New bitcointalk rank? 🔥

[selezneve]

Why not hold an official vote on this issue in order to understand and evaluate the demand of the forum members?

Because that can be abused by votes from new accounts from spammers.

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[LoyceV]

How many of the members have 2000+ merits in the forum?

150

[Rikafip]

The merit sources don't share the merits amongst themselves in your above senario.  The less merits to share around, the harder it is to obtain those merits should equate to higher quality posts to obtain the fewer merits on offer.
Less merits = better, quality posts.

So you want people to grind for every single merit? Even in current situation where there's abundance of merit, forum numbers have been dwindling down for years so I don't think that it's in the forum's best interest to make it even harder to rank up. After all, isn't the main goal of the merit system to make it harder for shitposters to rank up, and not make it a heavy grind for an average member? (imho it shouldn't be)

[LoyceV]

After all, isn't the main goal of the merit system to make it harder for shitposters to rank up, and not make it a heavy grind for an average member? (imho it shouldn't be)

That's how I view the Merit system too. As long as someone isn't a shitposter, Merit shouldn't hold them back.

[_BlackStar]

I don't know how many users are still consistently active and posting in 10 straight years until now. I guess they deserve special title rather than new rank just because some users manage to get 2000 or 20000 merit. It takes lot of dedication to stay active on this forum for 10 years non-stop, and I think they deserve it. Such loyalty should earn proper reward instead of considering the amount of merit earned for new rank, but this is just my assumption.

Even if some people can make requests about new ranks because the number of merit earned has already reached 2K or 15K, then I hope that their activity points as high dedication on the forum should also be considered. It's something like Loyalty & Engagement - but I haven't thought of any names to call it yet.

[arhipova]

I don't know how many users are still consistently active and posting in 10 straight years until now. I guess they deserve special title rather than new rank just because some users manage to get 2000 or 20000 merit. It takes lot of dedication to stay active on this forum for 10 years non-stop, and I think they deserve it. Such loyalty should earn proper reward instead of considering the amount of merit earned for new rank, but this is just my assumption.

There need not be reward in terms of rank for everything. Those who are active here for 10 years had already got rewarded in terms of skills, investment and returns. They also gained lot of information and updates related to crypto from this forum in these 10 years which is more rewarding than some rank.

Another issue with such a reward is that suppose you give that rank for activity of 10 years to someone. Now he becomes inactive and the rank or badge is taken away from him. So , now his 10 year dedication has no value ?

I like the current ranking system as it is. There are no changes required as of now. With the current system, forum is able to maintain decent activity and growth. So why experiment with a structure that is already working good for the forum ?

[uchegod-21]

Mr. A can be in Legendary rank with Mr. B. But Mr. Having upto 5,000 merits while Mr. B has 1023 merits will likely show that Mr A contributes meaningfully than Mr. B. If this continue to work, what then is the need of adding another rank?

With this logic, there might be no need for any ranks at all. A user with 500 merits is assumed to contribute better than one with 10 (not always),

Not always. I believe the logic is reasonable to this context because the only major contributor to rank up is merit. The activity is constant. If we both remain active in the forum for 14days we get same number of activities but we cannot same amount of merits.
So after legendary rank where activities and merits no longer contribute to rank up as there is no rank up, the value of merits is expressively seen and felt as the higher number of merits apart from merit airdropped is seen as the better contributor.

[mindrust]

I remember that day, when the merits become a thing in the forum. Since I was a Legendary user at that point I get instant 1000 merits, and when I realize other users have to get those 1000 merits to become a legendary user I really feel bad for them.

It has been a long time, this week was the 5th birthday of the merits system as we can see in this thread ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0 ). And a lot of people have worked hard to become legendary user in the forum. So, I was thinking...

Let's rest 1000 merits to all the legendary users from those who get 1000 merits and make a new raking for those who haven't hit the 1000 merits. For example, if you have 1990 merits, then you will be 10 merits away from legendary, but you will have the new rank until then.

What would be a good name for this new rank?

That's called power creeping.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Power%20Creep

A certain flaw in game balance design, where content released later tends to get more powerful as time goes. This can be seen in multiplayer games that have regular expansions or balance patches.

The merit system was created because people were creating account farms and it was too easy to do it. Merits didn't stop the farmers but slowed them down. Maybe the old farmers got away with it because they already had an army but it did stop the newbies from creating new farms.

I don't think we need more of this thing. Getting to legendary is already hard enough. No need to turn this forum into an RPG where you upgrade items and ranks.

[Woodie]

Since the current ranking system requires a quasi-similar amount of Merits and Activity for the mid-to-high Ranks, I’m assuming that this pattern would roughly follow (not exactly), and therefore the most logical potential candidate requirements would be:

2k Merits & 2k Activity (greater or equal on both accounts): 95 Accounts
3k Merits & 3k Activity (greater or equal on both accounts): 22 Accounts
4k Merits & 4k Activity (greater or equal on both accounts): 1 Account

Elite rank sounds interesting, Btw Legendary members have for long been left out with nothing to look forward to, but this challenge of a new rank is a welcome development as this will give them a reason to hang out more often on the forum & share with us their knowledge. And just to make this not out of reach for many, I suppose the 3k Merits & 3k Activity should be a good reach

[Daltonik]

I remember that day, when the merits become a thing in the forum. Since I was a Legendary user at that point I get instant 1000 merits, and when I realize other users have to get those 1000 merits to become a legendary user I really feel bad for them.

