maybe a hundred because merit is easy to got), and so on.

You are right that trust is easy to build but rank is not easy to build nowadays. And one more thing you have mentioned scammer (lender) will be the scammer (borrower). And the method you have mentioned about manipulating trust is right. That's why I do not give loan based on positive trust.

Why do you think so?

Because 200$ or 600$ or even 1000$ is nothing to the rank of that account, trust of that account, and more important thing that was engaged in the signature campaign from where the borrower could earn passive income.

[bullrun2024bro]

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What a shame. I supported your flag and informed the German community here, because SiNeReiNZzz was quite active on the German local board some time ago.

In any case, the German DT-users involved are now aware of the situation and can remove him from their trust list. And there may even be the possibility that someone had closer contact with him.

Maybe he can be convinced to pay the outstanding amount after all. Let's see, maybe there are other German users here who know more. I will let you know if someone replies anything substantial in the German thread.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Is he still with us or passed away. Sorry, I may sound harsh but we have lost a lot of members so far.

Not at all - I started a thread concerning the Grim Reality of the COVID pandemic.  If you know for certain the names of users who have died as a result of contracting Covid, then I invite you to add them to the Honour Roll.

Nice thread. No, fortunately I don't know anyone who had such death, I don't expect to know anyone too.

Because 200$ or 600$ or even 1000$ is nothing to the rank of that account, trust of that account, and more important thing that was engaged in the signature campaign from where the borrower could earn passive income.

Rank of an account always don't reflect a constant value. We have Legendary members who even struggle to join a signature campaign (not saying that it is the only scale to justify the value) but $6xx is really a less risky deal with a legendary member especially when they are in a signature campaign and fairly active on the forum. We had yogg who scammed $50k. Let's just hope that he is healthy and come back soon with some convincing story.

In any case, the German DT-users involved are now aware of the situation and can remove him from their trust list. And there may even be the possibility that someone had closer contact with him.

First find out he is alive and healthy. Hopefully you will be able to find someone who knows him in person and in touch with his family.

[Rikafip]

First find out he is alive and healthy. Hopefully you will be able to find someone who knows him in person and in touch with his family.

He was online on Telegram in the last week or so and someone said that his was active on Twitter few months ago so he is probably alive and well but for whatever reason decided to go awol.

[ScamViruS]

I don't know what happened to him, a legendary rank account of good reputation ran away with this small amount (not a big amount according to his rank and reputation). If he had been active in this forum and participated in a signature campaign, it would not have taken much time to pay off this loan. But he became inactive and ruined his reputation.

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[khaled0111]

BUt I tag if I do not get any response. Also, before tagging I give several warning.

This is the problem. Imo, if a borrower doesn't repay a loan on the due date, he must be tagged the very next day. This is what you should do if you want to alert other lender and save them from being scammed by that person.
You need to realize that if you are going to wait few days/weeks till he responds (which isn't going to happen) then he will use that grace periode to scam other lenders.

[seek3r]

I don't know what happened to him, a legendary rank account of good reputation ran away with this small amount (not a big amount according to his rank and reputation). If he had been active in this forum and participated in a signature campaign, it would not have taken much time to pay off this loan. But he became inactive and ruined his reputation.

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The reason might be simple. He was a known gambler.. it looks like there is probably a time when you simply can no longer weigh what is right and wrong... and then you probably do not care about anything, the main thing you have the stake for the next round - cost what it may 
Unfortunately not an isolated case, even here in the forum... (keyword yogg)

[1miau]

I don't know what happened to him, a legendary rank account of good reputation ran away with this small amount (not a big amount according to his rank and reputation). If he had been active in this forum and participated in a signature campaign, it would not have taken much time to pay off this loan. But he became inactive and ruined his reputation.

I totally agree here. The amount scammed by SiNeReiNZzz is crazy low and he would receive this amount via his signature campaign in just a few weeks to pay the loan off.
But instead, he decided to scam shasan and ruin his own account.
There's still a little possibility that he'll come back once he realizes how stupid his move was but as said, it's very unlikely. 

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Done, too. 
I'm hoping as well that DT members will distrust him as he might also try to sell his account (which is unlikely, too, but we are better off to avoid risk here).

