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January 31, 2023, 12:13:59 PM
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I don't think you should ask for reviews or feedback on the experiences of your trading transactions with forum members.
I definitely don't think someone ought to ask for feedback after doing a trade, even if they left one for you first.  That's happened to me before, and at the very least it's annoying and at worst it raises red flags (as it should if you're on DT). 

If someone asks for positive feedback after doing a very small trade or if they had nothing at risk, you probably should be suspicious that they're trying to farm trust.  It's happened many times over the years, and I'm sure people are still trying to do it.

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January 31, 2023, 12:50:40 PM
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Suppose if I buy something from a user in this forum ? And after the transaction and trading  am I supposed to ask him to give me a feedback in my profile ? And doing it, how do you see this ?
You've thought of something very far away. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but it's better if you think about how to play a role in the forum to improve yourself and play a role that can benefit others. When I say self-improvement, am I good at it, my answer is not. And when I say about playing a role that benefits others, have I done that, the answer is that I'm still trying so that others can benefit.

Not one eye, but hundreds or even thousands of eyes see us here. So regarding trust, we don't need to ask for it because the judgement regarding trust or feedback depends on other people who have the right to give it. Try not to take offence my friend.

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January 31, 2023, 01:17:40 PM
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Suppose if I buy something from a user in this forum ? And after the transaction and trading  am I supposed to ask him to give me a feedback in my profile ? And doing it, how do you see this ?

OP, what are you showing even like begging. let that trust come to you by itself. through what you do for the forum.
but seeing you've been banned in the past. and you try again and finally you get banned again.
I suggest leaving the forum quietly. focus on your real-world activities. make money for your life and maybe your family.


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January 31, 2023, 02:43:02 PM
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Suppose if I buy something from a user in this forum ? And after the transaction and trading  am I supposed to ask him to give me a feedback in my profile ? And doing it, how do you see this ?
There is no need to ask for anything after making transactions with other users on the forum. I think you should read more about the trust system that has been running on the forums. Please go to Guide by LoyceV which discusses how to use the Trust System properly.
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January 31, 2023, 02:43:07 PM
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Suppose if I buy something from a user in this forum ? And after the transaction and trading  am I supposed to ask him to give me a feedback in my profile ? And doing it, how do you see this ?

You don't have to ask for someone yo trust you on this forum here, you earn it by what you do, if you demand someone for it then that means there's a secret agenda you have that may not portray receiving one but you choose to maneuver your way through and present it to the person involved, it does not end by trusting someone alone, you need to provide a tangible reason for doing that with a reference that point to it, being a newbie you don't have to be after that because if may lead you to getting distracted, work on yourself and build a good reputation here, have a good relationship with members and contribute well, it may come and it may not, but know that trust is not all that defines your uniqueness on this forum, but what you do consistently that makes others benefits from you.

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January 31, 2023, 03:34:03 PM
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Do people even perform trades again in order to have positive trust? That was when the forum was created newly and possibility there were little/no exchanges, so members of this forum were trading between themselves.

If you want to be in DT, just start accusing people of alt accounts, start connecting people's addresses, start bursting cheating bounty hunters and you would be surprised how fast you will be on DT.
That's too much work, just buy a Collectible and use (pay!) escrow, then leave both of them positive feedback. Changes are you'll get 2 positive feedbacks in return, and you'll reach DT2.

Note: I don't consider this correct use of the Trust system, but this has happened many times.

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January 31, 2023, 05:04:18 PM
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Suppose if I buy something from a user in this forum ? And after the transaction and trading  am I supposed to ask him to give me a feedback in my profile ? And doing it, how do you see this ?

If you trade with someone and the person who traded with you thinks you deserve feedback, then he will give you feedback. You don't have to ask for it. If you do good work and present yourself as competent, others will judge whether you deserve feedback or not. Asking for and giving feedback on small trades like this is often seen as questionable. Because your account is visible to thousands of users, anything suspicious here will be easily exposed. Only feedback given by DT member will show on your profile, other feedback will not show on your profile. And when DT members give you any feedback they will give it with proper reason.

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January 31, 2023, 06:11:24 PM
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If someone asks for positive feedback after doing a very small trade or if they had nothing at risk, you probably should be suspicious that they're trying to farm trust.  It's happened many times over the years, and I'm sure people are still trying to do it.
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with building trust among the user in this forum as long as we don't beg, feedback is only as proof that there is a smooth transaction. But of course it's true, for things that aren't high risk then I can also say it's a cheap endeavour.

After all successful trading is not only done with DT members, and this feedback shouldn't only come from them either. Any user can give his feedback on successful trades or whatever, as long as it's relevant then it's fine I guess. What's unfortunate is the abuse, so many forum members are against it.

Trust system should work as it should, even I have successfully paid off $500 loan to DarkStar_ never asked him to send me positive feedback. That is up to him, and I have also never asked anyone to include me in their trust list even if I have contributions to the local board. I know that's not how it works, so there's no need to ask for things that aren't high-risk.

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Suppose if I buy something from a user in this forum ? And after the transaction and trading  am I supposed to ask him to give me a feedback in my profile ? And doing it, how do you see this ?
If you're trying to do such thing then its called trust farming and that is not how the trust system is supposed to work, if the other party feel that you are trusted for future tradea then they will do it on their own.

Many people got such kind of trust ratings in the past now DT members are aware they should not do it until you have clean sheet of trading history with no issues for a while.