It has been a long time, this week was the 5th birthday of the merits system as we can see in this thread ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0 ). And a lot of people have worked hard to become legendary user in the forum. So, I was thinking...

Let's rest 1000 merits to all the legendary users from those who get 1000 merits and make a new raking for those who haven't hit the 1000 merits. For example, if you have 1990 merits, then you will be 10 merits away from legendary, but you will have the new rank until then.

What would be a good name for this new rank?

That's called power creeping.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Power%20Creep

A certain flaw in game balance design, where content released later tends to get more powerful as time goes. This can be seen in multiplayer games that have regular expansions or balance patches.

The merit system was created because people were creating account farms and it was too easy to do it. Merits didn't stop the farmers but slowed them down. Maybe the old farmers got away with it because they already had an army but it did stop the newbies from creating new farms.

I don't think we need more of this thing. Getting to legendary is already hard enough. No need to turn this forum into an RPG where you upgrade items and ranks.

Reading the topic, too, in my head all the time, I did not leave the thought of turning the ranking by the gradation of the rarity of heroes into an RPG, it remains only to add the divine rank and there will be complete completeness.

[cryptoaddictchie]

theymos has never replied on this idea and likely he did not feel comfortable to deploy it officially.

That means its impossible to have a new rank and based on the discussion here, I doubt it will ever be deploy. But it seems some of the veterans are interested to have this new rank. The idea isnt bad after all, since we have something to look forward besides being a legendary rank already.

[Adbitco]

Having a new rank implies making the system more taskable for user to get a newer rank, I believe now many people are complaining of the restrictions and limitations, so if added another rank I wonder how quickly they could get to the newest rank and imagining how tough it will be for the beginners. However, I don't see any reason to add additional rank while people are still struggling with this limitations. Instead of new rank there should be something pretty more better, maybe anyone who attains a particular merits (10k above) can get a "Title". Meaning him or she have to chose a title then send it to Theymos to be customized on their profile imo. At least this will actually make it very interesting and fun.

[Cryptomultiplier]

Well, if the consideration for new Bitcointalk rank is open to ideas, I see no reason as to why only merit score should be the only criteria required.
Those who have stayed too long on a particular rank,  have shown consistency in contributing with improved post quality and have promise to get better, should be considered for the new Bitcointalk rank too, don't you think?
 

[Sandra_hakeem]

Do you know how hard it is to make it up to through those ranks already?? Ofcourse I shouldn't find much difficulties in making illustrations over them cus you were once a newbie and you know what it took you.
No, we don't need a new rank...it's just gonna make the whole thing clumsy and senseless -- I'mma be asking myself, am I actually playing on a mortal Kombat? Cus we've even stages more than those mortals...lol ... that's shitty dude. I always keep saying that Theymos isn't gonna look through a Post like this for the second time cus he's got alot of things on his waiting list already.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[Sarah Azhari]

What would be a good name for this new rank?

Maybe don't change too much from Legendary, just add + and add more gold from 5 to 6 like the picture below.



there will be a lot of changes if implemented, Legendary rank will have 6 gold without purple in the end.

[UserU]

there will be a lot of changes if implemented, Legendary rank will have 6 gold without purple in the end.

Sounds like those Samsung/ iPhone naming convention. Plus, Pro, Max

[LoyceV]

Maybe don't change too much from Legendary, just add +

Legendary/ (pronounce: "Legendary Slash") sounds much cooler.

[bullrun2024bro]

Maybe don't change too much from Legendary, just add + and add more gold from 5 to 6 like the picture below.

Legendary/ (pronounce: "Legendary Slash") sounds much cooler.

These might "sound" cooler, but what about adding a BTC symbol instead of anything random.  

Legendary BTC or BTC Legendary

While I remain opposed to another rank, I would argue (if there really is a new rank) for a clearly visible difference from Legendary status. Like for example:

Epic
Elite
Veteran

Sounds like those Samsung/ iPhone naming convention. Plus, Pro, Max

Please no, haha. 

[elevates]

These might "sound" cooler, but what about adding a BTC symbol instead of anything random.  

Legendary BTC or BTC Legendary

While I remain opposed to another rank, I would argue (if there really is a new rank) for a clearly visible difference from Legendary status. Like for example:

Epic
Elite
Veteran

I think BTC Legendary looks more unique and defines what you are called a Legendary in this forum. Whether or not any changes happen with the Rank system but if it happens and there is voting I would support it. Epic, Elite, and Veteran are some titles that have been used or are being used in other forums. Creating something unique like this one gives a unique identity to those who have achieved it.

[Asiska02]

I remember that day, when the merits become a thing in the forum. Since I was a Legendary user at that point I get instant 1000 merits, and when I realize other users have to get those 1000 merits to become a legendary user I really feel bad for them.

It’s okay to feel bad for the new users that later joined the forum after the airdropped merits, it isn’t kinda easy keeping up and contributing worthwhile informations to the forum.. I would say the airdropped merits it’s your reward for joining early and believing in bitcoin at that moment when the whole world was against it.

It has been a long time, this week was the 5th birthday of the merits system as we can see in this thread ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0 ). And a lot of people have worked hard to become legendary user in the forum.

It isn’t easy moving from newbie to legendary but every move is always an optimistic step towards achieving the main aim. Working hard to rank up is for the new users now, the early birds have already benefited from this through the airdropped merit.

What would be a good name for this new rank?

Master or veteran will do..