[shasan]

This is the problem. Imo, if a borrower doesn't repay a loan on the due date, he must be tagged the very next day. This is what you should do if you want to alert other lender and save them from being scammed by that person.
You need to realize that if you are going to wait few days/weeks till he responds (which isn't going to happen) then he will use that grace periode to scam other lenders.

It might be. But I think this should not be a big deal as there must have neutral trust in me while lending. A lender and/or trader of reversible payment should be aware of the neutral trust and risk of the transaction (loan or trade). A negative trust from me/you might not be anything but for the borrower, it can be a lot of hassle. I have a borrower who is earning from signature and repaying me for a long time though s/he wasn't able to repay me on time and also wasn't online. Also, I found a few more cases like that too who repaid loans even more than a year later than the due date.
Also, I noticed another lender also getting payment from a borrower's signature campaign as the borrower can't repay the due amount.

After all, we all are human beings!

[CoinEraser]

What a shame. I supported your flag and informed the German community here, because SiNeReiNZzz was quite active on the German local board some time ago. -snip-

Thank you for informing us. It's really sad that SiNeReiNZzz breaks his account like that. I'm assuming he'll never come back. But worse is that shasan lost his money through this scam. I really feel sorry for him. He didn't deserve that. 

[ScamViruS]

I don't know what happened to him, a legendary rank account of good reputation ran away with this small amount (not a big amount according to his rank and reputation). If he had been active in this forum and participated in a signature campaign, it would not have taken much time to pay off this loan. But he became inactive and ruined his reputation.

I totally agree here. The amount scammed by SiNeReiNZzz is crazy low and he would receive this amount via his signature campaign in just a few weeks to pay the loan off.
But instead, he decided to scam shasan and ruin his own account.
There's still a little possibility that he'll come back once he realizes how stupid his move was but as said, it's very unlikely.  

Some members found that he was active on Twitter and Telegram. That means he is active everywhere except the forum. Maybe he doesn't want to think about how stupid this decision is.
On the other hand if we think that he is in a serious problem and having trouble repaying this loan, then he could have been active and asked @shasan for some more time to repay the loan, instead of being inactive like this.

@shasan sorry for your loss, don't know if you will get this money back or not.

[khaled0111]

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I totally understand. It's normal that under some circumstances a borrower can find himself unable to repay a loan on the due date but the least he has to do is to contact the lender and explain his situation and ask for an extension. But if he suddenly goes dark, although being active on other platforms, then I don't know how you can explain/accept it! Sorry, but in this case a red tag is totally justified.

[1miau]

I totally agree here. The amount scammed by SiNeReiNZzz is crazy low and he would receive this amount via his signature campaign in just a few weeks to pay the loan off.
But instead, he decided to scam shasan and ruin his own account.
There's still a little possibility that he'll come back once he realizes how stupid his move was but as said, it's very unlikely.  

Some members found that he was active on Twitter and Telegram. That means he is active everywhere except the forum.

In our local board, reports came up that SiNeReiNZzz had been active on Stake (a Casino site) last year as well and talked to at least one member.

Maybe he doesn't want to think about how stupid this decision is.

He should, for sure. He could have saved himself from so much trouble. 0.01 BTC is barely nothing to ruin his account.
4 weeks of signature campaigns would have re-paid that amount for sure.

On the other hand if we think that he is in a serious problem and having trouble repaying this loan, then he could have been active and asked @shasan for some more time to repay the loan, instead of being inactive like this.

Exactly! And shasan would have waited for sure... shasan has been very generous already as his payback date was postponed multiple times...
It's really hard to understand why SiNeReiNZzz made that stupid decision...

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Dirty guy sinereinzzz just was in stake chat and I confronted him about his loan.

And as a result I was muted by the mod, what a joke.

His text translates to:

"lol, and you know about the circumstances? I don't owe anything. And there is no reason to explain this here"



After that I got muted by the ridiculous German wannebe mod.
Some guys asked him about it and wanted to know more but since I can't reply and he said it's a lie that's all I could find out.

Wrote Shasan on TG so maybe he can join the chat but he was offline.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Some guys asked him about it and wanted to know more but since I can't reply and he said it's a lie that's all I could find out.

I wonder why don't he say the same here LOL

Stake have their own forum. If you can create a topic about it may be you will be able to get your ban removed from the chat. It's such a shame that members deny a wrongdoing they did.