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Suppose if I buy something from a user in this forum ? And after the transaction and trading  am I supposed to ask him to give me a feedback in my profile ? And doing it, how do you see this ?
I'm not sure I can give a recommendation on how to earn trust in the forum. This is a very lengthy and difficult process that can take many years. In contrast, this trust is quickly lost. Even well-known and honored users of the forum can instantly lose confidence and even past merits will not be able to influence in any way.

The profile's feedback you're talking about doesn't really mean much. An unknown user left a review for another unknown user. What kind of trust are we talking about here? If an honored member of the forum leaves a feedback for you, then the situation will look different. But even in this case, there will be no guarantees that you have earned trust. Trust in a forum is something abstract that can't be felt or measured without talking about a feedback in a profile. It exists and is expressed in relation to you by many people.

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Suppose if I buy something from a user in this forum ? And after the transaction and trading  am I supposed to ask him to give me a feedback in my profile ? And doing it, how do you see this ?

If the amount involved is significant, leaving a positive feedback to the counter party is the best thing to do. It’s not wrong to ask him to leave you a positive feedback for a successful trade but you should not insist it as if it’s a must because trust feedbackis gain through common trust.

Doing a consecutive successful feedback from a legit trade will increase your reputation especially if the amount involved is huge. But you should not trade for the trust score because you will surely failed to build your reputation. If you are planning to established here then you should invest time and effort to fulfill many transactions successfully.

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Everything is based on first impressions. If a user trusts you, it will be because of the first impression he or she has of you after both of you have done some kind of business or helped out in some way. To some extent, asking for trust feedback in a forum makes no sense; let the person decide if they want to or not.

A trust feedback is a very important feature in the forum that, if not used properly, can jeopardize many things in the forum, particularly trusting someone you want to transact with on the forum. We live in a technological age, and most forum users are anonymous to one another. If not for this case, anyone can request a feedback review after a successful trade, and anyone can provide it regardless of whether or not you are a DT member.

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Guys, OP Was banned on 31st January. I am Not sure why. But, My Extention shows the user was banned, and as I can see, No posts were deleted by Moderators. At least BPIP didn't detect any deleted posts from this user. https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3492871 The status of this profile is archived, and it's the auto-ban user. I don't know what auto ban means. Why would someone get banned if no one reported any posts and no posts were deleted? It's a mystery to me.

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Guys, OP Was banned on 31st January. I am Not sure why. But, My Extention shows the user was banned, and as I can see, No posts were deleted by Moderators. At least BPIP didn't detect any deleted posts from this user. https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3492871 The status of this profile is archived, and it's the auto-ban user. I don't know what auto ban means. Why would someone get banned if no one reported any posts and no posts were deleted? It's a mystery to me.

I think you have read @lovesmayfamilis post on the previous page.

try reading again for some forum rules, maybe you missed some.

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Suppose if I buy something from a user in this forum ? And after the transaction and trading  am I supposed to ask him to give me a feedback in my profile ? And doing it, how do you see this ?
Trust is trust You can never ask someone to trust you and a person will never trust you by asking. And it's not that once you exchange something with someone, they'll start trusting you and leave a positive feedback on your account. When a DT member gives a positive feedback on your account many will start trusting you based on that feedback and many will go for exchange or selling something  with you without a second thought. So no one will ever give you a positive feedback very easily until you become a real loyal guy to him.  And watch your actions until you can be considered a trusted person by that person



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February 02, 2023, 04:32:53 PM
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This reminds me of those service providers which always asks you to leave them a feedback or rate the quality of their services each time you complete a deal with them.
When I see such pop-up window, I immediately close it even if their service deserves a high rating.
I find such behavior annoying, so better avoid it especially if it's your first deal with your countreparty.

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February 02, 2023, 04:48:58 PM
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I think you have read @lovesmayfamilis post on the previous page.

Sorry, I didn't notice this post. I won't write my post if I notice someone has already posted it. I used to read most of the posts before making comments. Not sure how I jumped this one and missed this post. Yeah, I know about ban evading rules. But I don't see how it works. For example, If someone finds you evading the rules, They may report and you may get banned. But, What if no one report and how do you still get banned? I am not sure if someone reported this user or not.

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February 02, 2023, 07:48:54 PM
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But, What if no one report and how do you still get banned?
They only needed to wait even if someone caught him after so many years or even when his rank had become Hero or Legendary.

I am not sure if someone reported this user or not.
Please check the status on bpip, the OP has been archived with autoban user details. Someone has reported it and the mod have been hammering it on the mark since January 31st.

Bpip status for ~|cryptogirl.bd|~: https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3492871




Maybe it's time to report this thread for locking, or maybe mod can do without report. Let's wait.

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February 03, 2023, 01:33:54 PM
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Suppose if I buy something from a user in this forum ? And after the transaction and trading  am I supposed to ask him to give me a feedback in my profile ? And doing it, how do you see this ?
what is your purpose in asking the person to provide feedback on your profile, do you plan to attract more attention? as long as you are consistent in making honest transactions with other members here then a good reputation on your profile will automatically be given, just look in the collectibles section, there are many members with green trust feedbacks on their accounts because they do honest things here.

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February 03, 2023, 02:01:47 PM
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I think you should familiarize yourself with the concept of trust and what it means to be trustworthy before you make a post like this. Making a post like this is not a good start in showing that you are a trustworthy person, as it shows that you do not fully understand the concept of trust, which in my opinion is a sign that you should not be trusted.
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