[Agbe]

That is very bad of him. He has damaged his hustle in the forum by spoiling his legendary account and end it in this way. This is bad news from him. When he has known that he could not pay the funds at once then he would have discussed with you Shasan to repay it with installmental, that is paying it with bits and if it is weekly or monthly would have been better. What SiNeReiNZzz is very bad. From the action he took by refusing to respond to your chat your PM's shows that he is a pure scammer which nobody should have dealing with him. That is a very bad character he has displayed here. For the Legendary account sake he wouldn't do it.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

That is very bad of him. He has damaged his hustle in the forum by spoiling his legendary account and end it in this way. This is bad news from him. When he has known that he could not pay the funds at once then he would have discussed with you Shasan to repay it with installmental, that is paying it with bits and if it is weekly or monthly would have been better. What SiNeReiNZzz is very bad. From the action he took by refusing to respond to your chat your PM's shows that he is a pure scammer which nobody should have dealing with him. That is a very bad character he has displayed here. For the Legendary account sake he wouldn't do it.

Yes, stupid to waste such an account. He could have made much more $ with signature campaigns over time.

I guess he still has another account here an is reading because he just mentioned my name in stake chat for whatever reason and without talking to anybody.

[John Abraham]

After that I got muted by the ridiculous German wannebe mod.
Some guys asked him about it and wanted to know more but since I can't reply and he said it was a lie that's all I could find out.

Wrote Shasan on TG so maybe he can join the chat but he was offline.

I am sorry to hear that you were muted. The moderator could have listened to you. But, every casino platform chat has rules and maybe this matter is irrelevant there. The moderator could delete the message and ask you not to post something like that. But, I don't see it as an offense that may lead you to get banned from chat.

The shitty thing was his answer. He said he doesn't owe anything. WTF? So, why doesn't he write that here in the forum? Maybe he doesn't care about the forum account anymore since its reputation is already ruined. I guess the same as you. Maybe he has multiple accounts.

If the stake Moderator banned you just for the reason you explained, they will ban Sashan as well if he asks that guy about the loan. This does not happen within their platform. Moreover, they often say that if you get scammed by someone, the platform cannot do anything. So, deal with the people you trust and at your own risk.

[shasan]

Update 1:
Yesterday I received a message from the telegram account of SiNeReiNZzz by his brother and came to know that there is something wrong with him which I do not want to disclose here he might be able to disclose within a short time it might be within few weeks/months.

Update 2:
I was informed that the brother of SiNeReiNZzz will send 0.005 bitcoin and the rest will be done later. I have already received that. I wanted to post yesterday but I wanted to see first whether that is true or not. But hopefully, think SiNeReiNZzz or his brother will repay the rest and will post an update on the forum.

Request from me:
I want to request the community not to discuss this anymore for now until we receive any confirmation from SiNeReiNZzz or his brother about the absence and details of the payment/repayment schedule.

Dirty guy sinereinzzz just was in stake chat and I confronted him about his loan.

And as a result, I was muted by the mod, what a joke.

I have not discussed it but I think that is not him but it is his brother and don't know the reason for refusing. Have you been unmuted if not then please create a post on the stakes thread from where I think we may get a good result. Also there is a little chance the account is not operating by the same person of the forum.

I wonder why don't he say the same here LOL

As the person who logged into the account stake did not log into the forum.

He has damaged his hustle in the forum by spoiling his legendary account and end it in this way. This is bad news from him. When he has known that he could not pay the funds at once then he would have discussed with you Shasan to repay it with installmental, that is paying it with bits and if it is weekly or monthly would have been better. What SiNeReiNZzz is very bad. From the action he took by refusing to respond to your chat your PM's shows that he is a pure scammer which nobody should have dealing with him.

Everything might be changed if the account holder came here and post an update.

I guess he still has another account here an is reading because he just mentioned my name in stake chat for whatever reason and without talking to anybody.

He might have many more accounts or not but based on the conversation it is not possible for him to log into the account and view our posts.

I am sorry to hear that you were muted. The moderator could have listened to you. But, every casino platform chat has rules and maybe this matter is irrelevant there. The moderator could delete the message and ask you not to post something like that. But, I don't see it as an offense that may lead you to get banned from chat.

You are right but I don't think it is a valid reason for the mute. But it is okay if the muted happened by bot. But if by a moderator then it is not good.